@DavidCarlisle Nice! Are the ducks in the background clickable?

@mickep 'fraid not, there is no JavaScript there it's just a userContent css file, with a background-image on body for the duck

@FaheemMitha The problem is the 'big picture' three column stuff: I think @DavidCarlisle and a lot of the rest of us would grumble but accept the rest of the changes (I do follow the logic there), certainly once the initial complete mess-ups are fixed

@Shog9 Thank's again for taking the time to explain the background to the design changes in detail: most appreciated

@DavidCarlisle Is it possible that first release of TeXLive 2018 had an old version of colortbl which broke most of my tabulars? :-)

@campa no but it has a new version of array. I am on mobile so can't test anything now but post an example somewhere

@DavidCarlisle Never mind. I had our SysAdmin make an update of my work computer (opensuse) shortly after TeXLive 2018 went online. I have array [2018/04/07 v2.4g] and colortbl [2012/02/13 v1.0a], and vertical spaces in tables with \\[lenght] don't work any more. On my laptop everything is up-to-date and everything works.

@JosephWright Meaning the squished text. I agree, the text is the point, and shouldn't be squished.

@campa Maybe chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/46198018#46198018 can help?

@samcarter Yep, that might be related.

@samcarter So I'll have to beg the SysAdmin for a new update...

@campa Or as a workaround download colortbl.sty and array.sty from ctan and install in your texmf tree

yihui.name/en/2017/12/rr-marmot

@samcarter @marmot ^^^

Seems @Mico is back. Yeah!

@marmot @samcarter @CarLaTeX ^^^^

@samcarter someone on the main site has problems with dyck pathes ;-).

@UlrikeFischer Funny comic - thanks for making me smile :)

@UlrikeFischer Solution to the problem: use duck paths instead

@samcarter I considered it but didn't want to shock a new user ;-).

Interesting conundrum for those who know how \text works: tex.stackexchange.com/q/446413/3929

@UlrikeFischer :)

In this question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/263806/…

Is there a way to set the distance between the two figures?

@L.K. Replace \hfill by \hspace*{2cm} or whatever distance you like

Thanks @samcarter.

@samcarter It is changing the alignment. I mean figure 1 takes figure 2 place

And also not good looking :(

It worked @samcarter , My ignorance, I was also adding something else

@JosephWright how about "don't present the new user's post in a ridiculously squashed text column, overshadowed by two massive sidebars with useless information"

@DavidCarlisle :)

@Shog9 ^

You forgot to mention top/bottom banners...

@Shog9 actually the only thing that is completely broken is the three column layout, people may moan a bit about the top and bottom or the loss of customised vote buttons etc, but they don't stop the site being used, but the sidebars being wider than the main text makes the site unusable without using user CSS to restyle it.

@DavidCarlisle Or just turn off the left bar ...

@DavidCarlisle Totally agree: in the end, the change of 'minor' style things is something the 'regulars' get used to, and the passing user never picks up on

@JosephWright that saves a bit of space but not that much, and you can still end up with a right sidebar almost as wide as the main text

@DavidCarlisle I guess: for me, it's usable with the left bar off

@JosephWright the right bar should have been dropped before the main text got that narrow ^^^ and anyway the vast majority of users are going to have the left sidebar and the text even narrower

@JosephWright fine by me:-)

@DavidCarlisle Like you, I'd be happy to see some movement on the 'big picture' issue even if the other stuff says exactly as-is

@DavidCarlisle Hi, are there special procedures for reporting bugs in the luatexbase parts of LaTeX2e?

@MarcelKrüger No, github as usual or as @JosephWright and I are both here you could mention it here (but github is better for logging issues if they can't be fixed straight away)

@MarcelKrüger but now you need to tell, what's wrong:-)

@DavidCarlisle It should be possible to fix streight away: The append_to_vlist_filter callback is classified as a list callback, but it probably should be a exclusive callback.

@DavidCarlisle Right now the second return value is dropped because of this, so the callback gets almost useless

Not sure if this is a cultural thing, but a hand like this looks like a stop sign to me. Like "do not enter"

@samcarter So we only should be nice to the new ones?

@MarcelKrüger no one needs to be nice to @egreg.

@MarcelKrüger If they put a banner only at those post, this must be the message...

@DavidCarlisle Everybody answering @egregs questions is very nice!

