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12:00 AM
@egreg you need a special opentype font that has a ligature program for multiple rs that turns it into something unpostable
 
@DavidCarlisle Try \usepackage{chickenize}
 
@egreg don't tempt me
 
 
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1:04 AM
Is this a bug, or am I missing something?
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pgfcalendar}
\begin{document}\end{document}
The documentation says I should be able to use pgfcalendar on its own.
 
 
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6:58 AM
Another six upvotes.
 
7:10 AM
@DavidCarlisle ?
@DavidCarlisle I've reverted the change in tex-ini-file
 
Hi, I am back! What did I miss? :)
 
@PauloCereda Quack my friend ! :-)
 
@RomainPicot coin coin to you, my friend !
 
@PauloCereda @DavidCarlisle finding more LuaTeX 'features'
 
^^ ooh look at my French spacing! :)
@JosephWright ooh :)
 
7:20 AM
@PauloCereda It's not a really French spacing you know? ^^
 
@RomainPicot o.O
ooh tell me it's Belgian!
 
@PauloCereda The space around punctuation mark have not the same size as the space between word
 
@RomainPicot oh
 
@PauloCereda And the best part is that nobody knows it ! And most of the time let the software put the space ;-)
 
@RomainPicot Everybody wins! :)
 
7:26 AM
@PauloCereda Not when you have people becoming made because of the space put by the software :P
 
@RomainPicot Give them chocolate. :)
 
@PauloCereda No ! Better eat it myself !
 
@RomainPicot :D
 
@egreg @ChristianHupfer By the way, I don't mind closing tex.stackexchange.com/questions/288382/…, but I think the original choice of duplicate was wrong, which is why I first voted to reopen.
 
@barbarabeeton I'm looking to join TUG as student (with a valid ID card from an accredited institution). However I did not see where I should provide it. I'll received an email after or something similar? (sorry if it's written somewhere but haven't seen it)
 
7:41 AM
Hihi
 
@RomainPicot Is there a local French group? Maybe a joint subscription sounds good. :)
 
@PauloCereda It's around the same price with the local group added. I think it's fine so
@barbarabeeton Forget my last question, @PauloCereda already helped me ;-)
 
@RomainPicot I am part of the best local group that there ever was and ever will be! :)
 
@PauloCereda The duck local group? :)
 
7:57 AM
@RomainPicot I wish. :) The glorious UK-TUG! /all raise We have David, so it's awesome. :)
 
@PauloCereda There is no Brazilian/Portuguese local group?
 
@RomainPicot Thank God there isn't one, otherwise I'd be insane by now. :)
 
@PauloCereda You can create it ;-)
 
@RomainPicot I had the logo, but there was an overfull hbox in it, so I gave up. :)
 
@PauloCereda I think there is some place when you can ask for some help about TeX related problem :)
 
8:02 AM
@RomainPicot Google Groups, surely. :)
 
@PauloCereda I do not use them but why not :)
 
@RomainPicot dem groups. :)
 
@PauloCereda I've to go, I've to wrote a big part of my thesis to write
 
@RomainPicot Have a great day!
 
@PauloCereda thanks :/
 
8:14 AM
@RomainPicot Also @PauloCereda has to. :P
 
@egreg For me it's for the first year only ;-)
 
@egreg uh-oh! :)
@egreg: mind if I ask about a preamble recommendation? :)
 
8:45 AM
Migrated meta question:
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Q: TeX and derivatives tags

Brian MayerIn TeX.SX the tags XeTeX and XeLaTeX are the same, but there is a big diference between this two topics, so when we look for something specific we get also results of little help. The same case happens with LaTeX an TeX. Thus splitting in two separate tags is of use, more opinions like this one?

 
Does any Linux user here use Btrfs?
Probably @ChristianHupfer, since he's an OpenSUSE user. :)
 
Morning @DavidCarlisle
@DavidCarlisle Expect a check-in soon for ltnews24 with some thoughts on future developments
 
@JosephWright thanks,
@PauloCereda it's also -5C in the UK: you should visit:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle wow, it is cold!
 
9:03 AM
@DavidCarlisle Warmer than that here (Norwich)
 
@DavidCarlisle We have -2C in Paris. France > UK so :-)
 
@JosephWright: Google tells me it's 20C right now, at 7AM. :)
Quite cold.
 
