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egreg
egreg
12:18 AM
@JosephWright Isn't this abusing the system?
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Q: Bode plots with complex zeros and poles (Please move to Math SX)

dustinPlease move to Math Stackexchange. I can only post on TeX SX without getting verify you are human. When I verify I am human, the CAPTCHA doesn't work. Very frustrating and annoy. I contact SX and they weren't helpful. Here are my tries at CAPTCHA and I tried about 30 different ones and ...

movethread
 
Speravir
Speravir
1:02 AM
No reaction of OP, unclear?
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Q: How can I get the ordinary polynomial long division by using polydiv like this?

azhiI want to get the following polynomial long division like this: But as you know, when I use command \polylongdiv (package polynom), I always get the following: How can I get the result as in the first picture? At present, I have no idea to do so. Here is my tex file: \documentclass{artic...

polynom
 
Nasser
Nasser
1:13 AM
Since Tikz seems to be able to do anything, I wonder if I can draw these engineering diagrams using Tickz
:)
Ok, may be that is too hard. How about this:
Can TickZ do the above?
may be with a big macro
 
 
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jtbandes
jtbandes
5:10 AM
I'm having a problem with \newsavebox/\sbox/\usebox inside fancyhdr. It seems that if I do \fancypagestyle{mystyle}{\newsavebox{..}\sbox{..}{..} ... \chead{...\usebox{..}...}} then it doesn't work if that page style is used for more than one page. Is there some caveat I'm missing?
 
 
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Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
7:42 AM
@egreg Well we are not meant to migrate stuff like this, so I've left a comment
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
7:59 AM
@cfr As I've said in comments on your biblatex question, my feeling is that you've found a bug related to the 'stability' of using the ids field rather than anything to do with \bibliography versus \addbibresource
I'm not actually a big fan of \addbibresource: I've have favoured simply extending \bibliography, which I guess I'll push for if we ever get to a LaTeX3 'biblatex-like' bibliography system
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Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
8:40 AM
@GonzaloMedina Now. :-)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
9:20 AM
OK, who starred that? :-)
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@JosephWright It was me ;-)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@MarcoDaniel :-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
9:37 AM
@cmhughes Oh I missed it. I'll take a look later on today. Thanks, Chris. :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
9:50 AM
@egreg: ready for today's big game?
 
Code Mocker
Code Mocker
10:36 AM
@Nasser Use SolidWorks for such diagrams because it provides us with much more features: simulation, cost optimizer, etc.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
10:49 AM
For interest :-)
 
egreg
egreg
11:22 AM
@PauloCereda After a good sleep I am. ;-)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
11:33 AM
@willrobertson 'Just visiting'?
@egreg Serious comment on the LaTeX3 programming question?
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright Yes. :)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
If so, is the text available for reading somewhere (e.g. GitHub)?
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright Not yet.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg Could be a private repo, of course
@egreg You do realise that is more-or-less an application to join the team
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright It will be private, almost surely. No, it's not an application.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
11:35 AM
@egreg Could you send me a draft
@egreg Ah, but it is :-) You don't apply by applying, you apply by doing something daft like some useful work!
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright Let me finish at least the "boolean expressions" section.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg OK
@egreg There are some outstanding issues in that area: we should fix them
This is when I wish we could convince Morten to lend a hand at least a little
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright My aim is to describe the most useful functions. No internals.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg As it should be
@egreg My point was there are some things that don't work correctly in the Boolean code
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright The motto is "don't reinvent the wheel"
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
11:37 AM
For example the lazy evaluation isn't reliable under all conditions
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright I'll recommend using parentheses
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg Is the plan something in the style of the Lua book?
@egreg Can still go wrong if the (user) input has a single parenthesis in it
Bruno had some test cases: I'll dig them out
Lot's of expl3 e-mails to deal with: one day I'll get the next version of siunitx done!
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright It should be "learn by example". Of course the first chapter on \cs_new..., token lists and integers can't have many meaningful examples; but the “99 beers on the wall” example covers pretty much all of the material.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
what is a good way to put a little vertical space between two tabulars? If i add vspace one of the tabulars disappear.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg Agreed: I've found something similar in the blog
@egreg I was thinking of a TUGboat using my blog posts as a starter, but if you have something better I'll leave it
 
egreg
egreg
11:42 AM
@JosephWright Of course I'll look into your blog for inspiration.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@egreg Writing a book?
 
egreg
egreg
@FaheemMitha Yes, about programming in LaTeX3
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg The tricky things seem to be (1) assuming no programming background (as I don't have one either) and (2) working out how to cover TeX principles such as catcodes and expansion within the 'flow'
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@egreg That's nice.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg We need a starrable comment about the book!
 
