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12:10 AM
@AlanMunn ah ok i see it's pist in english. In german we actually use the french "planche". till the morrow

12:31 AM
@DavidCarlisle It's LPPL, so you can fork it for the new version of longtable. ;-)

@egreg so who's going to get the spaces in filenames tick?

@DavidCarlisle Of course my solution is more general. :P

@egreg I suppose I could edit mine not to require " but I thought it would interfere with the elegant simplicity of the code:-)

@DavidCarlisle That guy wants to process file names with complete UTF-8 support and spaces in them. :(

@egreg we should force him to use msdos 8+3 ascii names

12:36 AM
@DavidCarlisle Next will be file names in Chinese.
Good night all!

@egreg night (I updated the files with spaces to cope with filenames without spaces:-)

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2:14 AM
@HarishKumar Hi
@HarishKumar Sorry was out for a while

3:07 AM
@texenthusiast Hi. Sorry for deleting that message. It was in a hurry. My son woke up. It was early morning for us. :-)
It happens. We will be on and off. But still we will be there on this site :-)

@HarishKumar Same here, I was busy with house helping

@texenthusiast :-) Are you a student? I couldn't read your last message. Which subject?

@HarishKumar yes i am , do dr in mech,

@texenthusiast Which university?

@HarishKumar na

3:16 AM
@texenthusiast Sorry I couldn't follow North arizona?

@HarishKumar near

@texenthusiast How is it going? I see that you admire tex/latex very much :-)

@HarishKumar I really love it, past 1 yr was a honey moon

@texenthusiast Hehe. Soon you will come out of it (every one's experience)

@HarishKumar thesis in latex

3:19 AM
@texenthusiast Every thing in Latex (My motto)

@HarishKumar really a fan of yours and style (red Border) answers
@HarishKumar your certificate was my first love

@texenthusiast Thank you. That certificate has seen many evolutions now. What is there on this site is obsolete!
I changed the color of border recently :-)

@HarishKumar git it up
@HarishKumar meet cvr any tim

@texenthusiast The code is a mess at present. I will clean it up and upload very soon. When I do I will ping you :-)

@HarishKumar have rss no prob

3:26 AM
@texenthusiast CVR is a trivandrum and me in Pondicherry. I invited him for a workshop. But he is not in a position to travel due to health reasons :-(

@HarishKumar very inspr ,live life that way to give life to others

@texenthusiast True. When we feel desperate in life we should look at such people and get courage.
@texenthusiast I think I have to leave for some time. Nice chatting with you. Be back in a while Bye

@HarishKumar talk later may be , gotta go
@HarishKumar nice chat

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user19161
8:24 AM
@HarishKumar But ultimately we have to look into ourselves to get courage...

9:13 AM
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What is the correct way to check for if one is running in pdflatex vs latex vs. an html processor such as tex4ht? Suppose I have some latex code that I only want to show up in html, and not show up in pdf and not show up in .ps. Since tex4ht works in latex mode, then if I try this: \ifpdf % ...

The OP seems to think he has to load tex4tht to use \@ifpackageloaded{tex4ht}, or do I miss something?

9:41 AM
how do i shorten links in comments? with <a href=...> </a> ?

@Timebandit put the link text in [ ] followed by the URL in ( ) ^^^

@DavidCarlisle Yes, like this! Nice! Thank you =) looks much better =)

or any other IDE ;)

@Timebandit There is no other

for mac or in general?

@Timebandit no, at all, according to @David

@tohecz :D explains a lot ;)

10:34 AM
@Timebandit if you asked me, I prefer vim, but I'm not that kind of person to say one or the other is better.

@tohecz vim is quite nice but i only use it for javascript or node.js, at the moment i prefer the texmaker

@tohecz My main problem with vim is that the only vi command I know is :wq and I've used emacs virtually every day since 1987 so most things seem rather more natural in emacs.

