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1:46 AM
@AlanMunn See my answer with Error-by-Design ...
 
1:59 AM
@AlanMunn There are now 110 questions left tagged with resume to be retagged. You can continue it doing it in the manner you find adequat. I will stop it now. And this is the next question needed to be retagged:
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Q: Lining up margins in lists to text below

AnonymousSuppose I have a resume made in LaTeX. I want to line up the margin of a specific section (or multiple sections, such that it lines up with the rest of the main text of the page. In particular, I want to line up the text in Margin1 and Margin2 below, such that the text in \itemize ends before the...

 
 
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4:20 AM
@Mensch The class used there is exactly one cited in the resume tag description: ctan.org/pkg/res, why do you want to retag that post?
@StefanKottwitz Swear it's true, lol!
 
4:34 AM
@Mensch I have no time nor inclination to do the retagging, and I wasn't trying to get you to stop, just to moderate your tagging activities over some days so that the front page doesn't get flooded. This is not just my personal opinion, but something that many of us think is important.
 
 
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7:58 AM
Does Khaled Hosny ever come here?
 
@FaheemMitha Yes
 
To chat, I mean.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes
 
@JosephWright Ok, thank you.
 
@FaheemMitha Not all that often, mind
 
8:01 AM
@JosephWright Right
 
8:18 AM
@Mensch what is the point of having distinct tags for each cv class?
@Mensch the last discussion I can see on the meta site re resume and cv tags was here, has this been raised since then?
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Q: Tags for resume and cv

Johannes_BWikipedia states the following: A résumé [...] is a document used by persons to present their backgrounds and skills. Résumés can be used for a variety of reasons, but most often they are used to secure new employment. A typical résumé contains a "summary" of relevant job experience and edu...

 
8:44 AM
@barbarabeeton I think they chose this word order because then it mimics the Danish text, which also mentions the lift first and then fire.
 
 
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9:57 AM
@UlrikeFischer did you know, miktex has a manual?
Worked perfectly, thanks! I needed to follow these steps: miktex.org/faq/local-additions and then register this path through the MikTex Console: %USERPROFILE%\Roaming\MiKTeX\mytexmf. Just putting the *.sty file in the same directory as the actual main document worked as well. — s6hebern 9 mins ago
 
@DavidCarlisle ;-). Sometimes I point people to it.
 
10:41 AM
I was just reading about unravel. How usable is it?
 
@FaheemMitha it's usable but there's not often you would need to use it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I see.
 
10:58 AM
@FaheemMitha Bruno wrote it: it works :)
 
11:20 AM
@JosephWright I was just wondering if it was suitable for casual debugging. For those times where you see an error but it's not clear where the problem really is.
 
@FaheemMitha almost certainly gives you information overload for casual debugging, but you can always try...
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok
 
11:41 AM
@DavidCarlisle did you look in another docu or only checked the catalogue ? ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer ctan catalogue naturally
 
12:28 PM
@UlrikeFischer I just did texdoc
 
@JosephWright me too. We both know how to find a docu ;-)
 
12:43 PM
@FaheemMitha I often use it for debugging expandable code, where you can't \show or anything like that. For non-expandable code I prefer other approaches. Few lines of TeX code make a lot of expansion steps in unravel. I'd say it's really useful, but not always.
 
1:09 PM
@JosephWright or at least it would work if people didn't keep adding new primitives to pdflatex :-)
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! Package unravel Error: Internal error: the primitive 'expanded' is not
(unravel)                known.
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, yes, he mentioned that
 
@DavidCarlisle Does that mean it will error out if it doesn't recognize a primitive?
@PhelypeOleinik I see. I was just thinking of using it as an additional debugging aid. Though I don't usually have major issues figuring out errors. But sometimes TeX errors can be very obscure.
 
@FaheemMitha given that the above is the only primitive that has been added to pdftex in the last 15 years and it knows about all the others (and knows about \expanded but assumes it is luatex-only) this isn't a major issue.
 
@DavidCarlisle Ok. I should take a moment to understand what \expanded is/does.
 
