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12:00 AM
@PauloCereda I know how to tie a tie. Sort of … ;-)
@PauloCereda Because of the 5000 white pages?
 
@DavidCarlisle Nah I'd be spotted very quickly. :)
@egreg I don't. :) I had one which had a zipper. :P
@egreg 10 points per page. :P
 
@PauloCereda Hey! That would make 50000. Happily you don't have them. :P
@PauloCereda By the way, Gonzalo and Werner are heading for 200K
 
@egreg I'd go bankrupt. :P
@egreg oh my, the club won't be so exclusive then. :)
 
And Stefan is 596 points shy of 100K
@PauloCereda By mid August I should be founding a new one.
 
@egreg You need to found the 300k club, my friend. :P
@egreg Oopsie. :)
 
@PauloCereda The plan is going on. ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I still prefer my zipper tie. :P I know how to do the hangman's knot, but it's probably not suitable for a tie. :P
@egreg We might need a new milestone post. :)
 
@PauloCereda you're talking about this? vvv
:)
 
@cgnieder Close, but that was awesome! :)
 
12:22 AM
@PauloCereda lol How could I forget about that?
 
@cgnieder :)
 
 
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3:20 AM
My computer just broke :-( I was answering this question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/162041/background-picture but didn't have time to upload an image showing the resulting image. If it's not much to ask, I would be very thankful if someone could process the code (the image used is in the question) and upload the image to my answer.
 
3:37 AM
I should have you covered, @GonzaloMedina :)
Unrelated, but if anyone has a hardware bent, would they be willing to chime in at my Q over at SU? superuser.com/q/720793/160871
 
@SeanAllred, Mavricks does not do anything about this, nor (frankly) do I think there is anything that can be done. Additionally, while there is a read/write limit, it is very high, and its on a per block basis, not a per file one
(i.e. don't worry about it too much)
 
@GonzaloMedina Done.
 
Anyone know how I can escape ( and ) in Tikz?
 
@soandos My immediate guess would be to wrap them in braces, but I haven't tested.
Oh! Thanks @soandos!
@soandos Out of curiosity, why do you need to escape your parentheses? I can't think of a use case where they'd be just laying around :P
@Speravir … :( I spent a bit of time trying to find some file called kodvZ.............which I just realized was the background picture filename. Doh!
 
3:54 AM
@SeanAllred :-) Read again, what Gonzalo wrote above … ;-)
 
@SeanAllred I am trying to use Tikz's automatic graph drawing library, and {Tn->{b,c}}; works, but replacing Tn with T(n) does not
 
@Speravir :( I read too fast, sometimes…
@soandos The one introduced in 3.0?
 
@SeanAllred Yea. Good call on the braces though, it worked
 
Oh good. :)
 
 
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6:13 AM
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A: Center table by end of cell

Harish KumarI don't know why Chris (cmhughes) deleted his answer. But, for this simple job, no need of loading a heavy package like tabularx. Without it, this is how it is done. \documentclass{article} \usepackage{showframe} \usepackage{array} \newcolumntype{L}{>{\raggedright\arraybackslash}p{\dimexpr0.5\te...

@cmhughes Chris why did you delete your answer for
In fact that is the lightest and good way of doing it. If you wish, take the columns from my answer and I will delete mine. Idea is yours and I will be happy to see your answer than mine :)
@GonzaloMedina Gonzalo May be your computer is too tired (unlike you) ;-)
 
6:35 AM
@HarishKumar +1 I was trying to avoid the heavy packages but I didn't think to set column width inside the definition.
 
@PaulGessler Thanks. :)
@karlkoeller Hi. Good morning. Do you ever visit this room?
 
 
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8:32 AM
I'm going to São Paulo today, so you guys behave. :)
 
 
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11:46 AM
Scientific word generates x_1^{\prime\prime} for x_1'', I was wondering if there would it will be better to just write it as x_1^{''} since it is easier. which is the correct Latex way? Here is a screen shot
The left one is x_1^{\prime\prime}, i am trying to avoid having to write \prime\prime all the time
 
@Nasser ' is already superscript
What's wrong with x''_1?
 
@JosephWright WOW ! nice. I never thought of this. (I am edited code geneated by SW to clean in up.) thanks. THat is the best solution
@JosephWright Here is the result. I just rewrote this. The difference is amazing. I cut off more than 50% of the code and now I can at least see it better.
 
@Nasser Do you see what I mean? The polished version is quite readable, isn't it? However, I'd write x_{1}'', just like x_{1}^2, because logically the exponent comes later.
 
@egreg sure, thanks for the tip !
I figure how to do live preview with TexStudio on windows ! This helps so much. NOw I am just writing raw Latex, and able to see the result as I type in the little window below. This helps alot. I think I finally found the way to do this Latex thing.
 
