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12:00 AM
@PauloCereda Doesn't equation not force display style?
 
@MartinScharrer I really don't know. :(
 
@PauloCereda Well \displaystyle actually does make it bigger.
I'm actually not using this much math, so this is a much less frequent TeX topic for me.
 
@MartinScharrer Me neither. I usually stick with inline math. :)
 
@PauloCereda Maybe it is the \frac which switches the syle
 
@MartinScharrer I think \frac turns both its arguments back to \textstyle.
 
12:06 AM
@Werner: Thanks.
 
@MartinScharrer \frac is defined as > \frac =\long macro: #1#2->{\begingroup #1\endgroup \@@over #2}. Not sure whether that helps...
 
@Werner Not really, but thanks anyway
BTW, that formula is the probability to loose a certain round of Schafkopf, when you have l running trumps and w further trumps. Then one other player needs the l+1 highest trump and additional l trumps to take at least one trick.
 
@PauloCereda HaHa
Nice one
 
@MartinScharrer It will be a success. :)
 
12:12 AM
@PauloCereda A monster of a success!
 
@Werner Indeed! We could even create a similar sumzilla package. :)
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@PauloCereda :-D
 
You are all thinking too small. What you need is a Operatorzilla package that will make any operator gigantic. Otherwise you will just have to rewrite it later. I recommend the interface \usepackage[symbol list]{operatorzilla} and that it then makes every instance of those symbols gigantic. ^^
 
@MartinScharrer, @Werner: \sum reminded me of this thread:
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Q: Weird E letter? (sigma)

tina nyaa Possible Duplicate: What does the math notation $\sum$ mean? My school's prescribed book uses the weird letter E character without explaining what it is in the first chapter when it talks about the binomial equation. I can't find it on Google either because I don't know what it means o...

 
Alternatively, it defines the command \bfo{operator} for \bigfrackingoperator
 
12:16 AM
@Canageek LOL!
Bed time. :) Good night friends! :)
 
@PauloCereda me too, gn8
 
It could be incorporated into 'I hate typesetting package' So far my idea for it include: Headings in Times New Roman, body text alternates between Comic Sans and ariel each paragraph, everything ragged left, titles at 18 pt, body text at 6 pt. ^^
 
@MartinScharrer As @Werner said, \frac issued in \displaystyle prints its arguments in \textstyle; if you really want a big \sum, then use \frac{\displaystyle\sum...}{...}.
I would use \tbinom, but that depends on many factors.
 
12:41 AM
@egreg Looking into \frac, \@@over, \over and \primfrac, there's no mention of typesetting either argument in \textstyle. Where would you find that detail?
 
@Werner The TeXbook, of course. :)
 
@egreg I've got to read that beast front-to-back...
 
If the style is D, then the numerator is in style T and the denominator in style T' (the cramped variety of text style). And so on: the style decreases.
Good night!
 
@egreg Thanks for the help. Until next time.
 
 
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8:26 AM
Just have to share this with someone. Posted on the arXiv today: arxiv.org/abs/1201.0946 Mathematicians are weird.
Oh bother, that didn't show the image. I'll try again.
user image
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8:47 AM
(That's a community promotion ad for the maths site, by the way)
I think I've finally found a query on the data explorer where TeX-SX is head and shoulders above the rest: posts using imgur. I haven't managed to run it on SO itself (timed out), but we got nearly 20% and every other site that I tried has less than 5%, including Photography! Needless to say, we beat gaming yet again.
 
If I may interject: do you know if there's a question (or questions) on the site about best practices for managing BibTeX references among multiple authors of a paper?
I seem to remember seeing something like that but I just looked briefly and didn't find it.
 
9:28 AM
5
Q: Handling bibliographies with many coauthors

Mark MeckesLast year I was involved in writing a large group proposal with LaTeX. This involved various sections written and rewritten by disparate subgroups, with all the merging and editing headaches you'd expect and more. In particular, handling the bibliography was a nightmare. Everyone handled refer...

@DavidZaslavsky Is that one relevant?
 