1:25 PM
@FaheemMitha Yes, I usually debug with \traceon, which is mostly makes it much faster to spot the problem, but some times that isn't enough (!), so I resort to unravel.
 
@PhelypeOleinik There is also a trace package. I tried it, but it's not clear to me what it brings to the party.
 
@PhelypeOleinik I should use that more, I habitually use \tracingall but that's somewhat verbose if you have a beamer document using tikz and expl3....
 
@FaheemMitha Real short: \expanded{stuff} it's an expandable \edef\x{stuff}\x (with some small differences). To enable it in unravel just move the line \__unravel_tex_primitive:nnn { expanded } { convert } { 34 } (1268 in my version) outside the \sys_if_engine_luatex:T conditional. I have that done in my copy.
 
@PhelypeOleinik You mean modify the source?
 
@FaheemMitha The trace package provides \traceon and \traceoff. The main advantages are: 1) they are shorter to write than \tracingall and \tracingnone and 2) they can be conditionally disabled in parts of TeX code which you are not interested. For instance, \tracingall hello\textbf{hello}\tracingnone produces more than 1000 lines of .log, while \traceon hello\textbf{hello}\traceoff produces 250.
@FaheemMitha xparse now supports the trace package, so \traceon\someXparseCommand{...}\traceoff is a lot shorter than \tracingall\someXparseCommand{...}\tracingnone.
@FaheemMitha yes no, who would do that? ;-)
 
1:33 PM
@PhelypeOleinik Conditionally disabled for certain TeX modes?
I read the trace manual. I didn't understand it that well.
But I haven't used such things much.
 
@FaheemMitha No, certain macros do \conditionally@traceoff to temporarily switch off \traceon, and \conditionally@traceon to turn it back on. For an example, see the definition of \__msg_use:nnnnnnn in expl3-code.tex:
\cs_new_protected:Npn \__msg_use:nnnnnnn #1#2#3#4#5#6#7
  {
    \use:c { conditionally@traceoff }
    \msg_if_exist:nnTF {#2} {#3}
      {
        \__msg_class_chk_exist:nT {#1}
          {
            \tl_set:Nn \l__msg_current_class_tl {#1}
            \cs_set_protected:Npx \__msg_use_code:
              {
                \exp_not:n
                  {
                    \use:c { __msg_ \l__msg_class_tl _code:nnnnnn }
                      {#2} {#3} {#4} {#5} {#6} {#7}
                  }
              }
 
@DavidCarlisle Hm. Apparently, they have added it to the binary but neglected to document it. This is certainly the first time I have heard about it, outside of luatex! (I think.)
 
@PhelypeOleinik So that macro won't get traced? Why is that done?
Suppose one wants to trace that macro?
 
@FaheemMitha It switches tracing off before the message-writing code, then switches it back on after. Message writing code produces really long logs.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Joseph Wright has a blog post about it. Since he was the one who added it.
@PhelypeOleinik I see. So some packages support this kind of thing. And presumably if they do, it helps.
 
1:38 PM
@FaheemMitha Because most of the time you aren't interested in the log produced by the error message, just in the message itself. So you assume that the error message code is correct and forget about it.
@FaheemMitha In that case, then you do \tracingall :-)
@FaheemMitha Precisely
 
Thank you for the explanation.
 
@FaheemMitha Oh, I see. I have actually read that blog post, but it has faded from memory.
@FaheemMitha Still, documentation by blog posts … leaves something to be desired.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen It's not documented in the manual?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen "they" being a well known mod around here....
 
@FaheemMitha Guess I'll fix that
 
1:49 PM
@JosephWright To be clear, that was a question, not a statement.
 
@FaheemMitha I've got to add \pdfmajorversion to pdfTeX and address some things about \input (and \openin, I suspect)
@DavidCarlisle ^^^
@FaheemMitha Yeah, I tided some docs up but forgot about this one: like @DavidCarlisle says, adding to pdfTeX is unusual
@DavidCarlisle There were the fake space primitives and I think some other stuff about font encodings
@DavidCarlisle tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/texlive-en.html#news says \pdfomitcharset was also added
 
@JosephWright Maybe add some actual example usage.
 
