TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Joseph Wright

6:54 AM

LaTeX 2019-10-01 patch level 1 installed this morning

Paulo Cereda

8:41 AM

@DavidCarlisle oh no

Mr kayaker is mean

@JosephWright woo

David Carlisle

9:18 AM

@JosephWright should we take bets on PL2 ?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Likely I think: there are some edge cases coming out of the woodwork

Joseph Wright

9:56 AM

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Q: Include a string with spaces

So, I know that questions about how to deal with spaces have been asked a thousand times. But this problem seems unique \documentclass{article} \usepackage{pdfpages} \begin{document} \includepdf[pages=1]{"Multi page.pdf"} \end{document} running this in TeXworks gives me the error ! LaTeX Err...

texworks

@DavidCarlisle ^^^ 2019-10-01 PL1 to the resecue

David Carlisle

@JosephWright everyone editing the expandble primitives list this morning, almost makes you suspect that someone is writing an English language tex manual:-)

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Harald Hanche-Olsen

@JosephWright Not until it's in TL, presumably. I see it is on CTAN now; so perhaps it will be a short wait?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh a plot

David Carlisle

10:15 AM

@PauloCereda will you be able to read the English version any better than the original Japanese?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle it's all ~~Japanese~~ Greek to me. :)

@DavidCarlisle it could in German

Paulo Cereda

11:03 AM

Queen's speech, anyone?

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda couldn't bear to watch

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I will give it a try. :)

Ulrike Fischer

11:21 AM

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh

Ulrike Fischer

Holidays in Palermo - not listening to the Queen's speech ;-)

Paulo Cereda

11:37 AM

10 Downing Street

ooh I hear marching band

They could play Sousa's Liberty Bell, then the PM could say, and now, for something completely different...

I wanna be English

The PM should have used the Mr. Bean car, it would be awesome

ooh the London Eye

ooh the Thames

ooh there seems to be a cricket field nearby

Joseph Wright

@HaraldHanche-Olsen My TL updated this morning

Paulo Cereda

Where's the guards with the funny hat

This is too amusing

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda the ooh counter is whirling and might lift off

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh

@UlrikeFischer this is fantastic :)

ooh lots of lords

ooh the black rod

I've no idea of what's going on, but surely it's important

oh my there's a horse inside the palace

there are two horses

this is too confusing

YES YES

wait a minute, four horses

So the crown and the scepter go inside two royal carriages?

OH MY THE QUEEN

ooh my lords pray be sitted

ooh the black rod

Dennis Skinner was quiet today. :)

ooh they gave her a document

looks like a Word document, bah

Ulrike Fischer

12:13 PM

@PauloCereda one more horse (in Palermo)

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh :)

I think she mentioned a grant to the L3 project...

@JosephWright is looking quite happy today! :)

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Paulo Cereda

12:32 PM

Wait a minute, that was last year's?!

Here we go again

ooh the anthem

Phelype Oleinik

1:31 PM

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Q: Problem with chemmacros, beamer and filehook-scrlfile.sty

I am using chemmacros with beamer and it produces the following error 2017/08/28 basic chemmacros module (/usr/local/texlive/2019/texmf-dist/tex/latex/koma-script/scrlfile.sty Package: scrlfile 2019/10/12 v3.27 KOMA-Script package (loading files) LaTeX Warning: Command \InputIfFileExist...

beamer koma-script chemmacros

Looks like we need another filehook update...

Joseph Wright

@PhelypeOleinik Isn't this scrfile instead?

Phelype Oleinik

@JosephWright It looks to me that scrlfile was updated to match LaTeX's update as was filehook.

@JosephWright But filehook-scrlfile wasn't updated to match scrlfile's update

Joseph Wright

@PhelypeOleinik Oh, right: great (!)

Phelype Oleinik

@PauloCereda Not so happy anymore ^^^

Paulo Cereda

@PhelypeOleinik LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE

Phelype Oleinik

1:38 PM

@PauloCereda Blame the Jack o' Lantern :-)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright tex.stackexchange.com/questions/467360/…

Paulo Cereda

@PhelypeOleinik ooh

sollniss

1:59 PM

is it possible to rename a single figure? like changing the default "Figure 1: asd" to "Algorithm 1: asd"

David Carlisle

@sollniss \renewcommand\figurename{wibble}\caption{zzzz} (assuming it is numbered in sequence with figures)

sollniss

thank you

i guess it's not trivial to override the numbering?

@DavidCarlisle

or maybe defining a custom figure type with a separate numbering

David Carlisle

@sollniss why not use an algorithm float type?

sollniss

the template i use has figures formatted but algorithms not @DavidCarlisle

David Carlisle

@sollniss float package gives you a \newfloattype or any of the algorithm packages define such a type by default

sollniss

2:13 PM

another question, is there a way to set the alignment for captions of subfigures?

globally if possible

David Carlisle

2:34 PM

@sollniss its best to ask questions on the question and answer part of the site. it depends how you are implementing subfigures (standard latex has no subfigure commands) and how you are implementing captions. Most likely the answer is to use the caption package but it depends.....

sollniss

ok sorry

dedded

If I'm running lualatex on a Mac, and I have a font installed the Apple Font Book way as a user font, and have the same font in my Texlive installation, does the following install the Texlive copy or the Font Book copy of the font: \setmainfont{SourceSerifPro}[Extension = .otf]

David Carlisle

2:52 PM

@dedded @UlrikeFischer knows these things but I think you can look in /usr/local/texlive/2019/texmf-var/luatex-cache/generic/fonts/otl/ (or equivalent) at the relevant lua file and then the filename entry inthat file has the full path to the one it will use. (you can also specify the path in the optional argument to \setmainfont)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@JosephWright Hmm. The mirror automatically(?) chosen by my tlmgr (ctan.uib.no/systems/texlive/tlnet) seems to be a day behind.