@Timebandit I use vim for c++, for LaTeX be it TeXworks

11:24 AM
@DavidCarlisle Same here ^^ vim is very complicated to learn for new users
@tohecz TeXworks is fine to, not sure why but i prefer IDE's like TeXmaker or Eclipse

12:00 PM
@DavidCarlisle See? The OP preferred the more elaborate code and not the vastly more elegant code of yours. :)

12:21 PM
@egreg David will avenge the points he lost by writing more TikZ answers. :)

This is also called "shooting one's own foot":
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I have found that when saving and later using boxes the box with index 10 behaves differently to all other. Here is simple demo that shows different behaviour. In preamble I define this commands: \usepackage{forloop} \newcounter{BoxCount} \newcommand{\numberedBox}[1]{% \stepcounter{BoxCount}...

@egreg We need a tag. :)

12:41 PM
@egreg What do you expect from people using filenames with spaces.
@PauloCereda I hope you were impressed by my tikz use here tex.stackexchange.com/questions/93869/…

@DavidCarlisle Yes! :) I upvoted it in the morning. :)

@PauloCereda thanks:-)

@egreg Will you add a demo using \newsavebox, etc. on the box question or should I?

@JosephWright Just let me have lunch

@egreg OK: same here!

1:00 PM
@egreg oh good time to nip in with a more complete answer... (or should I have lunch as well)

@DavidCarlisle Done. :)

@egreg ah well having lunch anyway

1:16 PM
!!/eightball should David have his lunch?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: don't count on it.

@DavidCarlisle Here's the \AND in the more economic way:
\usepackage{xparse}
\NewDocumentCommand{\AND}{sO{}mm}
{\IfBooleanTF{#1}
{\left(#3\wedge#4\right)}
{\mathopen{#2(}#3\wedge#4\mathclose{#2)}}}

$\AND{a}{b} \AND[\big]{a}{b} \AND*{a}{b}$
I'd prefer the OP use \wedge for \AND and not \vee. ;-)

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General opinion here seems to be that Pandoc is worth to try, if you, for some reason, want to convert Latex documents to MS Word. When I open pandoc.exe file I get a black window with a blinking grey line. This seems not to be DOS environment, as paste commands seem not to work here. According ...

I'm terribly lost.
!!/fencing
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Let's take a look at the last fencing results:

- Oh dear, nothing happened so far.

Our fencing expert Alan might explain these results later on.

@DavidCarlisle If you want to see \AND in action, look at tex.stackexchange.com/questions/89310/… which doesn't really seem a "real world example". :)

@egreg I'd have probably had an \ifx\@empty or two rather than sO{}mm but it's same thing really:-)

!!/eightball Should we use xparse?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: as I see it, yes.

1:26 PM
@Paulo Hello! the presentation is prepared, it's on the way ;)

@tohecz Yay! :)

Hi @Nicola !

@tohecz Wow! Very nice! :)

@tohecz Hi :-) My laptop is feeling poorly. It needs to wrap itself up warm and go to bed.

Yay @Nicola is here! :)

1:30 PM
@PauloCereda :-) Yeah, I'm back on line :-)
My laptop switched itself off while I was in the middle of trying to bundle up datatool for upload to CTAN.
I'm overtaxing it :-(

@NicolaTalbot I hope that the suggestion for fmtcount works

@tohecz I've put it in my TODO file :-)

@NicolaTalbot ok :)
@PauloCereda I esp. like pages 15-38 ;)

@tohecz I'd really like to rewrite fmtcount but it would take a lot of time and effort.
datetime could also do with a rewrite.

@NicolaTalbot Try pouring brandy into it

1:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle :D

@DavidCarlisle :-)
I think it was a thermal cutout. The fan's probably clogged.

@NicolaTalbot :(

Luckily I don't think I lost anything. It was just running pdflatex. I've just done my main and auxiliary backups :-)

!!/eightball Do you make backups?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: without a doubt.
Ah.
!!/eightball Do you prefer xelatex instead of pdflatex?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: it is certain.

