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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:05 AM
So US is out. Now the soccer fever has ended for them, I guess. :)
 
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez
12:30 AM
is there a way to create a label and provide it the way to print in refs?
I am makign a list of axiioms with names that look like $A_1$, $RS$ and so on, and I'd like references to them to repeat that name, but to reuse the labellng mechansm
hm, that's different
 
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez
Mariano Suárez-Alvarez
1:12 AM
I will never learn what the horizonatal parameters in lists are
and all copies of the documentation of enumitem should be burned in cleansing ritual :-/
 
 
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Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
7:44 AM
2
Q: Align top of images using subcaption

MattI'm trying to align the tops of two images using the subfigure environment from the subcaption package. Unless I'm misinterpreting the other questions, I believe I have read multiple questions asking the same, here and here are two examples. The problem is, those answers don't seem to work as I e...

graphics subcaption
What do people make of the dupe here: it's been queried by the OP as the questions are about different things (while the answers are similar). I can see a case here for reopening with an answer pointing to the current dupe.
 
Will Robertson
Will Robertson
8:31 AM
Argh why do I ever update my code? Damn bugs that I can never fix fast enough during the week… On the plus side, it seems that quite a few people use my code, which is a pretty scary thought.
 
Heiko Oberdiek
Heiko Oberdiek
@JosephWright Same gravatar and user name as the daily spammer "ling": tex.stackexchange.com/users/56431/ling
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@WillRobertson :-)
@HeikoOberdiek Zapped
 
Will Robertson
Will Robertson
@JosephWright If only I could write things correctly the first time :)
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Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@WillRobertson Yup
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@WillRobertson How about blaming someone else? :)
 
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
8:49 AM
@WillRobertson At least with TeX debugging is real fun. Nothing more refreshing than hunting down some incomprehensible behaviour caused by forgetting to give a macro argument which then gobbled some \fi token (or forgetting a group around a \loop construct, or forgetting to end a \hskip :-)
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
9:42 AM
@Johannes_B I learned it from my grandma. But that was more than 20 years ago and I haven't used it since... so I probably can't write in it any more :)
 
Brent.Longborough
Brent.Longborough
@egreg At the (usual) risk of being thought frivolous, Sütterlin reminds me a little of Cornic Sarıs
 
 
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
11:27 AM
@MarianoSuárez-Alvarez if you have a counter mycounter and \themycounter is $A_{\arabic{mycounter}$ then \ref should print that form
@WillRobertson the TeX way is to write it first then declare that behaviour to be correct.
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Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
11:42 AM
@DavidCarlisle s/TeX/DPC/
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
12:28 PM
@cgnieder You just need to practice again. You never know, it might be useful sometime.
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
12:48 PM
@Johannes_B probably... when I was a kid (10 or 11y old) I had a thing for calligraphy and different scriptures. Unfortunately I forgot most of it when I became a teenager... :)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@cgnieder Do you remember first class? Instead of marks/grade we had just a smiling sun (very good) getting cloudier to a heavy rain. I just read @Brent.Longborough`s` comment on Sütterlin and i want to give him a rainy mark.
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
1:19 PM
@Johannes_B a little... I remember Quiesel :)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
1:30 PM
@cgnieder I never heard of Quiesel, but it/he/she looks terrifying.
 
Brent.Longborough
Brent.Longborough
2:03 PM
@Johannes_B But I did say a little ... :-)
 
LaRiFaRi
LaRiFaRi
2:44 PM
Hi there. Is there some Meta-Reference on whether such a question tex.stackexchange.com/q/187633 should be considered as too localized. I just wanted to vote for close but was not so sure after all. It's kind of a "do it for me" or "debug for me" or "code review" without MWE issue. And it will never help anyone.
letting apart it's using some extra documentclass...
(and of course I mean closing it AFTER writing the "there is a { missing in line xy" comment)
 
 
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Werner
Werner
4:22 PM
For those interested; 3 more badges were just introduced:
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Q: Asking days badges

Jon EricsonA couple of months ago, I suggested a set of badges for asking questions. The responses were... mixed. The top answer can be summarized: In practice, all this would do is encourage people to ask yet more stupid, worthless questions and we have quite enough of that as it is. We believe that ...

feature-request status-completed questions badges
Curious (bronze), Inquisitive (silver), Socratic (gold)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner Yes, just got one
 
Werner
Werner
Sorry @egreg and @DavidCarlisle, you're out of luck... :)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner Any idea what 'maintains a positive question record' means?
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@Brent.Longborough :-)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
Seems a bit unfair to discount closed questions: could be dupes of hard-to-find stuff
 
Werner
Werner
4:25 PM
@JosephWright Yes (see the linked post):
(total questions - negative questions - closed - deleted)/total questions >= 0.5
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner Found it :-)
@Werner Also counts stuff twice or even three times: is this really a good idea?
 
