@jake Rabbi Kaplan cites that, too, among other explanations.

@IsaacMoses judaism.stackexchange.com/a/13249/170

And hi, Isaac Moses, Shmuel Brill.

@msh210 seems to me like an answer, no? The asker sought a list of cheese with a hechsher not printed and the answer gives a list of kosher cheese with the hechsher printed. Kinda like "You should really be using jQuery instead". What do you think?

Of course, the 'list' the answer gives has but one member (Miller's parmesan) and a reference to others (cream cheeses and cottage cheeses), so it's not, perhaps, a very good answer. But it does seem to be an answer.

@madeleine courtesy ping.

@msh210 My thoughts are similar. Just delete the comment (and my comment)?

@msh210 it's an answer... to the wrong question.

@IsaacMoses ping

@jake The Maskil LeDavid (on 2:13) says that we already know that the Anashim mentioned here are Datan and Aviram from the words Nitzim. Talmud Nedarim 64B tells us that any time it says nitzim or nitzavim it refers to D&A. Rather, Rashi is using this verse to teach us that the "Anashim" it says by the Manna are also Datan and Aviram, since it calls them Anashim here.

@Alex: see my answer here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2971924#2971924

@ShmuelBrill Yes, but it obviates the question. Like if someone asked "I understand it's forbidden to have a fire or electricity on in my house Shabas. Can someone recommend substantial food good for a formal lunch?" and you answer "Actually, you can leave fire or electricity on": it doesn't answer the question asked, but it obviates the question (and helps the asker). Would you say that answer should go? The present case seems similar to me.

@IsaacMoses I think so, but perhaps ShmuelBrill can convince me otherwise.

@ShmuelBrill pong

@msh210 It would be more like "How could I do that in Internet Explorer?" A: Use Chrome. But maybe I can't install Chrome.

Maybe in his remote village, they don't sell Cream Cheese with a hashgacha?

Moreover, even according to her the question would still be true with "hard cheeses or blocks".

@ShmuelBrill OK, I can see both sides.

@ShmuelBrill Why not leave a comment asking her to delete the answer herself, explaining this reasoning?

@IsaacMoses:hi

@ShmuelBrill:hi

any body is there?

@TofeeqAhmad Hello

how are you doing?

@IsaacMoses (re cheese) y'yasher kochacha

@msh210 Um, yeah. Baruch Tihyeh. The author saw this chat thread and emailed me, saying to go ahead and delete. I asked her to do such requests in public in the future.

@IsaacMoses Ah, I see. Baruch **ti**hye, too. ;-)

@msh210 I don't get the emphasis on ti.

@IsaacMoses In English, one might say "and you".

@msh210 I wonder how they do that in colloquial Israeli Hebrew. Probably something ungrammatical like "Uvaruch tihyeh gam lecha!"

Sounds like a job for

@IsaacMoses :-)

Nice that we recently got two more of these:

judaism.stackexchange.com/badges/54

@msh210 It helps to rrrrrip from the headlines. In fact, when I did so, it was partially a deliberate bid for outside attention.

@IsaacMoses Where did you post your link, if I may ask?

@msh210 FB, G+, and reddit

@IsaacMoses Ah, thanks.

Some very good questions today.

@msh210 ... from new people. I wonder if someone's sharing our stuff around.

@IsaacMoses Oh, actually I was referring specifically to the Bes El one. (Joke.)

@msh210 :)

@msh210 I posted mine to LiveJournal and G+. I was surprised by how few of that badge have been given out; I figured the InGathering contest would have caused some. (Back then I hadn't yet noticed the personalized links and the badge, so I shared the "perma" links, not the personalized ones. But I assume everyone else was more up-to-speed than I was. :-) )

I'm glad to see some new people showing up too.

@MonicaCellio I didn't know about the personalized links until recently, either.

... I knew that the FB and t buttons created personalized links, but I didn't know that the "link" link did, too.

@MonicaCellio I've seen mentions of LJ around, and know it's been around a long time, but don't really know what it is. A blog site?

... and I didn't know about the simple format of the personalized links

Hm, lmgtfy... Wikipedia says yes, it's a blog site.

@msh210 a blog/journal site, yes. I've been there for 10+ years.