 
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10:58 AM
@JosephWright or another moderator: Is the OP's "answer" to his own question deemed acceptable here?
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Q: How to prevent a page break between section title and colored rule?

nicolas royI use \usepackage[explicit]{titlesec} to customize the design of my sections, subsections... In particular, i have : \titleformat{\section}% {\large\sffamily\bfseries}% {My Section \arabic{section} }% {0.5em}% {#1}% \\ \hspace*{-1.5cm} [{\color{blue}\titlerule[2.5pt]}] where the {\color{blue}\...

 
@lockstep That meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/117973/… is a good suggestion. It got me thinking of how to find other TeX.SXers posts on MSO: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2138/…
 
@NN Thanks -- let's see if it turns out to be a duplicate.
@JosephWright I added a comment to the OP's "answer", suggesting "that [the OP] unaccept[s] and delete[s] [his/her] 'answer' again, and perhaps leave[s] this question without any accepted answer".
 
11:29 AM
@AndrewStacey yep, that will be helpful, thanks.
 
11:56 AM
@lockstep Looks okay to me
 
12:35 PM
Here is a suggestion to make it easier for us to track what our community is up to at Meta Stack Overflow:
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Q: Find posts on MSO by members of a certain community

N.N.The communities of different Stack Exchange sites may differ in what they care for and how they deal with things and such discussions are what each site's meta site is for. However, some questions are relevant for the whole Stack Exchange network and that is what Meta Stack Overflow (MSO) is for....

 
One more vote needed to close:
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Q: Floating figures with 'b' ends up below the footnote

gablinWhenever a page contains a figure which is set to be placed at the bottom of the page, and the page also contains a footnote, the figure ends up below the footnote. I don't like this appearance; it looks odd and gives a feel that the figure belongs to the footnote instead of the main text. How d...

 
@lockstep Done
 
@JosephWright Darn, beat me to it.
 
@NN I added a (amateurish) picture to my SO feature request:
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Q: Simple highlighting of unanswered questions (no upvoted or accepted answer) at the front page

lockstepAt the moment, questions at the front page can be told apart as follows: Questions with no answer (at SO: "0 answers"; red); Questions with at least one answer, but no accepted one (at SO: "[number] answer(s)"; white on green); Questions with an accepted answer (at SO: "[number] answer(s); yell...

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@lockstep Seems to be a reasonable combination of colors for the new category
 
12:47 PM
@NN At tex.sx, it would simply be displayed as a black number (but different from zero, obviously).
 
@lockstep aye
 
1:13 PM
@lockstep: I'm playing with colors. A red text over that background seems to be very difficult to read. :( Do you have any color suggestions? :)
 
1:56 PM
@PauloCereda I went for a light red in my picture. Just enough to tell it apart from white at first glance.
 
@lockstep :) BTW, I like your graphic skills. :)
 
@PauloCereda You do? I had to fill in the red color pixel by pixel!
 
@lockstep oh my! :) I already did that. It takes time. :)
@lockstep: I replaced the white color by yours:
 
@PauloCereda Many thanks! Much better -- I'll use it for the question.
 
@lockstep My pleasure. :) BTW it's a great idea, I hope SE approves it.
 
2:11 PM
@PauloCereda regarding the color issue, there is a t-shirt my friends bought me but it is inappropriate to share it here by pasting . But sums up the whole thing. If you merge the following strings www.tshirthell.com and /shirts/products/a559/a559.gif, you know what I mean :) I can't read it anyway...
 
@PauloCereda An easier one for SO to approve would be this one:
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Q: Please change the reputation recalc error message to "once every 24 hours"

lockstepYesterday in the evenings, I foolishly tried to trigger two reputation recalcs within a short time span and received the error message Reputation cannot be recalculated more than once per day. So I tried another recalc in the morning of the next day, only to receive the same error message a...

 
@percusse Oh my! That's really evil. :) I read the first three lines, but was in doubt with the fourth line. I applied some saturation and the whole text appeared.
 
@JosephWright The OP wants to delete this answer but doesn't seem to be able to.
 
@JosephWright Did you see this one?
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Q: Settings options doesn't seem to work with the achemso document class

William KennerlyI'm submitting a paper to a non-ACS journal that nonetheless follows most of the ACS formatting guidelines. So I'm trying to use the achemso documentclass and setting a few options to meet the journal's idiosyncrasies. In particular I need the citations to not be superscripted and appear in squ...

 
@lockstep They should approve both. :)
 
2:20 PM
@egreg Yes, and have just answered
@lockstep Deleted
 
@JosephWright So, why that test?
 
