Can I have a sanity check? So, right now I use a chunk of python that takes a CSV, and generates a very complex latex file out of it, which is then \include'd into a more normal latex document. I would like to take the python out of it, and use lualatex to end up with something other people can use through ShareLaTeX or Overleaf. Is this a sane plan?
I haven't use datatool, but I can say for sure it is out of scope of pgfplots it is not a table/plot. Infact let me see if I have one one line and I can show you
@Oxinabox well it depends of course what the python is, most core python could be coded up in lua easily enough but if you are using a thousand lines of scipy logic or something, doing the same in lua might be tricky.
@JosephWright because it turns out it emulates rather than includes color option handling so got undefined command when it loaded the new def
@JosephWright I mailed Uwe Kern last night and suggested xcolor adds the option at some point but it seemed polite to update {dvips,luatex,pdftex}.def with an ifundefined test
So this is a bit out of date, I think I am generating nicer TeX now, maybe. Sorry the CSV doesn't line up with the output, but I hope this gets point across. Noted that after an about 6 pages, it changes from the timetable, to set of descriptions. CSV: https://github.com/oxinabox/Livecon-Printer/blob/master/quick_con_program_book/con_data/sc2016Program5.csv LaTeX: https://github.com/oxinabox/Livecon-Printer/blob/master/quick_con_program_book/example_output/example_pretty/sc2015_d02.tex PDF:https://github.com/oxinabox/Livecon-Printer/blob/master/quick_con_program_book/example_output/example_…
@Manuel f-type expansion stops at the first non-expandable token and doesn't continue further, whereas x-type will expand all of the argument (simply 'moving on' past non-expandable tokens)
@Manuel To avoid 'output' stopping expansion, you can shuffle things about. For example, if you look at how \tl_lower_case:n works, it keeps moving the 'output' letters after an 'end' marker such that f-type expansion will continue
@Manuel Note that LuaTeX offers \expanded, which is expandable and does x-type expansion. One could imagine a LuaTeX-only approach based on expl3 where x-type expansion would be expandable: there would then be very little need for f-type
@JosephWright Okey, so it's always “doable” but it is just not important? I don't think it's too much work to add one or two auxiliar macros, by the way :)
@Manuel x expansion (traditionally) is done using \edef which makes the construct not expandable, doing it expandably in lua is easy doing it expandably in classical tex is probably possible but possibly not worth it (much more complicated much slower and not clearly more useful in most cases)
@Manuel ConTeXt's had a few rearrangements in this area as they had names for things that ended up as primitives (see e.g.\unexpanded, which in the ConTeXt sources is the \protected primititve)
@Manuel The point of f-type expansion is it lets us do 'functional like' work but stay expandable
@Manuel Working via Lua is tricky as everything is detokenized and then passed back with (currently) one catcodetable active. That's fine if you know all of the material starts off with the same catcodes but rapidly becomes tricky (I've been working on this lately)
Okey, so: f expansion is always doable, but too much hassle for probably unnecessary benefit; and LuaTeX permits expandable x expansion and ConTeXt has already implemented it. Good to know. I wish I could learn ConTeXt.
Another thing that has passed my mind (completely unrelated) is an expandable check to see if the next char is an opening brace (or just any token with that catcode). Wouldn't that make the life much more easier and flexible?
@JosephWright I don't know, it's just that many times I've imagined that things would go smoother. Some primitive boolean \ifbracenext and then \def\foo{\futurecheckbrace\baz} \def\baz{\ifbracenext blah \else blih \fi}. Or something like that.
@JosephWright It's true that it's just to have more flexibility in the input approach, like \foo{asdf} and \foo\asdf meaning different things expandably. True, that's not LaTeX behaviour :)
@JosephWright But I would like to be flexible as I'm with LaTeX (or even TeX). But there are no example documents to look at the sources (this is what mostly interests me) and there's no documentation.
@Manuel Again, LuaTeX allows braces here and with Lua we can write an expandable version of \IfFileExists, so you can have the LaTeX behaviour but keep \input expandable
@Manuel There are some resources but most help is on their mailing list, certainly
@Oxinabox yes but also too much to take in in one go (at work, doing something else:-) probably could do it more easily in luatex as you coul djust typeset each of teh boxes once into some node list then use lua to directly position those nodes without having to write out a tex syntax for the positioning and re-typeset
log file just posted on main site: (C:\Users\Enrico\AppData\Roaming\MiKTeX\2.9\tex\latex\etoolbox\etoolbox.sty I always knew @egreg was a miktex user really.
anyway I know nothing about biblatex, the error is (it turns out) `! Use of \blx@bbl@verbadd@i doesn't match its definition. l.482 \verb` does that mean the user has `\verb` in the bibliography?
@DavidCarlisle you are definitely right. Just edited my question with the new errors and the url I am using — Enrico Ribelli25 mins ago
Currently having problems with compiling my Master's thesis after downloading the newest version of TeXStudio and MiKTeX. The error message is as follows:
Use of \blx@bbl@verbadd@i doesn't match its definition. \verb
The only other place I found a similar question regarding this error message ...
Recently I got an unexpectedly high number of votes for something that egreg said not to do (and many agreed with egreg's comment): tex.stackexchange.com/questions/315147/…. There seems to be a phenomenon, kind of like looking at accident scenes, whereby the more grotesque the result, the more interest it spurs. So I started checking upvote totals for answers where people said "Don't do this". Some interesting results...
