@JosephWright It seems that svmono managed to escape from its destiny as a synonym for sv-classes, could you please merge the two? Or should I retag it manually (it's 17 questions)?
A user introduced a tag svmult in this question. I thought it's too specialized and changed it into broader sv-classes.
Then I found that there exist svjour3 for one of their classes.
I think that since we do not need multiple sv-foo tags, the tag svjour3 should be a synonym of the broader sv-c...
@JosephWright good, thanks. (At first, the sentence "should be" gave me the impresson of "should be in the future", so it confused me a bit. But it's fine now, I recovered :) )
something seems to be broke with latest TL update with tex4ht. On the new PC, Linux 64 bit, htlatex does not find the user configuration file (.cfg) when it is in the home directory, but find it when it is in the current directory. Same set up works ok on my other linux machine. Something very strange is going on.
I've got (once again) a question related to my symbol recognizer.
@DavidCarlisle suggested I could drop MathJax as I only need it to display single symbols by directly showing the unicode symbol.
I currently add the information to my database by searching for the symbol on http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/03f5/index.htm However, for some symbols (like \varepsilon and \epsilon) it is a bit tricky to find the right one (and it is a tedious task to do this for 1111 symbols). Is there an automatic way to do this?
get unicode.xml from w3.org/2003/entities/2007doc and look in the unicode-math field (or equivalently in that case look in the uniocde-math tex sources) but unicode.xml has lots of other useful information:-) (save the file, don't look at it in a browser)
@moose ^^^ that is the entries like: <mathlatex set="unicode-math">
@DavidCarlisle Very nice! Thank you very much :-) I was prepared to spend about 7 hours only searching for the right unicdoe code points. Now I think I will get it in the database in about 1-2 hours. You just made my day :-)
@DavidCarlisle yes. I checked. THis is very strange. I have a feeling the process that gets spawned to process the htlatex command does not find $HOME. This always worked. I send email to tex4ht mailing list. May be something broke in tex4ht latest TL update I did 3 days ago.
configuring tex4ht is always a nightmare. tex4ht.env file is like black magic also. I never understood this file.
Hi guys. What's the best way to specify French quote characters? Using latex commands or the quote character direct from the keyboard? It seems the text needs to be separated from the mark with a non-breaking space (fine).
Using "some text" would be easier. I specified a french style to csquotes and included babel with frenchb, but got no changes.
@wget I never really use csquotes (normally use of " is an error in latex of course) I just had a quick look and it seems to have commands to define language-specific quote behaviour so you could specify ~ and \guillemotleft/right as needed?
@JosephWright I've my own class file, and I'm thus not precising the language as a class option to article, but directly to babel. But yes, indeed enquote works fine.
@FaheemMitha Red outline? There is no red outline anywhere. With pdflatex I get a gradient fill, from grey at the top to white at the bottom. With xelatex I get just a grey bar at the bottom, no gradient.
@FaheemMitha Don't know the details, the driver doesn't support it I guess. @JosephWright may be able to explain better. (Why TikZ shadings doesn't work with XeTeX.)
@TorbjørnT. Isn't shading done using a PDF directive that isn't available going viaxdvipdfmx? I've not checked all of the details but certainly classical EPS-based routes are limited in this way
@DavidCarlisle I am starting to think may be linux mint 7.1 is broke ;) I just found that my makefile on this new box does not expand wildcard, like this
rm -f $(wildcard *.htme)
which works fine on my other linux 32 box. (not same mint version). So I end up having to delete all these files by hand afterwords. This is very strange. May be I should switch to fedora linux
@DavidCarlisle No, this is all new installation, brand new, from DVD. installed new linux mint downloaded from the web. 7.1 did not change anything.
@DavidCarlisle Michal just answered me on mailing list. I need to set $TEXINPUTS !! for htlatex to look for .cfg (which I deleted). How do you like that.
@michal.h21 thanks for your help with .cfg issue. I deleted my $TEXINPUTS earlier and forgot it is used by htlatex.