@egreg ?
@egreg Ah, do you mean for the super option? I assume you saw my comment.
 
@JosephWright Ah, the test is good when you load the package and not the class. OK.
 
@egreg The package is meant for general use, so there I have more freedom. Hindsight, being 20:20, tells me that I should have used some very different approaches to parts of this code.
It's another reason to get LaTeX3 done: the code part and the design part really should be independent
 
We could organize some LaTeX3 parties. :)
\begin{equation}
\tag{\color{blue}1}
 \Gamma = - \log_2 P(A)
\end{equation}
That's what I call a rebel parenthesis. :P
 
2:39 PM
@PauloCereda Well, that's not the right way to get blue tags.
 
@egreg Uh-oh, I could not find better way. I was relying on beamer to do that for me. :(
 
\def\maketag@@@#1{\hbox{\m@th\normalfont\color{blue}#1}}, with the usual \makeatletter and \makeatother.
You can set it in the preamble (global), or in a frame (local)
 
@egreg Thank you thank you thank you! You saved me again. :)
 
@PauloCereda Been there, done that. :) Not precisely coloring tags, but some tag manipulation.
 
@PauloCereda Did you try parsing equation editor input in the .ppt files by any chance?
 
2:49 PM
@egreg I was going to ask you! :) It was so quick and precise. I know it might sound "strange" to color tags, but my presentation uses a blue color in elements like "Figure 1, Table 2", and I thought beamer would color that tag too. :) I'll send you my presentation when done.
@percusse Not yet, but it's in my TODO list. :) In fact, I'm planning to map most of ppt/pptx elements I can. :)
 
@PauloCereda I feel that it's going to be something pretty awesome.
 
@percusse It's hard to tell, but I'll see what I can do. :) The real problem is that I'll probably have to guess most of the sutff. But I like a challenge. :)
 
@PauloCereda It does not do any harm, since LaTeX guesses/dictates most of the stuff for us and we like it.
 
@percusse Indeed. :) In the worst case, I'll put everything I find inside a \frame and say, "there you go! Put stuff in the correct place!" :P
 
3:09 PM
@PauloCereda I'm quite contrary to using "figure 1" and so on in presentations. The audience won't remember which is figure 1 or figure 2
 
3:33 PM
@egreg Ah that's true. :) I'll probably remove it (I was curious on how to enable them in my presentation).
 
4:31 PM
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Q: Latex - How to make a math assignment look more professional

user11775I have to write an assignment in my math class. I use latex. My problem is that I have alot of calculations and therefore my assignment "design" is messy and confusing. What can I do in order to make it look more professional?

Potential migration: opinions? Probably 'not a real question' even for us.
 
@JosephWright I think it's too vague and, even if better rephrased, it will sound as a duplicate.
 
@PauloCereda That's my take too: I think it can stay closed.
 
4:48 PM
Fun fact: I like to visually represent my data when giving a presentation. I had to draw a thousand stick figures. :D
 
5:22 PM
More LyX questions. Wow.
 
@JosephWright: I studied your Makefile on github Beginners course. What does the command .SILENT: do?
 
@MarcoDaniel If I'm not mistaken, it's a special rule to prevent echoes in the terminal.
 
@PauloCereda What does it mean? I know the command echo to type out something.
 
@MarcoDaniel Let's say when you run, e.g, make pdf, the output goes like this one:
> make pdf
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 ...
If you add a .SILENT: rule, if you run the very same command, you won't get any output.
> make pdf
>
* screen output, I mean.
 
@PauloCereda But to suppress such output the comilation uses the /dev/null output: pdflatex file.tex > /dev/null Or do I misunderstand this rule? And how can I set a code block in the chat?
 
5:35 PM
@MarcoDaniel Hm let me check, it's been a long time since I've seen .SILENT:. :P
@MarcoDaniel: Sorry for the confusion, it's not the program output, but the echo of the called command line. If you have, say, the following line pdflatex hello.tex, without that .SILENT: rule, you'll get a pdflatex hello.tex line in the terminal output.
 
@PauloCereda You mean
> make pdf
pdflatex file.tex
???
 
yes! :)
With the .SILENT: rule, you will only have the pdflatex compilation output.
 
