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2:00 PM
@topskip Oh! I saw it in a question! Now I know where it came from.
 
@egreg Indeed! One of yesterday's questions!
 
@PauloCereda Just bought Tex Murphy: The Pandora Directive for my cousin who is an adventure freak. Does it count as a TeX game?
 
@percusse Close enough. :) Speaking of games: vim-adventures.com
 
@PauloCereda That's subliminal brainwashing !!
 
@percusse AWSD x HJKL
 
2:04 PM
!!/answer weather in Istanbul, Turkey
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Istanbul
temperature | 20 °C  (wind chill: 21 °C)
relative humidity | 39%  (dew point: 6 °C)
wind speed | 3 m/s
(2 hours 4 minutes ago)
between 13 °C and 17 °C
clear (all day)
between 12 °C and 15 °C
clear (all night)  |  rain (night to late night)

  |  |   |
low: 8 °C
Fri, Apr 12, 4:45am | average high:  | 15 °C
average low:  | 10 °C | high: 20 °C
Sat, Apr 13, 2:15pm, ...
 |   |

 | clear: 55.8% (2.9 days)   |  overcast: 0% (0 minutes)

 | rain: 34.5% (1.8 days)
 
:(
 
!!/answer Weather in Constantinople, Turkey.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Istanbul
temperature | 20 °C  (wind chill: 21 °C)
relative humidity | 39%  (dew point: 6 °C)
wind speed | 3 m/s
(2 hours 5 minutes ago)
between 13 °C and 17 °C
clear (all day)
between 12 °C and 15 °C
clear (all night)  |  rain (night to late night)

  |  |   |
low: 8 °C
Fri, Apr 12, 4:45am | average high:  | 15 °C
average low:  | 10 °C | high: 20 °C
Sat, Apr 13, 2:15pm, ...
 |   |

 | clear: 55.8% (2.9 days)   |  overcast: 0% (0 minutes)

 | rain: 34.5% (1.8 days)
D'oh.
 
@PauloCereda So wrong! It's at least 25° in Yeşilköy
 
@Brent.Longborough :)
!!/answer weather in Fortaleza, Brazil.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Fortaleza, Ceara, Brazil
temperature | 30 °C
conditions | partly cloudy
relative humidity | 59%  (dew point: 21 °C)
wind speed | 7.7 m/s
(1 hour 6 minutes ago)
between 26 °C and 32 °C
few clouds (early morning  |  early afternoon onward)  |  rain (early morning onward)  |  cloudy (early morning to early afternoon)
between 23 °C and 27 °C
rain (late afternoon to evening)  |  few clouds (late afternoon to evening)  |  clear (evening onward)

  |  |   |
 
2:06 PM
OK, a real challenge:
!!/answer weather in Abersychan, Wales
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Wales, United Kingdom
temperature | 10 °C  (wind chill: 6 °C)
conditions | cloudy
relative humidity | 94%  (dew point: 9 °C)
wind speed | 8.7 m/s
(2 hours 17 minutes ago)
(using weather station EGOP: 78 km SSW and 460 meters below Wales, United Kingdom)
between 4 °C and 10 °C
rain (early morning to late morning  |  early afternoon onward)  |  few clouds (early morning to late afternoon)  |  partly cloudy (late afternoon onward)
between 9 °C and 11 °C
 
@PauloCereda Oh bril! What's the weather in Ouro Preto, answers Weather in Minas Gerais
Still,. it's nicer in Istanbul than at home...
 
!!/answer Why is your output in fixed font mode so unaligned?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

output  (English word)
1 | noun | final product; the things produced
2 | noun | production of a certain amount
3 | noun | signal that comes out of an electronic system
4 | noun | the quantity of something (as a commodity) that is created (usually within a given period of time)
5 | noun | what is produced in a given time period
6 | verb | to create or manufacture a specific amount
(6 meanings)
'outp,oot  (IPA: \:02c8a\:028atp\:02cc\:028at)
out-put  (6 letters  | 2 syllables)
@Brent.Longborough :)
@Qrrbrbirlbel I'm lazy to correct it. :)
!!/eightball Am I lazy?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: too busy looking for bugs in longtable.
 
