This is going to be difficult, since it doesn't fall within the generic realm of StackExchange - site-specific features.
Instead I propose we create a generic question that has a please-do-this-for-me flavour and answer it in a generic way, pointing to some FAQs about usages for packages, other ...
but it's really annoying: geometry doesn't give me symmetric result for a twoside document if I ever use \newgeometry. And I don't even know what is causiing it because a very simple MWE works like charm. But my twocolumn switching and stuff does not.
@yo' compared to newgeometry that has to make scary changes everywhere quote has a 2-line definition and \begin{quote}...\end{quote} just works and the stuff has larger margins
@yo' Not if you have any nested itemize etc as if you just change hsize they won't know. that's all quote does but it also changes \linewidth and \@totalleftmargin and other stuff so any latex display construct knows where to start.
it sucks, tomorrow's a deadine for one conference (already submitted, so good), in 1 week's time is a deadline for another conference (will take some time)
@DavidCarlisle He points out that xparse adding 'command X declared on line ...' isn't that helpful as the line refers to some package (usually) rather than to the user's code
@DavidCarlisle I was thinking of taking the point and removing the 'line context'
@JosephWright I must say I don't really have much sympathy for the redefinition logging. when you load unicode-math and get told a thousand math characters have been redefined, what's the point? If left to me I'd turn them all off by default and have a \tracingall command that turned them back on.
@DavidCarlisle Don't you dare. :) I already suffer a lot when people think our capital is Buenos Aires and we speak Spanish. :) Oh and someone once mentioned our currency is Brazilian dollar. :)
@PauloCereda Minor differences between European languages are insignificant if you are a master of many languages and can speak 中國 and العربية as well as easy languages like italiano
@PauloCereda No, if you use your Italian passport. For taking pictures with Her Majesty The Queen you need a special permit from @DavidCarlisle who's friend with her.
When you go to http://write-math.com/experimental/ you will notice a new "get PNG" button. What would you like more:
1. The PNG gets displayed in the browser (as it is currently done) 2. The PNG gets uploaded (anonymously) to imgur.com (stackexchange puts the images there, too)
This feature can be used by people who ask "how can I make this symbol with LaTeX" questions. They draw it, they save the PNG, they paste the PNG to the question. (And similar to the automatic search which happens when you write the question, you might just find the symbol you looked for while drawing the symbol)
@moose 1 seems enough to me, people can always get the png from the browser and do whatever they want with it (that would be a bit easier if you gave the png a zzzzz.png url as the file save default is a bit better then at least in firefox)
@DavidCarlisle Ok. I will try to get this. (By the way, I just removed MathJax. I have to work a little bit to make sure that STIXGeneral is included and to make sure that the user can give feedback about the suggested symbols, but I think this will replace the default version tomorrow)
@PauloCereda What happens when you came to France on 1st of July and are there at end of August? (is getting a visa for France / the UK complicated for you?)
Seems I forgot to make \bm a math command and @karlkoeller uses that fact:-)
Wow I would never have guessed the construct \bm{$h$} worked (and I wrote it:-) Actually even now I'm not quite sure how it worked. \boldmath as in my answer would be much safer and quicker:-) — David Carlisle5 mins ago
@PauloCereda Oh yes. A few months ago I went to the US to study. I had a scholarship, I only went there for 4 months but I still had to prove I have (1) about 1775 USD/month (2) I really want to get back. I needed to go to the embassy, fill out a lot of forms, pay a lot for the visit to the embassy and for SEVIS ... (if you're interested in details, I wrote it down here: martin-thoma.com/interact/#tocAnchor-1-18 to help other students who got the same scholarship)
@PauloCereda -- we will require a report on your experiences in portugal, specifically, whether you can understand mainland portuguese, or, more importantly, whether the locals can understand you! (have a great time.)
@yo' -- true enough, but around where i live, there are several varieties of portuguese spoken quite extensively -- "mainland" (suppose one could refer to it as "ur-portuguese") and several varieties from the islands: cabo verde, madeirense, sao miguel, and other azorean dialects. (no brazilian that i'm aware of.) most of these are mutually intelligible, but there are idioms that "don't travel". (the food from the different areas is also distinctive, and all yummy!)
