@JasperLoy Not my favorite movie. My favorite line is, of course, “Nobody‘s perfect”

@Skillmon Why is this necessary?

Also, what's a Q&A package most commonly used?

^ hopefully, this is what @Skillmon meant. I'll try my luck with it today.

@PauloCereda Where did they find it?

Hey, how do i get small roman numerals in itemize?

i mean enumerate

@marmot -- pursuant to some comments in the main site, can you please get in touch with me offline. i'm contemplating a talk at tug 2019, and would like to gather some independent opinions on the topic in question, and i think you'd have some pertinent ones.

@barbarabeeton Will be my pleasure ... after dinner. ;-)

@Nick -- that's quite a delightful cover. unfortunately, there's something very fishy about the "overfull hbox" message -- the excess is waaaaay larger than 10pt!

must be the red filling and not the text

@barbarabeeton Is this you official email: tech-support@ams.org ?

@marmot -- that's the official ams tech-support queue (where i'm the official "bot"). better for this project to use my direct line, bnb in place of the queue.

@barbarabeeton You got mail. ;-)

@marmot -- well, i suppose it will be delivered sometime soon. the mail system is quite unpredictable -- i've known time-challenged temporary password reset assistance (good for only 15 minutes) to arrive as much as 5 hours later. but fear not -- i need to be in the office to get access to the information i want to send. tomorrow. (thanks.)

@barbarabeeton My university email server is certainly not better. I swallows emails, e.g. one by Ulrike Fischer, and is generally very generous when swallowing emails from persons with Asian names.

@marmot -- well, it did arrive, and a response is being concocted.

@marmot My uni doesn't even give me email :/

@Nick At a given point in life you will see that this is a blessing. ;-)

@marmot maybe so.

I won a very useful hat, I dare say essential!

And now pizza delivery!

@marmot vvv

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@barbarabeeton it is the pocket edition

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@PauloCereda 5527

@DavidCarlisle ooh acounter

@PauloCereda counter? vvvv

\documentclass{article}

\newcounter{ooh}
\renewcommand\theooh{%
\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\zz
\expandafter\romannumeral\the\value{ooh}000h}
\def\zz#1{\if m#1o\hspace{0pt}\expandafter\zz\else h\fi}
\begin{document}

\setcounter{ooh}{5527} \theooh

\end{document}

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@PauloCereda the document needs an arara rule to update from chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=ooh&user=6485&room=41

@DavidCarlisle ooh I can write one

@PauloCereda 5529

ctan-post: version 2018-12-23
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0
curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
More details here: curl.haxx.se/docs/sslcerts.html

curl performs SSL certificate verification by default, using a "bundle"
 of Certificate Authority (CA) public keys (CA certs). If the default

@DavidCarlisle Hmm, now I'm getting past the URL business but ...

I had some issues with https certificates when I was testing the prototype, let me see if i can remember anything...

@JosephWright what command did you use exactly for the above, i could try here...

@JosephWright I just pulled the latest l3build and tried l3build upload --dry-run in teh l3build directory, seemed to work Ok it prompted for some fields then reported

ctan-post: topic macro-supp
ctan-post: topic package-devel
ctan-post: update true
ctan-post: uploader ??
Enter uploader
> zzzz
ctan-post: version ??
Enter version
> zzz
Warning: skip unknown form field: \n* A system for typesetting package
Warning: documentation
Warning: skip unknown form field: and\n* An automated process for creating
Warning: CTAN releases.
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed

@JosephWright which is Ok (as I had uploaded 0byte l3build.zip file, which the ctan validator clearly got, but declared invalid)

@JosephWright but Warning: skip unknown form field: \n* A system for typesetting package looks like issues in the form quoting?

Hey! I think I might be experiencing a weird bug with pdflatex; hyperref coloring is inconsistent between the first and rest of the pages. On the first page, links (such as citations) show up in the default Maroon color, the rest of my links on other pages are colored blue, the color which I specified. Xelatex does not show this behaviour on the same .tex file. Anyone know what's going on?

Think I saw this weird issue on an old pdflatex created document as well, with a somewhat different latex install.

@rien333 make a small complete example that can be used for test and ask on the main site. Or add an issue to the hyperref issue tracker github.com/ho-tex/hyperref/issues.

Okay, suppose I will do that.

hm, nvm. For some reason the bug is only present in my main pdf reader (zathura) but not in others (okular). Pretty strange.

@UlrikeFischer ooh the ho-tex

Fixed it by switching from the mupdf backend to the poppler backend.

@CarLaTeX @samcarter @PauloCereda ^^^

@UlrikeFischer Caspar, Melchior and Balthasar?

@UlrikeFischer They look great!

or is the one with the green stripes a soccer duck?

@UlrikeFischer Oooh also decorated! Gorgeous!