12:10 PM
@Nasser Well done! Once, you'll find that checking the output in the bottom panel is unnecessary waste of time, and you'll just close the panel ;)
 
@tohecz thank you. But I do not think I'll ever close that preview panel, without seeing what I am typing, it is hard for me to do this.
This small window below really helps. I do not know how the experts here can write Latex without seeing the result at the same time.
 
\begin{align*}
  C_{L_wb} &= \frac{\partial C_{L_wb}}{\partial\alpha_{wb}}\alpha_{wb}
  \\ &= a_{wb}\alpha_{wb}
,\\
  C_{L_t} &= a_t\alpha_t
,\\
  C_{mp} &= C_{m_0p}+\frac{\partial C_{mp}}{\partial\alpha}\alpha
.\end{align*}
@Nasser ^^ you're clearly missing two commas, and probably a final fullstop as well ;)
 
thanks, I was trying for 10 minutes to find why it wont compile :)
When I edit SW output to clean it up, many times I break the code, and then spend more time trying to fix it :(
 
well, your code doesn't work because you're inside longtable. Use $\begin{aligned} ... \end{aligned}$ and you'll be fine
 
@tohecz thanks !
 
12:28 PM
@Nasser the display math has to be in a vertical list, which is not a table cell. a p{<width>} cell would do, but you needed to know the width. This is the clean solution for this case
 
@tohecz I use {p} for table, since I want to include images and other things. So I learned that {p} is the right choice for this. But {p} wants a size to go with it. So it is trial and error to pick the right size of the column width. But I have not found a better way yet.
 
@Nasser you shouldn't use it then
use X from tabularx
 
@tohecz I've used tabularX before. I do not know why I did not think of it here. Will try it. may be because I wanted to make longtable. I do not know now if tabularX can do long table as well. WIll look into it. thanks for reminding me of tabularX
 
@Nasser there's a solution, I think it's ltxtable
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Q: Is it possible to use tabularx inside a longtable environment?

Mario S. E.Is it possible to use tabularx inside a longtable environment? If not, is there any way I can get the "X" funcionality of tabularx with the option of long tables ---In order for me to be able to break them in two pages? Using longtabu is not an option, as stated by @jon here: I would recom...

 
12:45 PM
@tohecz will definitly look into this. Thanks,. I use long tables and graphics in them, and always struggle with getting the right sizes for the column since I use p{size in}
@tohecz can I ask why you suggested to use $ before and after the \begin{aligned} ? I just tried it without the $ and it works also. Math rendered fine. So the $ is not needed, right? i.e. I can just write \begin{aligned} math stuff \end{aligned}
 
@Nasser that's possivlle. I would prefer to keep it there since it somehow makes more sense. I've never heard that it's not necessary
 
1:06 PM
@tohecz this is strange. I switched to \begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{|X|X|X|}\hline from \begin{longtable}[c]{|p{.2in}|p{5in}|p{1.5in}|}\hline and now I got an error saying I need $'s around the aligned! So I put your $ sign back in there now. Any way, may be it is needed depending on environment, since before it was p{}. Not important, will keep the $ there :)
 
@Nasser yeah, I thought that it is strange
 
Quack. :)
 
@PauloCereda Meow
 
@tohecz Quock. <3
I'm using my tablet. :)
 
@PauloCereda Quack Queck Quick Quock Quuck Quyck
 
1:16 PM
@tohecz ooh linguistic patterns. <3
 
any one here uses TexStudio by any chance? I can't figure how to tell it no to highlight corresponding {} automatically. It is driving me crazy. I looked at all configuration options and can't see an option to turn this off !
one I open { the above highlighter kicks in and makes it hard to type for me
 
@Nasser I don't like that editor at all, TBH.
@Paulo don't you know how to make the distance between \node[left=of A] and (A) smaller?
 
@tohecz I do not like it now. It feels like MS word with the above annoying thing. Any one here uses TexShop? I need something with life preview which TexShop supposedly has.
 
Anyone else been bitten by the change in Thunderbird to default to top posting?
Very annoying
 
@JosephWright top posting?
 
1:28 PM
@tohecz Yes: they've changed the 'out of the box' setting for replies, so you now have to change it when you set up your first account
 
@JosephWright ah this top posting. Like "start my reply above / below the original text"!
 