@PauloCereda So how do I remove the rocks?
 
2:12 PM
@percusse Lovely to be here. I walked alonh the beach from Yeşilyürt to Yeşilköy today, got lost in Yeşilköy, and finally found Dürümcu Baba for lunch.
 
@Brent.Longborough Arrgh, .... i'm having a stroke of jealosy right now :)
 
@percusse You'll need to delete chars. :)
 
This is Yeşilköy
 
@egreg Seems legit
 
@percusse I'm here for three weeks' hard work fixing obscure and difficult bugs, that only appear 2 or 3 times a day on a system running at 2000 messages per second.
 
2:16 PM
@Brent.Longborough Oh i don't know if it is good or bad. :) If you have time go to the islands. They are very nice this season. Not too hot but still enjoyable
Of course hiking in Büyükada to the church at the top is always nice.
 
@egreg Spot on. Off the photo to the left is the town centre, mosque, and Armenian Catholic church
@percusse Piy really, I'm too shagged by the weekend to do very much. Just walking the three miles to Yeşilköy and back almost killed me :-)
 
@Brent.Longborough You can also rent those carts with horses (don't know how they are called :P)
There were once only two cars on the whole island and they managed to have a traffic accident.
We have congradulated them as a nation
 
@topskip Can you explain a liitle bit more (okay, if possible;-)?
 
Writing a comment is like writing a text (SMS): "… caracters left"
 
@topskip Because of you I'm writing things in hummingbird notation like crazy to try it out. I didn't need the extra procrastination :D
 
2:28 PM
@Kurt about blue sky?
 
'ello, 'ello, 'ello
 
@DavidCarlisle @topskip about blue sky and textures and why they have been important? I just want to understand that ...
 
@Kurt well they were mac so I never used them myself, but they were one of the first to aim a tex system at real people (ie you didn't have have to load a large tape reel and compile it all from source...) and integrate it in to the host environment. They were the first to have scalable versions of the computer modern fonts (I think the type 1 versions of computer modern are still the BSR ones (just re-licenced) they were the first to have a linkage between the viewer and the editor...
 
@cmhughes Hi Chris! :)
 
@PauloCereda hiya Paulo! :) having a nice day?
 
2:42 PM
@cmhughes A nice day so far. :) And you?
 
@PauloCereda pretty good so far thanks :) just looked at the starlogs thing, that's brillian!
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, I see. So it is a pitty that they have gone ... Thanks for explaning that!
 
@Kurt Textures was the second implementation of TeX for the Macintosh; it used real Computer Modern fonts (the older Mac TeX didn't). It was easy to create formats, for example tailoring plain.tex to use Italian hyphenation rules (it was TeX 2.0). Shortly after they provided the Computer Modern fonts as Type1, which was a giant step for quality printing.
@Kurt It had a problem: it was commercial, so when OzTeX came out, people switched to it.
 
why does theoremref use the counter used for theorems as the name of the theorem o.O
All my theorems etc reference the same counter, "num". Using thmref then outputs num 3
 
you know finals are starting when you see two questions on the exam class in the same day
 
2:45 PM
@Kurt There was also an implementation of Metafont that packed the fonts in Macintosh format.
 
although I would like to have Lemma 1.3
 
@CBenni Without an example it's hard to tell.
 
@egreg I have only used a MacBook for two years to learn a little bit the mac operating system and this kind of computer. I tested TeX on it (with MacTeX and TeXShop) but I usually use Windows and MiKTeX. So I do not know the history of TeX on Mac. BTW: is there a historic map or a description about this?
 
@egreg: I have a possible cool stuff going on, I'll email you about it. :)
 
@Kurt hmm i searched for sbtex textures emtex (three early implementations) and the only hit on the site was this answer of mine saying they were not included in a family tree diagram, so it looks like there is scope for some better historical answers (of course @egreg is very old and remembers all this stuff first hand)
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A: TeX family tree with timeline?