@JosephWright I wanted to define my class file to make my documents like it was a markdown-like, so with less markup as possible. But, yes, \enquote did the trick. I assume any way we can switch languages in the document if I had to write English text in some parts of it.
@Nasser hmm probably it ought to be compiled against the tl libraries (as you found for dvisvgm) so that it uses the default TL search paths set in texmf.cnf and not need an environment (unless you mean you just need to set it as the cfg is not in adefault texmf search tree)
@Nasser but why put the tex4ht config files directly in your home directory rather than in the default tex search path? Do you put latex packages there as well?
@wget verb is standard latex so doesn't need any packages. lstinline comes from listings package and does syntax highlighting
@DavidCarlisle well, I guess I always put the .cfg in my home folder. I did not know better. But will look into using the default tex search path. good idea. thanks
@FaheemMitha Christian Feuersänger and Mark Wibrow both stop by from time to time, cjorssen has also done some work on PGF/TikZ. They don't frequent the chat though.
@moose you need the font to be in web font format and served from somewhere you really don't want to mess with classically encoded tex fonts on the web if you can avoid it, using a unicode font like stix will make life much easier
@DavidCarlisle Thanks for the hint! I now got it to work locally. Does stix have the Pluto symbol I showed in stackoverflow.com/q/28674012/562769? If not, I need to use the marvosym. What is the problem of using it on the web?
@moose this looks good as well: w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_font-face_rule.asp But other than that, of course you should use the proper unicode positions for the symbol. @DavidCarlisle knows them all.
@yo' but that's the problem an 8bit font line marvosym probably just (ab)uses the latin1 slots and doesn't have unicode associations ♇ is pluto but that doesn't help if marvosym doesn't think it has that slot
@DavidCarlisle I have marvosym in TTF. I converted it to WOFF. I am currently writing an email to Martin Vogel to ask if I am allowed to upload the WOFF file (as I could not find any license on marvosym.de )
marvosym faq says this which doesn't really count as a licence these days sadly: Why is your font free? Because I just wanted to have a bit of weekend fun dabbling at font design! I didn't think anyone other than me would want it, and I am a bit surprised at the download count. :-)
Martin Vogel just answered (that was fast!). marvosym is licensed under SIL Open Font License (scripts.sil.org/OFL). This is stated in the readme of the ZIP file (I have downloaded it from another source where it was not stated)
@yo' I didn't ask directly, but I explained him what I wanted to do. He didn't directly tell me that it is allowed, but indirectly by asking me to inform him if the conversion to WOFF worked. I hope it is ok this way.
I am pretty sure it is allowed: "It enables font authors to release their work under a common license that allows use, bundling, modification and redistribution."
I think that is covered by 'modification' and redistribution, isn't it?
@moose but there's a "rename if you modify" clause somewhere. So it's not clear whether you can call the WOFF file still Marvosym or whether it has to be "Moses' Marvosym in WOFF" :D
@yo' Ah, ok ... god, I hate license stuff (that's why I put almost everything I do under CC0 / MIT license). I will ask him. Thanks for pointing this possible problem out!
@DavidCarlisle CC0 for images and MIT for software. Basically I only want to say for my stuff: "Use it if you like, give credits if you like (although I appreciate it), don't sue me if something breaks"
@moose oh OK, note latex used not to have anything like LPPL, but it meant people could (did) edit in place, so your expectation that a document that worked in one place would work somewhere else broke. So such a licence is Ok for software people just run transiently (like editors) but doesn't really work for software that has an expectation of producing the same results on different installations.
@yo' yes but you can dual licence things. That is often needed because the licences are incompatible.
@moose -- stix should have pluto (U+2647). there's a table showing what's in the stix fonts linked from ams.org/STIX . some cleanup is needed since the locations of "extra" symbols in the pua aren't properly identified; part of that code range was rearranged without my knowledge or participation. (it's on my list.)