@tohecz Yes
 
@JosephWright well I dunno. I set this once in couple years or so, sorry :(
 
@tohecz Same here: I was just rather surprised that when I had to set up TB recently I found the setting had changed
In better news, the Apple shop have (hopefully) fixed my laptop: to be picked up later today
 
1:44 PM
@JosephWright I think I don't remember which was the default :) As long as the option is easily reachable, it's fine with me
@JosephWright kool! good to hear
 
@tohecz Yes, I'm pleased :-)
Now I just have to reinstall everything
 
@JosephWright yep, that's annoying. I'll have to do that soon. I've got a notebook for Xmas, spent a week tuning it up, and then it crashed :(
 
@tohecz Ouch
@tohecz I'd reinstalled the OS to rule out a software issue on my machine: always best to know what is wrong before talking to the shop
 
@JosephWright here the issue is that Windows 8 and EFI bioses simply suck. I'm looking forward to the Czech anti-monopol institute giving a large penalty to vendors for this.
 
@tohecz Sounds about right: I had some 'fun' with a friend's Win8 machine
 
1:57 PM
@JosephWright the point is that it's "illegal" and almost impossible to install linux along to existing Win8
 
@tohecz My problem was installing Win7 without having to trash the Win8 recovery partition, but in many ways the same issues apply
 
@JosephWright I even managed to shrink the Windows partitions from inside Windows, but then the EFI bios crashed after one week, unable to deal with dual boot
and with EFI bioses "crash" means you can do nothing at all -- not even access the bios setup to change to primary boot from USB or CD
 
@tohecz What do you mean by "illegal" installing linux along Win8?
@tohecz BTW: I finally got the driver and WLAN no works on this crappy lenovo. I still hate it with passion
 
@Johannes_B you break the EULA of Windows by doing that.
 
@tohecz Oh, didn't know. I guess i am going to read it.
 
2:07 PM
@Johannes_B well, the point is that such a statement makes the EULA itself illegal in all western legislations, which is quite hilarious.
 
@tohecz In german i would say: »Aber das muss doch einer merken?!«
Meaning: Well, someone should note that
 
the reason is that by modifying the boot instructions, you break the EULA, and of course, without that you can't have parallel systems without modified boot info
 
Yea this Win8/EFI BIOS stuff is highly annoying. As @tohecz alludes, totally unenforceable, but annoying nonetheless.
 
@PaulGessler the point is that it's the BIOS which is mal
 
@tohecz I think you can supply a node distance=1cm to the node thingy.
 
2:21 PM
@PauloCereda well, it seems to work only supplied to both of them, or to the whole tikzpicture, which seems to be what everyone does
 
@PauloCereda For a single node, just say [left=1cm of A].
 
@TorbjørnT. ah ok. Well, node distance did the job. Thanks anyways
 
@tohecz node distance is intended as a 'global' setting I think.
 
@TorbjørnT. yep, seems so
 
Should one write "using Eq. (1)" or "using eq. (1)" or "using Eq (1)" or just "using (1)" ? what is the correct way to refer to equations? I've so many styles.
 
2:33 PM
@Nasser I prefer "using (1)". But it's not 100% clear
 
@Nasser depends on your field/locale afaik. You might consult style manuals commonly used in your field.
 
mmnt
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A: Referencing Non-Equations ("See Eq. (15)/See Ineq. (15)")

toheczAs mentioned in some other answers, and with some addendum. Five examples of the same text in different styles (please, excuse my English): We may now apply (15) to (13). From (12) we then see that (14) is satisfied. We may now apply Eq. (15) to Eq. (13). From Eq. (12) we then see that Eq. (14)...

 
@tohecz thanks! You are very good in finding these things :)
 
@Nasser when I author them, yes :)
 
@Speravir Thank you very much.
@SeanAllred Thanks to you too :-)
 
2:45 PM
Hehe, @Gonzalo seems to be thankful today :)
 
i've had many crashes using the live preview in texstudio. May be it is a configuration issue. Not sure.
might be miktex or DVIPNG.exe
This seems to happen when I select large amount of code to preview. I am not able to preview the whole document live. Only small parts at a time...but it is still better than no preview at all
I think I know why. it crashes since I am using includegraphics with pdf ! Will have to change that.
 
@Nasser I do not know how live preview works in TexStudio, but remember. It will start a compile run when the previous is finished (if something new has been added).
@Nasser a compile run can take 1 second, but only if the document is really short.
@Nasser it just takes some time, that will happen with any previewer (compire writelatex).
@Nasser Another thing you have to remember: Starting a group environment, there is the possibility that the compiler starts before closing the group, giving you an error.
 
@Johannes_B I think it is not able to do live preview for the whole document because I use \includegraphics{image.pdf} in many places, I think I need to configure it for that? Not sure. I try changing all the .png
 
@Nasser If your images are vector graphics, pdflatex can handle them, classic latex (dvi mode) can't. But it's better to convert them to eps.
 