egreg
egreg
11:44 AM
@JosephWright The question of "background" is of course important. I'll try avoiding catcodes as much as possible. I'll have an "Expansion" chapter, probably.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@egreg Are you collaborating with others on it?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg Sounds good
 
egreg
egreg
@FaheemMitha No.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@egreg Ok.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg Will is putting together the next LaTeX3 news: would it be OK to mention that the team 'hear that a book is in development'?
I'm actually quite keen that someone writes a guide without having worked on the internals: should help get the perspective right
I've not actually written much of the internal stuff beyond 'tidying up' (@DavidCarlisle, @frankmittelbach, etc. take the real credit), but I have worked on some of the interface stuff quite hard
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
11:56 AM
@JosephWright Is the LateX 3 stuff most of relevance to serious programmers?
 
egreg
egreg
@JosephWright Yes. So I'll be spurred on. ;-)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I should have said "mostly of relevance".
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
12:19 PM
@egreg Cool
@FaheemMitha What do you mean?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
12:51 PM
@FaheemMitha Ah right: yes
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
1:28 PM
@JosephWright Ok!
Great news from the LaTeX world, ladies and gentlemen: Enrico is writing a book on programming in LaTeX3! :)
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cgnieder
cgnieder
@PauloCereda done my duty :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
1:41 PM
@cgnieder <3
@cgnieder Now we need to discuss the royalties. :)
@egreg: today will be a great day: two derbies (d'Italia and Choque-Rei) and the SuperBowl. :)
15 iterations for a sum which is defined for k=1,..,\infty is a bit trickery :-). However, well done! — Herbert 1 hour ago
@Jake: jackpot! :)
(@cgnieder sorry for the ping) :)
 
egreg
egreg
2:07 PM
@PauloCereda Go Palestra Italia!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Yay, go Palestra and Juve! :)
 
J G
J G
hi: i have coded \sout{three consecutive integers}$\strut^{5, 6, 7}$ and which places the 5, 6, and 7 diagonally to the right and above the three consec. integers. is it possible to place them above and center aligned?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@JG not sure what you mean, \shortstack{5,6,7\\hree consecutive integers} ?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
2:34 PM
@DavidCarlisle: a creeper destroyed my sheep pen. :(
 
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@paulo You should say this is about minecraft or whatever, otherwise people might get worried ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:28 PM
@StephanLehmke Indeed. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
3:41 PM
@PauloCereda yep :) and Hi, room!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Hey Tom!
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda I hope you have a nice Sunday. Mine is lovely :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz I'm waiting for the big games. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda ah the hand football thingy? :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz actually two football matches early on and then the SuperBowl. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
3:49 PM
@PauloCereda ah ok :)
Well, I've recently found out an interesting result in my research, so I'm quite happy. I even have an app for that :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Yay, congrats!
Result: the thingy works. :) (that's what I expect from my research) :P
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda yep :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Cool! :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda well, quite crazy, if you are not used to the fact that 100=011 :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz I'm part of an engineering school, I don't get shocked with anything. :)
 
Code Mocker
Code Mocker
3:57 PM
Hello, is hyperref compatible with latex-dvips-ps2pdf?
@tohecz what is that? binary representation?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@CodeMocker I think that links should be, but PDF metadata won't. Isn't it in the manual?
@CodeMocker no. golden mean base representation. Works similarly as binary, but you use powers of the golden mean instead of powers of two :)
 
Code Mocker
Code Mocker
@tohecz I have not read the manual as usual.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@Nasser basically same question as this one (my answer is of course the best) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/114783/…
 
Code Mocker
Code Mocker
4:24 PM
!!/answer is PSmith fine today
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
5:08 PM
Is there a way to search for a string in a comment? I tried using is:comment in the search bar, but it didn't work.
@MarcoDaniel Hehe! I assume you're not here any more?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
5:23 PM
@GonzaloMedina I have a new job and so I have to learn and prepare a lot. I hope in 2-3 month I can do more LaTeX ;-)
 
tohecz
tohecz
5:41 PM
@GonzaloMedina no, there is not I think. Try google :)
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
@MarcoDaniel Can I ask you a quick question about mdframed?
Is there some setting allowing to have indentation for the first line of the first paragraph of text inside a mdframed?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@GonzaloMedina Of course. I will try to answer
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
6:06 PM
@GonzaloMedina Something like this: 
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[tikz]{mdframed}
\usepackage{kantlipsum}
\begin{document}
\kant[1]
\begin{mdframed}
\kant[2]
\end{mdframed}