@PauloCereda Ah. Ok. This Makefile consists of nice features ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Epic Makefile. :)
Hey @Bruno! :D
 
@PauloCereda You are familiar with Makefiles?
 
5:47 PM
@MarcoDaniel I was, in the past. Now I'm more *ant*-oriented. :)
 
@PauloCereda Based on the line pdflatex file.tex >/dev/null : How can I say \ifnoerror no output \else show error \fi
 
@MarcoDaniel I'd go with the application exit code.
Linux or Windows?
 
@PauloCereda This question is really hard ;-) -- Linux
 
@MarcoDaniel I tried this one:
 
Hello @Paulo.
Only half there, I need to get some work done.
 
6:02 PM
all: hello

hello:
          pdflatex hello.tex
          [ $$? -eq 0 ] && echo "Yay, my command works!"
 
@PauloCereda Please explain this? (The command .SILENT should work too :P )
 
@MarcoDaniel When you run a command in the terminal, something we call "exit status" is returned from the command to the terminal. The rule is 0 when everything worked fine (in terms of the command), or other value <> 0 if something abnormal happened. This value is stored in the terminal variable $?. What I did was to check if the variable (escaped by $$, Makefile seems to have another scripting syntax) was equal zero ( -eq 0 ) then echo the message.
Now that you mentioned, I don't know how echo behaves when .SILENT: is set.
Try to run a "good" tex file and run echo $? to see its exit status.
It should return 0.
If you try a bad tex, I'm sure the return will be 1. :)
 
@PauloCereda I tried it with the following example but it failes
`%test.tex
\documentclass{scrartcl}
%\foo
\begin{document}
Hello World
\end{document}`
And the Makefile is only:
all: hello

hello:
pdflatex test.tex
[ $$? -eq 0 ] && echo "Yay, my command works!"
 
@MarcoDaniel I'll check. Did you use tabs in the Makefile?
 
6:18 PM
@AndrewStacey This is a reaction to this (deleted) Community Promotion ad that the same person tried to post here: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/a/2074/2693 (Sorry to those who can't see deleted answers.)
 
@PauloCereda Of course. Without tabs you you will get an error.
 
@MarcoDaniel Just checking. :) Funny, the code works for me.
 
@AlanMunn I'd forgotten that. It looks a bit better in the version on maths (a bit) and might do a bit more good there than here.
 
@PauloCereda I maked a photo:
 
@MarcoDaniel It works, doesn't it? I see the message. :)
 
6:27 PM
@AndrewStacey Really what we need is more actual LyX experts here (and there are some). Otherwise we tend no to know what to do with LyX questions other than to answer them with not necessarily helpful remarks about not using it. The real problem with the ad is that is kind of bad-mouths us, but not without some validity, unfortunately.
 
@PauloCereda I think I explained my intention wrong. The example compiles without no errors. So I want to have the following output:
>make all
pdflatex text.foo
[ $$? -eq 0 ] && echo "Yay, my command works!"
Yay, my command works!
 
@MarcoDaniel Ah I see! Let me check.
 
If I get an error I want to get the normal output ;-)
You know what I mean?
 
@MarcoDaniel Ah let me see what I can do.
 
This is a typical question of `How can I avoid working` http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40159/how-to-draw-a-sankey-diagram-using-tikz
Correct grammar?
 
6:39 PM
@MarcoDaniel Yes, or "Can you please do this for me?"
However, I wonder whether the op is interested in a more general approach where the diagram width and "Sankeys" (I just made that up) divert based on parameter input.
 
@AlanMunn Oh, I have no problem with the dig at TeX-SX. I thought that was funny. It was still a bit of a wordy ad, and I don't think it's well designed. But I have no issue with LyX and I think you're right: it would be very good to have some LyX experts here to help out LyXers. But at the same time, I would hesitate at recommending LyX which is why I'm not sure that the advert would have worked here.
Or if I were to recommend LyX, it wouldn't be to wean someone off MS Word. It would be because it was the best fit for the person I was recommending it to in terms of an editor that they can use. Not everyone likes hitting Ctrl or Escape before every command!
 
@Werner The grammar is horrible help verb + subject + verb (I don't know whether How I can or How can I .. is correct` The first sounds a little bit weird )
@Werner If the op wants some improvements he should provide an example.
 
