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cfr
cfr
12:52 AM
@DavidCarlisle rewriting it is less ... easier.
cfr
cfr
1:02 AM
@DavidCarlisle thanks.
 
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7:12 AM
@CroCo, @DavidCarlisle Chrome on that formula, here.
Looks to me as if they do not use a rule, but some extensible minus or similar.
7:42 AM
interesting, I don't think I've seen that gap before I wonder what happened. I used `Version 127.0.6533.100 (Official Build) (64-bit)`
on windows
7:52 AM
@DavidCarlisle We saw a gap in MathML in chrome. Exactly one rule width, so that should easily be fixed. But I do not remembering seeing something in mathjax.
8:51 AM
low level Q: how does one cite a given commit on GitHub? I forgot to mention the issue id in my commit, so would want to cite the commit when I close it.
@daleif Just give the hash or short hash
@JosephWright with or without # infront?
(I don't use github much)
@daleif # is for an issue/PR - so just the hash
@JosephWright done
 
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10:37 AM
@mickep interesting. My Chrome is up to date. I'm wondering if there is another issue causing this problem from my side.
@CroCo well I see the gap but I suspect it's a regression (although I use firefox mostly so it's possible I never noticed that chrome did this)
10:50 AM
@DavidCarlisle but how come @mickep got better results using Chrome?
@CroCo because he got lucky?
@DavidCarlisle hahaha.
@CroCo it could be different build of chrome, different operating system, different locally installed fonts (this not so likely with mathjax) .... the web is a lot more hostile environment than tex which is designed to produce bitwise identical output on different platforms. On the web platform stuff changes and differences happen.
@DavidCarlisle I find web applications to be more stable than desktop apps. I have limited knowledge of JavaScript, as I mainly code in C/C++ and Matlab, which makes problem diagnosis more challenging.
@CroCo yes but tex isn't your average desktop app stability level, you can usually take a document from 1985 and process it with a current system and get identical output to the output obtained with a 1985 system.
11:03 AM
totally agreed.
@DavidCarlisle Tex is one of the very few software tools that has been meticulously designed, an exception among others.
This is why I asked initially, but my question was fallacious. Tex wasn't the culprit.
12:08 PM
Is there any reason why one does not have \bool_clear:N (alias for \bool_set_false:N), it would make the bool type more consistent with the various other types.
@DavidCarlisle It is not really the syntax highlighting I was after, more string completion (I probably just need to tell it that _ and : are parts of words.
cfr
cfr
12:50 PM
anybody know what might cause ["ERROR", "Technical problem encountered. Please contact the web master"] for a ctan upload with l3build? the data in the curlopts file looks OK (though I don't know what it should look like - it just looks sane-ish). --debug produced a great deal of output, most of which isn't obviously meaningful. ctan lists the error, but doesn't say what to do - only that it means the upload data couldn't be saved.
@daleif there is also no \int_clear:N. I'd say it's normal, clear are data containers, while bool/int/dim etc. are just simple types, so got no clear.
 
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2:03 PM
@cfr sounds more like an issue at their side, you could just try again. (despite having written most of that upload code I hardly ever dare use it and usually use the web form, so I can enter one-off notes, but it should work....)
@DavidCarlisle I use it for tagpdf and there is works ...
2:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle I used to use it regularly (back when I regularly pushed updates to CTAN...)
3:11 PM
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cfr
cfr
3:51 PM
@DavidCarlisle I already tried with and without tweaks to the data and with and without dry-run. I always get the same error.
@AlanMunn Oh, you are officially a beamer guru!
@cfr well if it's a sever issue, it may need to wait until someone finds some free time to fix it, you could try uploading the same zip via the web form that would tell you if the error is in the https post or in its validation of the zip
4:12 PM
@Skillmon my question of course extend to those as well. Right know you need to look up/memorize which type having a clear and know what the clear equivalent is for the types that does not have it
The ought to be a \type_clear:N for all types that reset the value to the same value a var has right after \type_new:N for a consistent interface.
4:52 PM
@daleif Actually, IIRC, there used to be \int_clear:N, but the team felt this wasn't right, because integer variables always have a “nonempty” value and, likewise, other variables such as dimensions, skips, fps. Thus _zero was introduced for these types. One can “clear” token lists, sequences and so on, meaning that they're set to empty.
cfr
cfr
@DavidCarlisle the main reason i tried l3build upload was because I invariably screw up the web form in some way which requires one of the overworked ctan people to chase me for corrections.
[I forget what I did last time and/or ctan change what they want.]
@cfr Usually if I get something wrong there is something wrong in the zipped files eg wrong date in a readme, so auto-upload wouldn't help
cfr
cfr
@DavidCarlisle oh, I do that, too. just I don't only do that. though some of the other things wouldn't be caught by auto-upload either.
cfr
cfr
5:22 PM
@DavidCarlisle it accepted the same zip via the web. presumably that does whatever checks are automated in the same way? but the data for the upload config in l3build doesn't seem to quite map onto the data required for the web form. (but shouldn't I have gotten some more meaningful error if that was the problem?)
5:37 PM
@cfr sure but ["ERROR", "Technical problem encountered. means there was some unexpected error on the server so something crashed so you can't really expect a meaningfull high level error
5:47 PM
@daleif What @egreg said
cfr
cfr
5:58 PM
@DavidCarlisle oh. so it could be the data, but not the zip? or it could be something else.
@cfr yes or the server could have run out of disk space or dropped a network connection or... it might not have been anything wrong on your side at all
cfr
cfr
6:19 PM
@DavidCarlisle thanks. (induction says the chances of it not being my fault are negligible.)
@cfr a good policy is: if in doubt, blame someone else
cfr
cfr
7:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle you don't do such stupid things.
cfr
cfr
7:40 PM
@DavidCarlisle either I'm missing something basic or, contra l3build's doc, repository can't be multiple ... if I substitute a single value, it validates, even if other fields have multiple values e.g. topic is ok,
but I guess l3build would also ideally not accept multiple values i.e. not just a doc issue?
@cfr yes the code has ` ctan_field("repository", uploadconfig.repository, 255, "URL(s) of source repositories", false, true )` and that final true means it takes multiple values, let me check what ctan says....
hmm ctan.org/help/submit implies it's a single value, I orginally cross checked against ctan's perl uploader, I thought but it was a while ago, probably l3build is wrong...
@cfr if you try ctan-o-mat --init to get a template uploader for ctan-o-mat then it says
% This field contains the version management.
% The value is optional.
% The value is a URL.
% The value is restricted to 255 characters.
% Multiple values are allowed.
\repository{}
allowing multiple repositories. I wonder if that actually works..
@cfr what error message do you get with a list of repos?
cfr
cfr
8:53 PM
@DavidCarlisle just what I posted earlier:
Warnings from CTAN package validation:
[["ERROR","Technical problem encountered. Please contact the web master"]]
 
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cfr
cfr
11:59 PM
@DavidCarlisle ??

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