Werner
Werner
@JosephWright You mean if it's closed and voted down?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
May influence the idea of closing questions at all: seems to now be actively negative thing to do
@Werner Closed and deleted by e.g. community would count twice
 
Werner
Werner
@JosephWright No, I would not think of these badges when voting to close.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner Problem for us with 'off topic by convention' for say stuff that gets fixed by a package update: this may well not be the fault of the person asking
 
Werner
Werner
4:27 PM
@JosephWright Mmmm, one would assume they thought about this (I haven't read the linked thread and whether it includes double-counting).
@JosephWright I know... but is that really isolated to a single individual where it would be a problem?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner True, probably not going to hit anyone
@Werner Did you see the ELL answer: they will have very few of any of these, while we'll get I think a lot of the bronze one
 
Werner
Werner
@JosephWright Yes, I think that was a good analysis of how a new badge hierarchy will be awarded/introduced.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Werner Checking, they don't come out so bad in reality (about 500 bronze, while we have about 2k)
 
Werner
Werner
@JosephWright Yup...
 
egreg
egreg
4:53 PM
@Werner I have 1522 bronze badges, I can live without those. :P
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg Oh, aren't you curious...? ;)
 
egreg
egreg
Today I took a day of for meeting with an old family friend in Venice. He's about ninety (his birthday will be at the end of September); we walked all the way from S. Marco to the railway station.
@Werner No. ;-)
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg How far is/was that?
 
egreg
egreg
5:21 PM
@Werner According to Google maps it's 3.3 km (with several bridges to cross)
See our itinerary: tinyurl.com/q479tfo
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg Strange how I feel you live in such a beautiful part of the world, yet living on Vancouver Island is just as beautiful.
I loved Italy when I visited it a couple of years ago (not in that area) - Rome... of course.
 
egreg
egreg
@Werner It's really hard to believe. ;-)
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg I guess when you're 90, you don't feel 90.
@egreg Hard to believe that Vancouver Island is beautiful, or that your neck of the woods is just more beautiful than everywhere else in the world?
 
egreg
egreg
@Werner He surely doesn't. By the way, during the last fall he was diagnosed leukemia, so he underwent heavy therapy. It was just after he was 89. Now he's good. The list of diseases he suffered of is quite long, but he's very bold: very tough German.
@Werner Hard to believe that living in Vancouver is as beautiful as living here. ;-)
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg Wow... diagnosis at that age can be tough, but tough Germans is a good foundation.
 
egreg
egreg
5:32 PM
@Werner Nobody can say to have visited Italy without having seen Florence and Venice, besides Rome, of course.
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg Then I haven't visited Italy (completely).
 
egreg
egreg
@Werner Then one needs to see Perugia, Palermo, Naples, Milan, Genoa, Bologna, Mantova, Turin and some other towns. Padova should be in every list and Verona deserves a visit.
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg The next time I have two months off... I'll include those in my scheduled visit and see your bridges...
...now that I'm a Canadian citizen, travelling in the European Union is much easier.
 
Canageek
Canageek
Morning all
@Werner Congratulations! Welcome to Canada!
What part of the country are you in?
@Werner Holy cow, you live right by me, I was out on the island just a couple of weeks ago.
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek I went to be before midnight last night (on Canada Day).
@Canageek Vancouver Island, yes... just outside Victoria.
It's beautiful here (hint, hint @egreg). :D
 
Canageek
Canageek
5:45 PM
@Werner Ah, I was up in Comox --I've got a lot of family there.
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek Ahhh, nice. A couple hours' drive from where I live.
I just became a beekeeper a couple of weeks ago, so things have been busy these last couple of weekends with bee-related stuff. :-|
Any beekeepers around here?
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner I had a relative in Comox who was a beekeeper, but he died a couple of years ago.
(He was 90, and we weren't close)
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek We were too late in getting bees last year, so I spent a year "studying" and built everything from scratch...
...suddenly we have 3 hives.
@Canageek Well, next time you're in the area, let me know and I'll buy you a beer. :)
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner Cool, I'll let you know. I don't drive, so it is hard for me to get from Comox to Victoria, but I'll let you know if I ever wind up down there. Let me know if you are ever in Vancouver.
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek M'kay. You don't drive...?
 