@FaheemMitha The pdfTeX manual is pretty terse ... I should ask Heiko I suspect (it's actually his code)
 
That often gets short shrift in TeX documentation.
But I've said that before.
Not always, of course. For example, PGF/TikZ is quite good. Relatively speaking.
 
@FaheemMitha '\expanded expands the balanced text argument as for \message, leaving the result of this expansion in the input stream'
@FaheemMitha '\expanded is itself expandable'
 
1:53 PM
And you can't do what it does with the other primitives?
 
@FaheemMitha Bruno did emulate it for expl3: it's hard but is doable
@FaheemMitha Point is it's a one-shot
@FaheemMitha I think Bruno's code needs something like 1000 steps at least to do the same
 
@JosephWright Oh. Well, anyway, examples are helpful.
Simple examples are good. Not so simple examples are also good, but it's best if they come after the simple ones.
 
@FaheemMitha It's handy for anything you want to act as a 'function' and which you want to be expandable
 
Steve Losh has a good discussion/guide on writing documentation.
@JosephWright Ok.
More people should read it.
 
@FaheemMitha The pdfTeX docs simply are not written like that: it's a formal reference work
 
1:58 PM
@JosephWright Even reference works can have examples.
 
\def\foo#1{\expandafter\fooaux\expanded{#1}}
\def\fooaux#1#2{#1:#2}
\def\baz#1#2{#2#1}
\foo{\baz{a}{b}}
\bye
 
@JosephWright do one need \color@begingroup in expl3 boxes? (I just found in xsavebox \hbox_set:Nn\l_tmpa_box{\color@begingroup some text A \color@endgroup})
 
@JosephWright What did \expanded get expanded to, going from line 1 to 2?
 
@UlrikeFischer No
@FaheemMitha ^^^ Very simply use of \expanded. The better examples I have are mainly 'hidden' inside expl3
@UlrikeFischer That might go back to before we changed that
 
And where did that #2 magically come from?
 
2:01 PM
@JosephWright I will add an issue.
 
Well, dinner time.
 
@UlrikeFischer Cool
@FaheemMitha The idea is that \foo knows that the argument it receives will be completely expanded before handing off to the auxiliary \fooaux
> \hbox_set:Nn=\protected\long macro:#1#2->\tex_setbox:D #1\tex_hbox:D
{\color_group_begin: #2\color_group_end: }.
@UlrikeFischer ^^^
 
@UlrikeFischer you could check with unravel :-)
 
@JosephWright good, so my memory didn't fail.
@DavidCarlisle then I would have to read the docu first - unless you tell me code ;-)
 
2:22 PM
@JosephWright I think I messed something up with my latest commit... DOS/Unix line ending stuff. Is it possible to undo a commit or do I just commit again the correct code?
 
@PhelypeOleinik We try to avoid rebasing on master, so revert the commit, then commit again: do you want me to back-out?
 
@JosephWright I don't know most of those words yet, so yes, please :-)
 
@PhelypeOleinik Backed out
 
@JosephWright Thanks :-) Sorry about that.
 
@PhelypeOleinik don't worry, simply name the commit "mumble".
 
2:31 PM
@UlrikeFischer Makes sense. I mumbled quite a lot when I realised what I had done :-)
 
@PhelypeOleinik obligatory git manual reference at this point:
If that doesn't fix it, git.txt contains the phone number of a friend of mine who understands git. Just wait through a few minutes of 'It's really pretty simple, just think of branches as...' and eventually you'll learn the commands that will fix everything.
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@DavidCarlisle It looks like I just haven't memorised enough shell commands yet. The rest looks exactly what I was doing :-)
 
@PhelypeOleinik It misses the 'ping Joseph' bit ...
 
@JosephWright A children's manual to git: You'll need some code, some shell commands, and a Joseph to help you with with the scissors :-)
 
2:53 PM
@DavidCarlisle Hopefully not how you actually use it.
 
