TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2015-02-17 (page 1 of 2)

12:47 AM

Will a bounty be an adequate incentive for this question?

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/228282/table-apa6-class-rotating-with-caption-and-table-notes

David Carlisle

1:16 AM

@barbarabeeton you may be used to that, I never have overfull boxes, so I don't see it often:-)

@Jens bounties don't make so much difference to the regulars but anyway I just put an answer, not sure if that's what you wanted?

barbara beeton

1:50 AM

@DavidCarlisle -- it's okay. we know you never have to deal with the great unwashed population of authors submitting stuff to math journals. anyhow, you got my +1, even if you don't know how to spell "mechansm". (knowledge gap, not a typo, since you never make those.)

Jens

@DavidCarlisle I tried so many possibilities without success... still on a learning path...

@DavidCarlisle thanks a lot, this is awesome... your solution is quick and effective

barbara beeton

@SamWhited -- sadly, not visible to us "unwashed" emacs users.

@SamWhited -- well, i have as my excuse that i never would have learned tex if i hadn't learned emacs first. that's all that was available on sail (the stanford ai lab machine on which tex was first developed.)

barbara beeton

2:26 AM

@SamWhited -- a lot depends on what you consider ancient. to me, an ibm 650 is venerable, but not yet ancient. a marchant calculator is ancient.

Paulo Cereda

9:45 AM

@egreg: Hi! How are you feeling today?

Christian Hupfer

Good maen

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Hallo!

Marcus Junius Brutus

157 4

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Das Brasiliano :-P

Paulo Cereda

Et tu, Brute? ^^ :)

@ChristianHupfer LOL

People from Brasilia is brasiliense. :)

Rico

10:06 AM

@PauloCereda ohai!

Paulo Cereda

@Rico 'allo! :) Long time no see ya, buddy!

Labrador duck

The Labrador duck (Camptorhynchus labradorius) is an extinct North American bird. The Labrador Duck has the dubious distinction of being the first species among endemic North American birds to go extinct. It was already a rare duck before European settlers arrived and became extinct shortly after. As a result of its rarity, there is not an abundance of information on the Labrador Duck but there is some such as its habitat, characteristics, dietary habits, and reasons behind extinction. According to the Naturalis Museum there are 54 specimens of the Labrador Duck preserved in museum collections...

extinct North American bird :(

Rico

@PauloCereda sad but true, was very busy

Paulo Cereda

If a labrador is a dog that catches ducks, is a labrador duck a duck that catches dogs?

@Rico :)

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@Christian, @yo': Schnappi in Czech! ^^

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: That's mean :-(

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer <3

egreg

10:15 AM

@PauloCereda Well, I'm doing an exam, so not very well. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Oh. :)

We have a song to drive people mad: we start with 1 elephant bothers a lot of people, 2 elephants bother, bother a lot more! Then the pattern becomes n elephants bother a lot of people, n+1 elephants ((n+1) * bother) a lot more! (n = n+ 1). :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Something like 99 bottles of beer? ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Close, but way more annoying. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Un elefante si dondolava appeso al filo di una ragnatela e, ritenendo la cosa interessante, andò a chiamare un altro elefante. Due elefanti si dondolavano appesi al filo di una ragnatela e, ritenendo la cosa interessante, andarono a chiamare un altro elefante. Tre elefanti… /ad libitum/

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Brazil seems to be a strange, strange, strange,..... , strange country ;-)

Paulo Cereda

10:22 AM

@egreg ooooooooooh! <3

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@egreg This will be an epigraph in my thesis. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Very entertaining when you have six children in a car for a long trip. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg LOL

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Hopefully not your epitaph ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer I expect something along the lines of Here lies Paulo, quiet at last!. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: May I star that line :-P

@PauloCereda: Promised we do that, in Comic Sans :-P

Paulo Cereda

10:26 AM

@ChristianHupfer follow your heart. :)

@ChristianHupfer All caps, slanted and bold, with keming. Got it. :)

Christian Hupfer

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Hightech graves with spell checkers. :p

egreg

10:44 AM

@PauloCereda LOL

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Complaining, even beyond death ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer ^^ :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Das böse Cricketente :D

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer LOL I'm worried that I'll make you lose your German with my Das obsession. :)

daleif

So a user emailed me with a bug report for empheq. I could not repeat the error and asked for version numbers. Turned out he was using LaTeX files from '04/05. Huh?! Are there still people out there that are so far behind?