David CarlisleI think you need a key, it wasn't always clear what the colours stand for, for example e-LaTeX/pdfe-LaTeX, Aleph appear to be marked as implementations like pdfTeX/Omega, but they are (more or less) just formats built over the relevant engines. Similarly I'd have expected to see context colored a...

 
2:55 PM
@Kurt 1. Mac TeX (1985), 2. Textures (1986), 3. OzTeX (1987) Dates are approximate. 1 and 2 used fonts in Mac format, 3 used PK files. Then Adobe Type Manager came out, so it became possible to use Type1 fonts more easily. Also OzTeX used them for previewing (after some time). Mac TeX died soon. The situation changed drastically with Mac OS X, when TeXShop made its entrance and we were able to use the real Web2C implementations (teTeX at first, packed by Gerben Wierda).
Then Thomas Esser stopped developing teTeX and everybody switched to MacTeX.
OzTeX didn't have a builtin editor like Textures, but there were some choices. I settled to Alpha, then Alphatk.
They could launch LaTeX and also previewing with a keystroke.
There was also CMacTeX, but it didn't really catch on; it was a Web2C implementation on the Macintosh.
 
does this one seem like a duplicate
2
Q: Enumerate with multiple numbers (comma-separated) for a single item

thelookingglassI'd like to get a list that looks like this: 1. Text addressing #1. 2,3. Text addressing #2 and #3 together. 4. Text addressing #4. The motivation is that the list items are referring to a previous list. Any idea on how to do this easily with enumerate? (Or some other way to do it that looks...

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Q: How to create enumerate environment with item number in the format (i,j)?

user31526\begin{enumerate}[(i)] \item \end{enumerate} This gives the items with roman numbering. But I want to numbering in (i,j) format, i.e. I want my items numbered like (1,2),(1,1), (5,4) etc. What to do?

 
ANyone got an idea why I can login here, but not on TeX.SE itself?
 
3:10 PM
that is weird
getting any error messages, or is it just not letting you in?
@Brent.Longborough ?
 
@cmhughes They are completely different.
@Brent.Longborough Sometimes I can log into the site, but not into the chat. Retrying some times usually works.
 
@SeanAllred The page opens saying 'log in'. I click on it, it takes me to the login page, which immediately sez 'Welcome, BL you are being redirected', which takes me back to TeX.SE main page, but there it still says 'log in
 
:| and I'm assuming you've already restarted the browser, cleared cache, etc?
@Brent.Longborough (sorry) keep forgetting
 
@SeanAllred I've tried about six times, close my browser, done the SE signout ritual, everything imaginable. Except cleared cache. I'll try that now, but in my book that's almost as bad as support telling me to reboot my system.
Back shortly...
 
@Brent.Longborough hahah yeah it's a catch-all
but a lot of the time it works
 
3:17 PM
!!/question do you know a plane skids into sea in Bali? :-)
 
@Karl'sstudents Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command question does not exist.
 
!!/answer the meaning of life
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything
42
(according to Douglas Adams' humorous science-fiction novel The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
 
@SeanAllred Bad luck, not this time
 
@egreg @DavidCarlisle Thank you both very much!
 
3:22 PM
@Brent.Longborough and I've been googling like crazy - there doesn't seem to be anyone else who has had this problem before
 
!!/answer What number comes after 5 10 20 30 36?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

{5, 10, 20, 30, 36}
5+10+20+30+36 = 101
mean | 20.2
median | 20
sample standard deviation | 13.05
5 |  | 10 |  | 20 |  | 30 |  | 36
 | 5 |  | 10 |  | 10 |  | 6 |
 |  | 5 |  | 0 |  | -4 |  |
 |  |  | -5 |  | -4 |  |  |
 |  |  |  | 1 |  |  |  |
(no form found in terms of holonomic sequences)
 
!!/answer @Brent.Longborough's issue
 
I think I may have had it before, but it was some time back. IFIRC it was a server problem
 
(worth a shot)
 
3:24 PM
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Long County, Georgia  (US county)
name | Long County
county seat | Ludowici, Georgia
Ludowici  (1703 people)
 
@PauloCereda Psmith's a bit crazy.
 