@PauloCereda Se o Google diz-lhe que ele é 20, ela deve ser verdadeira
 
@DavidCarlisle Portuguese is not stellar now, but it's ok, I guess. :)
 
@PauloCereda if Google tells me that is Portuguese, it must be true.
 
9:16 AM
@PauloCereda Go ahead
@PauloCereda ^^^^^ You could visit
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
@egreg ooh I almost froze to death in Barcelona with a weather of 27C. :) I think the real problem is the thermal sensation. :)
@egreg I am about to get the Lucida pack soon. What would be your recommended preamble setup (normal text + math) for PDFLaTeX and new engines (e.g, XeLaTeX)?
 
@PauloCereda You should visit Canada when it's -30 or so
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's ask @barbarabeeton to move the TUG conference to winter. :)
If I get TUG to come here, you all will face a freezing 25C Brazilian winter. :)
When my winter is hotter than your summer... :)
 
@PauloCereda I got to the conclusion that a common preamble for pdflatex and xelatex is a dream.
 
@egreg Oh I share your dreams. :) I meant your recommendations for both. It's like Montecchi and Capuleti. :)
 
9:30 AM
@egreg it's simple you just need to get Will to write fontspec so that it works with pdftex, in the case that a more or less compatible set of 8bit encoded type1 fonts and tex metrics are available
@JosephWright looks good (apart from this area ad ideas of language) let's see if it receives universal acclaim:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I have thought about such things, but concluded it was a bad idea
 
@JosephWright possibly a better idea would be to get more font packages to work either way so like \usepackage{lmodern}
 
@DavidCarlisle Or we could proclaim there is only one true font.
 
@DavidCarlisle Possibly, though for XeTeX/LuaTeX with no kernel support for system font loading it's complex
 
@JosephWright pdflatex ltnews24 seems OK, pdflatex ltnews less so
@PauloCereda comic sans
@JosephWright tell me:-)
 
9:39 AM
@DavidCarlisle I was thinking more that you could imagine an interface like fontspec's but generalised, with some idea of mapping from an agreed font name to either a system font or one set up for pdfTeX. However, it's I suspect too fragile and masks important differences in outcomes, etc.
 
@JosephWright yes in the end I think there are too many choices in mapping from one otf font with some font features specified to a set of 8bit fonts, and having a generic interface is not workable but if there was a simple packages for the main tex font sets such as "computer modern" or "times" or "stix math" or "latin modern" probably the majority of documents could get by without an explicit \ifxetex test.
 
10:02 AM
@JosephWright Copy-paste of the code from ltnews23! I suppose I could have done that:-) Actually I'd planned to move it to the class file (so it worked still with older latex, but I guess that isn't really essential)
is this question answerable or close as OT? (see comments)
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Q: A way to transfer automatic citation

AviI have a tex file: \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \nocite{*} \begin{abstract} Here is the first citation [1]. And here comes the next [2]. \end{abstract} \section{Introduction} Here is the third one [3]. \bibliography{BibliographyforpaperFull} \bibliographystyle{unsrtnat} ...

 
@DavidCarlisle I wonder if the original document is hyperlinked and he's hoping to get the source back out
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
 
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12:56 PM
@JosephWright texlua build.lua ctan makes the right zip file but moans a bit: I'll look later, but if you want to fix, feel free:-) zip error: Nothing to do! (luatex-def.zip)
 
1:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle: 24 upvotes!
 
@Jake If you started the answer before the closure, you should still be able to answer by the way. I also voted to reopen.
Hello @OlgaK!
 
Hi))
 
@OlgaK Hello!
@Jake ooh an owl! :)
 
@Alenanno No, it pops up a banner saying "This question has been closed, no more answers will be accepted"
@PauloCereda Ooh, a duck! Birds of a feather!
 
1:29 PM
@Jake Ah, I don't remember the conditions right now for closing. But it's odd. Anyway, it should be open soon.
 
@PauloCereda: I'm glad the card made it all the way across the ocean. Took a while =)
 
@Jake High five!
@Jake I blame sharks. :)
 
Hehe, pesky creatures
 
@PauloCereda Sharks are misunderstood people!
 