It crashes when I select \includegraphics{image.pdf}, but if I do not select this, it works
 
2:59 PM
@Nasser png is a raster format
 
Yes, I know. that is why I switched to pdf. I use VISIO to make drawings. Then I save to PDF all my drawings, then includes them in Latex. Will look to see if this is what causing DVIPNG to crash. Need to make a small test
 
3:14 PM
I wonder if Knuth uses Latex now in his writings, or if he still uses Tex itself. my guess is that he uses Tex.
 
@Nasser Still uses plain
@Nasser Still prints out his slides :-)
 
I thought so :) he probably does not even need live Latex preview in his editor.
 
@Nasser with a bit of experience, you won't need it as well.
@Nasser Maybe you are interested in the following
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Q: How was TeX output visualised on screen, back in the day?

JubobsI've been using LaTeX for about two years; I'm only learning TeX now, to get a better understanding of the foundations. In Chapter 6 : Running TeX of his TeXbook (more specifically, on page 23), Knuth writes about how to get started with TeX: Go to the lab where the graphic output device is...

 
@Johannes_B oh, I remember this one! I had a comment there about ChiWriter. First Latex-like editor I used. Was hard to use. I still have documents written in chiwriter
 
You could wait for iTeX (bingeling). Everything will be easier using iTeX (bingeling) ;-)
 
3:40 PM
@Nasser I suspect that is true of most people using TeX. Live preview is more trouble than it's worth.
 
@DavidCarlisle I think for an expert like you, you would not need live preview. But I really need to see the math as I type. Without it, I was compiling every 2 seconds just to see what I typed looks like. So, I really like live-preview.
 
@Nasser I wasn't always an "expert" but I've never used live preview. Using live-preview is the wrong response to the problem of compiling every 2 seconds, you should train yourself to write a page or so at a time before compiling. No one writing C (or javascript or visual basic or ...0 code tries to speculative compile it all the time as you edit teh source, why do that for TeX?
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@Nasser but note that I didn't say I didn't use it, I said that I think most tex users don't use it.
 
@DavidCarlisle I think I use Latex a little differently. You see, I write my HW, when using SW, directly on the screen. So I need to look at the equations so I know what to write next. i.e. I do all the simplification and the algebra on the screen. This is easy to do using a GUI since I can "see" the math and not instead see all \\{}{}\\{}\\ stuff. I like SW, but it does not give one complete control of the Latex and many times I have to edit the Latex to do something, that is the only problem
 
@Nasser I would go crazy if i would do the math on screen. PLease don't get me wrong but:
 
I look at it like this: The more abstraction and higher level, the better it is. Better to concentrate on the math and content, rather on the where \\, and \{\} should go.
 
3:54 PM
Best live preview is done by a pencil and a piece of paper.
 
@Nasser You just know that in this forum you are going to be repeatedly told not to do that: (but it's a free world, do whatever works for you:-)
 
@Johannes_B Yes, ofcourse. But for me, SW on the screen is paper and pencil ! no difference. since I write the equation just like on paper.
 
@Nasser What @DavidCarlisle just said :-)
 
4:08 PM
Is there a way to auto-download missing packages? (I use Tex Live and Texstudio as an editor)
I just installed the editor, I don't mind to change to an alternative (I want to use greek text and packages are a little weid on that)
 
@user2692669 No, TeX Live doesn't do 'auto-install' (at least not without some tricks)
 
@user2692669 But in general, TeXLive does a complete install.
@PauloCereda Being used to vim almost makes it impossible to ceep calm using vi.
 
@Johannes_B just switch to emacs and your life will be serenely calm.
 
@DavidCarlisle I should have guessed that someone comes along with that. :-D
 
@Johannes_B Glad to oblige:-) (@PauloCereda would have been disappointed if I had not)
 
4:19 PM
@DavidCarlisle To make @PauloCereda really happy, we should also make a comment about ducks.
 
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                                ;     ". ;'',;":":
                               :'    '"" ;"':"':"'
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                              ;          ,:
                              :        ;'"
                              :     '":
                              ';      :
                               ':     ;
                                :     ':
                     ,;"'"'"....'      :
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@Johannes_B @PauloCereda ^^^^^
 
@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda Quack quack
 
4:47 PM
Is there a funny backstory on the ducks (sorry I'm totally uninformed :D ) or is it just a random thing? :~)
 
I see :D
 
5:05 PM
I learned how to use inskape to make diagrams, and it also supports adding Latex math on the diagrams ! Now I can save the images as eps and the math still looks good when compiled in pdflatex. Before I used to copy math as png to the drawing. The effect is amazing now. Here is screen shot. Just added \sin(x) on one diagram to see the different. All other math notations were .png added on top of the diagram
Notice how much sharper the sin(x) is compared to the other math letters !
I am going to throw away my VISIO now and use inkscape for all my drawings.
 
