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David Carlisle

00:22

@egreg but try with pdftex/xetex/luatex the results are not even close

@egreg for example yours: \primitive=[unknown command code! (41, 1)].

egreg

00:37

@DavidCarlisle \toks0={\par}\expandafter\show\primitive\the\toks0

Since \primitive is followed by an expandable token (in its primitive meaning), it expands it.

@DavidCarlisle Consequence: you can't use \(pdf)primitive to show the meaning of a primitive, which is pointless anyway.

David Carlisle

@egreg actually that's one that all three engines give same result

@egreg I think xetex just doesn't work:

\scrollmode

\ifx\primitive\undefined
\let\primitive\pdfprimitive
\fi


\let\zzz\hbox

\expandafter\show\primitive\zzz

\end

 \par=\par.

?

Joseph Wright

07:08

@DavidCarlisle Eeek

Joseph Wright

10:23

Anyone got experience with free/low cost SSL certs?

egreg

10:47

Bob T. has fixed the missing %, but now the code has \EDEF\BFDEF@ULT{\BFDEFAULT} which is slightly dubious, isn't it?

wilx

@JosephWright None. What about Let's Encrypt - Free SSL/TLS Certificates?

Paulo Cereda

11:09

@JosephWright No. :(

CarLaTeX

Milan has been downvoted :)

Joseph Wright

@wilx Yes, I'm aware of that but it seems it has to be supported by your host

egreg

@CarLaTeX I'm still upvoted. ;-)

Happy 100th birthday, Kirk Douglas!

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Paulo Cereda

:)

egreg

11:25

@PauloCereda Have you ever tasted 1℃?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg No, only 4C. :)

Maeher

There's been ice on the road here all week... today it's finally above freezing again

egreg

@PauloCereda So never tried -12℃ on a moped?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg brrrrrrr

CarLaTeX

11:42

@egreg You have lake Garda that helps you! :)

@PauloCereda I'd like to move to Brazil for the winter!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX Beware of hot weather. :)

CarLaTeX

12:07

@PauloCereda 24°C is a very nice temperature!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX It is, but it's a deceiving parameter! :)

When I was in Barcelona, I faced a cold 28C!

:)

CarLaTeX

12:42

@PauloCereda :-o

percusse

14:51

@JosephWright learngitbranching.js.org

nice sandbox practice :)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright I thought remembered you having a blog with some l3build examples? Or was it a tugboat talk, or...:

Thanks for the point. I read the documentation but I can not figure out how to use it to compare two log files. Can you provide a small example to start with? — TeXtnik 4 hours ago

Joseph Wright

@percusse git checkout master ;-)

@percusse Perhaps with git checkout stable for something complex (siunitx has two branches)

@DavidCarlisle I wrote something for TUGboat

percusse

@JosephWright git rebaseand squashing are my new nemesisesiseiss. nemesia?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright looking if I can extract tuenc.def from utf8ienc.dtx

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle tug.org/TUGboat/tb35-3/tb111mitt-l3build.pdf?

David Carlisle

14:54

@JosephWright you could answer:-) (I'm on holiday)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Will do later on (several urgent tasks this afternoon)

percusse

I truly hate when this happens

David Carlisle

@JosephWright I'm rather the opposite, visiting parents:-)

Joseph Wright

@percusse rebase is OK for local typos, but I think one could overdo it

percusse

@JosephWright especially when 10 more people are pouring commits :)

Joseph Wright

14:57

@percusse Indeed

@percusse Don't you have a 'no rebasing once pushed' policy?

percusse

@JosephWright Scipy people only force it if there are too many commits that will clutter the merge.

Usually they take the last commit

Joseph Wright

@percusse This I take your word for: I'm used to an SVN-like approach with Git

percusse

@JosephWright I'm still learning anyways. It's really confusing at times. Maybe they do some other tricks as maintainers

Joseph Wright

@percusse 'Everything is really RCS'?

percusse

@JosephWright I think true programmers are not best people to design stuff :P

Paulo Cereda

15:09

@percusse wow, scipy?! I owe you a beer, sir!

percusse

@PauloCereda :) I've been committing for some time now. It's addictive

Paulo Cereda

@percusse You are now part of the arara documentation team.

percusse

@PauloCereda Oh no. :)

Sebastiano

17:54

hi Paulo. How are you? Regards from Sicily.

Regard to all users into chat.

Can you have others support for a request?

Can I have some changes of the my question on link tex.stackexchange.com/questions/343117/…?

regards

hi Torbjon. Can you help me too for my question?

hi to all.

David Carlisle

@Sebastiano to be honest the question should be closed as it seems to be an exact duplicate of the previous one. Unless you can edit it to ask a different question

Sebastiano

Good evening. I would to have any changes. Is true that my question is similar, but I have put my source.

Torbjørn T.

@Sebastiano If your question is "how do I use a specific font for a specific part of my document" (in this case the numbers), the general answer would be to see tex.stackexchange.com/questions/25249 I think. If your question is to make the numbers in the list larger, then try adding e.g. \large before \bfseries in the definition of benumerate.

