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6:03 AM
@PauloCereda Nothing to find there. :P
 
 
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Would the following be a reliable test of whether a token that is not an explicit character token of category 1 or 2 or 6 is a control word token: If \detokenize returns one more trailing space than \string, then it is a control word token?
 
8:38 AM
@DavidCarlisle Oh, I thought it was numerical integration in MathML...
 
 
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10:02 AM
@UlrichDiez As far as I can tell, yes. The LaTeX kernel does \edef\reserved@a{\string#1}\edef\reserved@b{\detokenize{#1}} then \ifx\reserved@a\reserved@b to tell if something is a control symbol or control word
 
@PhelypeOleinik Thanks. :-) The \ifx-comparison takes the \else-branch both for a control-word-token and for an explicit character token of category 6...
 
@UlrichDiez Yeah, it's not 100% safe if the user is naughty. That code is used for example in \DeclareRobustCommand, so it's reasonable to assume that people expect \DeclareRobustCommand #{} or something like that to fail eventually :)
 
10:53 AM
@JosephWright So we can close github.com/josephwright/beamer/issues/659 ?
 
@samcarter Yes
 
@JosephWright done :) For github.com/josephwright/beamer/issues/772 I'd like to wait in case this mysterious theme is causing some other problems besides this "gray is the new black" business
 
@samcarter Sure: there could be more to this
 
@JosephWright about your l3color comment: is the plan to just make sure that black is black or will there be a set of "safe" base colours?
 
@samcarter The idea would be to fix white, black, red, green, blue, cyan, magenta, yellow
@samcarter At the moment it's more a thought than a solid plan :)
 
11:08 AM
@JosephWright fixing blue would break the tlc3 as it is changed to use a spotcolor (and to give a different blue) ....
 
@UlrikeFischer I still think it makes sense ... but at the moment like I said more an idea
@UlrikeFischer At a LaTeX level that would be spotblue, surely?
 
@JosephWright Personally my dream would be to have two versions: the normal colours I could change to adjust to the current colour scheme and a safe copy of unchangeable base colours I could use for mixing colours.
 
@JosephWright well the examples use blue, red, yellow (and the last two then give some shade of gray). And I have seen many examples which redefine red to give a better red. Imho if you want to fix it, you will need new names, e.g. DeviceRGBred.
@samcarter true blue like true cm ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer yes :)
 
 
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12:17 PM
@samcarter @UlrikeFischer @JosephWright "black is black", "true blue", "true colors" --- yay, 80's music today!
...well, 80's with a lot of asymmetrical uncertainty...
 
@Rmano feature request for l3colour: play the appropriate song when using these colours :)
 
12:33 PM
@samcarter @JosephWright had the perfect tile for a keynote (any colour you like) and the perfect background (DSotH, H being hummingbird), but after that he went back to boring default beamer with no theming. Also 4:3!
 
@Rmano yep :)
 
@PauloCereda :) that was so beautiful!
 
@samcarter until slide 2 :)
 
@PauloCereda :P
 
12:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle So, I asked Hans about setting the spacings, and he answered "Hi Plain TeX User...". :) But he also added support for it, so in the latest bin this works:
\starttext

\def\test#1#2%
   {\begingroup
    #1\relax
    #2\relax
    \writestatus{t1}{\the\mathatomglue\mathbinarycode\mathordinarycode\textstyle  }
    \writestatus{s1}{\the\mathatomglue\mathordinarycode\mathbinarycode\scriptstyle}
    \writestatus{t2}{\space\space\the\binordspacing\textstyle  }
    \writestatus{s2}{\space\space\the\ordbinspacing\scriptstyle}
    $k-1 <> 2^{k-1}$
    \vskip-.9\lineheight
    \endgroup}

\test{}{}

\test{\binordspacing\scriptstyle\binordspacing\textstyle}
      {\ordbinspacing\scriptstyle\ordbinspacing\textstyle}
 
1:06 PM
@mickep I think I need glasses.
 
@Skillmon hehe, I understand your feeling. :)
 
1:18 PM
@mickep You could sell this as "beer simulator" -- how a font looks after a couple of beers :)
 
1:29 PM
@UlrikeFischer That is also a possible
 
1:52 PM
@PauloCereda Savage
 
@mickep thanks
 
 
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2:58 PM
@PhelypeOleinik ooh
 
 
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7:11 PM
Brace yourselves: GitHub now offers math support in Markdown via MathJax.
 
7:22 PM
@PauloCereda Ohh
 
 
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9:25 PM
@PauloCereda ^^
 
9:43 PM
@DavidCarlisle Pretty crappy rendering of the left arrow. :)
 
9:59 PM
@AlanMunn sadly picture mode \vector not supported
 

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