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cfr

01:52

@Atex labelling axes, drawing grids, constructing timelines, adding to or creating any thing where there is some pattern to the things ... whether any of that is 'constructive' is a moot point (in the british sense - not the american one).

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David Carlisle

10:26

@Atex I don't really understand your comment. There is nothing really specific to tikz, more or less any program in any programming language will have a loop somewhere if it isn't just a small example.

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David Carlisle

12:17

anyone with miktex care to test github.com/latex3/latex2e/issues/1546 ?

Or I could just blame @UlrikeFischer

mickep

@DavidCarlisle What is easiest for you?

David Carlisle

@mickep well I may do the latter anyway

How is it possible to read this error message as "Report a bug to the core latex repository"?

! Package latexbug Error: Third-party file(s)
(latexbug)
(latexbug)                This test file uses third-party file(s)
(latexbug)
(latexbug)                ==============
(latexbug)                perltex.sty
(latexbug)                ==============
(latexbug)
(latexbug)                So you should contact the authors
(latexbug)                of these files, not the LaTeX Team!
(latexbug)                (Or remove the packages that load
(latexbug)                them, if they are not necessary to

mickep

I read it as "please bug the LaTeX Team!"

David Carlisle

@mickep you are not a great linguist like what I is

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle I added a comment (and it dies on texlive 2024 but not in 2022)

mickep

12:24

@DavidCarlisle If you scramble some words and so on, and make up your own, not so difficult.

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer what version of perl do you have in each case?

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle v5.38.0 (not completly sure if perltex in texlive uses that)

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer hmm I have 5.36 on cywin and 5.34 in wsl2/ubuntu, so it's possible they added more checks (perl syntax checking has got tighter over the years)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer In the middle of rebuilding my VM setup so not the best time for me to check :)

I don't have Perl on the VM - @UlrikeFischer you using Strawberry or ?

Ulrike Fischer

12:56

@JosephWright "using" is saying to much, I have it installed.

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Well yes - as I'm setting up Win11 working out which to go with

BTW, I tired the PowerShell as default terminal for about 20s, couldn't work out how it deals with the path - decided it's stupid and gave up - either use the classical Command Prompt or a Unix approach, not some bonkers netiehr-of-the-above

David Carlisle

13:19

@JosephWright I suspect you are not alone

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cfr

18:40

@JosephWright codeberg.org/cfr/nfssext/issues/7#issue-914262 (not sure where to put this)

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Skillmon

21:30

I wonder why @UlrikeFischer suggests zref-clever instead of cleveref :)

Ulrike Fischer

21:41

@Skillmon ;-). I'm currently wondering if I dare to disable the cleveref patches for hyperref completly github.com/latex3/hyperref/issues/361#issuecomment-2465129547

Joseph Wright

22:01

@DavidCarlisle :)

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Atex

23:01

Does anyone here know whether it could be (or is) possible to wrap text around a centered figures/tables like illustrated here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/309896/318574
I saw in the wrapfig documentation that it's explicitly mentioned that this functionality is not supported, and it isn't mentioned in the wrapfig2 package documentation, either, so I'm assuming it isn't possible in that package as well? Is it even possible at all, or could there be a package designed for this purpose in the future?

David Carlisle

23:13

A: How do you create pull quotes?

I wrote a package pullquote which allows to create circular as well as rectangular inserts. See Two-column text with circular insert.

@Atex or for the easier single column case cutwin package

Q: How to embedding the clipping values from illustrator image

Here I using cutwin package for clipping images wrap around text and the values of each and every line need manual intervention. I have an illustrator clipping values of the image. Is there any possible way to embedding the values into LaTeX. MWE: \documentclass{book} \usepackage{cutwin,wrapfi...

Atex

23:33

@DavidCarlisle nice to see that it's possible to do so, both for single and 2-column layouts! It does seem a bit strange that these features are scattered throughout different packages, however. I'd personally expect that all of this should be included in the wrapfig2 package, because they all serve the same purpose: Wrapping text around objects, right? And thus, you shouldn't need to load a different package for "center wrapping" and "left and right wrapping".

This does raise another question, however: Is it possible to develop a "complete" wrapped text package in the future?