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cfr
cfr
1:01 AM
@DavidCarlisle Thanks. That was... er... amlwg... Having said that, clicking that button seems to have no effect...
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@cfr it worked:-)
 
cfr
cfr
Any idea why trying to use a pic twice does this?
@DavidCarlisle I didn't realise that I couldn't have text at the same time...
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@cfr ah
 
cfr
cfr
The first pic is at (50mm,0). The second is at (150mm,0). So it is not moving the pic from (0,0) per se. But using it twice?
Something to do with layers?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@cfr sorry I can't parse that at 1 in the morning
 
cfr
cfr
1:05 AM
@DavidCarlisle Me neither :(.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@cfr also you're not asking me a tikz question are you, that would be optimistic:-)
 
cfr
cfr
@DavidCarlisle Not you in particular, no. Just anyone. Including me.
Unfortunately, you and I are the only ones here...
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@cfr and I'm about to go, good night
 
cfr
cfr
@DavidCarlisle Nos da!
 
 
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percusse
percusse
2:16 AM
Holy cow. It took me four days to make a pretty printer for roots of polynomials in Python. Much Respect for the S column : ) 
Continuous Time Transfer function with: Poles located at
  Real Part       Imag Part
-------------  ---------------
 -101.49242        -36.94022
 -101.49242         36.94022
  -54.00299        -93.53592
  -54.00299         93.53592
   18.75504       -106.36512
   18.75504        106.36512
   82.73738        -69.42490
   82.73738         69.42490
  108.00597          0.00000
Should I remove the duplicate entries in the Real Part? Would that increase the readability?
@DavidCarlisle @Werner removed your cardpunch at 251 :)
So he is to blame.
 
 
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avghighschoolstudent
avghighschoolstudent
4:49 AM
you know how it's possible to clip pgfplots graphs, right? do you think it's possible to only clip them below the x axis?
 
 
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Werner
Werner
7:55 AM
@StefanKottwitz @JosephWright: I may have missed this, but was there any community consultation regarding Winterbash 2014 for TeX - LaTeX?
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Q: Do all sites have Winterbash?

WernerThe Winterbash FAQ mentions: I'm on Stack Overflow (or on one of a few other sites). Where are my hats? Users on these sites have to choose to opt-in individually. Just click the "Winter Bash" popup at the top and click "I love hats!", and you'll be able to earn hats and see other hat-lo...

support top-bar winterbash-2014 specific-site
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner We've never taken part
 
Werner
Werner
Huh?
Was there some question posed to the community about whether they'd be interested/not?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner No, this one is left to the mod team
@Werner In the past it was opt-in and it seemed quite frankly silly so we never did
 
Werner
Werner
@JosephWright Strange... because Winterbash is something that people within the community can turn off or on if they wish, making it fairly harmless.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner This year it was opt-out but as we've never opted in we stuck with the same position
 
Werner
Werner
8:03 AM
@JosephWright True it's somewhat silly...
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner If that was the position ignoring everything else it wouldn't be optional
 
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@Werner There wasn't much positive feedback on meta the first time we asked
 
Werner
Werner
...but they may have a duck as a hat one year...
...okay, that was silly.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@StefanKottwitz I think you are right
 
Werner
Werner
@StefanKottwitz On Meta.TeX.SE?
 
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
8:04 AM
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Q: Winter bash: why not here?

ViviI noticed that there is an end-of-year celebration going on in some SE websites called "winter bash". It consists of collecting hats which are granted if certain actions are undertaken. There is an image with a link that appears beside the StackExchange link on the top left-hand side of the scree...

feature-request
 
Werner
Werner
@StefanKottwitz Ahhh, I see.
@StefanKottwitz @JosephWright: Thanks for the prompt responses...
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
Good Morning @stefan, i see there was another post concerning subfloats.
I am tired, not only because i did not sleep much.
 
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@Johannes_B For this user, there's no hurry. For my side, I already told him that when he permanently cross posts I'm not feeling responsible to answer
just if I have time, I may
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@StefanKottwitz Indeed
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@StefanKottwitz I read it, actually, i read all the posts on LC, GoLaTeX and TeXwelt. And i guess at mrunix. There are just too many here to read them all.
 
