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1:18 AM
@StefanKottwitz Thank you, Stefan. For both replies.
 
 
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9:19 AM
Good morning. I am reading part of the pgfmanual right now. I saw that the last update was Revision 1.16 (2018/03/28). Is pgfplots still maintained?
 
 
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10:53 AM
Nov 25 '19 at 22:03, by Henri Menke
@DavidCarlisle That's what happened to Christian Feuersänger as well. I took over pgf but pgfplots is practically unmaintained right now.
 
@DavidCarlisle Sunday quack
 
@PauloCereda Sunday Dinner
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
Sunday TeXday! :-)
 
ooh tikzducks got updated.
 
10:59 AM
@PauloCereda the long awaited menu option?
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
@DavidCarlisle you are mean
 
Jun 29 '17 at 16:15, by Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle you are not mean :)
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
@HenriMenke ^^ :)
 
@PauloCereda :)) kind of Harry Potter option!
 
 
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1:31 PM
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@DavidCarlisle ^^
 
2:05 PM
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^^^ A conference. The duck is taking the minutes (we know that ...)
 
@UlrikeFischer oooooh
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks for the link to the chat regarding pgfplots. That's sad to hear but also normal life :). I hope, that someone can step in. PGF and pgplots are both heavy-weight-packages I think.
 
3:01 PM
@barbarabeeton you will perhaps like this: typography.com/blog/typographic-illusions
 
@UlrikeFischer -- Yes! Very nice! (It will be mentioned in my TUGboat column, so other people can benefit as well.) Thanks!
 
@barbarabeeton yay
 
@UlrikeFischer -- Hmmm. What other members of the menagerie aren't visible?
 
3:20 PM
Just bought a book from Amazon US, yay
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
3:43 PM
@barbarabeeton lots ;-).
 
@UlrikeFischer -- I suspected as much. (Our menagerie is also rather extensive. Sometime their representatives should meet.)
 
@UlrikeFischer odd to be discussing high level user syntax on a bug report stating that the underlying code is completely broken in rtl mode:-)
@barbarabeeton all the ones that have been eaten
 
@DavidCarlisle -- You are mean. Or insensitive to being surrounded by friendly critters.
 
@DavidCarlisle oh no
 
4:10 PM
@DavidCarlisle yes ;-).
@barbarabeeton do you have any opinion of the (non-) placement of hyphen here: "programming layer-interface" or "programming-layer interface" or "programming layer interface" (I always though english people prefer spaces to hyphens but there seem to be some subtilities going on ...)
 
@UlrikeFischer definitely not the first the third is OK, but probably the second is best where the hyphen just helps parse the three word term in the correct way (I am not @barbarabeeton:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle actually the first was never considered (I missundertood the explanation, it said that programming layer-interface doesn't make sense so one can leave out any hyphen). If you are not @barbarabeeton who are you ??
 
@UlrikeFischer yes it's true that "(programming layer) interface" is the only meaningful parse so your second and third examples are the same, but still I'd probably use the hyphen as it saves the reader considering and rejecting the first reading. (I am the native English speaker :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle yes understood, we will use the hyphen. Shouldn't it then be native-English speaker ? ;-)
 
4:46 PM
@AlanMunn talk about timing! I was just browsing github.com/alenaks/SigmaPie when I saw you in the chatroom. :)
 
cis
Ha! I predict you: Sage(math) and SageTeX will become world famous!

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A: Compute denominator and numerator of irreducible fraction from arbitrary fraction

cisAn implementation with the CAS Sage(math) and SageTeX: I use arara: sagetex for compiling. % arara: pdflatex % arara: sagetex % arara: pdflatex \documentclass{article} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{sagetex} \begin{document} \section{In} \begin{sageblock} x = 420 # Denominator MyRan...

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A: TikZ fpu seems to be inaccurate

cisAn implementation with the CAS Sage(math) and SageTeX: I use arara: sagetex for compiling. % arara: pdflatex % arara: sagetex % arara: pdflatex \documentclass{scrartcl} \usepackage{sagetex, amsmath} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{fpu} \newcommand\pgfmathparseFPU[1]{ \begingroup \pgfkeys{ ...

 
@cis possibly not, the number of places where it's reasonable to call out mid document is strictly limited, and needing shell-escape means it can never be allowed by default, good that you got it working though
 
5:23 PM
@PauloCereda Sub-regular? My side of the grammar needs a lot more than that. 😀
 
5:34 PM
@AlanMunn :)
@AlanMunn a bit more, I assume? :D
 
@PauloCereda Joshi argued for something in between context free and context sensitive.
 
@AlanMunn joshi pls
 
5:50 PM
@PauloCereda Aravind K. Joshi, K. Vijay-Shanker 1985: Some Computional Properties of Tree Adjoining Grammars. ACL 1985: 82-93
 
@AlanMunn oh no, now I have to read it
 
@PauloCereda Also Vijay-Shanker K. and Weir D. J. (1994) The equivalence of four extensionsof context-free grammars,Mathematical Systems Theory27, 511-546.
 
@AlanMunn oh no
Linguists are mean
 
@UlrikeFischer I'm sure the Queen would be horrified to talk like the natives. :)
 
@PauloCereda good job that was 1985, if they tried to write it now they'd spend years trying to use tikz
 
6:01 PM
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
cis
@DavidCarlisle @DavidCarlisle The very good packages pgfmath and expl3 unfortunately have their calculation limits. So there is some reason to invest in a real CAS that can be seamlessly connected to TeX (SageTeX).
 
@AlanMunn ooh colonies
 
@cis yes sometimes but not very often (that you can not simply pre-calculate the values needed) and shell-escape is a real issue
 
cis
6:27 PM
My idea for the shell-escape problem was: There should be a compiling-programm `sagelatex`, like `pythonlatex, biber etc.` instead of a package `sagetex.sty`.
But I can not write such one.
 
@cis for example for plotting you might need a few hundred function evaluations, it doesn't really make sense to call out a few hundred times starting sage each time to calculate one value, you can simply get sage to write a text file of x and y values and then pgfplots can simply plot the table.
@cis but whatever you call it; it means that if you take a document off the internet (say this site) and run it on your machine you are giving someone access to run arbitrary code on your machines with your full access rights.
 
cis
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I know the standard way. But I'm so pedantic that I also want to write the auxiliary text file (from Sage) in the TeX document; and then it continues with pgfplots(table). ;)
 
@cis but as I say you pay a high price for that somewhat slight benefit. If you need it and you have absolute control over the text document it's fine the security issues are no different to giving yourself access to the terminal commandline, but think twice before processing any document that you did not write
 
cis
@PauloCereda This is a very nice document. We need it 1 : 1, same graphic-style with TikZ...
 
 
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9:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle well, they could as well use picture in a couple of minutes, couldn't they?
 
@Skillmon probably did:-)
 

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