Canageek
Canageek
5:53 PM
@Werner Not at all, don't have my license or a car.
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek Going rogue...
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner Not like you need one in Vancouver. Great transit system.
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek True... and in the Greater Victoria area it's also good. Perhaps not to the extent as it is in the GVRD.
However, I can get from Sooke to Swartz Bay Ferry Terminal - roughly 60km for $2.50.
I live in Langford though.
It's a little more expensive in Vancouver.
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner SFU gives me a free bus pass, so I can get to the ferry terminal for free when I go over to Grandmas. The bus up island is $30 each way though, and the ferry is almost $20
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek So you take the Horseshoe Bay - Nanaimo Ferry?
@Canageek Do you teach at SFU?
 
Canageek
Canageek
6:08 PM
@Werner I'm a M.Sc. student at SFU.
 
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
Servus
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek Hard at work then between TeX - LaTeX, Cthulhu and studying...
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner heh, several of those were written before I started grad school, but yeah. You'll note I'm on here a lot less in the last year.
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek The ebb-and-flow of StackExchange...
...there's also been a shift on Stack Overflow, with Jon Skeet giving way to others...
...or others just butting in.
I guess he decided he'd step out for a while after receiving his unicorn portrait.
Blog - Stack Exchange: What Happens When You Reach 200k Reputation?
Jeff Atwood on September 01, 2010

Have you ever wondered what happens when you reach 200,000 reputation?

Just ask Jon Skeet.

Apparently, what happens is … you get a painting of unicorns, signed by us, dedicated to you.

Estimated value? Priceless!

Joel and I actually sat down with Mr. Skeet himself to record Stack Overflow podcast #72 during the London leg of DevDays — in the very Google offices pictured here.

Although we sometimes joke that Stack Overflow was accidentally constructed as the ultimate Jon Skeet honeypot, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that Jon has a long history of answering people’s  …

Knuth mentioned TeX - LaTeX in a recent TUGBoat article... does anyone have a reference to the question he... references?
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner We should bug @egreg to demand a unicorn portrait.
 
egreg
egreg
6:21 PM
@Canageek No unicorn, unfortunately. :(
 
Werner
Werner
Here is a reference to the reference of Knuth referencing TeX - LaTeX:
Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #58 – Pack ‘Em In Like Bees
Abby T. Miller on May 19, 2014

Welcome to Stack Exchange Podcast #58 brought to you by the Stack Exchange iOS app! Our hosts Joel Spolsky, David Fullerton, and Jay Hanlon are joined this week by our guests, the Stack Exchange Design Team: Jin Yang, Stéphane “The French Guy” Martin, Courtny Cotten, and Josh Hynes.

Let’s kick things off with Community Milestones (assuming Joel knows where he is).

Joomla! IHOP dot com is a Joomla! site.

IHOP dot com is a Joomla! site.

Unrelated: Donald Knuth mentioned our TeX site in a recent TUGboat. …

 
egreg
egreg
I got a mug and a laptop bag, though.
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg ...at 200K?
 
egreg
egreg
@Werner Yes.
 
Werner
Werner
@egreg I got a shirt, a nice fleece "jacket", a hoodie and some stickers.
I should have visited their offices when I was a New York a while back...
...but it completely slipped my mind.
 
Canageek
Canageek
6:26 PM
Huh
How on earth do I type "[Re(–C≡C–R)(CO)3(N∩N)]" in LaTeX? o.0
Anyone have any ideas?
Really, how do I type ≡ and ∩
I guess \equiv can be abused for this....
 