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
8:26 AM
@Johannes_B The rain stops in Hamburg. I can go to work now. :-)
See you
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
8:56 AM
@Joseph: you better tell Nicola we won't have winter hats in this site. :P
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda I seem to remember that we had something like this in the past year. Pipes and sunglasses and stuff like that? Or was i dreaming?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B I think we had something, not sure if it was hats or stuff. I remember to have something that made my reputation grow by a huge factor, so I was the top user in this network. :P
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda I remember unicorn stuff on april 1st. :-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B oooh indeed, it was the wrong date! oopsie. :P
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
9:45 AM
@David: there's a new bounty in the site. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
10:07 AM
@PauloCereda tell @egreg I'm sure he'll be delighted!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle No. :)
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Traitor!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Oh no! :(
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda see, I said he'd be pleased
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle My feelings are hurt. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
10:09 AM
@PauloCereda You could always award it to Joseph to stop this squabbling
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg: I believe David is secretly a Madonna fan. :)
@DavidCarlisle Or I could award it to you to make things ever funnier. :)
@egreg, @David: I think the plan of awarding Joseph will be an epic plot twist. :) To make things more dramatic, let @SeanAllred decide. :)
Or I could award nobody and the rep is lost forever. :)
 
egreg
egreg
10:32 AM
@PauloCereda @DavidCarlisle will never catch me anyway. :P
@PauloCereda Although you're giving him fuel for overtaking Gonzalo.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Oh no!
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
10:45 AM
doesn't inspire me with confidence, I think I'll stick with picture mode: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/218030/…
 
 
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:01 PM
Yay, @robitex is here!
:)
@egreg: ^^
 
 
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Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
1:16 PM
hi
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
@PauloCereda A promise is a promise :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@SeanAllred :)
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
Also, I just want to go on record saying that perhaps D was not the best argspec-y thing for Do not use. How can I resist when \tex_end:D just looks so happy?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@SeanAllred LOL that's true. :)
Which reminds me of:
INTERCAL
The Compiler Language With No Pronounceable Acronym, abbreviated INTERCAL, is an esoteric programming language that was created as a parody by Don Woods and James M. Lyon, two Princeton University students, in 1972. It satirizes aspects of the various programming languages at the time, as well as the proliferation of proposed language constructs and notations in the 1960s. There are two currently maintained versions of INTERCAL: C-INTERCAL, formerly maintained by Eric S. Raymond, and CLC-INTERCAL, maintained by Claudio Calvelli. == History == According to the original manual by the authors, The...
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@SeanAllred: ^^ :)
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Best bit:
> INTERCAL has many other features designed to make it even more aesthetically unpleasing to the programmer: it uses statements such as "READ OUT", "IGNORE", "FORGET", and modifiers such as "PLEASE". This last keyword provides two reasons for the program's rejection by the compiler: if "PLEASE" does not appear often enough, the program is considered insufficiently polite, and the error message says this; if too often, the program could be rejected as excessively polite.
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Harish Kumar
Harish Kumar
Somebody please rescue me from here: tex.stackexchange.com/a/217993/11232. I am stuck and decided not to respond :(
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
1:30 PM
@HarishKumar It's that annoying user that's being impolite all the time, and not to mention crossposting a lot. So let's poke @JosephWright. :) You could teach him a lesson by "deleting" your answer. :P
 
Harish Kumar
Harish Kumar
@PauloCereda: I thought he is a newbie so attempted an answer. But he refuses to read even my answer!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@HarishKumar He's being very, very rude to a a lot of our regulars (I don't want advice, I want code), so I believe the best approach is to ignore. :)
That's why I suggested the deletion of your answer. :P Of course, I'm being evil with this approach. :)
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
@HarishKumar "I am out" Honestly, the most appropriate response. From a teaching perspective, solving all of OP's problems without any reciprocated effort is detrimental and universally frustrating.
It sounds mean, but he needs to suffer :(
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@HarishKumar he is not as new as it seems: he changes his account to erase a somewhat poor history. Just tell him that question is closed and to open a new question if he still has problems. Then ignore any other comments there.
 
Harish Kumar
Harish Kumar
@PauloCereda: I decided to ignore him. :)
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
1:41 PM
Oh is this the same guy?
 