@Alenanno o.O
 
1:31 PM
@PauloCereda :D
I saw there's Jaws 2 on Netflix. But I'm not going to watch that.
 
@Alenanno Unless of course it's the shark from Kate Perry.
 
@PauloCereda I'm... not familiar with that. :P
 
@Alenanno hold on!
 
@PauloCereda The left one is the best ;-)
 
@PauloCereda Oh lord lol
 
1:33 PM
@RomainPicot Exactly
 
2:00 PM
@Jake The question is now open.
 
 
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3:13 PM
@PauloCereda What's the matter?
 
@ChristianHupfer I just asked which filesystem people use.
 
@PauloCereda fat-8 ;-)
@PauloCereda: All my partitions are using old-fashioned ext4
 
Hi all
I'm looking for some basic TikZ information:
I'm trying understand how to parse this:
\draw (0,0) ..controls +(1,0) and +(-1,0) .. (2,1);
What do the +'s accomplish?
I see that the result is quite different from the identical code without the +'s, but I don't understand how it works.
 
@PauloCereda filesystem for the discerning:
C:/cygwin64 on / type ntfs (binary,auto)
 
3:40 PM
How does the first control modify the interpretation of the second +?
If there is already a question about this on the main site, I'd be very grateful if someone could provide a link.
 
yo'
@Danu + means "relative to the first coordinate of the path". Compare \draw (1,1) -- (1,2); and \draw (1,1) -- +(1,2);
 
4:07 PM
@yo'I thought that, but in my above example, replacing the controls by relative coordinates does not give the same result.
 
yo'
@Danu ah sorry, that must be some pecularity of controls and
ah, the second controls is counted from the endpoint I think
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{tikz}

\begin{document}

\tikz
\draw (0,0) ..controls (1,0) and (1,1) .. (2,1);

\tikz
\draw (0,0) ..controls +(1,0) and +(-1,0) .. (2,1);

\end{document}
 
Ah!! Thanks!
 
4:50 PM
Why our thread about bold tags isn't displayed in the hot meta thingy in the main site?
 
@PauloCereda not hot enough?
 
@PauloCereda Not enough activity to be considered hot lol
 
5:08 PM
@DavidCarlisle oooh
@Alenanno no excuse, other questions have less traffic and less updates. :)
It's deliberate, probably related to the tags.
 
@PauloCereda There is a network wide policy of not including questions tagged in the hot meta lists
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
@PauloCereda you should have used [tag:𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗸𝘀-𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲-𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗰-𝘀𝗮𝗻𝘀]
boo :(
 
@PauloCereda I added an answer.
 
@egreg Upvoted. :)
@egreg: by the way, when you have the advice on Lucida, I'd love to hear. :)
 
5:24 PM
@PauloCereda Later, when I'll be having my wine.
 
@egreg Thank you! In vino veritas, they say. :)
@DavidCarlisle: you should drink more wine. ^^ :)
It's a good source of Latin. :)
 
I added an answer too.
 
@Alenanno Thank you! <3
 
@Alenanno @egreg Upvoted
 
@Johannes_B Thanks. Coming soon: Chat text in bold!
Always bold.
 
5:29 PM
@Alenanno I hope the one responsible notices the irony, and not take this as a feature request.
 
@Johannes_B Oh god, can you imagine lol
 
@Alenanno ˙ƎWOSƎM∀ Ǝq ˥˥IM ┴I ˙┴XƎ┴ p˥Oq pN∀ SԀ∀Ɔ ˥˥∀ 'Spɹ∀MʞƆ∀q 'NMOp ƎpISԀ∩
‮I like ducks.
ooh it works.
 
@DavidCarlisle Thoughts on comments on tex.stackexchange.com/a/288520/73?
 
anybody understanding the question? latex-community.org/forum/…
 
@Johannes_B $\left[ \vcenter{\rule[0ex]{3cm}{4cm}} \right.$
 
6:33 PM
@JosephWright well yes probably the start of a general recoding of the bottom pgf layer as expl3:-)
 
@PauloCereda Here's what I use
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\setmainfont[Scale=.83,Numbers=OldStyle]{Lucida Bright OT}
\setmathfont[Scale=MatchUppercase,StylisticSet=04]{Lucida Bright Math OT}
 
@Johannes_B tell OP to look at delarray (which just does that for tabular, but could be applied to other boxes )
 
@egreg Thank you! This is for the OTF setup, isn't it?
 