This is how I compile my latex+tex4ht files now: I copy the files from windows PC to stick USB, take the stick to the Linux PC, read them, compiles them on linux, copy them back to the stick, move it back the windows PC and replace my old folder with the new build. On linux, the build takes 20 minutes. On VBox under windows, may be full day.
@DavidCarlisle this is just a temporary measure, until I can figure a way to share my data more easily between windows and linux PC. Currently, the window PC is my living room and the linux PC is in my kitchen, so it is not too much walking for me. But it saves me lots of time doing it this way.
@TorbjørnT. Woops ... yes, I did a lot of cleanup. I should probably point out that \Pluto is not one of the 369 symbols my classifier currently recognizes, so I did not focus on cleaning it up.
@moose -- ah, okay; i was looking at the wrong link. i think the symbol you want isn't actually in unicode. however, this is a situation where unicode almost certainly would accept a request for a second version, albeit perhaps using a variation selector. if you can provide a reference to its use in document published by a "recognized" publisher, i'll be happy to submit it.
@TorbjørnT. I just cleaned it up. Thanks for mentioning it
Wow, that's cool :-) I'm sorry, I currently can't give you any documents with that symbol. On my todo-list is parsing the arXiv. When I do this I will very likely have plenty of references for all kinds of symbols. But I am sure it will take at least 2 months to get there.
Should I write you an email when I have the references? (What is your address?)
@michal.h21 thanks, will look into that. The speed difference is amazing though. With your help in optimizing the build and with using Linux directly instead of vbox, what used to take 4 days now takes less than 30 minutes.
@moose -- it takes me a while (obviously) to get around to finishing some things too. when you have something to report, feel free to send it to me; e-mail address is on my profile page.
@JosephWright depends who's doing the encouraging. If you have some code even if it is very unrestricted (mit in my case) then if someone wants to incorporate it in a larger project (eg mathjax apache2 licenced) then either they need to start listing which files are licenced under which licence or you agree do dual licence it under apache so they take it under that and keep the project under a single licence.... then mozilla wants to use part of it in firefox...
here is the current web page of the build: all done using latex+tex4ht. Used SVG for the math now, which makes the math looks better, and it seems to load faster in the browser also compared to .png for some reason. Which is a extra benefit that I did not expect. 12000.org/my_notes/CAS_integration_tests/index.htm
@JosephWright I can do that but then it is harder for the accepting project to be obviously conformant, as the files they are copying say MIT licenced on them, It is much easier (since they dynamically pull in any upstream updates) if the files they are pulling say they are apache licenced.
I am wondering why AMSart which reputedly supports sectioning and chaptering doesn't compile my chapter headings at all. I have a non-working example here which shows that neither the section nor the chapter command works. Can someone help figure out how to put chapters and sections in there? Tha...
@DavidCarlisle, @egreg -- i want to go back to this one: amsbook improvement. (how do you manage to get the actual question to show up here???) problem: when the problematic code is patched with \patchcmd, the result is good, but when instead i insert the entire updated definition in the test file, the \chaptername comes out lowercase. i guess the timing may be interaction with babel, but i'd like some guidance here.
Today it was the first time I tried amsbook class and I noticed a (possible?) bug (or should I say incompatibility?)
babel with brazil option translates Chapter to Capítulo. So note the accented letter.
Well, amsbook class produces CAPíTULO.
Checking line 990 in amsbook.cls we find
\uppercas...
(actually, you can include the reply prefix :12345678 (or hit the gray arrow) to make it as a reply to somebody, but you can't ping them directly by @somebody)
@barbarabeeton I would guess you did \MakeUppercase\@xp{\chaptername}\enspace\thechapter} but either you need an extra \@xp at the front or no \@xp at all.
@DavidCarlisle and @egreg -- using pdftex, tex live 2012, with dvi output, but i don't think that should make any difference. (but i know you'll let me know if it does.) what i'm looking for here is a "permanent" fix, for when all these document classes finally get upgraded. and i'd really prefer a fix that allows the \'{\i} input since our production system is still based on bibtex and dvi (the latter so that graphics can be checked automatically; can't do that once everything is one big pdf).