Harish Kumar
Harish Kumar
@SeanAllred Certainly it is frustating when somebody doesn't even bother to read the answer to their question. :(
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@SeanAllred yep
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
@DavidCarlisle oh bother
 
Harish Kumar
Harish Kumar
@DavidCarlisle Good to know that. I will keep away from him :)
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
@HarishKumar :(
Is there anything staff could do about this guy?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
1:43 PM
This is clearly one of @egreg's students, you can see it in the style of math layout: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/218058/…
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@SeanAllred 100% agree.
@SeanAllred It is the same guy. I think one of us confronted him about the old username and he said, "He is my friend, we study together." :P
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
@PauloCereda BAHAHA gotta give points for thinking on the spot, but we aren't that dumb
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@SeanAllred Indeed. :)
 
Sean Allred
Sean Allred
The great thing about this community is that we're a community: we talk to each other. You can't really get one over on us like that.
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And with that, I've got to run to work. Good luck everyone!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@SeanAllred See ya, Sean! :)
 
egreg
egreg
1:47 PM
@DavidCarlisle :P (add the Italian word you know)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg LOL
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg vero (I've been studying)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle Wow!
 
tohecz
tohecz
2:12 PM
@PauloCereda Hi, sorry, I was already away...
@SeanAllred he'll get IP banned if he behaves really badly. Pity for his colleages / people who share IP with him.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
2:24 PM
@tohecz Mail sent. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
2:45 PM
@PauloCereda ok :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz It took several minutes for the mail dude to find Czech Republic in the list. :P
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda lol
was is under c, t or r?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Quite interesting. In Portuguese, it would be República Tcheca. We start browsing the list (there is no search feature). We went for the obvious choice, the exact match as one would expect to be in Portuguese: no results. We then went for the English name, Czech Republic: no results. Surpringly, we browsed the whole list to find out it was under Tcheca República. Grrrr. :)
It's amusing: there is no England nor United Kingdom. Only Great Britain. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda well, in France, it's listed as TCHEQUE (REPUBLIQUE) so you search for it under T
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz But it makes sense. :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
2:59 PM
Good maen
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
Hi @ChristianHupfer, seit 0:58 Uhr wieder stolzer Onkel.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Hallo Johannes, herzlichen Glückwunsch. Junge oder Mädchen?
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer girl
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda well, I think it's the same for your post: it's under T so that all republics are not under R
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Cute.... Make sure that she does not get into contact with boys until she is eighteen years old ;-)
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Johannes_B
Johannes_B
3:01 PM
@ChristianHupfer Her dad will take care of this, trust me ;-)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: ;-)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer Pakete wie tocloft und titlesec sind hochgradig inkompatibel mit KOMA-script. Das ist als würdest du nen Feinmechaniker mit ner Rohrzange prügeln.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Boo. :P
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Das kommt auf den Feinmechaniker an :D Vielleicht steht der ja drauf :-P
@Johannes_B: titlesec gehört auch nicht (mehr) in mein Repertoire ;-)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer I was controlled by my part-time-job supervisor today.
 
tohecz
tohecz
3:07 PM
@PauloCereda loo uh-oh
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz <3
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Why?
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer regular controls are normal. Somebody has to take a look.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: You mean your janitor job?
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer Jep
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:10 PM
@Johannes_B: Any feedback?
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer She was satisfied.
She was in a hurry, so she only saw 2 of nine objects.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Two of nine light bulbs? :-P
I prefer Seven of Nine :D
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer Advantage: I can change most lighbulbs without a ladder.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Are you that tall?
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer No, bout 190\,cm
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:13 PM
@Johannes_B Holy cow!
Do tell me what is tall. :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: I am only 183 cm...
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Wow!
\Huge dudes.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Johannes is \Huge, I am only \huge :D
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer LOL
I'm 172cm, I guess.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: That's..... \footnotesize :-P
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
3:16 PM
@paulo In one object, the light bulbs are about 4 meters up. if i could change thos without a ladder, that would be \HUGE
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer oy
:)
@Johannes_B LOL indeed!
 