@JosephWright the hover text suggests phoning you....
@FaheemMitha there is another way? That's the only manual I have.
 
@DavidCarlisle I hope you don't mean that.
 
@DavidCarlisle ;-)
 
I suspect Git's UI isn't the best or friendliest, but I've not really had enough exposure to form definitive opinion. Preliminary contact has not been promising.
 
@FaheemMitha I use a mix of the CLI and GitKraken: it's no worse than SVN or Mercurial, really
 
2:59 PM
@FaheemMitha I can't say it's any different to mercurial, for the things I have done in both,
 
@DavidCarlisle That would be the empty set, presumably.
@JosephWright Have you used SVN and Mercurial?
 
@FaheemMitha no I use svn every day and used mercurial for a while, when w3c used it, before they switched to git
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh, so you've used Mercurial?
@DavidCarlisle I see. Ok.
 
@FaheemMitha I've also used p4 (perforce) and rcs and cvs
 
3:05 PM
@FaheemMitha now almost everything at work is svn apart from a couple of projects in git and all my own projects or open source collaborations are in git
 
I really disliked SVN when I used it. Between 2002 and 2006 (approximately). I thought it was brain-damaged.
I was really happy to switch to Mercurial. Feb 2006, I think that was.
I'd been tracking it before that, bit it was missing some important features, which I felt I needed.
 
@FaheemMitha works pretty well here. just short of 200 thousand commits in the main repository, integrates well with trac etc.
 
3:30 PM
@FaheemMitha Yes, quite a lot
@FaheemMitha It's a different model to DCVS, that's all: worked fine for the LaTeX team code, plus my own stuff when it was on BerliOS
 
@JosephWright Overall, I think it's a worse model.
But of course it depends what you are doing with it.
 
@JosephWright I have been looking at the xform/xobject code. xsavebox wants a non-immediate version to be able to insert them only when used. But for xelatex this means going through the aux, so I have tendency to ignore this for the moment ... what do you think?
 
@FaheemMitha Well it's based around a very different approach, that's all
 
@JosephWright A centralized model.
 
@FaheemMitha for a highly centralised project which does have a reference repository it really makes no difference, and svn is simpler. But really as with many projects using svb, they were cvs before that and upgrading to svn was straight forward but switching to git would be highly costly and have no clear advantages (switching to anything else not even a consideration)
 
3:40 PM
@UlrikeFischer Would that tie us up?
@FaheemMitha Yes, but that's not necessary a bad thing
 
@JosephWright I suppose it depends on what you expect. Personally, I found it very limiting.
 
@FaheemMitha most code is coded in a centralised model
 
But I hear SVN still has lots of users, and I suppose those users are satisfied with it, otherwise they would be using something else.
 
@FaheemMitha Depends on who you mean: users as in code owner, developer, ...
@FaheemMitha If you are a corporate wanting a single controlled repo, it makes a lot of sense
 
@JosephWright Depends on what I mean by users? People who are using SVN as a version control system. That's all I meant by it.
@JosephWright Yes, I understand that some use cases may be different.
 
3:42 PM
@FaheemMitha I saw a survey that suggested it was still more projects than git for non public repositories (github dominates public repositories of course)
 
@FaheemMitha Yeah, but what I mean is that the developers actually using the system are not necessarily the people making the policy decision on what source control to use
 
@DavidCarlisle I think accurate numbers would be hard to come by, by definition.
@JosephWright Ok, I understand.
 
@DavidCarlisle I can well believe it: I'd be very wary of 'all repos are equal' with a paid-for codebase
 
Actually, I've heard rumors that Mercurial is quite popular for private corporate work. Which is why it isn't dead yet.
But obviously there is no way to verify that.
 
@FaheemMitha for example w3c still uses CVS but that doesn't mean they like it, just that changing from CVS would be prohibitively expensive.
 
3:46 PM
@DavidCarlisle Expensive? Why?
 
