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Miike
Miike
6:53 AM
@deadrat Do you also look at jello and ask people why they like cow and horse hooves? Facebook is design run from coding that directly affects the Central Management System and impacts the user's performance and ability, and connectivity. So, there we have it. Code -> Design -> human interface -> human appeals to participate in a pubic conversation -> fulfilling the persuasive demeanor of user generated content spaces online.
so that the persuasive and seductive appeal both looks appealing on a screen and feels engaging, therefore fulfilling the promise of sharing info and proving that rhetorical princiiples are embedded in every layer of the social network universe. @deadrat
HTML has plenty of design <TAGS> Member?
The blockquote being a pillar of early webdesign, and all those features are rhetorical tools. Indentation, bold, even the strikeout font type guides the reader's mind, just as the blockquote cites other writers, the end user is in perpetual "agreement" with the persuasive and sexy media, which is run from code, i believe.
@deadrat slaves had sohpist defense lawyers - some are similar to public defendors, and if not, the slave would be savvy enough to speak so well as to sway the judge. Written language appeared first with the Greeks, so accounts of public trials exist, proving that if other cultures had a democratic system in the past, I wonder how they got laws memorized without the ability to make lang. into permanent archives.
Clark notes that not only are rhetorical experiences lived by the interacting audience, but they are also composed, or “carefully designed” by a persuading rhetor to produce particular actions and interactions on the part of an audience (122). As such, Clark argues, experiences can be approached by rhetoricians as objects of rhetorical analysis.
Read any recent rhetorical acadmic journal and you will find articles like this: enculturation.net/habits-of-interaction @amI @deadrat
This exhibit looks nice too: With extended use, one will see that the connections being made between art works are fluid and numerous. A visitor can follow a path from the category American Painting in the 1960’s to an image of a Baroque clock compiled under the hyperlink “Visitor Created Tour: Random Tour with Cool Stuff.” 3 However, the interface of the Wall does not afford touch-type capabilities or other ways of searching for particular themes and artworks. The database of images the Collection Wall di…
The performance that rhetoric enables is clearly dependent on code in this case study, wouldnt it?
 
 
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deadrat
deadrat
7:12 PM
@Miike You have a disconcerting and distracting habit of being wrong in matters large and small. In your first rhetorical (if you will) question, presumably jello represents a presentation; the flavor and texture of the dessert represents the rhetorical “appeal”, and the animal parts represent the underlying constituents.
But my side of the argument is that unseen and unknown components do not affect the appeal. It’s the cold, gelled texture and fruit flavor that appeal to your palate and convince you to eat jello for dessert. If you were a vegan horrified to find out about animal products in your jello, you could just switch to vegetable-based gelling agents to enjoy the dessert. So it can’t be the components of which you’re unaware that make the difference.
What’s disconcerting is that in the analogy, I wouldn’t ask the question. You would. It’s a minor but still distracting point that while animal collagen is a component of Jello, it’s not extracted from hooves.
 
deadrat
deadrat
7:28 PM
Written language did not "appear first" with the Greeks. It does not follow that because the Greeks had a written language, accounts of public trials must exist. Even if such accounts exist, that wouldn't be the basis of a proof for the following theorem of yours: If other past cultures were democratic, then @Miike wonders how laws got "memorized". This makes no sense, even if you meant memorialized.
 
deadrat
deadrat
7:42 PM
Rhetoric is about language, and you can stretch rhetoric to cover the visual arts in the fuzzy, metaphorical way of art criticism of the type you cite. As usual, the conclusions are either trivial or incomprehensible. The unseen components of an object may enable the characteristics of that object, but the components do not themselves automatically acquire those characteristics back from the constructed object. Examples abound. Counter-examples, not so much, and none you've presented.
 

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