@AndrewStacey I agree that I can't recommend LyX either. You might want to add a comment to the ad thread that suggests that we would welcome LyX experts here. Although I don't think you should think of LyX as an editor...
 
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Q: Is LyX an editor which should be recommended?

Marco DanielVery often I read a question like How can I set something in LyX? Every time I think why do you use LyX? I know the biggest advantage is WYSIWYG. But people using LyX normally are not able to edit the code or to set special wishes. In this relation I think we shouldn't recommend LyX instea...

 
@MarcoDaniel Yes, I remember that. Maybe we should have a question "Why would you recommend LyX?" so that those of us who've never used it can learn a bit about it (but that would probably be "subjective and argumentative")
 
6:59 PM
@AndrewStacey This question should be: "What are the benefits and the drawbacks of LyX?" I think I will ask such a question. Do you think meta is a good place?
 
@MarcoDaniel: I'm almost there! It might take a while, make is giving me a nice beating. :P
 
I found this one: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/27878/pdflatex-bash-script-to-supress-all-output-except-error-messages
It isn't really what I want. The output should go until the next blank line after the error/warning message.
 
7:22 PM
@MarcoDaniel I don't think this is a good question to ask here. There aren't enough LyX users to provide accurate arguments on the pro side, and most of us are not in favour of it. So this will probably deteriorate into a "Why we hate LyX" fest which is not a good thing to have on the site.
 
@AlanMunn That's a good argument. I deleted the question.
 
I can't see deleted answers, so I suppose is that one LyX ad I saw. I thought it was too verbose, so I wrote a "cleaner" version of it. I didn't post it there because we actually asked the original author to make it less verbose. Mine was a backup.
 
7:37 PM
@PauloCereda This test is useless, because each command in the target is started in a new shell.
 
@AndreyVihrov Really? I never tried those tests inside Makefiles.
 
Basically, when making a target, for each command make just executes "$(SHELL) -c <command>"
 
@AndreyVihrov Ah good to know. That would explain why some codes I tried didn't worked. :)
 
If you have a complex construct, such as if or exit code tests, you have to write everything in one line or use `\` to split it into multiple lines
 
I see. :)
 
8:19 PM
@lockstep: I don't think this is a duplicate of your and @PeterGrill's linked posts, since it might require interaction with \numprint.
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Q: Wrapping a long \numprint number

ColdFusionI need to write the decimal expansion of a very long number (more than 100 digits) that I'm typesetting using the numprint package. Unfortunately, when I do this: \numprint{1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890} the digits extend o...

 
@Werner I wasn't sure, too -- therfore I provided a link, but did not vote to close.
 
@Werner Certainly the question linked to by Peter uses numprint.
 
@AlanMunn Yowzer! Missed that - true!
 
Why would someone use a number that big? :P
 
@PauloCereda Because of big calculators that can take moar digitz!
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8:23 PM
@Werner aaaaaaaaah! That'd explain it. :D
 
@lockstep The link proposed by Peter Grill should be the right one
 
@egreg If you say so ... voted to close. ;-)
 
@lockstep It's just a question of setting \npthousandsep; the Mersenne thing is just to provide the big number
 
8:38 PM
Today's my record flagging day -- 9 flags so far. :-)
The best one: Compare tex.stackexchange.com/a/2722/510 and tex.stackexchange.com/a/38971/510 -- David Carlisle has created two accounts.
 
@lockstep Both are unregistered.
 
@egreg Correct. But even if unregistered, one account is enough.
 
@lockstep Merged
 
@JosephWright Sorry for the moderator workload. (I had long suspected that there was a second unregistered "David Carlisle", but today I managed to find him by searching for "Carlisle" in the "Teacher" badge page.)
 
@lockstep No problem: this is hardly a lot of work
Anyway, just wait until we get to an election :-)
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8:50 PM
And this question alone is responsible for three flags:
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Q: How can I get no header but still get "page x of y" in footer?

Harry MacphersonI'd like to get "page x of y" in a footer on each page, and the way I've found is to use: \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage{lastpage} \pagestyle{fancy} \cfoot{Page \thepage\ of \pageref{LastPage}} This works but has introduced a solid line at the top of each page and some headers. How do I get...