!!/answer Yeşilköy
 
@Brent.Longborough That really doesn't make a whole lot of sense though. Can you log into other sites on the SE network (not their chats)?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Ataturk/Yesilkoy International Airport
Istanbul, Turkey
official name | Ataturk/Yesilkoy International Airport
IATA code | IST
ICAO code | LTBA
elevation | 50 meters
number of runways | 3
longest runway length | 3000 meters
21 °C  (wind chill: 22 °C)  |  relative humidity: 38%  |  wind: 2 m/s  |  240° WSW   |  clear
6:24:46 pm EEST  |  Saturday, April 13, 2013
Samandira (Sarigazi) | 34 km  (kilometers) east
Sabiha Gokcen International Airport | 43 km  (kilometers) east-southeast
@egreg Oh no! :)
!!/answer Can you pass the Turing test?
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Can you pass the Turing test?
I do what I can.
(Can you?)
 
@SeanAllred Yes, I've logged into SO, ServerFault, and SuperUser. Which givesa me an idea...
 
3:26 PM
(strokes sorry excuse for a beard pensively)
 
@SeanAllred Just logged in to English witout a problem
except spelling LOL
 
XD
win
 
@SeanAllred I suspect your focus in in the wrong text box...
 
so it's just TeX - not even other *.se.com sites
 
Looks rather like it, I'll try meta
 
3:29 PM
You suspect incorrectly. My fingers gravitate towards [return]
(especially on a UK keyboard - the return key is much larger than I'm used to)
 
@SeanAllred Well, I'm also locked out of meta.tex
 
I hate setting up theorem numberings >_<
 
!!/answer What number comes after 640 231 100 91?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

{640, 231, 100, 91}
640+231+100+91 = 1062
mean | 265.5
median | 165.5
sample standard deviation | 257.7
sqrt(481242)~~693.716
(320 sqrt(2/240621), 77 sqrt(3/160414), 50 sqrt(2/240621), 91/sqrt(481242))
OEIS A027885
640, 231, 100, 91, 1003, ...
 
@PauloCereda Well done!
 
3:32 PM
I want them to be called "Theorem 1.1", "Lemma 1.2", "Definition 1.3" etc
but they just wont
or if I finally get it to work
something else completely fucks up
is there something like a comprehensive guide to numbering theorems, or is it better if I return to microsoft Word, because latex sucks?
 
@CBenni the latter obviously!
 
ok
bye
 
@CBenni are you using one of the theorem packages (amsthm theorem etc?)
 
all of them pretty much
 
@CBenni at the same time?
 
3:35 PM
!!/answer EDNY
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Friedrichshafen Airport
Friedrichshafen, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany
official name | Friedrichshafen Airport
IATA code | FDH
ICAO code | EDNY
elevation | 417 meters
number of runways | 1
longest runway length | 2356 meters
 
@DavidCarlisle I guess I have lost overview over which packages are included
It might be that they interfere with each other
 
@Brent.Longborough :|
 
@CBenni It's best not to load multiple definitions of the same thing. (for any thing but theorems in particular)
 
I'm getting tonnes of results for "can't log into chat" but nothing for the converse
 
3:37 PM
yeah, I wasnt able to include amsthm for that reason
I am using
\RequirePackage[amsmath,thmmarks]{ntheorem}
 
!!\answer LSZC
 
@Brent.Longborough following meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/160405 try a different browser maybe?
 
@PauloCereda Here are wheather informations missing :-(
 
@Kurt Oh.
!!/fortune
Oh I forgot, my browser crashed LOL.
 
@Kurt How's the simulator doing by the way?
 