cfr
cfr
@HarishKumar Same thing. I didn't realise when I answered that this was the same guy. Why does s/he keep posting links to the same unclear question on latex-community? Also, I have no idea what the comment about 'respect' is meant to be about!
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Sorry :D 172cm is not small
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer near you guys, I am. :)
Actually, I probably have 3cm more. :P
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Grow you must, mmmh :D (Yoda was speaking :D)
 
cfr
cfr
3:17 PM
Is there a question somewhere about setting up custom layers correctly? I thought I knew how to do this but I've discovered that my additions fail if used in pics...
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@cfr @HarishKumar The guy is currently under watch. It is the same guy as tex.stackexchange.com/users/67656/dasag
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer :)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@cfr If you by any chance can see deleted questions, have fun.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B (yes, +10k rep) :)
 
cfr
cfr
@Johannes_B I think so. Identical messages were posted on latex-community under that user name as on the accout @HarishKumar and I are talking about.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:19 PM
@cfr: That guy upset @DavidCarlisle already yesterday
 
cfr
cfr
I can't see deleted questions - only deleted answers.
@ChristianHupfer That guy (and his 'friend') is extremely frustrating, rude and... and... well, it wouldn't be polite.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr You can too, but they are not listed, so if you do not have the direct link, you can't find it. :(
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Only mods can see deleted questions (unsure if that is possible at all)
@PauloCereda: Good to know!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer Mods can see the list of deleted questions. :) 10k+ users can see deleted questions, but they are not listed. :)
@ChristianHupfer <3
 
cfr
cfr
@PauloCereda Actually, that's true. I've seen deleted questions when I've received a notification before the deletion but not checked it until afterwards.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:23 PM
@cfr ;)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: I feel discriminated :D
 
cfr
cfr
Custom layers in TiKZ?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer What did I do? :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda and you can see your own deleted questions, but there's no list of them, so you better save links to all your questions ASA you postt hem
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@cfr The list of annoyed people got quite big. It is under moderator attention already.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:24 PM
@tohecz ooh it's getting more and more complicated. :) I blame these tall people here. :P
 
cfr
cfr
@Johannes_B Good!
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Not you... mods can a lot of things I can't do... That's pure injustice, outraging... I demand more democracy :D
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer We can vote for you in a future election. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda but .. ... but I'm only 6'0" ... :-(
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Holy cow, you are tall! :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:26 PM
@PauloCereda: 1st I doubt I would be a good moderator (too few time for it) and 2nd: I don't think there will be a future election at all 3rd.... the three mod guys do the job, there is no need for another one
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
I had to ask Google to convert that too centimeters. :) I'm stoopid. :P
@ChristianHupfer That's why I said future election. :) We don't need more people, J, M and S are the Holy Moderation Trinity. :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Yes, you shall count to three and only to three :D
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda I had to ask google to convert it to ftin before :p
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:29 PM
@tohecz: Most of us currently online use SI units and you convert it to imperial units :D
 
tohecz
tohecz
@ChristianHupfer for body height, ft in seems more natural. After all, 1cm is to fine specification, you grow and shrink by much more than that every day
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@tohecz: My value was an average :D
 
tohecz
tohecz
@ChristianHupfer well, I'm just slightly above, as you can see
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@tohecz: Yes... I was taller once, but I shrinked already due to my great age ... I am already 40 years old... oh my, the tomb is near ...
 
tohecz
tohecz
@ChristianHupfer still too tall for the tomb, we'll have to cut your feet :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:34 PM
@tohecz: I prefer lying in the tomb not standing, even when dead .... , but you can apply the 'cut the feet off'' style for Johannes :D
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer @cfr @HarishKumar @PauloCereda @DavidCarlisle @JosephWright @StefanKottwitz @egreg @tohecz This is a sign of progress in my eyes: latex-community.org/forum/…
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@Johannes_B: Ah, the dasag guy... is he the alter ego of our 'I'll delete my question before anybody can answer' - fellow?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B A PhD dude with childish behaviour... this disturbs me in so many levels.
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Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@ChristianHupfer This problem is resolved after burning.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@Johannes_B well it's not that different to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/218035/advice-for-beginner
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:37 PM
@Johannes_B: There's no fun it :-D
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle Ouch, the saga continues. :P
@Johannes_B False alarm, as David pointed out. :P
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@DavidCarlisle Also so langsam regt der Brummer mich richtig auf, war der zu lange auf Montage oder was?
@DavidCarlisle Sorry, maybe @ChristianHupfer will translate that for you.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B Nah don't worry, David is fluent in Google. :)
Wait, let me invoke Psmith, maybe he can translate.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@Johannes_B I'm a master of all languages, as Paulo just said
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Agreed... I have a PhD too.. and the guy is getting one ??? No, never, never,never
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:40 PM
!!/translate from de to en Also so langsam regt der Brummer mich richtig auf, war der zu lange auf Montage oder was?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The Brummer really upset me, which was so slow too long on Assembly or what?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@Johannes_B @David speaks all Google langages :)
 
