@JosephWright What do you mean? If literally, I'm looking at unicode-math package code to scan sscript characters and think that the variables are poorly named etc. (okay now that I know it's TeX limitation and stuff)

(I mean such as the non-BMP character in error messages bug I mentioned some time ago)

@user202729 sourceforge.net/p/xetex/bugs

Is it a known bug that XeLaTeX cannot generate synctex correctly if a paragraph only have one word?

Also ■ how do I get ∫α stuff to work in formula without utf8x ? (almost every solution I come across suggest defining each character manually)

The rest are • unixode (not in TeX live) • use unicode-math table in reverse (still need some manual definition) • inputenx (how do I even use this one?) [math] errors out

ucs package already have the table, right?...

@user202729 I just wondered why you are digging through unicode-math - most of the time it works OK

@user202729 Never seen that, and quickly checking it looks OK here

Partially because it adds 0.8s to the compilation time, and partially because some of the output looks different (∅, ℝ) -- tex.stackexchange.com/questions/125175/…

(although I know that it isn't the package's fault, it's the Latin modern math font)

... it works well for me now. I wonder why

@user202729 As @DavidCarlisle has said, unicode-math does loads of setup, so the time is not surprising, and also as he's said, given that TeX used to take >15 minutes per page, 0.8s load time is trivial to the point of being \simeq 0s

Could be a zathura thing, but it works well with LuaLaTeX

So not very likely

@JosephWright It's just "used to"

Nowadays computers are ~~more expensive~~ faster people would naturally expect more

@user202729 Yes?

@user202729 Sure, but for a batch process, taking a second or so is still tiny: I've got some pgfplots that take 10 minutes to run per page (lots) of data

I (used to) prefer realtime preview

@user202729 I guess I'm trying to get at that for most documents, this is still meaning you are under a few seconds to run the typesetting: unless one is building a large-scale website delivering 1000s of PDFs, that's almost certainly much faster than you can write

@user202729 It's quite possible: Will wrote it a while ago, and a reworking might use different names. Certainly when I redid siunitx I tidied up a lot of stuff

Regarding this

What does it save byte of? Certainly not the source code

Okay never mind

@user202729 Guess I'll post it on the main site instead for searchability (and I should also migrate some of my old issues asked in chat there)

@user202729 \active is one token, 13 is three

@user202729 about comments when you were looking at eg tmpa_tl are you looking at unicode-mah-luatex.sty or um-code-sscript.dtx ? All the comments are removed from the former.

Is parsing token significantly slower than characters? The eye have to handle 7 bytes anyway

@DavidCarlisle I'm okay with that one now. (but the dtx is used to generate the PDF right? I read the PDF)

@user202729 yes saved several minutes back then and even now for code like pgfplots or tikz with thousands of iterations it saves a visible amount of time, not so much the parsing as exectution \active is a number so terminates an assingment but if you do \foo=13\fumble, you have to expand \fumble decide if it starts with a digit if not put it all back, see

@user202729 yes the pdf is the typeset version of the dtx

@samcarter ooh it looks great, thank you! Would it be possible perhaps to move the halo a little higher?

@samcarter anathema sit

@DavidCarlisle You weren't in the list :(

@PauloCereda you shouldn't let such technical details stop you

@DavidCarlisle ooh I still can try, hold on

I think I got it. Each token is only parsed approximately once but they're used (expanded/"digested"?) several times

@DavidCarlisle ooh twitter.com/HAL9000_/status/1452878677235142659

@PauloCereda but its size would be context dependent, which might be scary

@DavidCarlisle oh no, a Python-like universe

@PauloCereda vote for me

@DavidCarlisle wait what?!

Where's Mensch?!

@PauloCereda that wasn't a real/valid nomination see the link sam c just put in the other room

@DavidCarlisle oh

@PauloCereda unlike my totally real and valid nomination, with much better questionaire answers than Alan Munn's

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@DavidCarlisle ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601

@DavidCarlisle Oh, other secret rooms... :)

@mickep ooh secrets

@PauloCereda Sure, that would actually be easier because I wouldn't have to worry about different hair styles :)

@samcarter ooh

@PauloCereda So, we now vote on hair styles.