@tohecz Really nice, but there should be an italic correction before $\mathbb{C}$ on slide 39 :-)

1:44 PM
@PauloCereda Very sensible :-)
Oh drat. I was just about to upload datatool when I noticed another bug report :-(

@NicolaTalbot :)
@NicolaTalbot Oh no!
!!/eightball Should Nicola fix the bug?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: outlook good.
:(

Hey guys! Is there a LaTeX command to say: "The enclosed code should be on one page" (some kind of environment, I guess)?
\begin{do-not-split-this} my code here that should all appear on one page \end{do-not-split-this}

@MartyIX Put the code inside a float?

I'll check what it is. Thanks

@MartyIX Perhaps put it in a box (\vbox or \parbox or \begin{minipage})

1:53 PM
@MartyIX You are looking for the listings package: ctan.org/pkg/listings

@NicolaTalbot Thanks, I'll try.

!!/eightball Are you hungry?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: outlook not so good.

@tohecz I don't actually need it for code listing. But thank you

@StephanLehmke yeah it should, but I don't want to risk plugging the USB stick into my computer again :D

@tohecz Let's consult the oracle. :)
!!/eightball Should Tom correct slide 39?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes. Beware, Alan might stab you.
o.O

1:55 PM
!!/eightball What should i eat for lunch?

@Timebandit Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: most likely.

@Timebandit Doesn't work this way, 8-ball replies to yes-no questions ;)

@Timebandit eightball is more of a yes/no query. :)

ok retry! :D

Psmith exists for the sole purpose of providing info of TeX.sx's favourite sport. :)

1:57 PM
I'll definitely become an alcoholic. :)
@egreg Well yes! You deserve at least a glass of wine! If you came at University of Calabria for such a conference please contact me through this post! Cheers R. — JeanValjean 5 mins ago

!!/eightball Should I eat soup for lunch?

@Timebandit Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes, definitely.

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General opinion here seems to be that Pandoc is worth to try, if you, for some reason, want to convert Latex documents to MS Word. When I open pandoc.exe file I get a black window with a blinking grey line. This seems not to be DOS environment, as paste commands seem not to work here. According ...

On topic?

@NicolaTalbot vbox helped, that's great :)

@JosephWright No.

1:58 PM
@JosephWright I can't understand the question!
@egreg If you do this:
Dec 2 '12 at 16:51, by egreg
@Jörg Next summer I'll make a big tour through Europe just to claim all the beers that I earned. :)
There's a high chance. :)
!!/eightball Will people really pay for egreg's beer?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: reply hazy, try again.

@MartyIX :-)

!!/eightball O most powerful oracle, we beseech thee! Will people pay for egreg's beer?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: outlook good.
@JosephWright: On a more serious comment, I'm afraid the OP is confused with the concept of a command line command.

@PauloCereda Probably
@PauloCereda SuperUser?

@JosephWright As the question is written, I'd say so.
Apart from pandoc, there's no link to TeX at all.

@PauloCereda Quite

2:02 PM
Drag-and-drop users. :)

Im sorry to ask that, but what does OP mean?

@Timebandit Original Poster

@JosephWright Ah, thank you!
@JosephWright Definitely, need to learn more English abbreviations.

@Timebandit No need to feel sorry! :) It means original poster, that is, the guy who originally posted the question. We have quite a bunch of acronyms around here. Just ask. :)

@PauloCereda Looking forward to learn them all, being a valuable part of the community :)

2:05 PM
@Timebandit :)
@JosephWright: I could add a list of acronyms to Psmith, so we can easily consult them. :)

@PauloCereda is there any key to answer any post or do i have to click this small arrow?

@Timebandit Oh I think there's some Greasymonkey script to ease the navigation through keys. Let me see if I can find it.
!!/eightball Do you like keys?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: without a doubt.
:)

nice! now i need do look for greasemonkey for chrome :D

I think Chrome (ugh!) has built-in support for Greasemonkey scripts.

!!/choose firefox, chrome, opera

2:14 PM
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: firefox
Good. :)

:P
Firefox faked the whole GUI of Opera...