@DavidCarlisle -- okay, let me try with an extra \@xp.
-- okay, removing the `\@xp` does have the desired effect. thanks much. but how come this worked (it didn't remove the `\@xp`): \makeatletter \patchcmd{\@makechapterhead}% {\uppercase}{\MakeUppercase}% {}{} \makeatother
@barbarabeeton It can't have worked:-) in \uppercase\expandafter{\chaptername} the \chaptername is expanded once then uppercased. in \MakeUppercase\expandafter{\chaptername} the argument to \MakeUppercase is just \expandafter so not much happens, then {\chaptername} is typeset as it is.
@barbarabeeton egreg's answer to that question has
@DavidCarlisle -- okay; i managed to space over that part of the answer. but the "simplified" version did work when i tested it here. honest! would the fact that i added \usepackage{etoolbox} have made that difference?
@DavidCarlisle -- okay then. i'll just have to assume that something unidentified has changed since tex live 2012. my present task is just to compile reliable test files to be applied when the time does come. everything will have to be retested then anyhow. thanks.
@egreg -- although i can't figure out what i did when i tested it earlier, i did find that the timestamp on (what i thought was) the "authoritative" test file was later than the output with the correctly uppercased \chaptername. so, case closed. thanks. (and i do now have a good test file.)
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@DavidCarlisle Minor proviso: I've not covered accents such as \' 'out of the box' so they need to be made engine robust or I'd need another test to pick them up
@yo' ah for that you can have multiple beautifully documented dtx files which unpack to the same .cls just as latex.ltx is generated from many separate dtx
@DavidCarlisle not that I really enjoy dtx, it seems to me that often the documentation gets a bit grotesque. I prefer a true documentation of the features, and a direct documentation of the sourcecode, one as a PDF and one as comments in the code.
@DavidCarlisle surely in the end I'll change the \inputs to the code of the subfiles by a script, there's no need for distributing the files separately :)
@JosephWright Is there any equivalent of leaders and rule in L3?
I am using the INFORMS style file (https://www.informs.org/Find-Research-Publications/INFORMS-Journals/Author-Portal/LaTeX-Style-Files) .
I need to write a algorithm and I found that the algorithm package is not included as a part of the style file and I wanted to use it.
I could not find anyt...
@JosephWright I am never quite sure, when it is such a borderline case. Where the only answer would be, we are not the guys to decide (OT?) or Oh no, possible, but don't do it!! (too broad). :-)
@yo' actually your example has accents all over the place which means not supporting that in the class options is a good idea. You need to have `\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} before that or things will go very wrong, and it's a bit unnatural to have that before the document class options
@DavidCarlisle well, I know, that's one of the reasons why I decided to restructure it, and hope users will issue \ctuprocess at the riight place. If not, L3 error will explain them :-)
@DavidCarlisle that's what I do of course :-) actually, the class itself currently loads only couple packages:
\RequirePackage{expl3,l3keys2e}
\RequirePackage{environ}
\RequirePackage{xparse}
\RequirePackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\ProvidesExplClass{ctuthesis}{2014/01/18}{0.1}{Class for typesetting CTU theses and alike}
... (a lot of stuff here) ...
% Load the report class
\LoadClassWithOptions [,
\tl_use:N \g_ctuthesis_fontsize_tl % fontsize option
] { book }
all the rest of the stuff got moved into \ctuprocess.
@DavidCarlisle ummmm, maybe? I actually thought of getting around it somehow. I don't have that much Czech text directly in the class (basically just names of the faculties and departments), so I could "\\' \\v" them. And then test whether inputenc has been loaded, and if yes, don't load it again. These people could then use \RequirePackage[cp1250]{inputenc} \documentclass{ctuthesis}
@yo' if you make all the 8bit characters active and \let to their non active selves , then you could use accented letters in your setup keys before or after inputenc, so long as inputenc was loaded by the time you typeset anything.
