@Rmano you could use the IoT images to build circuitikz. I heard those guys are great. :)

@TeXnician ^^ ooh

also quack

@PauloCereda but do it before lunch or it will be too late

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@TeXnician see Norbert's comment tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2023-March/048954.html

@DavidCarlisle people should start using Windows + Cygwin?

@PauloCereda it's naturally leading the way, and already gone from there

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@DavidCarlisle What was the argument that is should be removed? (I find this whole thing a bit strange/silly. As far as I can tell luametatex is the simplest thing to compile yourself, with almost no dependences...)

@PauloCereda I'd love to, but I am at level zero using docker or a similar thing ;-). I'd need a "guíaburros" (a nice Spanish term that literally means "instruction for donkeys" and practically "instructions for idiots") and time...

@mickep well, I failed to compile it... But I think Norbert's comment was that the current tl2023 situation of lmt not being compiled as part of the build but taken as binary from contextgarden is unlikely to be workable for debian. That doesn't mean debian would not have context but that it would be a separate debian pakage with a contextgarden upstream. But I'm not in the loop it may just sort itself out.

@Rmano ooh I've no idea of Docker either, but we have the IoT Docker team that can guide you through at some point. :)

@DavidCarlisle Yes, well, we'll see what happens. Regarding cygwin, did you try mingw crosscompliation?

@Rmano ooh dickimaw-books.com/blog/…

@mickep it's our fault that David is still using Cygwin. :)

@PauloCereda Hysch... :)

@PauloCereda He seems very eager to try context lmtx out, though. :)

@mickep ooh

@mickep no, but can that cross compile to cygwin? wouldn't that just give me a windows binary? But the real issue isn't cygwin: texlive has an automake/confgure build system that adapts to all kinds of minority platforms, *bsd, solaris, cygwin, arm-linux,... lmt has opted out of that which doesn't affect 99.9% of users probably but does complicate building lmt as part of texlive

@DavidCarlisle Yes, that should work, as far as I have heard (but not tested). Regarding minority platforms, I don't know how it works, but at least some BSD and arm linux are mentioned at the install page.

706602 :( people are so careless accepting answers at inconvenient times.

@DavidCarlisle do you need an unaccept? :)

@mickep see redhat package maintainer now reporting issues with context-in-texlive

@DavidCarlisle So, why did they not simply include the source? Or what do I miss?

@mickep not my call, probably if they included the source and type make something broke, I don't know the back story why it's using binaries from contextgarden not compiling from source

@DavidCarlisle most importantly, it's not our fault

@PauloCereda I blame @UlrikeFischer

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@DavidCarlisle Maybe the 12MB was too big. :)

I like to keep some subfolders and files private/hidden from the public or collaborators while sharing my LaTeX project. Is it possible in Overleaf? If so, how can I do it? And if not, are there any alternative methods to do it?

@raf share a saved copy of the project after deleting the private folders?

@PauloCereda See skype

@raf No

@raf You can't compile main.tex without access to preamble.tex here, so it makes no sense

@JosephWright well, suppose the toolchain can access preamble.tex, but the user can't (while he can launch the toolchain), this could make sense. But I guess no platform will support this out of the box.

@Skillmon yes, that's what I meant.

@raf you could provide a stub preamble.tex.

Both files would be kept in the same directory so that the overleaf compiler can access it but one is hidden from the viewers or collaborators.

@Skillmon sorry, what do you mean?

@raf no if their tex can see the file, they can see it.

@DavidCarlisle not if the toolchain hides it (well, obviously they could manipulate the TeX file such that it prints the entire file contents into the log, such that they could see them, regardless of the toolchain's efforts).

@raf in conclusion: As soon as you provide the real file, they can read the real file, and there is nothing you can do against it. If they can run TeX on it, they can get the file contents.

@raf so my suggestion is: Let them edit your files, but don't provide your real preamble.tex. Assume the information you want to hide from them is your real name. You could use \newcommand\myname{CENSORED} instead of \newcommand\myname{John Doe} in the preamble.tex you provide them.

@Skillmon exactly. If you can do \input{preamble} you can do \verbatiminput{preamble} and see the contents

@raf then why do you mind that they are private? Just tell your collaborators that they can focus on file X.

(have some trust in others)

@Skillmon I have :)

@Skillmon I am currently doing it.

I was just wondering if there are any alternative methods.

@raf it's certainly possible in theory for example I can share this with you and you can edit it, you would not be able to directly access the secret amsmath.sty but could verbatim print it texlive.net/…

@Skillmon do you trust me?

@DavidCarlisle yes, that's what I was trying to mean. I want to keep some files hidden in the way amsmath.sty is hidden here.

@DavidCarlisle not sure whether I should search for the "You're mean" or the "You're not mean" message and answer accordingly...

@DavidCarlisle but aside from that: Regarding LaTeX packages etc. I do.