@yo' -- i'm pretty much omnivorous. i won't starve (and in fact, will enjoy what i order) in lots of languages. all i require is that it be well prepared, made from naturally occurring ingredients, and (sadly) not too spicy-hot (results in "pizza effect", which is not fun for several days afterwards).
I probably have not done as much research on this as I should, but: is there any way to achieve this? vvv
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{array}
\newcolumntype{P}[1]{>{\raggedright\arraybackslash}p{#1}}
\begin{document}
I would like to make
\begin{tabular}{|P{2cm}|}
test \\
test 2
\end{tabular}
Behave like
\begin{tabular}{|l|}
test \\
test 2
\end{tabular}
until the specified size is reached, after which it behaves like
\begin{tabular}{|>{\raggedright\arraybackslash}p{2cm}|}
long test here \\
test 2
\end{tabular}
\end{document}
I want the column to grow to a certain point, and only after that begin to wrap lines.
@yo' -- well, i just googled "pizza effect" and what is reported there is mostly different from what i know it as. locally (providence, ri), "pizza effect" means that the cheese on the top insulates the sauce underneath, so that when one bites into a fresh slice, the sauce erupts and burns/blisters the roof of one's mouth. too late ... and i don't know of any effective remedial measures. in the case of foods with high scoville unit content, it's a chemical burn; same unpleasant result.
@yo' yes, I can't begin to think how it might be done. It's way over my skill level, that's for sure. I wasn't sure if it's been done before and my searches missed something.
@PaulGessler for a one-line table it's easy, but with anything more you'll need the longtable approach of writing to the aux file. It knows to be complicated.
@barbarabeeton Will do. :) I heard that language is something taken literally, so if you say I'd like a pizza, they will reply, So call again when you've made your mind. :)
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tabulary}
\begin{document}
I would like to make
\centering
\begin{tabulary}{\textwidth}{|L|}
test \\
test 2
\end{tabulary}
Behave like
\begin{tabulary}{\textwidth}{|L|}
test \\
test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2
test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2
test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2
test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2
test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2 test 2
@DavidCarlisle oh, you're right. I always forget about tabulary. I just need to have it set the target width on one column rather than the entire table. I'll take a look at the code when I get home tonight. Thanks for the recommendation.
@SeanAllred nicely done with the XKCD reference. :-D
And then get the answer on this page somehow – either by directing them to this site or by quoting the necessary stops to a solution. xkcd.com/979 — Sean Allred12 mins ago
@JosephWright after reading unformatted sourcecode of so many function as it's provided by \tracingmacros=1, this is nothing. It even stands on its own line ;)
@SeanAllred I so want to use xkcd.com/1179 as the response to a comment on a document I've put out for review at work, but I think I value my employment a bit too much to actually do it... :-)
@JosephWright I just learnt something about luatex hyphernation, did you know this?
@UlrikeFischer Interesting. It works if you make digits letters according to the hyphenation system (ie make them lowercase to themselves) luatex breaks 978-3-642-07617-6 if you add \lccode`0=`0 \lccode`1=`1 \lccode`2=`2 \lccode`3=`3 \lccode`4=`4 \lccode`5=`5 \lccode`6=`6 \lccode`7=`7 \lccode`8=`8 \lccode`9=`9 — David Carlisle56 secs ago
Spoke with my team lead and the topic switched to LaTeX, I mentioned that I'm not your average bear with it (I really don't want to toot my own horn, but the public's experience with LaTeX is usually less than ideal) and he said there might be an application within the company I'm working at now.
@DavidCarlisle Completely agree with the 2e thing though – LaTeX3 will make the whole thing so much easier to sell
today there were two identical questions: latex \usepackage{graphicx} (on hold) and \usepackage{graphicx} (duplicate), both now closed. the second one was clearly an attempt by the author of the original question to add a mwe (he didn't know how to edit his original question, and was responding to a comment thereon).
some of the comments on the first question were good, but the statement of the second question was better, so i flagged it for moderator attention with the suggestion to close the first, point to the second. but before anything else could happen, the second was closed as duplicate, and the first shortly thereafter put on hold as unclear.