Christian Hupfer

10:59 AM

@PauloCereda: Just to annoy you ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Phew. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Just lost +2 rep... no downvote... perhaps a deleted edit I've done about a year ago.. I am in line with rep dividable by 5 again :D

Paulo Cereda

@daleif: Hi Lars! Would you mind if I ask you a TeX-related question? Blame Andrew Swann in the floor above. :)

Christian Hupfer

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Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer The universe is in balance again. :)

Christian Hupfer

11:06 AM

@PauloCereda: Yes, for god's sake ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Wait, what happened to ö in Comic Sans? No glyph! Boo!

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Later on.. I 've to buy some food ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer See ya! :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Not if I see you first :-P

Rico

@ChristianHupfer das ente? :D

Christian Hupfer

11:09 AM

@Rico: Just read the chat protocols and you'll know why :D

Rico

@ChristianHupfer oh, i see :D :D

Paulo Cereda

@Rico So you want to use die and kill my duck? You mean. :)

Rico

@PauloCereda you know german is pretty dangerous. by word and deed

Paulo Cereda

@Rico :)

daleif

@PauloCereda, now what? ;-)

Paulo Cereda

11:15 AM

@daleif Uh-oh. :) Would you be interested in teaching arara how to speak Danish? :)

daleif

Speak Danish? Hmm, I've never used arara, since latexmk fits all my needs. However I'm going to take a look at it in order to mention it in a talk.

But why speak Danish? Most Danes understand English

Paulo Cereda

@daleif No worries. :) I'm working on the documentation for the 4.0 version and I hope people enjoy it; the new version has a lot of improvements and new features. :)

daleif

We could pass it on to the Danish LaTeX comminity and ask them.

Paulo Cereda

@daleif Ah it would be a nice addition. :)

@daleif Oh thank you! Mind if I write you an email about it, so you could forward to the community?

[paulo@cambridge ~] $ arara -L ru
  __ _ _ __ __ _ _ __ __ _
 / _` | '__/ _` | '__/ _` |
| (_| | | | (_| | | | (_| |
 \__,_|_|  \__,_|_|  \__,_|

arara 3.0 - Крутой инструмент автоматизации TeX
Copyright (c) 2012, Paulo Roberto Massa Cereda
Все права защищены.

usage: arara [file [--log] [--verbose] [--timeout N] [--language L] |
             --help | --version]
 -h,--help             показать справочное сообщение
 -l,--log              вести журнал вывода
 -L,--language <arg>   установить язык приложения

@daleif: we even have a Russian version. ^^ :)

daleif

sure

Paulo Cereda

11:25 AM

@daleif Mange tak!

daleif

I would think most people here prefers the English version then we don't get these 'strange' translations that does not make much sense. Plus it is easier to ask for help when you know the English term

David Carlisle

hmm site read only?

Paulo Cereda

@daleif You are right. :) I opted for localization just as an attempt to make newbies more comfortable with the tool. The average Brazilian does not know a second language, and even the one who knows doesn't know it sufficiently.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda we've noticed that!

Paulo Cereda

@daleif: here's my talk at last year's UK-TUG user meeting, in case you are curious about the new features: vimeo.com/113328301 :) And the user manual is typeset with memoir, yay!

@DavidCarlisle Oh. /sob

David Carlisle

11:31 AM

@PauloCereda não se preocupe. Nem todo mundo pode ser tão impressionante como línguas estrangeiras como eu sou.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle HOLY COW 100% ACCURATE SENTENCE!

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda as I said.

daleif

@PauloCereda, it makes sense to localize for some languages and not for others. We don't have a Danish localization for the TL installer either.

Video link saved for later

Paulo Cereda

@daleif Interesting. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda it's the same in all the Scandinavian countries, they are far better at English than we are.