@JosephWright I don't think so, most other uses for xform I found are immediate. \pbs_pdfxform:nnnnn has an argument: #2 =1 means immediate, but I find this a bit odd, two commands looks better. But how to name the immediate version if we want to keep the possibilty open that a non-immediate variant will be needed?
 
@FaheemMitha person time (it is a massive repository with every edit to every page and until recently (when they started using github) every edit to every spec draft) going back to 1998 or so together with integration into a load balancing web server that gives the public view and deals with some ridiculous number of page requests, so in practice new spec development now done in git but the core CVS infrastructure is still in place
 
@FaheemMitha @DavidCarlisle People are catching on to your presupposition tricks. :)
 
@AlanMunn but they may make wrong assumptions by doing so
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed
 
3:51 PM
@AlanMunn presupposition tricks?
 
@FaheemMitha statements like "all my questions on the main site are about mercurial"
 
@UlrikeFischer I've seen teh pbs stuff, wasn't keen on the way arguments are used for stuff. We want now and shipout versions I guess
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't follow.
 
@FaheemMitha A presupposition is a statement that is presumed to be part of the common ground of discourse between speakers. So e.g. if I say "My brother is tall" that presupposes that I have a brother. When David talks about "All my questions" that presupposes the existence of at least some questions. Since David hasn't asked any questions, such sentences are said to exhibit presupposition failure.
 
@JosephWright now sounds good. Is shipout right? They are only used when referenced. Do you think one should always store the dimensions of an xobject for later access?
 
3:57 PM
@FaheemMitha When you responded skeptically to David's claim abut having used both mercurial and SVN (your "empty set" comment) you assumed that he was making the same kind of presuppositional failure sentence he is known for. But in this case it wasn't a presupposition failure.
 
@AlanMunn I see. Thank you for the explanation.
I don't think I've heard that particular piece of terminology before.
In other news, I see Mr. Trump is busy making new friends.
 
@UlrikeFischer I'm modelling on what we have already: so perhaps now and later or at_use?
 
4:19 PM
@FaheemMitha You spotted a duck?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen No duck. Just dinner. Sans duck.
 
Jun 6 '18 at 15:36, by Alan Munn
@DavidCarlisle You're getting such a lot of mileage out of presupposition failure these days.
 
Actually, duck is probably quite expensive here, but I'm never personally priced it.
@HaraldHanche-Olsen And here I thought it was just British humour.
 
4:37 PM
@FaheemMitha Isn't it?
 
@JosephWright \pdf__backend_object_write:nn is immediate, so perhaps \pdf__backend_xform_write:nnnn for the immediate and if needed \pdf__backend_xform_write_later:nnnn for the non-immediate version.
 
@AlanMunn Dunno. Is it?
 
@FaheemMitha Well I'm British too, although I grew up in Canada. And @DavidCarlisle and I rarely (if ever) fail to get each other's jokes which is a sign we share a very similar outlook on humour.
 
@AlanMunn Oh, you're British? I thought you were American.
 
4:57 PM
@FaheemMitha No, I only live there.
 
@AlanMunn Ok. You did seem a bit of an untypical American, but American academics are (or can be) a bit untypical anyway.
 
@FaheemMitha I'd have to be very untypical to spell the way I do if I were American. :)
 
@AlanMunn If you mean the British spelling, I actually hadn't noticed that. But now that you point it out...
 
5:15 PM
@AlanMunn Interesting to note that in Pennsylvania, they have Centre County (I spent a year there). I wonder when the spelling changed. Or perhaps some emacs user accidentally hit C-t?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Pennsylvania is one of the original 13 states, so there are plenty of old spellings around. And the US spellings promoted by Webster were proposed in the early 1800s.
 
@AlanMunn But wouldn't growing up in Canada make you... Canadian?
 
@AlanMunn Hmm, interesting.
 
@FaheemMitha Well becoming a Canadian citizen made me Canadian. :) But I didn't do that until I left for grad school in the US. But yes, I do also consider myself Canadian. But I certainly had a fairly British upbringing at home.
 
@AlanMunn Now I'm wondering what a British upbringing in Canada would look like.
Indians (for example) take their culture with them when they move to the West, but their culture is quite different.
 