@MarcelKrüger @JosephWright ^^^ (I'm on holiday:-)

@DavidCarlisle Cool: I'll take a look in a second

@JosephWright practising my German

@DavidCarlisle Viel Spaß!

@samcarter I'll try

@samcarter Everybody answering @DavidCarlisle's question is obviously very rude.

@egreg especially you !

@DavidCarlisle practising means using, not only listening to :)

@samcarter don't you see the waving-wiggle?

@egreg everyone else in this hotel seems to speak Italian, it's a good job I'm such a linguist

@Skillmon zwei Bier bitte

@DavidCarlisle eine gute Idee! Komm mich besuchen und ich gebe dir eins aus!

@Skillmon Ich bin auf halber Höhe eines Berges ohne Auto

@DavidCarlisle Welcher Berg?

@Skillmon secret location:-) (Austria)

@DavidCarlisle That's too far, unfortunately.

@DavidCarlisle Are there any marmots around?

@samcarter not so far, although it's been warm today, they are probably sitting in dark holes

@Skillmon Could also be dirt on the screen :)

@DavidCarlisle And in the holes they are probably answering [tikz] questions :)

@samcarter higher rep than @egreg this month I see. @egreg won't be pleased.

@DavidCarlisle :) egreg can catch up during hibernation

@DavidCarlisle These TikZ question get way too much reputation... @marmot 's answers are great, though.

@Skillmon Zumindest geht es bei Murmeltieren nicht nur um Prozentzeichen

@Skillmon A statistic showing the average number of votes per answer depending on the tags would really be interesting. My guess would be that for bibtex questions it would be especially low.

@DavidCarlisle The month is long yet.

@DavidCarlisle ?

Does anybody else get only a [object Object] when he tries to edit a comment instead of the former comment contents?

@Skillmon Yes

@DavidCarlisle tex.stackexchange.com/questions/446481/… are you sure you can be sure that it'll only be used in the right places by future visitors?

@samcarter -- it may be cultural, but i agree.

@Skillmon I may add some "don't do this" wording to the whole answer. But there is no point to adding the test to an inline $$ use as you always know whether than case is in vmode, and I'm not going to suggest defining a new enviornment:-)

@Skillmon me too

@samcarter data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/888155/…

@Skillmon I added some words.

@MarcelKrüger Oh, interesting! Thanks a lot!

According to this BibTeX has an average answer score of 5, tikz-pgf of 6.1. I would have axpected a bigger difference...

@barbarabeeton It made think of such a sign: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stop_hand.svg

@MarcelKrüger Indeed! Its fascinating how much perception and reality differs :)

@DavidCarlisle all the comments below the original question disappeared.

@Skillmon I suspect the hand of a mod :-)

@DavidCarlisle You'd be right

@JosephWright thanks i'd wondered about asking for that action.

Why we would not say to that user to come here? He tried for hours and he seems very unstable :S

@MarcelKrüger Things table related are surprisingly bad. tabularx only has 3.124691!

@samcarter users are so ungrateful:-)

@samcarter tikz-pgf only has 6.137612

@DavidCarlisle You should get new users, the ducks have 16.3125 :)

@samcarter he can be thankful. All my (3) packages don't even show up in the query.

@Skillmon Isn't this a good sign? No bugs to complain about?

I did not yet know we have a {triskaidekaphobia} tag!

@DavidCarlisle +1 only for picture mode ducks?

@samcarter that would be a reasonable rule

@DavidCarlisle This would also improve the average votes for picture mode of 3

@barbarabeeton so do I @samcarter to me, a "!" would work better

@boycott.se-yo' -- yes, a nice fat exclamation point sounds just the thing.

@Skillmon -- that seems to ignore the possibility of positive vs. negative zero.

@barbarabeeton you're right. My bad.

@MarcelKrüger I think one need also the number of answers used for the average.

@UlrikeFischer I added another column for them

@MarcelKrüger Do you know why e.g. chess is not in the list?

@UlrikeFischer There is no search button, so finding stuff is hard. You can download the CSV and view it in an editor of your choice instead: Line 711: "chess", score 4.33, 100 answers.

@MarcelKrüger Ah, my browser search worked for a few example, but probably only because they were visible.

Happy National Honey Bee Day!

@samcarter Tigerente!

@Skillmon :)

@Skillmon but I didn't ask a TikZ question ;-)

@samcarter Soo nice ... ;-)