Joseph Wright

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Ah, could be

dedded

@DavidCarlisle Ah, and search for "filename". Thanks!

Paulo Cereda

3:41 PM

@AlanMunn, @barbarabeeton twitter.com/muffkin7/status/1183752597028720642

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda non palindromic space

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda only 6 to go before the end of the world

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@HaraldHanche-Olsen ^^

/quacks is absolute despair

Paulo Cereda

3:59 PM

I need to use ooh with extreme care now

Maarten Bodewes

@PauloCereda I don't get that reference... Is it one?

Paulo Cereda

@MaartenBodewes it seems that the blokes here are counting the ooh's I say, and the counter is near 6666. :)

Hey you are the kayak bloke! o/

ooh kayak is a palindrome

That's another two!

oh no

and a half...

4:21 PM

@PauloCereda you could try making two of them in quick succession to "jump" over that number...

Paulo Cereda

@yo' ooh a plan

Harald Hanche-Olsen

4:42 PM

@PauloCereda or you could switch spelling: ꝏꜧ

Paulo Cereda

4:53 PM

@HaraldHanche-Olsen ooh

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CarLaTeX

5:26 PM

@UlrikeFischer Spritz?

GuM

5:37 PM

Hi evrybody! Just a quick message for @barbarabeeton: should you ever read this, could you please have a look at this question, and in particular at this comment to one of the answers?

barbara beeton

5:50 PM

@GuM -- An looking. One thing that I see in the output example is that the \EE sets below the expected baseline. That is built into TeX -- a defined operator name, if only a single character, will be vertically centered on the math axis, which is what is wanted for a large operator (\sum, \int, etc.). Since I retired from AMS, I have lost access to the resources I used to have, along with (I hope temporarily) the ability to test easily. But on this one, I hope memory is sufficient.

Ulrike Fischer

@CarLaTeX Si ;-), in the meantime the Lords of Palermo were watching over their fiefdom:

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh

oh no I need to go with Tom's plan!

ooh

-

ooh

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda I think you passed (but the search has a delay ... )

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer I am scared. :)

Ulrike Fischer

6:06 PM

@PauloCereda You made a huge jump from 6665 to 6668 ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer yay

GuM

@barbarabeeton Thank you for answering so quick! I see you speak of a feature that is explained in Appendix G, Rule 13, of The TeXbook; but I was not thinking of this (to be honest, I hadn’t even noticed this point!). What I was asking about was the reason of the peculiar behavior of \operatorname, which prevents the user from adding \limits.

…I mean, the rationale behind the choice of implementing this behavior, not a description thereof, or an explanation of how it is implemented.

…Those I already know…! ;-)

David Carlisle

6:24 PM

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@PauloCereda fortunately you were not quick enough and the authentic 6666 was captured as you see above ^

Skillmon

@StefanKottwitz gibt es auf TeXwelt eine Seite, die definiert, was on-topic ist?

David Carlisle

@GuM publishers trying to stop authors messing up their document and enforcing some rules? (@barbarabeeton)

GuM

6:36 PM

@DavidCarlisle This is also my guess (see this other comment).

CarLaTeX

@UlrikeFischer Oooh

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@PauloCereda busted!

Paulo Cereda

@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh no

GuM

I’m afraid I have to leave now, playtime is already over for me, this evening! Goodbye to everybody, have a good night/morning/afternoon/evening, depending on your time zone.

barbara beeton

6:52 PM

@DavidCarlisle and @GuM -- I've now answered: tex.stackexchange.com/a/512249 and I can't remember why unstarred \DeclareMathOperator doesn't react to \limits. Your hypothesis that AMS editorial staff doesn't want authors sneaking limits into in-text expressions is a good one though.

@DavidCarlisle -- Please add a request to implement recognition of \limits with the unstarred DeclareMathOperator to amsopn. (I promise to sign up to add issues to the Git record ... sometime.)

Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton ooh

Stefan Kottwitz

@Skillmon I did not check but I think the "Über/about" or FAQ page says it

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@PauloCereda shooting for 7777 already?

Paulo Cereda

@HaraldHanche-Olsen ooh a new goal

Stefan Kottwitz

@Skillmon Until something happens, one thinks people are mindful :-)

@Skillmon "Über", first line: "Hier kannst Du Fragen zu TeX und LaTeX stellen, Antworten schreiben und kommentieren."

@Skillmon FAQ: Welche Art von Fragen kann ich hier stellen? Am allerwichtigsten: die Fragen sollten hier relevant sein, also TeX, LaTeX und nahe verwandte Software betreffen.

David Carlisle

7:01 PM

@PauloCereda I blame your ooh counter

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@DavidCarlisle wait a second, how do you know about Fortnite? :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda bbc news

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Auntie

First bug report on Twitter ....

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright oh my

Joseph Wright

7:07 PM

@PauloCereda As in Auntie Beeb

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright ooh I am learning more stuff. :)

Sebastiano

9:14 PM

@egreg Hi, prof. Can I ask an help for a question on Math.SE, please, if it possible?

Sebastiano

9:40 PM

Hi, David.

@egreg On Math.Se I have an a question to hold. The answer is excellent, but I do not know how to make my question useful, not least because these are subjects I have never studied before. I am very sorry for the disturbance. Good night and good work.