@Nasser several packages can do that (xfig has been doing it since the dawn of time:-) also if you have any package that puts text in an exported eps you can usually (or sometimes) replace the text by latex typeset text using psfrag,
 
Microsoft should have added Latex support like this to VISIO drawing.
@DavidCarlisle I just learned about inkscape today that it can do Latex. Which do you recommened between the 2? I am looking for a drawing program (for engineering/science) where I can add Latex to it and be able to save as eps or pdf. I know about xfig, but have not used it for ages. I thought it is dead and not maintained any more.
(and no, I am not going to learn Tikz for this, too hard :)
inkscape looks like a nice program. and it does Latex also.
 
@Nasser I have no idea (I last used xfig sometime last century,and I've never used inkscape:-) I was going to say, but you just pre-empted me that the tikz mafia here would tell you to do the whole thing in tikz.
 
Why haven't i heard of VISIO. The last few days that word/program popped up here and on a german forum several times. What the hell is VISIO? -> taking a moment to g00gle it ...
 
@Johannes_B you should bing for it :-)
 
5:13 PM
@DavidCarlisle I think learning Latex is hard enough for me. To also learn Tikz at the same, will be too much. I'd rather use a GUI program for that.
@Johannes_B you do not know what VISIO is??? OMG !!
Visio is one of the most popular drafting tools on windows platform (autocad and solidworks are much more advanced ofcourse) but visio is very good for typical drawings and drafting. Easy to use. Microsoft bought Visio in mid- 1990's.
 
@Nasser in 2000 actually, but it's like saying Word is a popular document authoring tool, it may be in general but it is not so commonly used by people here. Open cross platform document formats are rather more popular.
 
@Nasser The first g00gle/bing entry gives me the words professional and microsoft in one line. Thats not bad. Bad is, that there is no not in this line
 
Here is a screen shot me using VISIO now...
 
@Nasser Where's the CLI? :-)
 
@Johannes_B it is what I use for all my drawings. Only problem is that it does not support Latex. Hence adding math to the diagram is done by copying math equations using the clipboard from Scientific word. The result is not good since it is not vector format. It looks bad in HTML and in pdf
THere is actually almost no support for Latex math in all the engineering drawing programs in the industry. Autocad does not have it, not solidworks. I asked autocad support on this once, they did not even know what Latex was.
I told them Latex is for writing books with math in it.
 
5:21 PM
@Nasser That's why you need psfrag
 
I won't say Ti*k*Z this time Oh, wait
 
@DavidCarlisle does psfrag have a GUI?
 
@Nasser :-D
@Nasser There are several tools with a GUI, trying to output valent code. But yu have to understand, everything that is generated automatically will have it's pitfalls.
 
@Nasser it's a latex package \usepackage{psfrag}
@Johannes_B You could say pstricks instead
 
@Nasser There are many many tikz (also pstricks) Qs here on TeX.SX. Have a look at the texample gallery. texample.net/tikz/examples/signpost
 
5:28 PM
@Johannes_B Thanks, yes, I know about this, I actually have this one example on my Latex sheet cheat ! But I really think making a drawing using a GUI is the way to go. Writing a program to make a drawing is not for me, as long as I can get Latex on it, and save as vector format, then I am set.
 
It is a thing of personal taste. Having a point and click adventure, or writing plain text which can be saved and transported. Imagine all those Qs with answers like »Go to insert -> Line; rightClick settings, properties, line, width, change linewidth to .4 pt« I would go insane
 
@Nasser for the kind of diagrams you show using markup such as tikz or pstricks is likely to be simpler and more accurate than using a GUI tool. If you are demonstrating spirals and ellipses and tangents and things at specific angles, it is far easier to get them right if you just use a command form and letting the system draw them rather than trying to draw the things
 
@Nasser The documentation of tikz has a great tutorial. You should give it a try ;-)
 
Mac is back :-)
 
@Johannes_B thanks, I did look at it. I played little with Tikz, I have examples on my Latex cheat sheet showing how to use it with tex4ht also. But very simple examples only. 12000.org/my_notes/faq/LATEX/html_and_latex.htm#x1-5200021 but now that I found that inkscape supports Latex the need to learn it is not as urgent. May be in the future will give another look
 
5:49 PM
Having my first go at running a custom bst with the tufte-class. I keep getting 'undefined control sequence \harvardand' on the bbl generation, yet when I try to define it myself, it says its already defined. Am I missing something?
 
@egreg: Using $$ for display math????
 
@PeterGrill You mean in the question? ;)
 
@tohecz Oh, didn't see that tag. :-)
 
@ForkrulAssail try \show\harvardand \expandafter\show\csname harvardand \endcsname and show the results here. The first one should be something and the second one should be undefined.
@PeterGrill btw: Hi Peter! :)
 
@tohecz Hi there.
 