5:31 PM
@FaheemMitha The principles are the same, really. And there are plenty of differences between British and Canadian culture. It also depends on the attitude people have to being immigrants "We're here to make a new life in this country" vs "We're in the colonies. Best put up with it." Mine was a bit more of the latter than the former. :)
 
@AlanMunn Plenty of differences? Really? For example? I know a little about the UK, and probably less about Canada. But I don't see dramatic differences. Of course, the UK is culturally distinct from Canada (and the US).
BTW, "Bend it Like Beckham" is a file about UK/Indian cultural clashes, and I'd say that some of the time, at least, it's in the ballpark.
Actually, there is a fair amount of Indian stereotyping there, but that doesn't necessarily make it inaccurate.
 
@FaheemMitha I'm not saying that the differences are as big as that; they're not, but there are plenty of things that are quite distinct. Canadian and American culture are much closer to each other (in some ways) than they are to British culture.
 
@AlanMunn Yes, I agree Canada and US culture are more similar to each other than to the UK.
 
5:47 PM
@FaheemMitha Some examples: (as regards raising children) N. Americans (generally) think that organized sport for children is important. N. Americans tend to keep children and adults separated in ways that are strange to Europeans (e.g. children not eating with the adults). N. Americans have a different interaction with nature (more outdoorsy in the hiking and camping sense). Many N. Americans hunt. And then there's British food. I assume you've had Marmite? :)
 
"Bend it Like Beckham" isn't an accidental mention. I recall watching that film with decidedly mixed feelings. It pushed a lot of buttons for me. For one thing, I had a hard time picking a side to identify with.
 
@FaheemMitha My kitchen always has Marmite and Ribena in it. These are quintessentially British.
 
@AlanMunn Actually, I thought of mentioning Marmite earlier. But didn't want to go to those British stereotypes.
 
@AlanMunn In Italy children don't eat with the adults on weddings or other similar occasions
 
And no, I haven't eaten it, but I've heard a lot about it.
 
5:50 PM
@CarLaTeX Really? So I overgeneralized about Europeans then. I know my parents found this idea extremely odd.
@FaheemMitha Well culture is in a way a set of stereotypes.
 
@AlanMunn I'm not aware of those differences, but my interactions with both British and American families has been extremely limited.
 
@AlanMunn Yes, sometimes also, for example, at Xmas party if there are many people
 
@FaheemMitha Apart from the "you either love it or you hate it" slogan, I think you need very early exposure to like it. Just like learning a language, there's a critical period. :)
 
@AlanMunn Hmm. So which side are you on? :-)
 
@FaheemMitha Well since I always have it in my kitchen it should be obvious. :)
 
5:52 PM
@AlanMunn I can't see your kitchen from here. But ok.
 
4 mins ago, by Alan Munn
@FaheemMitha My kitchen always has Marmite and Ribena in it. These are quintessentially British.
 
@AlanMunn Sorry, I missed that.
Actually, the films of Mira Nair also do fairly accurate culture-clashy stuff.
Like "Missisipi Masala", for example.
 
@AlanMunn A colleague of mine, who lived in America many years, once told me Marmite is the most disgusting thing he have ever eaten :)
 
An Indian family freaks out when they discover the daughter is dating a black man.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, I was going to mention that one.
 
5:55 PM
Ms. Nair seems quite ordinary in interviews, but she's a very talented film maker.
@AlanMunn In what context?
 
@FaheemMitha When you brought up Bend it Like Beckham.
 
There's also "Monsoon Wedding", which manages to cover standard Bollywood topics, but somehow make it charming.
@AlanMunn Ah, right.
 
@CarLaTeX But how would he even have tasted it here? It's certainly not something Americans eat.
 
Anyway, perhaps I shall taste Marmite one day.
I actually tried eating Karela recently. Because Kipling mentions it in the Jungle Book.
 
@AlanMunn He was in New York, he ate it there
 
5:58 PM
"The Karela, the bitter Karela shall cover it all". (Quoting from memory.)
 
