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baxx

12:41 AM

if i have a file called file.pdf.pdf is there a way to import that in minted without changing the file name?

marmot

4:35 AM

@DavidCarlisle Didn't you claim you have a crystal ball?

CarLaTeX

5:42 AM

@samcarter I tried but didn't get it :(

Raaja

6:34 AM

@marmot regarding the question I asked yesterday: the mess is because of the shifts in x and y.

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Q: Fill between breaks suddenly

I am trying to plot a function as shown below: \documentclass{standalone} \usepackage{pgfplots} \pgfplotsset{compat=newest} \usepgfplotslibrary{fillbetween} \begin{document} \pgfmathdeclarefunction{gauss}{2}{% normal distribution where #1 = mu and #2 = sigma \pgfmathparse{exp(-((x-#1...

Stefan made a nice solution to overcome it.

CarLaTeX

7:55 AM

@samcarter Got it! But the hat flies away when you're driving a convertible :)

David Carlisle

@baxx the file name doesn't make any difference what is in it? I would guess it is a pdf file in which case minted can't do anything as it is a verbatim-style package for including text files.

@marmot probably egreg stole it along with all the ticks

Harald Hanche-Olsen

8:16 AM

@DavidCarlisle Let him have them. Ticks are dangerous – their bite can give you meat allergy, and where would you be then?

I think you could still have duck, though, even if you did get meat allergy. It's mainly mammals you'd have to avoid. Along with dairy products, plus contact with leather wool in severe cases.

Paulo Cereda

8:43 AM

ooh ducks

Ulrike Fischer

9:06 AM

@CarLaTeX @samcarter I got it too, but I had forgotten, that one can wear only one hat at a time, so I had to use it as a river ...

samcarter

9:21 AM

@UlrikeFischer :) On your avatar it looks like a castle moat :)

marmot

@Raaja I would actually use group plots for this.... much less trouble.

David Carlisle

@samcarter a moat, also used for keeping the evening meal fresh

samcarter

@CarLaTeX Oh no! Better ask @marmot to ride in the back of your car and catch your hat!

@DavidCarlisle I like another definition better: a moat to keep hungry duck-eating English men away :)

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle you can't get this duck - it would proof that you found the question button.

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer I really can't find it now as since the "re design" I'm using a user stylesheet to restyle the page, and I removed that useless button while I was setting up the new style.

CarLaTeX

9:29 AM

@UlrikeFischer What a limitation! We should protest with the Powers!

@samcarter :)

David Carlisle

@CarLaTeX get Phil to write a letter

Raaja

@marmot I think I should have gone for that at first.

Paulo Cereda

9:43 AM

@DavidCarlisle there we go again

samcarter

@DavidCarlisle I have a macro for this: \marmot[askphil] (but it won't result in a letter)

Paulo Cereda

@samcarter ooh a4paper

samcarter

@PauloCereda :)

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle it is always a good idea to remove temptations from sight ;-)

Paulo Cereda

11:14 AM

@samcarter how do you like my new hat?

It's brand new. :)

Quack <3

samcarter

11:34 AM

@PauloCereda Oh, a double duck :)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

12:25 PM

@samcarter $\duck^{\duck}$

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Raaja

1:02 PM

and they say quack quack

David Carlisle

1:39 PM

@samcarter @PauloCereda sort of like a big mac compared to an ordinary burger

samcarter

@DavidCarlisle You are mean :)

David Carlisle

Jun 29 '17 at 16:15, by Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle you are not mean :)

samcarter

1:56 PM

@DavidCarlisle Good to see that some things never change :)

Harald Hanche-Olsen

@samcarter plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Alan Munn

How can I make a macro that produces smaller sized math? I'd like something like \newcommand\foo[1]{\footnotesize\ensuremath{$1}} but that produces tons of warnings when I do \foo{\foo{A}}.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn what do you want the nested one to do? be the same size or be smaller still?

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Same size.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn \def\foo#1{\mbox{\footnotesize$#1$}}

Alan Munn

2:04 PM

@DavidCarlisle Perfect. Thanks.

egreg

3:16 PM

@AlanMunn \newcommand{\foo}[1]{\substack{#1}}

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

Alan Munn

@egreg Thanks, any advantage of one over the other?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle you are mean

egreg

@AlanMunn That mine also works in the context of \Large or \footnotesize.

Alan Munn

@egreg Ok. Probably not an issue in the actual use case, but yes, that's useful. Thanks.

egreg

3:26 PM

@AlanMunn Add \ensuremath around the code, if you need so.