3:41 PM
And LSZC (Buochs in Switzerland) is unknown?
 
@CBenni so texdoc ntheorem should be your guide looksl like you want \newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}[section] then \newtheorem{lm}[thm]{Lemma} (untested:-)
 
!!/help
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good afternoon! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!
 
@percusse :))
 
@DavidCarlisle that is pretty much how I have it atm, and it looks to be working fine
except for one thing
 
!!/answer EGTK
 
3:43 PM
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: I could not understand answer EGTK
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Kidlington Airport
Oxford, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
official name | Kidlington Airport
IATA code | OXF
ICAO code | EGTK
elevation | 82 meters
number of runways | 4
longest runway length | 1319 meters
10 °C  (wind chill: 7 °C)  |  relative humidity: 94%  |  wind: 6 m/s  |  160° SSE   |  rain, overcast
4:43:28 pm GMT/BST  |  Saturday, April 13, 2013
Brize Norton Station | 21 km  (kilometers) west-southwest
Chalgrove Airfield | 24 km  (kilometers) southeast
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel It runs. We have to do some praxis to show some nice flights to the visitors. Strating at Buochs in Switzerland a little flight in the mountains ...
 
@CBenni And which thing is that?
 
4:10 PM
@TorbjørnT. I fixed that
also, why do qed symbols only appear when they want to?
like, in 1/3 of my proofs, the square is shown
in the other 2 thirds, it isnt
 
4:50 PM
Yay! 1h30m soccer, 1 goal, 3 passes. :)
@DavidCarlisle: ^^
 
@CBenni LaTeX checks your proof and only puts the mark there if it is correct.
 
@DavidCarlisle damn that comes in handy xD
is there a package that writes proofs too?
\begin{theorem}$P=NP$\end{theorem}\prove
I win.
 
!!/answer is P equal to NP?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

P vs. NP problem (mathematical problem)
The determination of whether all NP-problems are actually P-problems.
Smale's third problem
status | open
prize offered for solution | $1 million (open curly double quote)Millennium Prize Problem(close curly double quote) of The Clay Mathematics Institute.
Millennium Prize problems  |  prize mathematics problems  |  mathematical problems  |  Smale's problems  |  unsolved mathematics problems
 
5:18 PM
There is a good movie for you all:
 
5:36 PM
Hello, I'm writing a definition and I would like to put an emphasis on a word. What is the correct typographical way in LaTeX? (I'm using amsthm package)
 
@MartyIX \emph{word}
 
Thanks!
I tried that but I wanted to be sure
 
@MartyIX That will toggle between italic/slanted and upright depending on the surrounding font.
 
yes, it does
I'm not entirely pleased with the look of my definition but I guess there are more important things to do right now :))
 
5:52 PM
@MartyIX Just thought I'd add: if you want to emphasize a word because it's a keyword or something similar, you might want to define a command, say \newcommand{\keyword}[1]{\emph{#1}}, and use that instead of directly using \emph, as described here
 
6:03 PM
@NicolaTalbot Thank you for a tip! (I hope the word tip is used in this context. More and more questions every day. ;))
 
@MartyIX Glad to be of help :-)
(Yes, it's the correct context.)
 
I have the most beautiful definition in the world right now! :-) \textsf looks really nice!
 
@MartyIX :-)
 
6:30 PM
What is the sed equivalent to capitalize the first letter of each word? Or any other Unixie way to do it. In a non-emacs editor, whose two letter name is best not mentioned in these parts :-) one can use "s/\<[a-z]/\u&/g". Realy I just want "abc-def-hij" to become "Abc Def Hij". I know how to replace the "-" but not how to uppercase just the first letter of each word.
 