4
:)

:)
ok i installed the script :D lets see if it works

@AlanMunn LOL
@AlanMunn: Mandatory palindrome reference:
:)

this script does not work very well oO

2:36 PM
Oh my, I can map arara to automatically generate TeX from R!
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@PauloCereda i installed the script but i wont work anny suggestions?

@Timebandit I'm sorry, no idea. I'm not fond of Greasemonkey scripts. :(

3:01 PM
@JosephWright: Do we have a list of acronyms?

@PauloCereda I think there was one somewhere

@JosephWright I found something. :)

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What are the common phrases, words, abbreviations that are used on Stack Overflow, Server Fault, Super User, Meta Stack Overflow, and the other Stack Exchange sites? This is meant to be a very quick overview, not an in-depth tutorial. When considering whether a term ought to be included, please...

@JosephWright Danke. :)
!!/define narq
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: NARQ: Not A Real Question
!!/define NC
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: NC: Not Constructive
!!/define dc
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: DC: David Carlisle

!!/define dpc

3:13 PM
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

Hmm, this should be David's acronym.

@egreg ooh there was a P. :)

!!/define egreg

@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.
!!/define EG
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: EG: Enrico Gregorio
I'm adding more as we speak. :)

@PauloCereda :D

3:14 PM
!!/define egreg
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: EGREG: Enrico Gregorio

Yay, I think datatool is ready to be uploaded to CTAN!

@NicolaTalbot Yay!
Fedora 18 is officially released.

3:32 PM
@PauloCereda Cool :-)

@NicolaTalbot Downloading it right now. :)

@PauloCereda Ooh, let me know how it goes.

@NicolaTalbot Sure! It might take a while until the DVD finishes downloading, but I'll report back as soon as possible. :)

4:04 PM
@JosephWright: hello? :)

4:29 PM
@PauloCereda Hello

@JosephWright Can I ask you a favour? :)

@PauloCereda Of course

@JosephWright There's a tiny typo in Marc's name in the Community Bulletin. :)

@PauloCereda Should be fixed when the system refreshes

@JosephWright Thanks. :) It's already fixed on my side.
!!/define jw
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: JW: Joseph Wright
!!/define dpc
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: DPC: David Carlisle

user19161
4:44 PM
@PauloCereda I am burning my F18 disc now...

@JasonBourne Really?! Mine is still downloading. :(
I still have to download x86 and x64.

user19161
@PauloCereda The live CD is huge right? I wonder if the office suite is included.

DVD's, not CD's.
@JasonBourne Not that huge, I think. Less than 1GB.

user19161
Yeah, the live DVD I mean.

user19161
Previously it was 600 plus now 900 plus.

4:46 PM
@PauloCereda JAW ;-)

@JosephWright Hold on. :)

user19161
Brasero always fails on me, using k3b on centos now...

!!/define jaw
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: JAW: Joseph Wright

user19161
WTF are you talking about? =)

@JasonBourne I used to play with GnomeBaker. :)

user19161
4:49 PM
@PauloCereda CentOS sucks, doesn't have gnomebaker or xfburn it seems...

@JasonBourne The repositories are quite feral with new packages.
Only critical stuff goes in.
I even suspect it runs on top of Python 2.4.

user19161
@PauloCereda k3b just give me such a loud music that it burned successfully!

hi folks =)

@Timebandit Hello
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General opinion here seems to be that Pandoc is worth to try, if you, for some reason, want to convert Latex documents to MS Word. When I open pandoc.exe file I get a black window with a blinking grey line. This seems not to be DOS environment, as paste commands seem not to work here. According ...

Thoughts welcome on the question of on/off topic here

5:05 PM
sorry never used it

5:19 PM
@JosephWright It's a tricky case. To the extent that pandoc counts as a TeX related tool, this particular question might be on topic. OTOH if most pandoc users are using it for other types of conversion there might be a larger user base on StackOverflow or elsewhere, but I don't know.