@yo' if your class doesn't load inputenc that will be very wrong if inputenc is loaded after the setup unless the class has already made the characters active
@DavidCarlisle I do load inputenc. I just say I will opt for \@ifpackageloaded{inputenc}{}{\RequirePackage[utf8]{inputenc}} -- this will keep the option for the users to use another encoding, as long as I go stricly 7bit in the class itself.
@yo' actually I think simplest is if you load [utf8]{inputenc} as now and document if someone wants cp1250 they use \inputencoding{cp1250} in the preamble (rather than use inputenc again)
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[greek,english]{babel}
\newcommand{\Xgreektext}{%
\csname otherlanguage*\endcsname{greek}%
}
\usepackage{tabularx}
\begin{document}
\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{>{\Xgreektext}X}
Η Αθήνα είναι η πρωτεύουσα
\end{tabularx}
\end{document}
It gives ! LaTeX Error: Command \textEta unavailable in encoding LGR.
@egreg yes is that a simplified version of the question on site earlier about ltablex? I was looking at that but got distracted by some output routine questions from Frank:-)
@yo' If \Xgreektext is at the start of the cell text it's OK, but the cell should be typeset in Greek without the need of adding the token manually each time.
@egreg yes looks like it's expanded while looking for omit decides to make an error but by the time it actually makes the error the current encoding is LGR so it says LGR in the error message (and shouldn't have made an error at all...)
@barbarabeeton The English cricket team is in need of a miracle
I'll think about it, because I'm afraid I mix setting the keys and doing the action that depends on them. I should probably just use .tl_set:c and sort things out after each \keys_set.
it's quite complex, because it was requested to be very versatile.
@JosephWright ok, I'll try not to do it. THe problem is that they are somehow "semi-hidden": If you write faculty=4, it automatically sets the name of the faculty F4 in all supported languages. Now if your faculty is not pre-defined, you need to be able to do that by hand.
@egreg yes once you start adding \protected the logical conclusion is to add them everywhere, if all the active 8bit characters were \protected you'd be back where you started. But anyway without etex the feeling back then was you had to accept bad behaviour at start of a cell or define \protect in a way that it leaves \relax and breaks ligatures/kerning
@egreg Hmm I don't need to try, I can guess:-) I wonder if I can get tabular to make that change but revert it in every cell, so it's only active while looking for \omit....
@egreg @JosephWright is so happy he can claim he only has to worry about characters that are really supported by the engine, not the smoke and mirrors of inputenc:-)
oh my! diving ducks on the local news! they cannot get food because there's too much ice covering where they would normally dive. :-( @PauloCereda the news anchor instructs: "If you see one of these ducks wandering around your neighborhood, please report it to the Humane Society."
Is there an easy way to have a \vrule extend symmetrically on both sides by a given amount? I mean, if I have the following code, how can I get the thin rule to extend, say, 10pt above and below its "natural" height?
@GonzaloMedina The height of a \vrule, if not specified, is determined when the paragraph is split into lines as the height of the box that ends up with it inside. So, no.
@GonzaloMedina nothing easy, in that case you know the 4cm is controlling the natural height, so you could just use a fixed \rule again but otherwise not much you can do
@GonzaloMedina If you are in a position where you have access to the list above the current line eg at start of a paragraph you can use \pdfsavepos\write\@auxout{..\pdflastypos} ...\rule...\vadjust{\pdfsavepos..} then the aux file has the y pos above and below the line so you can draw a rule next time (or \tikzmark is the same thing)
Today it was the first time I tried amsbook class and I noticed a (possible?) bug (or should I say incompatibility?)
babel with brazil option translates Chapter to Capítulo. So note the accented letter.
Well, amsbook class produces CAPíTULO.
Checking line 990 in amsbook.cls we find
\uppercas...
I am using the INFORMS style file (https://www.informs.org/Find-Research-Publications/INFORMS-Journals/Author-Portal/LaTeX-Style-Files) .
I need to write a algorithm and I found that the algorithm package is not included as a part of the style file and I wanted to use it.
I could not find anyt...