:8968010
$ echo abcde | sed -e "s/\(.\)\(.*\)/[\\u\\1][\\2]/"
[A][bcde]
 
@PeterGrill I thought the sed regex had the same syntax as vi's :s command
 
@NicolaTalbot Yeah I thought so, but perhaps some escaping issue is going on
 
$ echo abc-def-hij | sed -e "s/\([a-z]\)\([a-z]*\)/[\\u\\1][\\2]/g"
[A][bc]-[D][ef]-[H][ij]
@PeterGrill ^^
 
@DavidCarlisle Looks like you'd be a natural at vi ;-)
 
6:37 PM
@DavidCarlisle Whats the square brackets in the output?
 
@NicolaTalbot I believe you have that sentence historically reversed
@PeterGrill It's called debugging:-)
$ echo abc-def-hij | sed -e "s/\([a-z]\)\([a-z]*\)/\\u\\1\\2/g"
Abc-Def-Hij
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, that just shows vi has a good foundation.
 
@DavidCarlisle What?? Why would you need to debug since there is never a bug in your code. :-)
@DavidCarlisle Why do you get different output than I do?
I get
 
@NicolaTalbot It's a vi(sual) wrapper for a real (ed)itor but real men (or women) don't need such props.
 
uabc-udef-uhij
 
6:40 PM
@PeterGrill because I did it right?
 
@NicolaTalbot I'm thinking of organising another beginners course: will you be available some time in July/August?
 
@PeterGrill You must have missed a backslash
 
@NicolaTalbot I am cutting and pasting...
 
$ sed --version
GNU sed version 4.2.1
@PeterGrill (and my command line is bash, if your command line is csh you deserve no sympathy)
 
@DavidCarlisle Hmmm. I get "illegal option -- v" I even switched from an unmentionable shell to bash fro this test.
 
6:42 PM
@PeterGrill what os?
 
mac os 10.6
 
@JosephWright I'm available from the 26th July onwards. The first week of August would probably work best for me.
 
@NicolaTalbot OK, I'll raise this with the committee and see what I can do venue-wise
 
If your sed has \u you just need to double the \\ until it works in time honoured tradition. If however your sed doesn't have \u the above algorithm doesn't terminate
 
@DavidCarlisle They just need butterflies apparently :-P
 
6:44 PM
@DavidCarlisle Oh so try adding more backslashes? Your had two and one does not work, so will try three next...
 
@JosephWright Okay, that's great.
 
@PeterGrill not three try 1 2 4 8 16 32 (give up somewhere around here)
 
:-) what quit so soon...
 
Talking of meetings: French TeX User meeting: Saturday June, 1, at Jacques-Louis Lions laboratory (Pierre et Marie Curie University)
2
Invited speaker is some guy called Wright ;-)
 
3
Q: OS X sed -E doesn't accept extended regular expressions

mediaczarI've been trying various ways to do some basic things with sed on OS X. Here are the results of some simple tests. echo "foo bar 2011-03-17 17:31:47 foo bar" | sed 's/foo/FOUND/g' returns (as expected) FOUND bar 2011-03-17 17:31:47 FOUND bar but echo "foo bar 2011-03-17 17:31:47 foo bar" |...

@PeterGrill -E perhaps:
 
6:50 PM
@DavidCarlisle -E wasn't enugh, but will look thru that question
 
@JosephWright Will you be speaking in French?
 
@NicolaTalbot Unlikely :-)
 
@JosephWright :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot I'm currently guessing I'll just turn up for my talk, and not really see most of the meeting, as my French is not up to that
 
7:08 PM
@PeterGrill VVVVV
$ emacs -nw --batch --eval "(princ(capitalize \"abc-def-hij\"))"
Abc-Def-Hij
 
Is this part of your plan to get everyone to downgrade from a two letter editor to a four letter one. :-) Will try that...
Buyt almost have this working, just don't know how to get it to read stdin:
for i in $1; do B=echo -n "${i:0:1}" | tr "[:lower:]" "[:upper:]"; echo -n "${B}${i:1} "; done
 
@JosephWright What are you talking about? (LaTeX3?)
 
@NicolaTalbot Almost certainly
 
@DavidCarlisle Hey, that works just fine. How do I get it take stdin?
 