!!/define Yoda

@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

!!/define PW

@AlanMunn The problem for me is that the tool is simply being misused: like TeX, it's command line but the questionner seems to be expecting some form of GUI

@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

5:20 PM
!!/define BL

@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

@PauloCereda Snif

@Brent.Longborough Try again. :)

!!/define BL

@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: BL: Brent Longborough

5:23 PM
@JosephWright Well that doesn't make it a bad question, just a seriously misguided user :) It seems like it might be helpful to the user to just add an answer that says "Here's how you convert a simple TeX document using pandoc. (Not having used it, it's not going to be me, though.)

@PauloCereda Yay!

!!/define RTFM

@AlanMunn Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

Now that's just sad.

!!/define rtfm

5:24 PM
@AlanMunn That's what I hope I've linked to

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: RTFM: Read The Fine Manual
@AlanMunn (added now)

more or less

!!/define KOMA
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: KOMA: I have no bloody idea of what that means.

@PauloCereda "Read the fine manual" No souls were harmed in the making of this acronym

@JosephWright Why do I suspect that that page will be unreadable to the OP, given his current knowledge state.

5:25 PM
!!/define memoir

@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, I don't know this acronym.

!!/answer Is Psmith a prude?

@AlanMunn Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, no answers.
!!/define wisdom
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: WISDOM: Moral of the story: never read the documentation, bad things happen. - David Carlisle
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Internal count register? far too scary for me, it even has an sign in its name Replace database by editor, Postgres by emacs and we have David.

@AlanMunn Possibly, but that is not a TeX problem per se (the same would be true if he were trying to use say convert to deal with a TIFF image and tried to run the program without a command-line argument).
@AlanMunn There is an example for a .tex file on the Pandoc help page:
pandoc -o hello.tex hello.txt

@JosephWright Sure, I agree. The link reads in classic man page style. Not for Windows users' consumption. :)

5:29 PM
@AlanMunn Always a problem, although one could say the same about Mac users (i.e. about most people, when you add the two groups together)

@JosephWright We could have an arara rule for that. :)

@PauloCereda Well yes, but I don't think that would help here!

@JosephWright Ubuntu users too. :)
@JosephWright I was just thinking out loud, don't worry. :)

@AlanMunn As I said in a comment, a meta question might be appropriate
@PauloCereda :-)
@PauloCereda Everyone should use Debian or Slackware instead?
Or perhaps something like OpenBSD

@JosephWright Yes. :)
GUI for me was only through startx. :)

5:31 PM
@PauloCereda As I said before, I tried to install Debian once: I will not be trying that again

@JosephWright Slackware is a nice option, but it's too spartan for the majority of people. :)
Gotta love shutting down my machine with /sbin/shutdown -h now

@PauloCereda What about a computer which didn't have any GUI? Like a Vax/VMS some years ago. ;-)

@JosephWright Yes, you're right. I think more and more Mac users have some experience with using Terminal, though. There's lots of stuff on the regular Mac sites that use it, more so than for Windows, I think.

And the TeX previewer was dvitty. :)

@egreg ooh! :)

5:34 PM
@egreg Or Debian ...

@egreg Or your PDP 10.

@egreg Slackware still boots at init 3.
<3

@AlanMunn I have a nice PDF previewer on my PDP-10; it's called "printer". ;-)
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People get mad at me for having a XPS with a big prompt. :)

Friends, can you please help me here:
Is there a script sorta thing that works like .gitignore for Dropbox?
Easy-to-install ones preferred, of course. :)

5:40 PM
@kan Not that I know of.

@PauloCereda Now, I cannot write one, because, I just don't understand how this stuff works fully,
:(
@PauloCereda Anyway, thanks for telling me.

@kan A google search for dropbox ignore file gives some results.
@kan Never tried any such thing myself though, so I can't say anything about (ease of) use, installation etc.

Here is one that looks promising:

anyone tried the stackexchange userscripts for chatnavigation?

One more more TeXnical question: Is it possible to \patchcmd only for some parts of the code markup?

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