6:04 PM
`> \harvardand=undefined.
l.66 \show\harvardand
\expandafter\show\csname harvardand \endcsname
?
> \harvardand =\relax.
<recently read> \harvardand

l.66 ...andafter\show\csname harvardand \endcsname
`
 
ah ok, that looks right: \harvardand is simply undefined. Can you show the .bbl file? At least the headers
 
Ok, May be I will learn Tikz. But it does not support dimensions. It is very important to have support for dimensions (automatic). inkscape support for engineering drawing is not good I am finding. I can't believe we are in 2014, and there is still no engineering/science drawing GUI tool that supports vector graphics and also Latex for annotation. Amazing.
 
@ForkrulAssail there's something strange. I'm afraid that I can't help you :( You can try making a MWE a posting a question on the site
 
@tohecz thanks for looking. Might be an installation issue?
 
6:15 PM
@ForkrulAssail I don't think so.
 
@Nasser whenever I need to include formal dimensioned drawings, I print them to pdf (at a custom page size) and include them with \includegraphics{}. For typical homework/problem set/classwork diagrams (not super formal), I have a set of tikz styles that I use for dimensioning.
This example shows a very early attempt to implement these styles, but you might find it interesting: texample.net/tikz/examples/signpost
Whoops, I remember your comment on my force vector direction now, so you have already seen this I guess.
 
@PaulGessler I am not sure if we mean the same thing. What I mean is like with Autcad. One selects the points, and it calcluates the dimensions and automatically draws the lines and arrows as needed. Same for angles. in code, I would say: Make a dimensions between {a,b} points, and may be give an offset, and Tickz will generate the dimension line, the actual values and place the dimensions in the correct place (can be an option as well).
This is very common in engineering drawings like autocad and solidworks. Like this one for example web.arch.usyd.edu.au/~pmurty/courses/DECO2204/classic/…
This looks like it was done in autocad. This is the most time consuming for me to do by hand
 
@Nasser your link is what I would call a formal dimensioned drawing. Which I would include as a pdf. My tikz styles are a serious work in progress, but attempt to automate the code in my example. For instance, gap in extension lines, offset, dimension line, and dimension placement. But perhaps we should take this discussion into chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7828/… if we have more discussion on tikz/friends.
 
I look forward for your tikz work on dimensions. Thanks.
 
6:48 PM
@PeterGrill I know what I'm doing. ;-)
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@egreg Famous last words. ;-)
 
7:35 PM
@PaulGessler lol :)
@egreg please, how much experience do you have in algebraic number theory? I'm lost with one small problem considering number norms
 
7:45 PM
@ForkrulAssail fragile command in moving argument, I'd guess
@egreg now do it without forcing \par :-)
 
8:20 PM
@PauloCereda Wasn't the HD, just the SATA cable :-)
 
8:33 PM
@Nasser Who mentioned autocad ?
:)
 
How do I define a simple alias for an existing command, if I want it to work exactly the same way?
 
like \let\myalias\mycommand?
 
thanks, never used let.
@percusse, that's a 100% alias that'll pass all options etc?
 
8:49 PM
@DavidCarlisle \vadjust pre?
 
9:06 PM
@egreg yes but you cant use \lastskip in the vadjust
@ForkrulAssail yes it is a pointer to the definition (you can undefine the original and the "alias" will preserve the original meaning)
 
@DavidCarlisle, thank you.
 
9:21 PM
@DavidCarlisle Did you ever count the average daily demands for MWEs?
 
Hey guys, good day. Am having this issue after I updated TeXLive 2013:
"I could not create 1 of format (base/mem) file(s).
For details, see log file(s) in the (fmt/base/mem) dir(s).
C:\texlive\2013\bin\win32\runscript.tlu:650: command failed with exit code 1:
fmtutil --all --all "
 
@Johannes_B half the question counter:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
Just want to check here before I post as a question.
 
Just did a google search limited to a german forum. The word Minimalbeispiel along with may name got about 870 results.
 
9:24 PM
@azetina do the referenced log files have any useful info 9eg which format failed)
 
I have a bit over 1200 posts
 
@DavidCarlisle Anyway, \medskip does issue \par, so there's no gain in doing without it.
 
@egreg oh I'll let you off then:-)
 
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Q: control the output file at binary level

AngeI would like to generate a PDF file via PDFTeX that is also a Windows executable polyglot. For this, I need the PDF file, among other thing, to start with the 'MZ' letters (yes, this makes a PDF that is still valid). Can I do that via a specific macro or package?

What the ....?
Don't know where the OP got the idea that this is valid
 
@JosephWright Did you see that Heiko is starting to patch also siunitx?
 
