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12:09 AM
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@PauloCereda Oops. Today you are really fast!
 
@Speravir I'm slow. :) I usually don't take 10 minutes. :)
 
@PauloCereda LOL.
 
12:32 AM
@Speravir It takes more getting 145 points for a single answer. :P Not on TeX.SX, though.
 
@egreg Emm, yes. I thought it would be easy for you . ;-) I achieved this very seldom. (Not to speak from the daily rep limit …)
 
@Speravir It was on Math.SE, a question about tables of logarithms. Well, I did use them!
 
@egreg And there they are parsimonious (?) with upvotes? On another note: I yesterday noticed the existence of mathoverflow.com. What’s the difference? (Rhetoric:) Is there any traffic? :-)
 
@Speravir Hard core math, I believe.
Good night all
 
12:50 AM
@egreg On All Sites - Stack Exchange mathoverflow.com is titled as “Q&A for professional mathematicians”, while math.SE is “Q&A for people studying math at any level and professionals in related fields”. Aha >:-/
@egreg Good night.
 
 
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7:54 AM
@DavidCarlisle @JosephWright I think it probably is
 
8:17 AM
@FrankMittelbach Reminds me of an xparse thing I was thinking about, or at least something that might go with xparse
Should things like the current \leavevmode be part of the 'code' implementing commands, or part of the 'interface layer'. One might imagine \DeclareDocumentCommand taking an optional argument for cases such as this, requiring math mode, the 'space hack', grouping the code (for keyvals), etc., as these are all things that one might argue are more to do with a particular interface than the underlying implementation.
 
Time for yet another SP trip. :) You guys behave. :)
 
@PauloCereda Have fun and be safe
 
@PauloCereda Have a lot of fun!
 
8:41 AM
@JosephWright it is a thought, but I would hold that a bit back for the time you bring those together, as it plays into the buildout of the galley model and if you provide this as a 2e layer the concepts may not fit eventually - just a thought
 
@FrankMittelbach At the moment just a thought: now Bruno seems to be back from honeymoon there are other things to get sorted
 
8:55 AM
@JosephWright he shouldn't be, I think --- poor Laure :-)
 
 
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10:18 AM
Heck, why can't you meet someone like @egreg when asking a question on another SE site?
 
pst
Hi, I'm new in this chat. A question (not my question) was just closed as duplicate because ti was misunderstood (I believe). (It's not my question; I was in the middle of answering it when it was closed, so that's why I noticed.) Is there anything to do except hope that the questioner wasn't scared away?
 
@pst Hi! Can you paste a link please? :)
 
pst
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Q: How to insert Tex into PDF?

LesterI have a PDF with a math excercise and space to write the solution. I know a bit math-related Tex like $ \sqrt2 = 2^{1/2} $. My goal is to print the result so I have excercise and solution on one page.

 
@pst It is indeed a very bad question very badly misunderstood as a duplicate.
 
pst
Are you (or anyone listening) someone who can anything about it?
 
10:26 AM
@pst I just cast a reopen vote. Tell me if you want to add a comment explaining why it's not a dupe, or should I do it?
 
@pst You can vote to reopen (just below the question) then ask here and if 5 (I think) people vote to reopen it is opened
 
pst
Ah, thanks. Will do. Had't seen that.
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure @pst can vote to reopen, you need some rep for that
 
pst
That's why I didn't find it. I'm saving the little rep I have to be able to offer a award hoping I'll get an answer to my own question. :-)
 
@tohecz Ah OK well @pst if you ask here people with enough rep can look and vote to reopen .
@pst you have 2 reopen votes so far:-)
 
10:29 AM
@DavidCarlisle who could it be? /whistle
 
pst
Then my part is done, I guess. Thanks!
 
 
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11:32 AM
@DavidCarlisle didn't you recently said: use picture mode as this doesn't have bugs? Try this: \documentclass{article}
\begin{document}


\setlength{\unitlength}{1cm}
\begin{center}
\begin{picture}(10,10)
\put(5,5){\line(2,-2){2}}
\end{picture}
\end{center}
\end{document}
 
@FrankMittelbach You forgot \usepackage{pict2e} :P
@FrankMittelbach The manual says that the coordinates after \line shouldn't have common divisors except 1 and –1
 
@egreg well :-) ... the bug db actually states this is "unfortunate bahvior and suspended ... I just came across finding regression tests not having a tlg
@egreg yes but arguably this should be caught and raise an error
 
@FrankMittelbach Yes, it should.
 
and not just generate a few arrow heads
 
12:16 PM
@pst Normally people ping the mods, often me!
 