 
@JosephWright Then someone else would get to enjoy "hardly a lot of work". Would you run again? Or is that too personal to ask now... :-|
 
Yay a new version of my favorite programming IDE! :D
 
@Werner From what we know, it seems I won't have to. The public pronouncements indicate that moderators continue until (a) they resign or (b) they are removed by the 'powers that be'
@lockstep I'd seen that the flag list had grown while I was in the car
@Werner If there is a need, I see no issue in standing again
 
@JosephWright We will protect you! We are the knights who say TeX. :)
 
@PauloCereda Watch it: I'll bring you a shrubbery!
 
8:55 PM
dramatic music playing
@JosephWright Or a herring! :)
Epic line: "I am a shrubber. My name is Roger the Shrubber. I arrange, design, and sell shrubberies."
 
@PauloCereda I was tempted to calculate a few thousand digits of pi using cs.ox.ac.uk/people/jeremy.gibbons/publications/spigot.pdf when I answered that question, just to make Bruno happy:)
 
@JosephWright A "reverse election", possibly? ;-)
 
@lockstep Well of course. Don't vote for me, vote for lockstep :-)
 
@YiannisLazarides That'd be awesome! :)
@JosephWright Reverse psychology?
 
@PauloCereda You are on my list too :-)
 
9:07 PM
@JosephWright Uh-oh. :P
 
@lockstep I've added an answer to the "newgeometry" question: Javier's titleps seems to work also with \newgeometry. It's quite an achievement and I feel that this package should be advertised.
 
@egreg You got my penultimate vote today. (The last one is reserved for Frank Mittelbach.)
Right now, my flag weight is rising about as fast as @egreg's reputation. +1.5 in 24 hours! ;-)
 
A blog post for @AndrewStacey I think:
Posted by Lauren Gundrum on January 5th, 2012

CHAOS has been searching for the perfect way to promote activity on our sites for a while now. After all, before you can try to recruit new users, you need to engage your existing community. Since we’re a network of Q&A websites, a natural place to start is having question-asking contests. Some of our contests have been more successful than others, but it seems like we’ve finally found one that works:

What: Hot Topic of the Week

How it works: Pick a topic of the week, and enter everyone who asks a question related to that topic into a random drawing to win a prize. The number of entries a person gets is equal to the number of questions they ask about the topic of the week. …

 
9:32 PM
@JosephWright Yes, I saw that. I then had to have a looooonnnnngggggg lie down. Please, please, please let me know well in advance if they threaten us with this so that I can be sure to be on holiday that week. Preferably without any internet access whatsoever.
 
@AndrewStacey I think it's meant to be community-led, so it's not down to CHAOS turning up
@Werner I assume you mean the comment about which answer to accept
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Q: Hyphenate a series of consecutively numbered references

user001 Possible Duplicate: Citing a range of papers (using numeric keys)? I am using the package bibentry and the \cite command to include numerical references to a bibliography. If one cites multiple consecutive references, the series is displayed as a comma separated list (e.g., [1, 2, 3, 4...

Anyone have a view on this: it was flagged for reopening by the OP, but I think the dupe stands
 
@JosephWright Yes. It seemingly voids @barabarabeeton's option to answer while still regurgitating @Mico's highly voted one. But that's the OP's choice... Since this is community-driven, votes will reign supreme.
 
@Werner A few more votes and Mico will end up with a cool badge.
 
@AlanMunn Only if the OP's answer also becomes Nice +1. Not too likely.
 
9:41 PM
@lockstep You might be the first person to flag weight \ge 749, and another gold badge :-)
 
@JosephWright My reverse election slogan will be "Marshal before Moderator!" ;-)
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What's the TeX.SX flag weight sort order? Lockstep (large gap), ?, ?, ?, ...
 
@lockstep "Every TeX.sx user has a Marshal's baton in his or her napsack"
@Werner Martin S. is over 626
 
@JosephWright BTW, I cast my first "very low quality" flag today. Martin's comment convinced me that the respective "answer" probably doesn't make any sense.
 
@lockstep Which one was that?
Oh, I see :-)
 
9:45 PM
@JosephWright Yes, Martin and I are currently rowing with the same Marshal baton...
 
@Werner There's no obvious search tool for this
 
@Werner And Caramdir has got stuck at 644.
 
@lockstep Just out of curiosity, do you flag things that others have already flagged?
 
