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1:32 AM
@DavidCarlisle @barbarabeeton @marmot and why not @CarLaTeX: here we began to encourage neck pains in the street
 
2:08 AM
in short, prepare for another Vietnam war...
 
 
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3:37 AM
@manooooh Good idea :)
 
4:11 AM
@CarLaTeX yeah
 
 
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6:29 AM
Morning all
Everyone should look at the TUGboat survey (see starred message)
 
 
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yo'
12:18 PM
@user1732 @CarLaTeX ^^ ouch...
 
12:52 PM
@yo' It was a reply to a previous message, click on the arrow
 
yo'
1:09 PM
@CarLaTeX I know...
 
Everyone done the survey?
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@JosephWright Yes
 
@CarLaTeX :)
 
@JosephWright after the usual round of errors due to typos (stengine) and wrong settings (pdfext={""}, don't ask me why this was in the build.lua) pdf testing seems to work fine ...
 
@UlrikeFischer Cool
@UlrikeFischer Great
@UlrikeFischer There's an update for today: I'm still working on PDF normalisation (or rather getting the binary data out). Release some time this afternoon :)
 
1:20 PM
@JosephWright and the tpf file looks quite useful even outside tests as you don't have to scroll over all the useless binary data ...
 
@UlrikeFischer Exactly: that's one reason for normalising that out. It also makes diff happy when there is a change.
 
 
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5:27 PM
@UlrikeFischer l3build updated on CTAN
 
@JosephWright something completly different: do you know if there is somewhere luacode for utf8 to utf16BE conversion?
 
@UlrikeFischer I don't know of a specific set up, but the conversion is well-documented so it should not be too hard: where do you need UTF16?
 
5:42 PM
@JosephWright The /Alt and /ActualText values should be encoded either in pdfdocencoding or utf16be. With pdftex I managed a more or less sensible output with \StringEncodingConvert (from stringenc) and \pdfescapehex. But stringenc doesn't work with luatex and I can't find something suitable in the luatex manual.
 
@UlrikeFischer Ah
@UlrikeFischer Must be something in ConTeXt, then
@UlrikeFischer We need some of Bruno's string-conversion stuff in expl3 core, then, longer term
 
@JosephWright context has something in l-unicode.lua. But it is in bits and pieces and lots of renames (local X= y) and so quite some work to get everything together.
 
@UlrikeFischer Ah
@UlrikeFischer We must have the algorithm in the string conversion code for pdfTeX
 
6:00 PM
@JosephWright when you mentioned Bruno I remembered l3str-convert. But it doesn't work ;-(. ` \str_set_convert:Nnnn \l_tmpa_tl {öäü} {utf8} {utf16be}` gives (with luatex) the error Invalid UTF-8 string: missing continuation byte (x3).
@JosephWright Rereading the docu, the correct syntax is \str_set_convert:Nnnn \l_tmpa_tl {öäü} {} {utf16be} and this seems to give something more sensible. Now I have to check how to get the hex from it.
@JosephWright ` \str_set_convert:Nnnn \l_tmpa_tl {öäü} {} {utf16be/hex}` looks perfect ;-). Bruno is so good ;-)
 
 
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7:29 PM
@PauloCereda a balanced menu:
 
@DavidCarlisle A DUCK!
@DavidCarlisle Where's that?
 
@JosephWright countryfile live at Blenheim
 
@DavidCarlisle Oooh
@DavidCarlisle Sounds fun
@UlrikeFischer I've updated l3build on CTAN, and probably will switch to some macro stuff for a few days unless anything specific comes up with PDF testing
 
@JosephWright I just went today, M+J are there all four days (young Farmers helping out on some of the stands)
 
@DavidCarlisle Goodness
@DavidCarlisle Sounds like a fun day out
 
7:32 PM
@JosephWright warm:-)
 
yo'
7:54 PM
@JosephWright one for replacing the TUG videos one in the featured list? tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7769/…
 
@yo' Done
 
yo'
@JosephWright I see, thanks :)
 
@DavidCarlisle We haf vays and meanz to make you quack! ^^^^
 
 
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9:45 PM
@UlrikeFischer Why ifnt fe duck 3D?
 
@marmot it's keeping a low profile.
 
@UlrikeFischer But on a TeX site, shouldn't it hide behind some integrals, say? I'm not sure the camouflage you propose works on this site. ;-)
 
10:31 PM
@marmot I love your profile pic. Its cool you've got it tikzified. I'd love to have a tikzified profile pic too
 
@crypto Then you need to ask @samcarter ;-)
 
Can I drop a request here or must I wait until he appears online?
 
@crypto I was just going on her nerves long enough this was probably the easier way out. But I don't thin this will work again. ;-)
 
@marmot That's not good news :(. I was just figuring out what to request
 
@crypto But you can always ask a question on the main site... ;-)
 
10:36 PM
Isn't that strictly meant for questions? I though personal requests must be made over here while the site is strictly dedicated for academic purpose
 
11:30 PM
@crypto I am not an expert on this but nobody grilled me for this question. Actually, most of my most upvoted questions have the tag fun.
 

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