@egreg. That phenomenon I understand. It is the "don't do this" answers that get high votes that I am trying to decipher: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/135097/…
@egreg. That is true. Architecture has a comparable phenomenon. Where is that by the way? Here is one I am familiar with: philly.curbed.com/2012/5/7/10373524/…
If Neuschwanstein is kitsch (and I have been there), it is only thanks to Disney. The Pena Palace, however, looks like a rainbow version of it, especially here traveltoeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/…
@yo' no, only in Word. I use LaTeX so I can write efficiently (and procrastinate making plots) and have nicely formated documents that I can revision control
@JosephWright I just started using siunitx. I really like it. I don't know why I put it off so long.
@JosephWright Welcome to my world: I put figures, people complain about lack of theory. I put theory, people complain about lack of figures. I add figures, Word mess with positioning. I add mathematics, Word does not recognize the symbols. Oh joy.
Unless... I add theory inside figures! wooooooooooooo
@StrongBad well, I don't really need version control I think for documents. (It's nice for projects though). The point is, Dropbox is taking care of backups, so this part of VC is covered.
btw, I got one of this Qi mobile charging solutions, and it's supercool :)
\documentclass{article}
%\usepackage{luatex85} % Makes no difference
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Minion Pro}
\begin{document}
\textbf{This is some text} % produces italic bold with luatex
\end{document}
@ArTourter How do I generate that list again? Just delete the file? (I moved the condensed bold out of /Library/Fonts, but that didn't change things, presumably because of the cached names.
@ArTourter Ok, so removing the names database and removing the condensed bold version of the font fixes the problem. So do you not have that font in your fonts folder?
@egreg anyway it's not a bug it's a changed requirement on a package loading a driver.def file that it sets up the pagesize option. I updated the def files last night so that a package not doing that is silently accepted rather than an error, but that's an an enhanced feature not (or course) a bug fix.
@ArTourter I basically gave up on Adobe after it became more and more impossible to preserve backwards compatibility and I can't justify the cost of upgrading every year or so. I mainly used it for InDesign (which I still miss and there's no open source alternative that is any good.)
@ArTourter And that's the 'suck you in' promotional pricing, after one year, "At the end of your offer term, your subscription will be automatically billed at the standard subscription rate, currently at US$359.88"
In unimath-symbols.pdf, the open colon ⦂ (U+02982), called the Z notation type colon, is declared as \mathbin. As far as I know, you use this type colon as demonstrated in the following example. The lines
x ⦂ int
f ⦂ int → int
declare a nullary symbol x of integer type (or integer sort, depend...
@JosephWright i wasn't planning to actually run it just use it as a link to that file, which actually lists it as (F)ence which seems worse than mathbin or mathrel
@JosephWright thanks, just trying to work out from this what it is supposed to be but it's not really that specific open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/open/n3187.pdf just making it do what : does .. oh got called away and I see you said the same;-)
@DavidCarlisle -- since i'm the one sort of responsible for getting this into unicode, i went back and looked at the documentation i received from the z folks. the class of this symbol simply isn't specified anywhere i could see. so for a definitive answer, that's who should be asked. i can try to go back to the person who provided the z symbols if that would be helpful.
@DavidCarlisle -- lacking anything definitive in the documentation i was given, i'm likely the one responsible for assigning it the same class as the \colon (which appears to be misguided).
@DavidCarlisle -- you're right. and i've just checked the table again. \colon is identified as a relation; the z \typecolon is a fence. clearly wrong. i'll make a note to fix the table.
@barbarabeeton just to make things clear: I like the logo, I understand the ideas behind it and I think the outcome is pretty fine. But the font is just terrible.
@yo' -- depends on what it's supposed to represent. the little wings remind me of the wings on the helmet on the "mercury" figure that i think was used at one time by a telegraph company. (i.e., "dated".) i think i recognize the essence of the boy scout emblem in the graphical part of the logo.
@Canageek I'm not part of the team, but honestly I don't think the issue really is funding. All of the team have real jobs, and so having funding won't really give them any more time than they already (don't) have to spend on the work. And TeX is not exactly the kind of language that you can outsource to some code monkeys somewhere.
@AlanMunn That makes sense. I've heard that getting funding from it often helps convince significant others it is a worthwhile use of time from people in other projects, but don't know if that would help.
@Canageek I have a personal testimony on how challenging a project can be. I am planning version 4.0 of arara for at least two years now, and I am not able to find proper time to release it in the wild.
@AlanMunn right. And actually, I think many of the people would have moral dilemma whether to make it a real job, even if they were willing to. Also, it's not something permanent, that's for sure.
@yo' The "outsourcing" problem is the real one, I think. For example, for many other projects I imagine that some sort of short term funding to CS students in the summer might be workable. But for TeX this is just not possible. And TeX is not a language that you just pick up like the next scripting language to appear.
Here is nice comparison between speed of mathJax and KaTex for math rendering on web page. KaTex is really getting along very well, and so much faster now than mathjax. I might give a try soon. intmath.com/cg5/katex-mathjax-comparison.php
Currently having problems with compiling my Master's thesis after downloading the newest version of TeXStudio and MiKTeX. The error message is as follows:
Use of \blx@bbl@verbadd@i doesn't match its definition. \verb
The only other place I found a similar question regarding this error message ...
In unimath-symbols.pdf, the open colon ⦂ (U+02982), called the Z notation type colon, is declared as \mathbin. As far as I know, you use this type colon as demonstrated in the following example. The lines
x ⦂ int
f ⦂ int → int
declare a nullary symbol x of integer type (or integer sort, depend...