Paulo Cereda

11:35 AM

@DavidCarlisle ooh.

yo'

Hello, everybody! It the site down for a long time?

David Carlisle

@yo' twitter says We are looking into network issues now, stand by.

yo'

@DavidCarlisle ah so it's "down", not "down for maintenance" :D

Paul Gessler

We're back!

David Carlisle

@PaulGessler you are?

Paul Gessler

11:50 AM

@DavidCarlisle I can get to the site, that is. As for me personally - still missing. :-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Paul ~~McCartney~~ Gessler. :)

yo'

We apologize for any inconvenience, but an unexpected error occurred while you were browsing our site. It’s not you, it’s us. This is our fault. Detailed information about this error has automatically been recorded and we have been notified.

^^the best 500 ISE message ever :D

David Carlisle

@PaulGessler still read only here

Paulo Cereda

I already reach vote cap, so lalalalalala. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda same here but s/vote/rep/

Paul Gessler

11:53 AM

@DavidCarlisle yeah, it just went kaput on me again.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

yo'

We can start asking typical questions here in the chat: How do draw a dinosuar weering Captan Amerika PJs in TkiZ? I need tehz codze pleeeze.

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David Carlisle

It came back, it asked if i was human, then it told me I couldn't post as it was read only again.

yo'

@DavidCarlisle I smell a DNS problem here, actually. But I have no control of the DNS server above me and the one above this one and the one above that one, unfortunately :(

David Carlisle

@yo' perhaps but anyway there are still problems at their end: We have recovered from read-only mode, but are still tracking down an internal network issue causing errors for some users.

yo'

12:00 PM

@DavidCarlisle I need to confess, it's unbelievably cool that they tweet these messages. IMHO that's a PR job well done.

Paulo Cereda

12:18 PM

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@JosephWright: ^^ :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Ah, you've discovered Sarah and Duck

@PauloCereda My nephew has got more in to In the Night Garden recently: in the past he didn't really watch it but now he is

@PauloCereda Did you see they are remaking the Teletubbies?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright ooh! :)

@JosephWright Oh no! Really?

yo'

12:52 PM

@PauloCereda such a cute boyish accent! :) just the title is wrong, it should be Chňapík rather than Chnapik

Paulo Cereda

@yo' :)

yo'

and also, nice childish r, but actually much better than the one I have :(

anwyas, see ya later, it's coffee time :)

Rico

i recently switched to mac. now I'm still look for a proper editor to write my tex files. any suggestions?

David Carlisle

emacs, what else:-)

daleif

seconded.

Rico

12:59 PM

well. not emacs... :)

daleif

aquamacs should be quite Mac themed

Paulo Cereda

Motion adjourned.

@Rico MacVim. :)

Rico

@PauloCereda its a mac! it needs to look NICE! N.I.C.E as in NOT emacs and NOT vim ;)

daleif

1:14 PM

What is not nice about Emacs? Is it about looking hipster cool or getting work done?

Paulo Cereda

@Rico Word has a shiny interface in Mac, then. Go for it. :)

Or Pages, it's good too. :)

egreg

1:36 PM

Offline again. :(

yo'

2 hours ago, by yo'

We can start asking typical questions here in the chat: How do draw a dinosuar weering Captan Amerika PJs in TkiZ? I need tehz codze pleeeze.

:)

egreg

We are taking our sites briefly offline to fix the issues we have been troubleshooting this morning.

Tweeted by StackStatus on February 17, 2015 at 1:35 PM

Paulo Cereda

We could start carving a canoe. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda or do some real work ;)

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Nah. <3

We iz back!

wget

1:47 PM

HI guys. I'm trying to get rid of titlesec in my code. And decided to replace
`\titleformat{\section}{\normalfont\Large\bfseries}{\thesection}{1em}{}[{\titlerule[0.8pt]}`
by
`\let\originalsection\section
\renewcommand{\section}[1]{\originalsection{#1}\hrule[0.8]}`

but is \hrule standard to latex or defined by yet another lib I've included in my latex file?

yo'

@wget doesn't look correct. Why would you not want to use a good and powerful package?