9:27 PM
@egreg No
@egreg Not really allowed!
 
6
A: Automatically spacing the tilde (~) symbol as a prefix number using the `siunitx` package

egregUsing \SI{\sim 10}{\percent} should be OK; maybe you want \approx, instead. \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{report} \usepackage{siunitx} \begin{document} \SI{< 10}{\percent} \SI{<10}{\percent} \SI{\sim 10}{\percent} \SI{\approx 10}{\percent} \end{document}

 
@JosephWright \usepackage{rootkit} ?
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@JosephWright I thought exactly the same :-)
 
@JosephWright I just changed a row of \expandafter's into something better.
It could be seen as a feature request.
 
@egreg Can't do that: ~ is reserved for a space (following SIstyle)
 
9:33 PM
@JosephWright I suspected that. Anyway, \~ is good as well.
I meant an interface for adding prefixes
 
@egreg Isn't there already a key for this?
 
@JosephWright Well, I don't know.
 
@egreg When I get a chance I do need to do some siunitx work
First though it seems I need to revisit 'expl3-on-plain', etc. :-)
 
:13951368: Yeah, no kidding. I should no better than to doubt you. :-)
 
9:52 PM
@PeterGrill :)
 
@JosephWright I am confused: I flagged an answer of Aditya (tex.stackexchange.com/a/161206/9237) with the text “Should be merged with other answer. OP does not react to my according comment, though he has been logged in.” Today this flag is marked as helpful, but nothing changed. ??? The issue is I could, of course, copy the content myself into the other answer, but I cannot delete Aditya’s one – and now I even cannot flag it anymore. What to do?
 
@Speravir A flag can be dismissed as helpful without action by a mod
@Speravir In this case, I decided that 'no action' was the appropriate outcome
 
@JosephWright OK, thanks for info.
 
@Speravir Reasoning: it's really up to individuals if they want to post separate answers or add to a 'general' one, at least apart from for example the 'big list of IDEs' where it's an explicit part of the question that answers take a particular form
 
@JosephWright OK, good to know. But I find it in this case unedequate/unsocial/uncooperative (or whatever the right term is), because I added explicitely as first sentence “Feel free to enhance the list” and intentionally made my answer in CW state.
 
10:07 PM
@Speravir Yes I can see that, but as the question doesn't require a single answer then it's down to individuals, as I say. Perhaps Aditya simply missed the message (not hard to do if you get several).
 
@JosephWright Or he decided to be uncooperative. ;-)
 
10:23 PM
@Speravir You could extend the comprehensive answer and flag the other one for deletion or just comment on what you did, perhaps the writer accepts it
@Speravir It's not always the case that there's one comprehensive answer with several sections. Sometimes the sections are spread over answers, which is an advantage for linking to a specific editor, frome somewhere else, like here
or answers can be linked in kind of a table of contents in the question, just thoughts why it may happen differently
@Speravir The "secret" of the site: people do everything for Internet points ;-) Wiki doesn't help to earn them.
 
@StefanKottwitz Yes, would have been possible. But I started a CW answer … I will wait a bit, whether Aditya changes his mind.
@StefanKottwitz Oh, yes, that's a great motivation …
 
@Speravir gamification is not so bad, it gives fun and motivates people, the result counts
 
@StefanKottwitz goto texwelt.de/wissen big grin
 
@Speravir want to join an upcoming project without points? :-) texdoc.org
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@StefanKottwitz Blog post?
 
10:31 PM
Its planned for supporting various sites. And for possible community collaboration for abandoned projects
 
@StefanKottwitz Emm, I've already seen this. In the moment I do not understand how I could help there, but when you want me add as member, no problem.
 
@Speravir It's still in brainstorming process. But could be a place for anything drafting and working with, in TeX, who likes it can use it, I guess some projects would use the platform for their purpose
@Speravir Nothing to do right now, perhaps when there's something else starting ;-)
 
@StefanKottwitz As said: If you want to add me it will not hurt.
 
@JosephWright That flower will flourish for some weeks, as a blossom in the wood does if somebody looks or not. Once it's desired and the licensing is done, it can stay and grow. I just got a 30 days evaluation licence, not sure if it manages to qualify for an Open Source project license. I cannot point myself to a place yet where deciding people see that there's really a code archive.
 
I'm terribly sorry to bother you again, but if somebody could process the document here tex.stackexchange.com/a/162187/3954 and upload the image, I'd be thankful. I promise it is the last time.
 
10:41 PM
@Speravir Gladly, it doesn't hurt. :-) It will be an opportunity to look behind the scenes of some websites and projects.
@GonzaloMedina No problem, I'll look at it.
 
@StefanKottwitz Thanks. I had to change to Windows for these days and I still have to familiarize myself with how things work in Windows world.
 