Cortizol
Cortizol
Hi guys. Probably stupid problem, but I downloaded PhD thesis of my professor (you can see here poincare.matf.bg.ac.rs/~keckic/index_e.html in Papers) and that is just .dvi file, okay, and he use some cyrillic Dvi fonts, I suppose this poincare.matf.bg.ac.rs/~keckic/index_e.html before Teaching section on right side and can someone tell me where to copy/paste that fonts?
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Oh my... :D :D :D
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@Johannes_B I think you need to practice to improve your German, it doesn't mean a lot when translated: ^^^^
 
tohecz
tohecz
@Cortizol that's a good question.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:41 PM
@ChristianHupfer I'm trying to get mine too. :P
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda looses a little bit. But io know know where the OP got his english from.
google translate for the between across.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@Cortizol just try to download the ZIP he provides, unpack it in the folder where the DVI file is, and then try to run dvipdfm on it. It should work, if he packed the right files.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@DavidCarlisle: It's German "slang"
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B Almost certainly. I wonder which was the original language.
Maybe some IP lookup from you guys. :)
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
Some cities have snow for Christmas; my city has volcanic ash :-) lapatria.com/sites/default/files/styles/620x/public/…
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
3:44 PM
@Cortizol the fonts in that dvi file are: 
$ dvitype dockec.dvi |grep "^Font"
Font 67: wncyb10 scaled 1440---loaded at size 943718 DVI units
Font 66: wncyb10 scaled 1200---loaded at size 786432 DVI units
Font 62: wncyi10---loaded at size 655360 DVI units
Font 61: wncyb10---loaded at size 655360 DVI units
Font 60: wncyr10---loaded at size 655360 DVI units
Font 57: msbm10---loaded at size 655360 DVI units
Font 54: msam10---loaded at size 655360 DVI units
Font 52: eufm7---loaded at size 458752 DVI units
Font 51: eufm10---loaded at size 655360 DVI units
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
Hello, everyone!
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
He did it again... @DavidCarlisle used *.exe files ....
@GonzaloMedina: Hello
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@GonzaloMedina Hi Gonzalo! :)
 
Cortizol
Cortizol
@tohecz I just used double click to opened that .dvi file and dviprt... and now everything is okay. Thank you
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer In this case it's acceptable. :) It's under Cygwin, it seems. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
3:45 PM
the wncy.. ones are cyrillic but that's an ancient font set for cyrillic assuming that you are basically going to input in transliterated latin they should be part of texlive though so in any current tex distribution, but you don't really want to use them now
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Badly enough I have to use Windows 7 tomorrow in our workshop... but I transferred the worst MS-Word documents to LaTeX .... Do I get a badge for that? :D
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer A pat on the back. :)
 
Cortizol
Cortizol
@DavidCarlisle Okay...Thank you Carlisle, but that all is not helping me, I am n00b for this things, but now everything is okay (oh, my splendid English...)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: You naughty duckling :D
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda I cannot reveal the location, i am sure that someone is near enough to get over there and have a talk in person.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:48 PM
@Johannes_B Or point a gun at his head. Either way it works. :)
@ChristianHupfer Quaaaack! :)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda Let's stay with a non violent QUACK.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B For now. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@Cortizol what I meant is that if you just want to print that dvi you should have the fonts already, but if making a new document with tex using cyrillic you probably shouldn't use those fonts now (although they will work, they are assuming that you can not enter cyrillic characters directly)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: :-P :-P
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer Sorry. :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:54 PM
My profile photo image change did not apply for chat :-(
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer Imperial March playing in the background
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda: Thanks, too nice ... I feel a presence I have not scented for a long time... :-;
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
@PauloCereda Is that photo more recent than the one you had before? ;)
Oooops. I meant to ping @ChristianHupfer ^^
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@GonzaloMedina I had a duck disguised as a Christmas tree. :) Now my duck is disguised as a deer. :)
ooh. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda I don't want to disapoint you, but it's a rubbish disguise, no one was fooled.
 