@wget \hrule is a tex primitive and the syntax is completely different. Also, this doesn't look like a good idea since you add another paragraph after the section title. How do you make sure that it's not gonna move into the next page, and how are you gonna make the following paragraph unintended? titlesec solves all these problems for you.

@PauloCereda We is not:-/

Paulo Cereda

:)

@yo' Who the heck is playing with the on/off switch?!

yo'

@PauloCereda a bug?

Paulo Cereda

@yo' A very big bug. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda actually, it's a duck.

Oh what I did now...

Paulo Cereda

1:54 PM

:)

So I had this image in a paper of mine. A friend said, why do you have a hot dog measurement scheme in your paper?. Here's the image:

yo'

@PauloCereda standard full automaton on 3 states...

I just dunno who invented the idea of double-circling the final states ;)

Paulo Cereda

@yo' I wub you. <3

yo'

well, I usually draw it as a triangle, but you have very long labels on some of the edges, so this seems to work better

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Matter of choice, actually (I'm used to it from Hopcroft). Some books use a out arrow. :)

yo'

i know it's just Mardi Gras, but I'm already getting ready for Passion: listening to Jesus Christ Superstar

wget

1:57 PM

@yo' Ok I rolled back again. ;-)
Avoiding the next paragraph to be intended? I didn't know it was the role of titlesec, but parskip instead.

Paulo Cereda

@yo' ooh! :)

yo'

@PauloCereda that's what I prefer, especially since we often have an output function. As well, automata transposition is there just reversal of all the arrows ;)

@wget well, that's the role of the \section macro. But if the first paragraph after the section is your rule, then you have to tweak it to make it work (there's some macro in LaTeX2e for it II think)

@PauloCereda it's with the scripts as well, and some parts are really dense I tell you. Not good if you're depressed.

online now. I give it 15 minutes :D

Paulo Cereda

@yo' :)

Johannes_B

@Rico Getting work done, i don't care if i use ugly tools, or get a bit dirty or even smell a bit, as long as the result is nice and good looking. Same with my editor :-p

Rico

2:13 PM

@Johannes_B wise words

Johannes_B

@Rico They just spill out of me, can't stop it. :-)

David Carlisle

@wget the standard heading code prevents a page break after the heading, controls indentation of the following paragraph and discourages page breaks after the first line of that paragraph. You need to be very careful adding code after the heading or chances are you'll break one or all of those.

Johannes_B

@Rico Wennde ein Baby aufm Arm hast, isses ganz wichtig, bloß nich fallen lassen.

Anybody in the mood for testing if this is really a bug? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/119635/…

Joseph Wright

2:30 PM

@DavidCarlisle Still no green light

David Carlisle

@JosephWright no not as much mail as I hoped

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Hmm

David Carlisle

@JosephWright but we have eaten lots of pancakes, so it's not all bad

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I'll probably have the expl3 case changing updated again before we hear anything!

@DavidCarlisle Cool

@DavidCarlisle Had my mum/sister/nephew over for the weekend up to this morning, but no pancakes for me until Saturday

wget

Do you know how I can add a dot after a chapter number.
I'm using \renewcommand{\thechapter}{\@arabic\c@chapter.} for the chapters, but when using an appendix, the numbering isn't suffixed by a dot. Any idea?
ex.: 1.1. --> the first 1 is followed by a dot, but not in A1.

David Carlisle

2:33 PM

@wget \appendix does \gdef\thechapter{\@Alph\c@chapter}} and sets it back (that's just about all it does:-)

@wget why the @ form not \renewcommand{\thechapter}{\arabic{chapter}.} ?

wget

@DavidCarlisle Good question ;-) I found some doc about that a few times ago. And used my way. But yours is working too. If you have an idea about the differences?
I thought the @ form is using TeX primitives, while yours is using the LaTeX interface right?

Btw, I don't know why having redefined \thechapter with
\renewcommand{\thechapter}{\arabic{chapter}.}
appendix does not take that redefinition into account, since as you said, it basically does \gdef\thechapter{\@Alph\c@chapter}}

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle f-type expandability for case changing is requiring a bit of effort but I think the result will be better code :-)

yo'

@JosephWright I just hope that \Uppercase{Sněžných skútrů} won't break it :D

Joseph Wright

@yo' Current test version gives me SNĚŽNÝCH SKÚTRŮ (with LuaTeX/XeTeX): this one is easy as there are no context dependencies, LICR, expansion, etc. (I hope!)