@samcarter I will leave the interpretation to the viewer of the piece of art ;-)

@DavidCarlisle ^^^^ cookie mode ;-)

@UlrikeFischer Ok, I'll just wait until the great cookie art guide book goes on sale :)

@JosephWright Is it possible to ask the moderators to stop another user who permanently goes after me and makes one wrong accusation after another? (I guess you may know whom I am talking of.)

@marmot As with any mod issue: flag it, that way all mods (including SO staff) can see it. We can ban people permanently, but that would be only as a last resort: I'd expect in most cases to use timed bans first.

@Nick it's not, strictly speaking, but siunitx does somewhat ensure correct formatting (if used correctly that is). And the 85\,\% is somewhat the way it should be, because a number should be separated a tiny bit from the unit but not by a full space. In the SI it is the way it should be typeset if done correctly. Maybe in your country that's different. If that's the case, I'm sorry I worried you.

@Nick something like that, yes.

@PauloCereda Would arara run without any % arara : inserted by the user? One of the objectives of Overleaf is that the hurdle for new users is as close to non-existent as possible.

@Skillmon I hope not. One of the objectives of arara is only to do what the user explicitly asks it to do and not to guess around like the other automation tools.

@Skillmon iirmathc, % is an alias for 1/100 treated as post-operator. ie, x% := x*0.01. We don't treat it at a unit usually. This is newspaper convention here.

We see those similar to symbols in algebra. In math, you can express 2*a*b as 2ab. Then, 6m would be 6 meters easily. Not 6 m.

I agree units should be spaced, but not single letter abbv.

@Skillmon No, unless Overleaf sets a set of predefined preambles and let the users pick one.

@UlrikeFischer ooh

@Skillmon I'm with @Nick on this: 10\% is right, 10\,\% isn't.

@egreg As you might guess, I'm with @Skillmon (percent is in the SI Brochure, which is why it's in siunitx, and that makes it a unit-of-sorts)

@JosephWright The degree symbol is not spaced and it stands for \pi/180.

@egreg Sure, but that one is explicitly mentioned

@egreg You can of course do \DeclareSIUnit[ number-unit-product = ]{\percent}{\char37 } to set that up: I don't want to impose on anyone

@JosephWright Well, the guys at the BIPM are wrong. ;-)

@egreg I know you appreciate that I have to make some decision on these things, and that whatever it is, people will complain :)

@JosephWright :)

@egreg Ah, they do require a space:

@JosephWright Yes, I saw it: engineers don't know math, but they believe to have created it. ;-)

@egreg Where the BIPM say something, I go with it: I don't really want to have 'sort-of-but-not-quite what the rules say'. Doesn't mean I agree with every rule, but it does mean I can say 'there is a reason for this'. Of course, that's a bigger issue with the 'what units to include' business ...

@JosephWright That's right: a standard should be followed in technical matters. Mathematics is not a technical matter, so I'll continue to unspace %.

@egreg I refer to my earlier comment :) A key idea in siunitx is that it's flexible: I want people to be able to use the semantic mark-up and adjust the output based on what they (or their editor/publisher) says is correct.

@JosephWright That's one of the reasons why I recommend using siunitx.

@egreg I'll admit I've wondered about this one myself: at one point, I did think percent should go entirely, but then I spotted it in the Brochure.

Speaking of which, I really should finish v3 ...

Everyone ready for Christmas (where relevant ...)

@JosephWright All cookies in position ;-)

@UlrikeFischer Nom nom

@JosephWright Tortellini are ready for cooking. Hand-made, of course. Sister in charge of the cake.

@egreg Nom nom

@egreg totally with @JosephWright on this. There are norms around for units.

@UlrikeFischer I don’t recall the details, but convincing fontspec not to set mode=node seems to be a lost cause, how are you doing it?

@KhaledHosny I defined a key value and then use Renderer=harf:

\ExplSyntaxOn
\keys_define:nn {fontspec-renderer}
 {
  Renderer / harf .code:n =
   {
      \tl_set:Nx \l_fontspec_mode_tl {harf}
      \tl_gset:Nx \g__fontspec_single_feat_tl { mode=harf }
   }
 }

\ExplSyntaxOff

@KhaledHosny but we should naturally ask Will to implement this properly. Should be easy.

@JosephWright I think it is harder to understand that mol is a SI base unit...

@KhaledHosny Ah,I found the reason for the error, I had commented luatexbase (I thought it is not needed).

@Skillmon We like moles :)

@JosephWright I just tried the kannada example from github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/20 with luahblatex + the harfbuzz mode and get the same output as with xelatex ;-).

@UlrikeFischer All looking good then!

@JosephWright looks so, one can choose between the harfbuzz mode and the normal node mode depending on the font.

@JosephWright but it could be that you need a newer luaotfload, I don't remember if the code changes Marcel made for the mode switches are already on ctan.