@barbarabeeton I initiated closing of the second as a dupe of the first because the MWE should have been added there instead of put in a new question. I didn't realize there were close votes going on in parallel on the other question; sorry about that.
there is actually a plausible answer in a comment to the first question -- that "The latest version of pdflatex will treat missing pictures as if you were using the draft option." i didn't know that -- if true -- but it's now impossible to add an answer to an on-hold question. if someone can verify the truth of the "draft" behavior, i will vote to reopen.
@PaulGessler -- i left a comment stating what i was doing; i think there was only one close vote when i did that, and there were few enough comments that it didn't just go into the "invisible extras" stack. but someone copied the mwe into the first question, so things are somewhat better there w.r.t possibly reopening. (but as i said, only if the suggested behavior with the new pdflatex really works.)
@Maïeul not he 1000/factor it's the maximum height of \box\footins but of it's bigger than \vsize it's really a no-op as tex doesn't put more that vsize in an insert register anyway. plain tex sets it to 8in which is less than vsize:
$ tex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159265 (TeX Live 2014) (preloaded format=tex)
**\showthe \vsize
> 643.20255pt.
<*> \showthe \vsize
?
*\showthe\dimen\footins
> 578.15999pt.
<*> \showthe\dimen\footins
?
@Maïeul latex just doesn't do anything other than copy some code from plain (even has Knuth's original comment still) so it is left at 8in but \textheight in article is less than that so it makes no sense really.
@Maïeul if you make sure that \dimen\footins is less than \textheight a split footnote will never take a complete page and there will always be at least one line of main text
@Maïeul your MWE was single column so it is hard to be specific, but whatever column arrangement you have the idea is the same, you should make sure that a split footnote is at most a line less than a full column
@Maïeul eledpar seems to be in tl2015 so you could make an eledpar example and stick it here use lipsum package or some other text generator to keep it small;-)
@Maïeul oh yes, it certainly is;-) \clearpage is mainly designed to flush any pending floats, and latex does not support footnotes on floatpages, so \clearpage forces out the footnotes in a similar wayto it forcing figures and tables to be on float pages even if specified with [h] or [t] \clearpage basically means "dump everything you have now and start from a clean state in a new page"
@Maïeul so probably best you could do is make \clearpage be defined as if there are pending floats \originalclearpage \else \newpage That will give you the behaviour you want unless \clearpage is really dumping out figures
@Maïeul yes latex doesn't really do inserts footnote just crept in from plain tex and almost all the output routine is based around handling floats (which don't use \insert at all)
@JosephWright yes but at least if we have the tests we know they have bugs, even if we can't do much about it.
@SeanAllred how many conversations can I multiplex:-) No most likely (as in \insert isn't much help, really. To unify \footnotes should make them into floats
@Maïeul sorry. As Sean said. It looks from the code like they were not at the top of Leslie Lamports concerns:-) the code for footnotes is just a copy of the plain tex code.
@SeanAllred but you need split footnotes, so that would mean you need split floats and that would mean rewriting most of latex, which was why there was a decision to have latex3 a couple of decades ago;-)
@Maïeul There are very few latex packages that use \newinsert and latex's output routine has essentially no support for inserts other than the primitive behaviour that is built in.
@SeanAllred At PMQs it's common to ask a 'standard' opening question (the rules make this advantageous), so the PM has a set of 'ready to go' answers of the form 'No. 3'
@DavidCarlisle indeed, and, because I am a philologue which touch a little bit in LaTeX, am the only maintener of one these package... for my great misfortune
@JosephWright -- i think these days they mostly concentrate on the context meetings. and sometimes to bachotex (both taco and hans gave presentations at bachotex 2014).
@DavidCarlisle thanks in any case. You'r conversation help me to find where was the problem. Very strange. 2 Years on this problem, and the solution is so easy...
@Manuel \foo would be hidden \def\foo{\iffalse} would be seen as an \if (and is a common source of error if people put such things in a conditional region)
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