@AlanMunn The majority, but not all of them. I ignore the ones where I'm unsure and flag as "invalid flag" where I disagree (11 times so far).
 
@lockstep I ask because of this discussion where the consensus seemed to be that this isn't particularly useful for us (although obviously not harmful).
 
9:51 PM
@AlanMunn They've improved the logic: we only get one 'flag' per actual issue, so if several people flag it does not matter
For other sites with lots of flags, the fact that more flags = higher up the list is important
 
@JosephWright I see. I generally don't bother to add my flag to an already flagged post, which is why my flag weight has only recently reached 500.
 
@AlanMunn I do the same, since I wasn't sure what goes on behind the scenes.
@JosephWright It's good to know that additional poking/prodding isn't in yo face.
 
@AlanMunn My attitude is that if I have invested some time to ponder if I should affirm, ignore, or invalidate a flag, and the answer is "Affirm!", ignoring it isn't too helpful.
@JosephWright But it's good to know that you see only one flag (but backed up with additional weight).
 
@lockstep What we get now is a list ordered by number of flags, but where the same item flagged multiple times only counts once in the 'top row' number. So at the moment I see four flagged items, with the top one having four individual flags attached. Works well.
 
@AlanMunn BTW, I regurlarly flag because I spot users with two or even three accounts, and suggest to merge them. I have never seen another "suggested merger" flag, though.
@JosephWright I guess the top one is the "very low quality" answer we spoke of.
 
10:02 PM
@lockstep No, there is another one
 
@JosephWright Then it's probably the one flag I chose to ignore.
@JosephWright There is: Go to the Deputy badge site and check the 13 Deputies.
 
@lockstep I think that's now one of the required badges to stand to be a moderator. I'm in the clear, and so is @StefanKottwitz!
Probably does not apply to existing moderators
@lockstep So @doncherry is #2, I think
 
@JosephWright Indeed!
 
The weird thing is that you can get the Deputy badge as a moderator!
 
Hmmm. Something seems to have gone wrong in the space-time continuum again. On this machine, Werner's posts have Stefan's gravatar attached.
 
10:15 PM
@AndrewStacey Huh?
 
10:27 PM
I'll play Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries all day long during the election.
I heard that if you say CHAOS three times while looking at the mirror, your community receives a visit of one of them.
 
@JosephWright Did this cause David's two new badges? tex.stackexchange.com/users/1090/…
Actually, more importantly, what does "Unregistered" mean in terms of an account... I thought one necessarily is "registered" when you have an account.
 
@Werner Almost certainly
@Werner No, if you just post without logging in then you are 'unregistered'. The system will track you with a session cookie, but once it expires you loose the link
 
@JosephWright So what does that mean in terms of David's year-old account, since he recently posted an answer.
 
@Werner "Yearling" is new, but the other one may have been awarded a second time (similar to when one gains, loses, and then regains a tag badge.)
 
@Werner He'd answered some stuff before, then came back recently and answered again. As the cookie expired and he'd not registered, the two accounts were separate despite using the same e-mail. So I've merged them, linking the old log in and answer data to the newer session ID
 
10:41 PM
@Werner Unregistered users also aren't listed on the "Users" page. Try to look for "Carlisle".
 
@lockstep Doesn't affect me:-)
 
@JosephWright I knew. ;-)
 
@lockstep I see. I guess that's why it was hard to track him down (via the Teacher badge you mentioned).
 
@Werner To explain, the mod-only tools include 'Find Users by OpenId, Email, Website, or DisplayName'
 
@JosephWright Thanks...
 
10:44 PM
@Werner Exactly. I found the "old" account on page 22.
 
@lockstep If you have a suspicion, ping one of the mods and we can do a search by name or e-mail. It's faster.
 
Must've been visited by a Doctor. The gravatars are back to normal.
 
@JosephWright Next time I'll do.
 
11:19 PM
@egreg Do you think tex.stackexchange.com/q/6470/2707 (which is about checking that delimiters are properly matched) could be done well by making all delimiter character "math-active", and keeping a stack of open delimiters?
 
@BrunoLeFloch It might. Much slower than with Perl or something specialized. Seeing an example of real code would be better.
 
(I (miss (Lisp (so much))))
 
11:40 PM
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