Features of LJ that I consider advantages over some other blogging sites: threaded comments, tagging (G+ are you listening? :-) ), security levels (ACLs for posts, like on G+), and a decent "read the people I want to read all on one page" interface.

@MonicaCellio I guess tumblr is a take-off, then.

@msh210 I should really check out tumblr; I hear enough about it and never have.

(It's a blogging site with all but one of those features (and maybe the security levels,, too: I don't know).)

Er, .... well... it does do threaded coments, but not well.

@msh210 thanks for the info. They host the content for you, I assume?

I am surprised that threaded comments done competently have not yet become an internet standard. :-(

I know very little about the site, tbh: I have a page there, but have scarcely used it (the site). Yes, they host your data. Does LJ not?

@MonicaCellio The lords of SE are opposed to threaded comments

@MonicaCellio The Wikimedia sites also don't do threaded comments well: they use indentation (< dt>) for goodness' sake!

@msh210 Yes LJ does too. I've had some friends who've used things like TypePad (?) that hosted their own content, which I'm definitely not interested in doing.

@IsaacMoses Do you know why?

Indentation is better than nothing. :-)

@IsaacMoses @msh210, what's with all the content today about who's Jewish and who's not?

Contrast with, say, Blogspot. Ugh.

@MonicaCellio They like to downplay comments as relatively unimportant.

@jake Looks like one question led to another and then another.

@MonicaCellio What does it do?

@msh210 ah, that makes sense. Wheras a blogging site should support that kind of interaction IMO.

@IsaacMoses thanks

@msh210 LJ?

@MonicaCellio From what I've heard on the podcast, Jeff considers that kind of multi-threaded conversation on the internet to be largely a waste of time

@MonicaCellio Blogspot.

@IsaacMoses Altogether, or on a Q&A site?

@msh210 Blogspot just posts comments in order. If you want to refer to another one you have to do it in text. So I sometimes see posts with 50 comments that are really just three conversations, but good luck figuring it out.

Sorry to interrupt with randomness, but the mouse-over comment on this xkcd is hilarious.

@MonicaCellio Ah, that's the same as Youtube comments. (Which makes sense: same owner.) Terrible.

I may be having a memory failure; not sure now if that's Blogspot, Blogger, or both. It's all blocked here at work so can't check.

@msh210 My impression is altogether. He's derided the long, multi-threaded conversations on reddit.

@MonicaCellio Aren't those the same thing?

@msh210 I think Blogspot and YouTube each developed their present commenting schemes before Google bought them, FWIW.

@IsaacMoses I think one might have absorbed the other; not sure.

The hover-over threading method used in here is pretty cool

Oh, Google bought both? Yeah, that might be it.

Except when people do this.

@IsaacMoses I haven't figured out how to use it to see the whole thread. I see how to reply to a specific message, but how do I review?

@msh210 8^P

@MonicaCellio Hover over thismessage, and yours will turn grey. Then hover over yours, and what it replied to will turn grey, as will this one. Etc. (You can't (AFAIK) see the whol thread laid out in a page without other threads.)

@MonicaCellio Also, there's an arrow on the left you can click on to jump to the antecedent.

Oh, yeah, what Isaac said, too.

@IsaacMoses oh, thanks! My browser accessibility mods were masking the color-coding; I'll have to see about tweaking that. Meanwhile, now I know to turn off Stylish during parsha chats etc -- should be much easier to follow. :-)

'mods'? /me goes to look that up.

Ah, "A modification to an object, computer game, etc., typically for the purpose of individualizing and/or enhancing the performance of the object."

@msh210 sorry, modifications, as you figured out. Didn't mean to be cryptic.

@MonicaCellio Not cryptic: it's a word. Just that I was unfamiliar with it.

@jake True. So's the cartoon. I like the 2d and 4th frames in particular.

@msh210 I make a habit of visiting XKCD on new-comic days (MWF).

@msh210 The cartoon is funny but the rollover is LOL material.

@MonicaCellio Oh, I check it weekly or so. I guess that makes me only a moderate fan.

@MonicaCellio I go whenever I'm in the mood and just flip through random ones.

@msh210 Some are funny and some are clunkers, but it doesn't take long. :-)

@IsaacMoses I stand corrected, then.

Does anyone know why @avi's icon design changed all of a sudden, and why it's different in meta than on the main site?

@jake Not I.

G'day.