@yo' The core idea is easy, it's the fiddly bits (which is what I'm reworking, plus improving some code logic)

Johannes_B

OT? Look at the date

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Q: Adding program listings using QR/Data Matrix

I apologize that this is not strictly a LaTeX question, but I thought this StackExchange would be most suitable; all of what I describe below is done in LaTeX, BTW. In my thesis I want to make sure that certain examples are illustrated with attached code; while I could put the code as files on m...

classicthesis

yo'

2:53 PM

@JosephWright well, there's the important "with utf-8 engines" of course ;)

Paul Gessler

@Johannes_B how dare you reject a question from the "ANSI C Mastah"?! ;-)

Johannes_B

@PaulGessler It is quite interesting to discuss if this is doable/usable/advisable, and can be answered by »Just \includegraphics those damn images«, but really? OT

@PaulGessler Fertig, aus ;-)

Joseph Wright

@yo' Yes, but that's not a change and is documented

@yo' Works within the limitations I know about (and will document) for pdfTeX:

\robustify\IeC
\robustify\'
\robustify\v
\robustify\r
\protected@edef\test{Sněžných~skútrů}\show\test
\edef\test{\tl_upper_case:n{\test}}\show\test

gives

> \test=macro:
->Sn\IeC {\v e}\IeC {\v z}n\IeC {\'y}ch sk\IeC {\'u}tr\IeC {\r u}.
l.304 ...edef\test{Sněžných~skútrů}\show\test

?
> \test=macro:
->SN\IeC {\v E}\IeC {\v Z}N\IeC {\'Y}CH SK\IeC {\'U}TR\IeC {\r U}.

Johannes_B

@JosephWright tex.stackexchange.com/questions/228624/…

Joseph Wright

@yo' I'm not about to try to code all of inputenc for case changing expandably with pdfTeX

@Johannes_B Do you understand the question?

Johannes_B

3:05 PM

@JosephWright Not sure :-D Look at my edit-comment.

Joseph Wright

@yo' I hope the 'it's got to be Unicode' position is reasonable for new code: I am going to make sure LICR works!

StrongBad

In pgfplotI would like to be able to do ytick={\pgfkeysvalueof{/pgfplots/ymin},\pgfkeysvalueof{/pgfplots/ymin}+50,...,\‌pgfkeysvalueof{/pgfplots/ymax}} but I cannot get it to compile. Am I missing something obvious and has it been asked before?

yo'

3:35 PM

@JosephWright I understand it :)

Rico

@Johannes_B ok? zusammenhang?

Johannes_B

@Rico Apparently i once said that, but i can't remember. But it is another example of wise words :-p

Rico

@Johannes_B oh! Right!

yo'

@Joseph but it's nice that there's a reasonable level of compatibility with [utf8]{inputenc}

Rico

@Johannes_B your baby will appreciate it

Joseph Wright

3:43 PM

@yo' That's the plan: I'm working on it!

Johannes_B

@Rico I guess so :-)

yo'

@JosephWright you're our hero! :)

Adelyn

@PaulGessler Can you help me with my post Convert from rectangular coordinates to polar coordinates?

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn do you have a link?

Adelyn

@PaulGessler Sure. One minute.

@PaulGessler tex.stackexchange.com/questions/227531/…

@PaulGessler This is an analogous posting to which you had responded in January.

Johannes_B

3:52 PM

I am jusst scrolling through unanswered classicthesis Qs. So far, i didn't understand a single one of them, most are aasking for LyX stuff.

Adelyn

@PaulGessler The post in January was about placing points on the Cartestian plane using rectangular coordinates. This post in February was about placing points on the Cartestian plane using polar coordinates.

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn I don't understand what you want at all. You ask about not defining the radius of the circle in terms of the metric system. But in your MWE (which has a lot of extraneous stuff in it, by the way), the circle's radius is not defined in terms of metric units!