@GonzaloMedina When you have problems with your computer, we could and would do some work of this kind more than once.
 
@Speravir Thanks, but I don't want to be a burden. I am just trying to figure out which PDF viewer can I use in Windows allowing me to select some contents and save it as a PNG image. Do you perchance know about this?
@StefanKottwitz I see you've uploaded the image, thank you!
 
@GonzaloMedina When I have to be on Windows, I just make window screenshots by ALT+PRINTSCREEN keys, paste it to to the freely obtainable small Paint.NET program, cut it there and save it for uploading.
@GonzaloMedina There are screenshot tools with selection, I just did not care about looking for and installing Windows software
 
@StefanKottwitz Ah, seems to be what I was looking for. Thanks, once again.
 
10:57 PM
@JosephWright I can change to Mediawiki at any time. It's just not so smexy.
@cgnieder My girl friend also told me today via Skype that "TeX by Topic" arrived. I guess I should come home to here and the children then. :-)
 
@GonzaloMedina I do not know any. I just make screenshots of the output. I have an old free version of FaststoneCapture portable, but do now almost in every case use Greenshot (open source), what actually provide more functions than I need. The screenshot I do optimise in [IrfanView(irfanview.com); download also the plugins, there’s a pngout plugin for making them smaller.
@GonzaloMedina There is a more recent command line version of pngout on advsys.net/ken/utils.htm.
 
@Speravir Thanks! Will also give it a try.
 
@GonzaloMedina Isn't my version of piano.sty nicer?
 
@GonzaloMedina I suddenly remember that in PDF-XChange Viewer is a screenshot function, but it’s a long time since I used it …
 
11:17 PM
@egreg It is and I guess it will be much nicer for me once I learn my way through LaTeX3 syntax.
 
@GonzaloMedina For TeXing I use usually SumatraPDF, so a general screenshot tool is useful. But (as written) PDF-XChange Viewer and, as I just noticed, also Adobe Reader have a snapshot tool, too: Activate it, then select with mouse. After selection the screenshot is copied into clipboard and could be pasted in and edited with IrfanView or GIMP or …
 
Are blank lines gobbled after environments? I just noticed that a blank line before the start of a Formula environment (from the gene-logic package) resulted in a line's worth of whitespace in the PDF, whereas a blank line after the end of the environment was ignored.
 
@Dennis a blank line is a paragraph break, what happens at paragraph breaks depends on the class and various other things, so it depends
@Dennis If Formula is like the standard equation then a blank line before the environment is essentially a syntax error and the white line generated is just an artefact of the recovery
 
11:36 PM
@DavidCarlisle huh, so if it was a syntax error would I notice a line in the console log noting the syntax error?
 
@Dennis no:-) It just silently does the wrong thing (there is an answer on site somewhere, I may see if I can see it)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah ok, well if you can find that answer I'd appreciate it (no worries if you can't, though). I'm curious which environments would exhibit this behavior...I'm worried that there are spurious white lines in many of my documents now, haha.
 
@HarishKumar Good boy! You might as well warn the OP.
 
5
A: Different space between \align and \equation

David CarlisleThe calculations are a bit different so they are not always same but the reason why the spacing is so bad in your example is that you should never have a blank line before a display math. The visible space is not (to TeX) a vertical space but a spurious extra paragraph with just an indentation b...

 
@DavidCarlisle Great! Thanks much!
There's no way that an emacs vs. vim question could reasonably be asked on here, is there? I'm interested in switching to a more lightweight advanced text editor and am curious about the reasons to use one over the other. A "which should I use" question doesn't seem entirely appropriate for SE format, though....
 
11:48 PM
7
A: What's a good editor for (La)TeX programming?

David Carlisleemacs ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

 
@DavidCarlisle Haha I've seen enough of your "emacs" comments to know which you'd recommend.
Best part is the auto-bot message chastising you for your short answer.
 
@Dennis That answer is responsible for the vast majority of my downviotes. I blame vim users
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@Dennis Apparently it wasn't an autobot: our esteemed moderators added that by hand:-)
 
@JosephWright or @StefanKottwitz Ha, the OP of the question edited Aditya's answer in. So, now it’s doubled content. Again the link to Aditya's answer: tex.stackexchange.com/a/161206/9237.
 
@DavidCarlisle They should have included a wrist slap.
 
@DavidCarlisle Well honestly i dont know where those log files are found...
 
11:53 PM
@azetina I was just going by the message you quoted that indicated For details, see log file(s) in the (fmt/base/mem) dir(s).
 
but there is no fmt folder @DavidCarlisle. Is there one?
 
@azetina don't know, looking now:-) no...
 
lol @DavidCarlisle
 

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