Alan Munn

@egreg Yes, that's what I'll do.

egreg

@AlanMunn Or \newcommand{\foo}[1]{\mbox{\check@mathfonts\fontsize{\sf@size}{0}\selectfont$#1‌$}}

Alan Munn

3:45 PM

@egreg Hmm. That shrinks when embedded which I don't want. (Weirdly there's also two spurious invisible characters before the last $).

David Carlisle

4:07 PM

@AlanMunn he'll try to steal a tick even when there are none to be had.

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Indeed. But I like the irony of the fact that the most recent version has spurious (invisible) spaces. :)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle hmm

David Carlisle

Apr 15 at 9:38, by David Carlisle

@PauloCereda dinner!

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@DavidCarlisle mml-redux

David Carlisle

Mar 30 at 19:59, by David Carlisle

@egreg stop putting escape characters in your comments:-)

Paulo Cereda

4:10 PM

@DavidCarlisle ooh

David Carlisle

Mar 6 at 12:20, by Paulo Cereda

We ducks are not good at keeping secrets

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle quite possible that we can keep the conversation stream going only by posting past comments

@DavidCarlisle oh no

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle I see. I should've read the documentation. :)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn github.com/cereda/arara/issues/116

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Missing $ inserted. The units weren't actually specified. :)

Paulo Cereda

4:13 PM

@AlanMunn ooh I like this approach

egreg

@AlanMunn I see no difference

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}

\newcommand{\fooA}[1]{\ensuremath{\substack{#1}}}
\makeatletter
\newcommand{\fooB}[1]{\mbox{\check@mathfonts\fontsize{\sf@size}{0}\selectfont$#1$}}
\makeatother

\begin{document}

Abcdef \fooA{aabb} abcdef

Abcdef \fooB{aabb} abcdef

\end{document}

Alan Munn

@egreg Try doing \fooB{aaa,\fooB{bbb}} (which I need without a size change).

egreg

@AlanMunn I see. Not sure why you'd want to do that, but…

Alan Munn

@egreg Because linguistics not math... :)

egreg

4:29 PM

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}

\newif\iffoo
\makeatletter
\newcommand{\foo}[1]{%
  \mbox{\iffoo\else\check@mathfonts\fontsize{\sf@size}{0}\selectfont\footrue\fi$#1$}%
}
\makeatother

\begin{document}

Abcdef \foo{aabb} abcdef

Abcdef \foo{aabb \foo{ccdd}} abcdef

\end{document}

@AlanMunn ^^^^^^^

Alan Munn

@egreg Also now I see a downside to the \shortstack approach, since the embedded one is slightly lower than the other one. So this version is better.

@egreg Although in the actual use case the argument is wrapped in \langle...\rangle so it doesn't actually matter. Is there a reason to prefer the most recent version over the \substack version otherwise?

egreg

@AlanMunn Up to you.

Alan Munn

@egreg The \substack version is certainly cleaner although it kind of abuses the semantics.

egreg

4:47 PM

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}

\newcommand{\fooA}[1]{\ensuremath{\substack{\langle#1\rangle}}}

\newif\iffoo
\makeatletter
\newcommand{\fooB}[1]{%
  \mbox{\iffoo\else\check@mathfonts\fontsize{\sf@size}{0}\selectfont\footrue\fi$\langle#1\rangle$}%
}
\makeatother

\begin{document}

Abcdef \fooA{aabb} abcdef

Abcdef \fooA{aabb \fooA{ccpp}} abcdef

Abcdef \fooB{aabb} abcdef

Abcdef \fooB{aabb \fooB{ccpp}} abcdef

\fooA{aabbp}\fooB{aabbp}

\end{document}

@AlanMunn ^^^^^ You can compare and judge

Alan Munn

@egreg \fooA wins. :)

Ulrike Fischer

@egreg @DavidCarlisle do you know why the n below the j moves up (with xelatex and lualatex, so it is not my fault ;-))

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
%\setmathfont{Cambria Math}
%\setmathfont{STIX2Math.otf}
\begin{document}
$f_n f_n^j  f_n^{\smash{j}}$

$f_n f_n^i f_n^{\smash{i}}$
\end{document}

egreg

@UlrikeFischer Nice! The obvious difference is that j has a descender.

David Carlisle

5:07 PM

@UlrikeFischer in classic TeX appendix G different font params are used for the case with sub and sup on same base, so i guess the settings derived from the Math table don't have quite the values you'd want but can't look just now.

Ulrike Fischer

@egreg yes compared to $f^j$ the j is moved up when the n is there too and seems to "pull" is with it.

@DavidCarlisle you mean I should read the docu?

@DavidCarlisle @egreg tex.stackexchange.com/questions/89404/…

David Carlisle

5:22 PM

@UlrikeFischer looks vaguely familiar

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