Sebastiano

If you can make changes, using your knowledge there are immensely grateful.

This is for my students.

Torbjørn T.

18:11

@Sebastiano I honestly don't understand exactly what you want, which makes it hard to even attempt answering.

Sebastiano

I repeated the same question because I could not change my old request. I immensely apologize to you for the many mistakes I make all kinds. Sorry with all my heart.

I wish I could change the font size of the numbers with a character that is very similar to that of the image - font Agenda Use Agenda for paragraphs fonts, and font optima (and that's ok) and to delete, or add something that how to render the page of a book of exercises only.

I'm not as fast as you to make changes with LaTeX. You know immediately strategies, shortcuts faster than me. I will also put a week to solve simple lines of my source.

Now I'm going off to do an errand for my mom. I send you my most sincere greetings from Sicily.

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Sean Allred

18:53

24 hours ago, by Sean Allred

@percusse I set a beer bounty on a TikZ deck of french playing cards with a few customizations that I can set post-hoc

Alright, I've got the fronts done (with all face cards)!

Probably easier: does anyone want to fancy a crack at a back design?

CarLaTeX

19:07

@egreg I thought that Padua was closer to Verona, after looking at the map more carefully, I don't think the lake helps you very much :$

Paulo Cereda

19:48

\documentclass{standalone}

\usepackage{tikz}

\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[y=0.80pt, x=0.80pt, yscale=-1.000000, xscale=1.000000, inner sep=0pt, outer sep=0pt]
\begin{scope}[shift={(3.14113,-47.13515)}]
  \begin{scope}[cm={{0.03528,0.0,0.0,-0.03528,(-3.14113,258.80183)}}]
      \path[fill=black,nonzero rule] (4918.9600,4249.3400) .. controls
        (4992.7300,4196.6400) and (5017.6600,4116.4800) .. (5043.1200,4035.9000) ..
        controls (5051.4900,4048.5700) and (5060.3800,4061.3600) ..

@SeanAllred ^^ :)

Sebastiano

20:07

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii paulo. haw are you?

sorry: how

hiiiiiiii to all into the chat

This site is fantastic. All the users are excellent.

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda Looks nice :) did you make that?

egreg

20:27

@CarLaTeX Not really: it's more than 100km to the lake from here.

Sean Allred

Does anyone know of a good EPC editor? I really just need to make a color swap.

CarLaTeX

20:51

@egreg I didn't think it was so far away :o Milan-lake Garda is about 140 km...

Sean Allred

*EPS :) And nevermind; I rigged something together.

egreg

@CarLaTeX About an hour with my bike to get to Peschiera. For the better places it takes longer because of heavy traffic in the summer. I'd say that Peschiera to Riva along the east coast takes slightly less than a couple of hours.

dbliss

21:12

hey

anyone around?

i'm trying to debug an installation

would much appreciate some help

(i'm going to keep debugging on my own, but will check back every few minutes to see whether anyone responds)

David Carlisle

@dbliss possibly:-)

egreg

@dbliss What's the issue?

David Carlisle

@SeanAllred emacs of course

CarLaTeX

@egreg I know Basso Garda very well. I go to Sirmione every year for a couple of weeks. There are a lot of wonderful places my favourite are Malcesine and Punta San Vigilio. Unfortunately I haven't got a bike I go to the lake by car and go around by car or by ferry-boat.

egreg

@CarLaTeX Here it is:

dbliss

21:23

@DavidCarlisle i'm trying to follow the instructions under section 3 here: chess.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptexternal/wiki/Main/LaTeX

CarLaTeX

@egreg Beautiful! I think it is the best means of transport for the lake tour!

dbliss

@egreg one instruction i'm having trouble with is "I edited /usr/texbin/mktexpk and inserted --mapfile and the path to the fgy.map file. "

i don't have a file /usr/texbin/mktexpk

is there another location where this file could be, by default?

on a linux system (ubuntu)

Sean Allred

@DavidCarlisle That was my first thought, but the seller obfuscated it

egreg

@dbliss I don't think this is a sensible instruction.

Sean Allred

It's 5MB of garbage; emacs nearly threw up on me

David Carlisle

21:28

@dbliss instructions look odd to be honest you shouldn't normally be messing with those files by hand and of course all references to miktex are spurious if you are on linux

dbliss

@DavidCarlisle i see. any general advice for getting this package installed?

it looks like there is a more standard document class called ucbletter that achieves what i want.

David Carlisle

@dbliss well fist thing I'd try is just type all teh files into the current directory and run latex on a test file, that might be all you need, it depends (I didn't look what was in the tar file. do you need the berkley font in the tar file or just the latex class in the zip?

dbliss

everything depends on a file universityos.sty that i can't find anywhere after extracting the .tar.gz on that webpage

ok, i got something that works.

that was annoying.

thanks for dissuading me from going through with that original plan to mess with my whole latex setup.

David Carlisle

21:52

@dbliss not following instructions copied from the internet is generally the best advice:-)

egreg

22:18

@CarLaTeX I've done several times both sides of the lake. You get one of the best sights coming down from Rovereto to Torbole.

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