@NicolaTalbot I'll probably look at recording it: the mic on my Mac is OK, but I'm tempted to get a better on (also for UK-TUG)
 
7:13 PM
@JosephWright That would be great.
 
@PauloCereda had some suggestions about mics
I wonder about something like store.apple.com/uk/product/TF238LL/A/…
 
7:39 PM
@JosephWright I'm back, sorry for the delay. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ah yes, I remember. About £40, so quite affordable
@PauloCereda Only problem might be stock levels
 
@JosephWright Personally, I'd go with a brand which deals with audio stuff. :)
@JosephWright I wouldn't worry, if I managed to buy one in Brazil, you surely can get one in UK. :)
 
@PauloCereda Almost certainly
@PauloCereda Bit short on cash at the moment as I'm awaiting a refund on some expenses, so will have to wait a little while
 
@JosephWright Oh. :)
I can sell mine. :)
 
8:06 PM
@JosephWright Sir Joseph Wright. :)
 
@PeterGrill stdin version which would also work for your tr loop probably vv
$ echo abc-def-ghi | emacs -nw --batch --eval "(princ(capitalize \"$(read ss; echo $ss)\"))"
Abc-Def-Ghi
 
8:34 PM
Hi all, is there any web application for GUI to learn TikZ?
oh sorry,
 
@doctorate Some drawing tools like Inkscape allow exporting content to TikZ but the code is awfully dirty and verbose.
 
@doctorate @NicolaTalbot might be able to help
 
kan
Is any one facing this problem?
I am having access to google.co.in but neither to Gmail nor to G+. It is not loading...
It is processing for ever...
 
@JosephWright @doctorate My app exports pgf rather than tikz code. There's jPicEdt. (I might actually be merging jpgfdraw with jpicedt at some point.)
 
kan
See, I logged in here using google open id, I can do google search, and I AM logged in.
but, I cannot see my mail, G+, youtube...
 
8:48 PM
@kan gmail is working okay for me.
 
kan
@NicolaTalbot I don't know! There is sth wrong here... how do I test this?
:(
Connection to Gmail is timed out.
 
@kan I don't know. I always do a trial and error approach of closing down the browser and restarting it when that kind of thing happens, or clearing the cache.
 
kan
Hah, I'll try to clear the cache.
check can I post stuff here?
Phew, I can.
 
9:35 PM
can be closed TL (OP fixed it) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/108580/…
 
kan
9:48 PM
It's mysterious!
I don't know what the hell is happening.
 
@kan perhaps this will help:
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Hey, I am on a linux box.
I think you meant, substituting virus by mystery.
"Mysterious Computer problems" vs. "Problems that people think are mysterious".
 
@kan see if only you were on windows and in the benign care of microsoft things would be so much better (so long as you install cygwin so you can use perl and bash and emacs and stuff and pretend you are on linux:-)
 
kan
I am fretting..
 
10:33 PM
@MarcoDaniel Of course it's OK. Great addition! Thanks!
 
kan
11:01 PM
Bye friends. I am very disappointed with this whole google thing. I haven't the foo to learn anything about the problem.
 
@kan still can't see your mail?
 
kan
11:33 PM
@DavidCarlisle Yes...
I wrote the computer staff here. Hopefully, they'll resolve it for me.
None of google's service is working.
translate, books, G_ and so on...
 
11:49 PM
@kan I just checked for google india outage in google and nothing recent (lots about some event in 2012)
 
Back from the mass. Hopefully the debate is still on. :)
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle I see... Thank you for checking.
Is there a terminal way of seeing the speed of the internet connection?
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks David. That works great.
 
@kan rm -rf /
Hope you know what you are doing. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda I know that does not work.
 
11:58 PM
You can only see your the speed of your connection if you are transferring something. Try wget'ing something.
 
kan
@PauloCereda Perhaps the first thing a unix newbie learns.
 
@PauloCereda now what??
$ wget'ing something
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@DavidCarlisle Close the single quote. :)
 
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