Christian Hupfer

@PaulGessler: Think of the banana guy as an unsung hero ;-) @Johannes_B

Paul Gessler

@ChristianHupfer ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer tex.stackexchange.com/…

Is »I don't know how to unzip« on-topic here?

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Q: How to add templates to TeXmaker?

I´ll start my thesis and i found some nice templates here: sharelatex. By the way i dont get how to add the zip file of the template to teXmaker. Could anybody help me with this issue?

texmaker templates classicthesis thesis

Christian Hupfer

4:00 PM

The unsung hero badge, awarded to the banana guy

Adelyn

@PaulGessler I use the command \draw (0,1) circle (1); to draw the circle. Doesn't that use the units of the axis environment?

Paul Gessler

@ChristianHupfer so far this badge is impossible to achieve here. :-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Perhaps... on Unzip.SE it's on topic

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer :-)

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn yes, but what does that have to do with the metric system?

Adelyn

4:05 PM

@PaulGessler Oh. Sorry. Some people replied with specifying point B using the metric system. So, I was specifically saying not to use the metric system.

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn and I am specifically saying, "it is not using the metric system", so where is the problem?

Adelyn

@PaulGessler I have TikZ draw a circle centered not at the origin. I want to specify points on the circle in polar coordinates.

@PaulGessler If the circle is centered at the origin, it is typical coding.

@PaulGessler In this case, though, the circle is not centered at the origin.

Paul Gessler

I still don't see what that has to do with anything you've mentioned in your question

Christian Hupfer

@PaulGessler: I know, nobody has achieved it so far (and probably no one will get it, not even me )

Paul Gessler

Look! It's @PaulMcCartney!

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Q: How to sort citations by name with biblatex 'sortcites' option

In my MWE below, I sort my bibliography with the nyt option (name-year-title), cf. the biblatex manual under 3.1.2.1 General. Then I also include sortcites = true, which according to the manual will "sort citations if multiple entry keys are passed to a citation command. If this option is enabled...

biblatex sorting

Adelyn

4:13 PM

@PaulGessler In my code, I specify the three points in rectangular coordinates so that people can compile the code and see the points. What I want is to have code that is something like "A=(1, \pi/5)" to plot a point that is 72 degrees from the line y=1.

@PaulGessler What is important now is for you to understand what I want to code. I think that this is code that people using TikZ would want to know how to do.

@PaulGessler One person, Harish Kumar, had suggested using a scopeenvironment. He knew what I wanted, he just didn't know how to "move the scope environment" so that the center of the circle was at (0,1).

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: One for you :-P

0

Q: Changing math font in Classicthesis

I'm using the popular Classicthesis template for my thesis. I like almost everything of this template apart from the math font (it should be the one loaded with Mathpazo) and since I have to write lots of formulae, I'd like to restore the classic modern font. So my question is the following: ho...

fonts math-mode classicthesis

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I know you have a doctors degree ... Can you please lick a frog, or smoke some weed or let your fiancee whack you in the head till you feel dumber than a piece of bread? Please read golatex.de/viewtopic,p,54294.html#54294 and tell me where it is unclear.

@ChristianHupfer Weisde, da versuchsde aufzuräumen, und dann kommt der nächste und macht Spittel. Das regt mich auf.

Adelyn

4:29 PM

@PaulGessler Do you know what I am looking for in the code now?

@PaulGessler I have a circle centered at (0,1). I want to specify points on this circle of radius 1 using the axis environment.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: I'll will have a look on your essay

Adelyn

4:44 PM

@PaulGessler Are you there?

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn as far as I can tell, it's not possible, I believe because pgfplots overloads : for coordinate systems while it would be needed to specify polar coordinates in the traditional TikZ way.

@Adelyn I've said this before: you are using pgfplots but fighting it tooth and nail to control all of the things it tries to handle automatically. You could get identical diagrams (probably with less code) by just using TikZ on its own and leaving pgfplots out of it.

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I wouldn't call it essay, but thanks. Reason for my rage was golatex.de/viewtopic,p,69040.html#69040

Adelyn

@PaulGessler All I want is the axis environment. Can I plot the axes and use just TikZ to get the circle with the points on it specified?