@PauloCereda Yes. For Type1 I had
  \usepackage[scale=0.87,romanfamily=bright-osf,stdmathdigits=true]{lucimatx}
  \makeatletter
  \DeclareMathAlphabet\mathbf\operator@encoding{hlh}{b}{n}
  \makeatother
 
@egreg Thank you! <3
 
7:03 PM
@Alenanno I know that there is a difference between a close and on hold question. But when you have someone that wrote a question 30 minutes ago you can wait before to close I think no?
 
@PauloCereda I use btrfs ...
 
@StrongBad cool! Which distro, how do you like it? :)
 
@PauloCereda I use Arch. I switched to it so I could use snapper.io
 
@StrongBad Ah nice.
 
I gave up on snapper but stuck with btrfs. Snapshot based bakups work much better for me than rsnapshot (despite the name).
I also like snapshots for creating chroots to build packages (and run my experiments) in.
 
7:13 PM
In my Slackware times, I used ReiserFS. Then, with RH and Fedora, I moved to Ext3 and Ext4. I used ZFS with OpenSolaris for a while, then I decided to try something new, either Btrfs or XFS. :)
 
@PauloCereda btrfs is closer to zfs. btrfs is missing some of the enterprise features (e.g., RAID is a little bit of a pain), but for a single user desktop/laptop I like the snapshots and the dynamic inodes.
At one point I was running an experiment that generated a ton of directories and I ran out of inodes on ext4.
 
@StrongBad ooh. :)
 
7:48 PM
@PauloCereda by the way: ntg.nl/lug/lugs.html#pt
 
@RomainPicot Nope. :) I know this mailing list, but I don't dare touch it. :)
 
@PauloCereda But why?
 
@RomainPicot I cannot say it in public. :) But I give you one reason: ABNT. :)
 
@PauloCereda Associação Brasileira de Normas Técnicas?
 
@RomainPicot The very same!
 
7:55 PM
@PauloCereda the difference between Portuguese from Portugual and Portuguese from Brasil?
 
@RomainPicot Two different languages. :)
 
@RomainPicot sure. I didn't even vote to close :P
 
@PauloCereda Like French from France and from Acadie ;-)
 
@RomainPicot :)
 
@Alenanno For me some people may vote to close as robo-review
 
8:25 PM
I've got a question that I'm sure has been answered on this site, but I'm not finding it. I want to manually advance the equation counter, or set it to a specific value. Trying to keep equation numbers on lecture slides consistent with those in the textbook for the class.
 
@Gregory what document class (e.g., beamer or article)?
 
beamer
 
Does \setcounter{equation}{7} do what you want?
@Gregory See above ...
 
@StrongBad That'll do it. Thanks.
 
9:03 PM
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yo'
9:16 PM
@StrongBad Just got my Academia T-shirt! Yay!
 
@yo' nice. I didn't give SE my contact info so no shirt for me.
 
9:35 PM
@RomainPicot the comma is misplaced, just get another 363000 and you'll have 366,663
 
yo'
@StrongBad ah that sucks...
 
10:23 PM
@DavidCarlisle maybe one day ;-)
 
 
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11:24 PM
@PauloCereda Today I introduced the Gregory series for the arctangent: the students were amused. ;-)
 
Hi,
I have a picture (logo picture), and I don't want the white background to appear. I just want the symbol and text to appear. How can I edit this picture such that I get what I want?
I am sorry if my question is out off topic.
 
@sky-light use imagemagic or a graphics editor to make the background transparent?
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A: How to insert multiple pictures in page

David CarlisleSo, I took a previous answer of mine and made it more serious by using captions rather than just minipage text. The I took your image saved it as molecule-orig.png and used imagemagic convert: convert molecule-orig.png -transparent white molecule.png So the background in molecule.png is trans...

 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, that is what I want, making the background transparent. In fact, I have an old version of the logo which is .png file from the last year 2015, when I want to update it to 2016 using MS paint and save it, a message appears telling that I lose the transparency of the picture
 
@sky-light you could use a different editor or use paint anyway and then fix it with convert -transparent as I did there
 
11:54 PM
@DavidCarlisle This conversion tool, (imagemagick convert), is working under windows ?
 

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