tohecz
tohecz
3:59 PM
@PauloCereda speaking of ducks, I've got Nicola's book; it's awesome! :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle Oh. :)
@tohecz ooh the book is very cute!
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@GonzaloMedina: No, it's my alter ego :D
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
Just checked, would cost me 43 euro and take only 3 hours and 17 minutes to drive to Prague.
And visit @tohecz
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B Yay!
 
tohecz
tohecz
@Johannes_B cool :) You gotta come at some time :)
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
4:09 PM
@tohecz I most probably will be there next year with my family.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@GonzaloMedina when? sounds cool :)
@Gonzalo gotta go now, but lemme know and maybe we could do something together :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@Johannes_B you'd get there and find he was in Paris
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@DavidCarlisle There would still be a very very special firend in Praha.
 
 
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percusse
percusse
6:52 PM
New data format: The Oxford CSV. Each line is comma delimited until the last two items, which are "and" delimited.
That got me good :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse LOL
 
percusse
percusse
RT @zapjackson: New data format: The Oxford CSV. Each line is comma delimited until the last two items, which are "and" delimited.
Tweeted by SciPyTip on November 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM
It doesn't do pretty printing for tweets?
aah http instead of https
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
7:09 PM
@JosephWright did I miss anything here (see comment thread) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/218085/…
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
7:59 PM
Good maen
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
8:11 PM
@DavidCarlisle No, sounds about right
@DavidCarlisle We need the galley for an equivalent of \leavevmode and the name is still not decided
@DavidCarlisle As we have e-TeX it's to be implemented differently 
\cs_new_protected_nopar:Npn \mode_leave_vertical: % Or something
  {
    \if_mode_vertical:
      \exp_after:wN \tex_indent:D
    \fi:
  }
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
8:24 PM
Elmo?! :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@JosephWright does that require etex? (I remember some discussion of this and the luatex thing) but not the details:-)
 
davin
davin
@PauloCereda I was going to be all serious and ask about a problem I've just solved (or at least worked around) with equation numbers being misplaced, but hey, sure, why not. I am Elmo after all...
He's very cute.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@DavidCarlisle Yes, because it relies on the fact that we can generate a protected macro
@DavidCarlisle Done this way the mode change comes before \everypar gets inserted
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@davin Hello! :) I like Elmo too. :)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@DavidCarlisle LuaTeX has \quitvmode which is similar but entirely skips \everypar
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
8:28 PM
@JosephWright ah yes i knew it was about when everypar hit but I skipped over the `_protected_ in the command definition
@JosephWright it all comes back like a bad dream:-)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@DavidCarlisle \quitvmode seems to be no longer documented: perhaps Taco has changed his mind
 
davin
davin
@PauloCereda, hello and goodbye. Happy holidays!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@davin To you as well! :) Have fun!
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda you shed the antlers
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle o.O
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
8:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle Actually testing \quitvmode it does insert \everypar: I seem to remember Taco saying that he'd missed that \protected\def\leavevmode{\ifvmode\expandafter\indent\fi} was actually equivalent to what he wanted to do
 
 
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Sean Allred
Sean Allred
10:02 PM
It's getting to be a bit much -- I'm constantly running into questions now that I've already participated in and leaving effectively the same comment without realizing it.
 
cfr
cfr
10:20 PM
@SeanAllred Would you have a particular user's questions in mind? Or do you mean that you've now had a go at every question on the site? [Not sure if 'it' refers to our friend and our friend's alleged other friend, or to TeX SE, or to life, the universe and everything ;).]
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr ooh 42! :)
 
cfr
cfr
10:54 PM
@PauloCereda Not 6 x 9, then?
 
Manuel
Manuel
@JosephWright Thinking about some discussion from some time ago… isn't there a place in xparse for S{..} (not perfect, but an approach)
The same way we have o and O{default}. We could have s (seeking for *) and S{!} seeking for ! for instance. And then a \IfTokenTF{#1}{ !{exclamation} +{plus} -{minus} *{star} } {true}{false}.
It's not perfect, but I think it's easily understandable, so it tests for a token different than \bgroup. Having a signature with six arguments like { t- t+ t! s m m } is not practical (I think). When what you are looking for is { S{-} m m } and then \IfTokenTF{#1}{!{foo} +{bar} -{baz} *{default star}}{true}{false}.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr :)
 

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