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn I need to get back to other things now, sorry. That might be possible, but because pgfplots does scaling of its unit vectors (to fit the plotted data), you'd need a way to pass that information out of the axis environment. And that's not something I wish to spend time figuring out.

Adelyn

@PaulGessler OK.

@PaulGessler I will just plot points the way that I have plotted them in the posted code.

Paul Gessler

5:01 PM

@Adelyn A related question that never got an answer:

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Q: drawing lines using polar axis coordinate system in pgfplots

I would like to draw arrows with polar axis notation in a pgfplots figure that has Cartesian axes with the draw command: \draw[->] (polar axis cs:radius=1, angle=30) -- (polar axis cs:radius=2, angle=30); I could not find any way to do something like this in the documentation. Are polar coordi...

tikz-pgf pgfplots

Christian Hupfer

Till later on

yo'

do we have a canonical dupe for \binom{}{} question?

David Carlisle

@wget how could it?

@JosephWright as much effort as getting the bike out first time this year? :-) (Nice day for it, though)

yo'

@DavidCarlisle haha, first time. I've spent 15 hours this year on bike :) (according to the account statement, but to me it seems that a lot of journeys are missing).

David Carlisle

5:18 PM

@yo' was a time a cycled to work everyday but that would be a bit tiresome from here, so I'm a bit out of practice, but today's really sunny and cold and it seemed like a bike was the thing to be on:-)

yo'

@DavidCarlisle here it's grey and drizzling, but I took the bike anyways :)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :-)

yo'

@ChristianHupfer I presonally prefer \binom{}{} for 2d vectors.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright do you have the case changing in hand, or do you want to bounce a test case around for ideas?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle All in hand: just need to finish the work to make it f-type expandable (this shows up with nesting, for example)

@DavidCarlisle More tedious than anything: it's all doable!

@DavidCarlisle There will be quite a lot of lines to change as well as comments, so it's more-or-less a rewrite of that idea (although in reality most of the stuff is the same)

@DavidCarlisle I stumbled across the issue when I tried to nest: this hangs at present I think as a token-by-token expansion ends up putting a quark somewhere is shouldn't (when doing the LICR part of the code, but still needs fixing)

@DavidCarlisle I did a few tests with LuaTeX: the unicode code there doesn't seem to know about contextual changes or indeed even simple cases like the Eszett business! I guess it actually does case folding.

David Carlisle

5:31 PM

@JosephWright you mean the lua unicode functions?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes

David Carlisle

@JosephWright so your work has purpose even if we go the context way and switch to luatex:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Hans has mentioned LuaTeX ending up with its own Unicode support and of course I've not check Lua 5.3 (not yet in LuaTeX), but certainly at the moment you can't just use the Lua code without care

Adelyn

@PaulGessler I have two similar posts. Only one person, Harish Kumar, offered code to one of them that used mostly the axis environment. He had to use some yshift commands to get the circle centered at (0,1). The only other responses involved other environments.

@PaulGessler The post you suggested is from a year ago. Nobody answered it, as you said.

@PaulGessler Here is a link to my other post, in case you are interested. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/226767/…

Joseph Wright

5:47 PM

@DavidCarlisle I think for upper/lower I've got everything bar LICR sorted: mixed case is still to do. Probably not enough time this evening to get it all done but I'd hope to be finished tomorrow.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright This seems odd:

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A: Bug in fontenc (or libertine)?

The difference is due to OT1: .\OT1/LinuxLibertineT-TOsF/m/n/13 i .\OT1/LinuxLibertineT-TOsF/m/n/13 n .\OT1/LinuxLibertineT-TOsF/m/n/13 g .\OT1/LinuxLibertineT-TOsF/m/n/13 . .\glue 3.7921 plus 4.875 minus 0.36096 .\OT1/LinuxLibertineT-TOsF/m/n/13 (ligature Th) .\OT1/LinuxLibertineT-TOsF/m/n/13...