@CarLaTeX I guess in New York you can eat anything the world has to offer almost.
 
I mentioned it to my cook, who said, that yes, they (his family) eat it.
I tried it. I think I managed two bites.
 
@AlanMunn Yes, sometimes you can find a very good pizza, too
 
Recommendation: avoid the karela.
 
@FaheemMitha I know it from Chinese cuisine, but apparently it was imported originally from India.
 
6:00 PM
Actually, it's the Second Jungle Book. "Mowgli's Song".
@AlanMunn I can't understand how anyone could eat it.
 
@FaheemMitha It's not something I'd seek out, but I don't recall having such a visceral reaction to it the times I've eaten it.
 
@AlanMunn Depends on how it's cooked, perhaps.
 
@FaheemMitha Very likely.
 
 
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7:04 PM
hi, just a question which I think is out of scope of this site but it may have an answer from its users. I have many different pdf documents in my archive including papers, ebooks, handnotes, etc. How do you manage your pdf documents?
Condition gets worse when I want to read them on the go on my tablet and my laptop in different hours of the day. Software like mendeley do not have a cloud storage to store my files there. They cannot also connect to dropbox or other share apps...
Could you please share your own archiving methods, organizing files, etc...
 
@EnthusiasticEngineer My organization method is one of general disorganization and good searching fu :) For this method to work it helps to name files well. I use BibDesk on a Mac, which does do a good job of managing PDFs of anything that has a proper bibliographic reference. Drag and drop onto the the entry and it files and renames it automatically for me. Everything is in the cloud.
 
 
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9:00 PM
@egreg What is an hack?
 
@Sebastiano See the picture
 
@Sebastiano A hack is something that works, but is not done in an optimal/general way.
 
@AlanMunn @egreg Now it is clear :-). You know, my English is a low level now. Thank you always. ....and good night.
 
@egreg Is it me or my reply to Frank's mail didn't make it to the Team list?
 
@PhelypeOleinik Huh?
 
9:08 PM
@PhelypeOleinik I didn't get it. Remember to change the “to” address when you reply. I forgot that several times at the beginning.
 
@JosephWright That scontents thread. It doesn't look like my reply made it out of my inbox...
@egreg I think I did that...
 
@PhelypeOleinik Maybe it's been put in a queue for approval. It happened also to me.
 
@egreg @JosephWright I did receive an automatic e-mail later: "Your message to Latex-team awaits moderator approval"
@egreg Hm, yes apparently.
@egreg Is there something I can do about that?
 
@PhelypeOleinik That's it! Probably Rainer has to do something about it.
 
@egreg Actually, that would be me ...
 
9:11 PM
@AlanMunn Sometimes it means a clever way of doing something. Or it used to.
 
@JosephWright Someone easier to address the blame :-)
 
@PhelypeOleinik yay
 
@egreg @JosephWright seems to be the moderator of everything nowadays...
 
@PhelypeOleinik hmmm
@PhelypeOleinik da boss
 
@PhelypeOleinik I understand that Rainer is looking to hand over CTAN admin too ...
 
9:13 PM
@FaheemMitha I think cleverness is an independent property. For example, if you use some code that isn't really designed to be used that way, it might be very clever, but it's still may not be the best way to solve the problem.
 
@JosephWright ooh da big boss
 
@PauloCereda Another l3build release ...
 
@AlanMunn thank you
 
@JosephWright ^^^ ack :)
 
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@PauloCereda @JosephWright ^^^^
 
9:22 PM
@PhelypeOleinik LOL
 
9:47 PM
@PhelypeOleinik Should we say “bacio le mani a vossia” when addressing @JosephWright?
 
@egreg We better! Who knows what might happen to us otherwise ;-)
 
@egreg I think I will find a hummingbird head near my pillow.
 
 
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11:24 PM
@CarLaTeX Well, I did not have a look into the question, it should be the next to be checked in the resume list. I deleted my two lists being the basis for correctly tagging (related filenames and existing related tags for cv). End of action ...
 

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