1:12 PM
@FrankMittelbach I think he said it's not had a breaking changing since something like 1985: not the same thing :-)
 
 
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2:44 PM
@DavidCarlisle is this 9gag.com/gag/arp8bgy your Lego room?
 
@FrankMittelbach bad behaviour on user error isn't a bug:-)
@hugovdberg pretty close:-)
 
3:04 PM
@hugovdberg although probably aspire to be more like this one (which we saw close up at the weekend:-) bimmerboost.com/images/imported/2012/07/…
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@FrankMittelbach If you were going to catch it, no point raising an error, you may as well remove the factor and make it work.
 
3:31 PM
@DavidCarlisle awesome, does that turbine actually rotate?
 
@DavidCarlisle good point :-)
 
3:56 PM
:14414615
\documentclass{article}

\makeatletter
\gdef\line(#1,#2)#3{\@xarg #1\relax \@yarg #2\relax
  \@linelen #3\unitlength
\ifodd\@xarg\else\ifodd\@yarg\else\divide\@xarg\tw@\divide\@yarg\tw@\fi\fi
\ifodd\@xarg\else\ifodd\@yarg\else\divide\@xarg\tw@\divide\@yarg\tw@\fi\fi
\@tempcnta\ifnum\@xarg>\z@\@xarg\else-\@xarg\fi
\@tempcntb\ifnum\@yarg>\z@\@yarg\else-\@yarg\fi
\ifnum\@tempcnta=6 \@tempcnta\thr@@\fi
\ifnum\@tempcntb=6 \@tempcntb\thr@@\fi
\ifnum\@tempcnta=\thr@@\ifnum\@tempcntb=\thr@@
\divide\@xarg\thr@@\divide\@yarg\thr@@
@hugovdberg no (and it has sort of chunks missing from the sides so you can see the inner workings so it probably wouldn't fly too well:-)
 
4:18 PM
@DavidCarlisle \usepackage{pict2e} is easier. ;-)
 
@egreg well it's not easier for the user if we were to change the format (but changing the format is scary so it would end up in fixltx2e which then isn't much easier, it's true.
 
 
3 hours later…
7:06 PM
The good feeling when you manage to something you haven't managed before! :)
 
7:43 PM
For fun, I downloaded the file in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/166908/… and tried to compile it. 570 errors, 93 warnings. I suspect constructing an MWE may be somewhat difficult.
On a slightly more serious note, the file uses \begin{bf} ... \end{bf} to apply boldface. When was this the syntax for applying bold? (Is it related to the TeX command \bf?)
 
8:13 PM
@alexwlchan the point is that \begin{bf}...\end{bf} is equivalent to \begingroup\bf...\endbf\endgroup with the difference that \endbf need not be defined. You can call it a bad design decision
 
@alexwlchan You're a hero!
@alexwlchan Sorry for jumping over your good answer to the tabular question, but I feel that correcting badly laid out tables is a duty. ;-)
 
8:40 PM
Hi, I have an unzip question: I have an archive which has a top-level directory which I want to ignore. (so instead of texmf/tex/... it has base/tex/...) is there any way to tell unzip to unzip this into texmf without creating the base?
 
@tohecz: Ah, thanks.
@egreg Heh, no problem. I was half-tempted to mention booktabs, but didn’t in the end. Either way, they know now. :)
 
@alexwlchan Every command can be used in that way: \begin{foo} does \begingroup<some bookkeeping>\csname foo\endcsname and \end{foo} does \csname endfoo\endcsname<some bookkeeping>\endgroup. So, if \endfoo is not defined, nothing strange happens because \csname endfoo\endcsname is equivalent to \relax. But \begin{bf}...\end{bf} is appallingly wrong.
 
 
2 hours later…
11:23 PM
@WeirdstressFunction is your spring mass-less?
 
11:46 PM
@tohecz I don't know because it is not my drawing. :-)
 

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