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes

@DavidCarlisle Issue with the T1 version of the font? (I assume T1 should have the ligature here)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright I suppose so although Th ligatures aren't that common are they?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Just checking CM: doesn't seem to have the ligature in either OT1 or T1

egreg

@DavidCarlisle The Th ligature is what I dislike the most in Libertine fonts.

David Carlisle

5:57 PM

@egreg use T1 encoding then, it seems.

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Is anybody reporting this ligature thing to the maintainers?

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B well what is there to report. If you use T1 instead of OT1 you expect to get different ligatures and kerns, although typically you get more not less.

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer One for you latex-community.org/forum/…

@DavidCarlisle Maybe reporting is the wrong word, rather asking, was this happening by accident or on purpose?

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B @egreg seems to know more about this:-)

yo'

@DavidCarlisle The Th ligature is a matter of language in which you typeset, I'd say, or even the origin of the word.

David Carlisle

6:05 PM

@yo' it would be less surprising if it was in T1 but not OT1

yo'

@DavidCarlisle I try not to be surprised with LaTeX ;)

Paul Gessler

@Adelyn on the main site, the @-ping only works if the user you're pinging owns or has previously edited the post. So I did not see your comments there at all, sorry. :-(

Torbjørn T.

7:08 PM

@Adelyn Sorry if you've stated this already, but why do you insist on using the axis environment?

Paul Gessler

@TorbjørnT. no one knows... :-)

@egreg do you dislike Th ligatures in general or specifically the one in Libertine? (Just curious.)

egreg

@PaulGessler In Libertine, mostly.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: I had the most epic idea for a UK-TUG beamer template! Hold the phone. :)

Christian Hupfer

7:39 PM

@Johannes_B: Why is that one for me?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I didn't want to take care of a question of this kind, @StefanKottwitz answered that question already.

Adam Liter

7:55 PM

@PauloCereda: oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/phone__.jpg

Paulo Cereda

@AdamLiter LOL

Adam Liter

8:15 PM

@PauloCereda How is version 4 coming along?

Paulo Cereda

@AdamLiter Stuck in the manual. :(

Adam Liter

8:30 PM

@PauloCereda Do you have to rewrite most of it? :(

Paulo Cereda

@AdamLiter I actually do need to rewrite it completely. :(

Adam Liter

@PauloCereda That's unfortunate. :/ Is any of it fun to write?

Paulo Cereda

@AdamLiter I need to write in English, and there have to be sentences that make sense!

:P

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda write it in Portuguese, and I'll translate it for you.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh! :)

Johannes_B

8:43 PM

\documentclass{book}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname-test.tex}
\chapter{included file}
\end{filecontents}
\begin{document}
\tableofcontents
\chapter[Chapter Title]{Chapter Title}
\backmatter
\addtocontents{toc}{Test}
\include{\jobname-test}
\end{document}

@barbarabeeton mentions in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/228657/… that this is (poorly) documented, can anybody give me a pointer?

Adam Liter

@PauloCereda Ah, I see.

egreg

@PauloCereda It would be easier if you write it in German.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I can save a lot of spaces. :)

Das araradirektivenrulepattern!

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B it's poorly documented as you shouldn't be doing it anyway:-) but \addtocontents is a non-immediate write so it gets the page numbers correct, but that means it is held until the next page is output but before that \include switches the aux file to the local one for the chapter so things get out of sync

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle non-immediate write, thanks

David Carlisle

8:54 PM

@Johannes_B but you shouldn't have \addtocontents in the document really.

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle It was that question for add white space, barabra and i commented, c.f. link above.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B yes but it's like saying the way to change a chapter heading is to stick \vspace{3in}\Huge\bfseries somewhere in the document, it works but it's still wrong:-)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle In a semantic, or TeXnical way?

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B well both actually but mainly the first.

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle What would be better?

David Carlisle

8:59 PM

@Johannes_B the reason the spacing was wrong was that the numbered chapters were writing to the toc via \l@chapter which used suitable fonts and spacing. It is a design choice in book class that unnumbered chapters have no toc entry. So rather than changing that the OP added a basic text line to the toc which didn't match the class specified chapter entries so rather than fix that just added more ad hoc spacing

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