@mickep ooh

@mickep No need to vote, red hair always wins :)

@PauloCereda ^^

@samcarter Well, difficult to disagree with that.

@mickep :D

@DavidCarlisle LOL

@samcarter boo

@DavidCarlisle Not everyone can be monochrome :)

@DavidCarlisle I'd call it 'versus FMi' but yes ....

@JosephWright vs. Nicky's datetime2 :)

@samcarter agreed :)

@PauloCereda <3

@samcarter <3

@user202729 you shouldn't need too many extra definitions if you input unicode-math-table tex.stackexchange.com/a/601583

Hi community, quick question: I know that \AtBeginShipoutNext{stuff} can do stuff at the beginning of the next page. Does a similar hook exist for the beginning of the right column in \twocolumn mode?

Yes I've read that answer of yours too.

OOH

VOTE CAST! ^^^

@PhelypeOleinik YES

@PhelypeOleinik First change will be the ban of all tikz answers, only picture mode will be allowed :)

@samcarter oh, a coup!

@samcarter LOL

@samcarter Second change: all blame shall be automatically assigned to @UlrikeFischer

Oh, wait

That's how things are already

@PhelypeOleinik :D

@PhelypeOleinik It isn't! Some blames are still withheld from me and assigned to other. This has to change.

@UlrikeFischer That's unacceptable!

@samcarter would such an improvement be enough to tempt you back?

@DavidCarlisle Nobody would be able to resist such a unique site :)

@PhelypeOleinik Thanks for your support. :)

@AlanMunn Happy to be a such a helpful member of this community

@AlanMunn Also, I guess that fixes the candidate count issue :)

@samcarter ^^^

@AlanMunn he was persuaded by the elegance of my prose in my nomination statement chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/59448904#59448904

@PhelypeOleinik easy solution! :)

@DavidCarlisle You forgot to mention that you would redesign the whole site in colortbl style

@samcarter yes hex colours are banned primary colours are what you need

@samcarter although for poke-you-in-the-eye brash colour panels on a site hard to beat:

@DavidCarlisle Does this meet your monochrome taste?

@samcarter better matches my hair than yours, yes

@DavidCarlisle :D

@DavidCarlisle How did @PhelypeOleinik vote for you? I can't see you as a candidate! imgur.com/JMQ5TAH

@Imran I edited the page source to add David as a candidate :)

@Imran same way I posted a nomination here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/59448904#59448904 we are just messing around and faking things in the DOM inspector in the browser

@Imran I mean: @DavidCarlisle is clearly the right choice, so the election is pointless

@PhelypeOleinik and @DavidCarlisle Oh! got it.

@JosephWright Did percusse withdraw his nomination or did the powers that be do it for him?

@AlanMunn Powers

@JosephWright No sense of humour? Or were they worried about an actual Boaty McBoatface outcome?

@AlanMunn I think 'no joke candidates' (though I don't think it was a joke per se, more a comment on the entire idea of moderators and elections-thereof)

@JosephWright True. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. It would be nice to see him back on the site, in fact.

@AlanMunn M'LORD!

/bows

/bows

@PauloCereda I just sent you an e-mail about a project you might be interested in. Not about ducks, but it involves several of your other interests. :)

@musarithmia Got it, thanks! :) And nice seeing you again, I do remember us talking in the past. :)

@PauloCereda likewise! My ability to be involved here has waxed and waned but I am glad to see you and so many others have kept the spirit so positive and constructive here!

@musarithmia not to mention the silliness. :)

@PauloCereda Silliness? Where? We are all deadly serious here.

@AlanMunn ooh

@barbarabeeton you seem to be the anatomy expert here, so this is probably one for you too ;) twitter.com/RyanPRL/status/…

@yo' -- Nice! (The little guy in front looks like he's wearing sunglasses.) (And, apropos of nothing in particular, earlier today I had a delightful talk with the new dentist in the practice -- the third generation of that family and a newly minted D.D.S. -- about snakes' dislocatable jaws. The things one manages to find of mutual interest!)

@yo' did @PauloCereda infect the team?