@raf it's not worth it (and you can edit there but not save, allowing file save means having accounts and logins and file access, and gets you back to looking like overleaf

I know, I meant I want to do that on overleaf.

Anyway, thank you, everyone.

@raf you could contact Overleaf's support and ask them directly whether this is possible.

@Skillmon yes, I did and got a reply from them saying "Unfortunately, this feature is not available at the moment. I have passed your message to our product team as a vote for this to be implemented in the future."

@raf Yep, that would be nice... set up a project, give permission to write only some files to collaborators, and inhibit save if the compilation gives error :evil grin:

Got a downvote on this answer. I guess someone is taking the "This answer is not useful" function of the down arrow very literally.

@AlanMunn I should down vote it for bias, where is the Union Flag 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@DavidCarlisle Well this downvote was useful to me since now I'm back in palindrome mode assuming someone accepts my most recent answer. So take your jingoism elsewhere. :)

@mickep have you got a small context lmt math is better than latex example?

@Rmano :v

@DavidCarlisle I have no ready made examples. But you can do \setupbodyfont[dejavu]\starttext $f_0$ \stoptext if you want to compare with this.

(If you haven't got the cross compiling to work yet)

grr https://texlive.net/run?%25%20!TeX%20context%0A%5Csetupbodyfont%5Bdejavu%5D%5Cstarttext%20$f_0$%20%5Cstoptext

@mickep texlive.net/…$f_0$%20%5Cstoptext

@mickep I have a tex server:-)

@JosephWright @StefanKottwitz ^^^ 2023

@DavidCarlisle This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.25 (TeX Live 2023) - nice! (in the example case of course ConTeXt ver: 2023.03.10)

texlive.net/…

@DavidCarlisle Oh, so now you are up and running. Nice! :)

@mickep ah ^^ I need to % quote $ so it auto-links here

@DavidCarlisle Test

@DavidCarlisle ^ There you see with and without tweaks... Dejavu is generously spaced.

@mickep ah, thanks

@DavidCarlisle (The zero is raised a bit, but that is a font parameter that is adapted slightly)

texlive.net/…

@mickep improved url quoting so update puts a URL in clipboard that auto-links here

@DavidCarlisle Oh, improvements.

Oh, they moved the "Related questions" to below the question.

To unanswered questions, it seems.

@mickep so they have, can't say it's an improvement :-)

@DavidCarlisle I guess one gets used to it, but that was also my first impression.

@mickep It sounds as if it was only planned for SO and not the rest of the network (for now)

@samcarter Ah, thanks!

@raf Change your TEXINPUTS variable to search all subfolders of your working directory and then don't worry about paths at all

@raf why call all your images image? that's like calling all packages package.sty and having to configure paths so \usepackage{package} finds the right file

actually, it's from lectures notes where 20230218/1.pdf means that 1st diagram of the class lecture on 18-03-2023. and similarly, 20230219/1.pdf means that 1st diagram of the class lecture on 19-03-2023.

@raf I'd edit \put(0,0){\includegraphics[width=\unitlength,page=1]{image.pdf}}% to \put(0,0){\includegraphics[width=\unitlength,page=1]{20230218/image.pdf}}%

But then, I have to edit the line in each *pdf_tex file. :|

@raf shrug, you have to decide to save the files with the same name each time as well. But if you don't want to edit the file just change \graphcspath in each lecture

:63221625
I was trying this way:
```
\newcommand{\incfig}[1]{%
\def\svgwidth{\columnwidth}
\import{./figures/}{#1.pdf_tex}
}
```
\begin{figure}
    \centering
    \incfig{20230318/image}
    \caption{Gauge field as information carrier.}
    \label{fig:gauge2}
\end{figure}

but it didn't work.

@barbarabeeton Regarding the \bigcupdot and \bigcapdot, only the first seems to have a Unicode slot.

@mickep -- I'm digging through the woefully restricted records I have access to for STIX requests, and it looks like that didn't make the list. Rats! I will make a request through Murray Sargent directly to Unicode. But if they insist on a published in-context example, I'll have to ask for help.

@barbarabeeton it's not in the version of your stix ascii file that I have either

@DavidCarlisle -- Yes, I had to retrieve that from the old AMS site. Do you know if Murray is still the MS rep to the UTC?

@DavidCarlisle -- do you know how to search source files at arXiv for the presence of symbol code?

@barbarabeeton google site:https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org bigcapdot but it only shows one paper and if I view source I only see bigcap

@barbarabeeton Go to arxiv.org, top right, to the right of the search box, change "All fields" to "Full text". If you want to search for \lambda you should type $\lambda$ (according to the help text).

@barbarabeeton I think Murray is still on UTC

(I get no hits for $\bigcupdot$ or $\bigcapdot$.)

@samcarter "There should be a lot of duplicates of this problem." many by same OP:-)

@DavidCarlisle Maybe some kind of tradition to repeat this question every spring - just like others celebrate it by installing the new texlive :)