Werner
Werner
@Canageek $\equiv$ and $\cap$
 
Canageek
Canageek
@Werner Thanks, I remembered Detexify right after I asked. It has been a while since I've used LaTeX for anything other then citation formatting.
Though, if I can get a decent set of characterization I should be able to write a paper soon....
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Canageek what's ∩? The triple bond is easy wich chemformula: \ch{C+C} or \ch{C\bond{triple}C} or \ch{C\bond{tp}C}
 
Canageek
Canageek
@cgnieder I have no idea, I haven't read the full paper yet.
@cgnieder Ah, next line of the title: "(N ∩ N = 2,2-bipy, phen)"
 
Werner
Werner
Does @barbarabeeton ever visit chat?
 
Canageek
Canageek
6:32 PM
@cgnieder Just a fancy short form
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Canageek is that a chelate?
 
Canageek
Canageek
@JosephWright Yeah, common ligand for use with MOFs and coordination polymers. Bidentate nitrogen ligand made of used aromatics.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Canageek Normally then not \cap, more likely ^ or a curve
 
Canageek
Canageek
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{chemformula}

\NewChemBond{fancybipy}{
  \draw[chembond,draw=none]
    (chemformula-bond-start) -- node[above=-.76ex] {$\cap$} (chemformula-bond-end) ;
}

\begin{document}

\ch{[Re(-C+C-R)(CO)3(N\bond{fancybipy}N)]}

\ch{[Re(-C+C-R)(CO)3(N$\cap$N)]}

\end{document}
@Canageek ^^^^
Using TikZ would also allow to draw a curve
 
Canageek
Canageek
6:47 PM
@cgnieder Works perfectly, looks like what is in the journal title anyway.
I love how getting an NSERC means I get all my pay in a lump sum at the start of each semester. Not.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Canageek Gets done a few different ways, depending on the group who write it (I tend to use ^)
 
Canageek
Canageek
7:09 PM
@JosephWright Yeah, I've seen that before. I think I've seen U as well.
 
 
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Szabolcs
Szabolcs
8:38 PM
With RevTeX4.1, the \footnote can appear in the reference list (default). Can I refer to the same footnote ("reference number") more than once in the same document? I used \footnote command to refer to the supplementary material and I'd like to do this more than once.
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@Szabolcs Can you give us a minimal working example? This really helps in understanding the problem.
 
Szabolcs
Szabolcs
@Johannes_B I understand why that is usually necessary, but it seems that in this case if I have to do that, then there's no simple solution. Please see the guideline here, which says that a reference of the form See Supplemental Material at [URL will be inserted by publisher] for [give brief description of material]. must appear. In RevTeX if one types \footnote{abc}, it comes out as [12] abc in the reference list,
so I used the footnote command to refer to supplementary material. Each footnote command makes its own 'reference', however there must be only one reference to supplementary materieal, i.e. a single number in the ref list and a single short descritpion.
I need to refer multiple times to this single number.
If it's difficult, I might en up with a hack such as writing [12] literally ...
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@Szabolcs Don't do things manually. But right now, i don't understand the problem.
 
Szabolcs
Szabolcs
@Johannes_B Unfortunately I don't have time now. When I have time to make a minimal example, I will write up a clear question on the main site and include the example. It'll be good to learn how to do this properly in the future.
Please ignore the question for now.
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@Szabolcs Ok, good luck with that. I think the users here will find a solution.
@Szabolcs Remember, a minimal example helps in understanding as we don't sit in a room together.
 
Szabolcs
Szabolcs
8:49 PM
@Johannes_B I've answered my share of questions on SE so I know what you mean. I'll write it up eventually :)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@Szabolcs I just took a look at your profile, you are active on lots of sites. I should be more active as well.
 
 
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egreg
egreg
10:24 PM
We already have eight Socratic badges! tex.stackexchange.com/help/badges/407/socratic
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg is that a new badge? (how can we get one?)
@egreg what does well received mean?
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle It seems that, in order to get it, one has to ask questions. Many of them, actually. You might try, I haven't found the button, yet.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg are you planning a vsplit opus answer to the latest question? If you are I may skip it I'm too tired to look really:-)
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle Not tonight.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg OK let's leave it for the others for a bit:-)
 
egreg
egreg
10:40 PM
@DavidCarlisle I can't really understand what's the problem.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
11:36 PM
I got a curious badge. :P
 

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