\begin{mdframed}[startinnercode=\hspace*{\parindent}]
\kant[3]
\end{mdframed}

\kant[4]
\end{document}
 
Gonzalo Medina
Gonzalo Medina
@MarcoDaniel Ah, great! Thanks! I didn't know the startinnercode key. I guess I have to read the documentation to see what other things I've missed.
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
Hello to everybody!
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@MarcoDaniel wouldn't something like startinnercode=\leavevmode\par be preferable so that \noindent still works?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@GonzaloMedina I didn't know whether this is uploaded to CTAN or not. I have a new version on my PC but at the moment I have no time fixing some issues and preparing the documentation.
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
Is it actually permissible to ask questions about TeX here instead of main site?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
6:13 PM
@cgnieder This will fail because I din't define startinnercode as long :-(
@AndrewZabavnikov You can ask
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@AndrewZabavnikov yes but if it involves a lot of code, site is better
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@MarcoDaniel \newcommand\fakepar{\par} ;)
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@DavidCarlisle @Marco But that would be worse for community, won't it?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@cgnieder :-) Indeed
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
Anyway, I have rather vague question, so...
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
6:14 PM
\newcommand\fakepar{\leavevmode\par}
\begin{mdframed}[startinnercode=\fakepar]
\kant[3]
\end{mdframed}
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewZabavnikov Maybe, but you are the one eager to ask it here. :)
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@AndrewZabavnikov If this question doesn't fit, we will point you to the main site ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Andrew: on a more serious note: feel free to ask here. :) If we see the question is not "trivial" enough to be solved in here, we will point you to post as a proper answer in the main site.
@MarcoDaniel ^^ what Marco said. :)
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
So, is enumerate's or itemize's \item force TeX to go into horizontal mode?
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@PauloCereda Your sounds better ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
6:17 PM
!!/texdef -t latex itemize 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Here's the output from texdef:

\itemize:
macro:->\ifnum \@itemdepth >\thr@@ \@toodeep \else \advance \@itemdepth \@ne \edef \@itemitem {labelitem\romannumeral \the \@itemdepth }\expandafter \list \csname \@itemitem \endcsname {\def \makelabel ##1{\hss \llap {##1}}}\fi
!!/texdef -t latex item
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
Note that I'm not actually an expert in modes, so the question may be even nonsense....
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Here's the output from texdef:

\item:
macro:->\@inmatherr \item \@ifnextchar [\@item {\@noitemargtrue \@item [\@itemlabel ]}
Well, those two thingies didn't help me at all. :P
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@AndrewZabavnikov no
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle That's cheating, you know the answer without delving into the code. :)
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@David Okay, thanks, coming back to seeking the bug...
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
6:19 PM
@tohecz actually I was going to suggest you gave the bounty to @texnokrat but (s)he deleted the question, I hope not because I posted, perhaps @JosephWright could ping and ask
 
Marco Daniel
Marco Daniel
@DavidCarlisle A typical answer: direct, clear and of course correct ;-)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@DavidCarlisle you mean deleted the answer, right??
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@tohecz er yes:-)
 
percusse
percusse
Hi everyone, quick question... Back in the day, when we press B or W the full-screen becomes purely black or white in Acroread, now I can't find it anymore and it's disabled
How can I search for this?
ah keyboard shortcuts, that should do it.
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
Is there any quicker way to learn about transitions between modes than to read The TeXbook?
 
tohecz
tohecz
6:34 PM
@AndrewZabavnikov depends on what you need. Something can be found in TeX by Topic
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
(Yes I'm either lazy or in a hurry righht now:-)
@tohecz Thanks :-) What in general would you say about the book?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@AndrewZabavnikov I have not read it, but considering how many people like it, it's certainly a very good one :)
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@tohecz Familiar approach to opinion making (often applied by me) :-)
 
percusse
percusse
!!/texdef -t ulem sout
!!/socialize
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@percusse oopsie, sorry. :) I had to shutdown Psmith for a while. :)
 
percusse
percusse
6:49 PM
:)
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
Is mode restored after group end?
 
percusse
percusse
Ahem ....
Finally, the final will be finalized :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@AndrewZabavnikov No, not in general.
@AndrewZabavnikov {hello} world hmode starts on the h of hello but the paragraph doesn't end at the }
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@David What about \hbox{\vbox{...}\hss}?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@AndrewZabavnikov yes well vbox and hbox start a new list which ends at the } and then you are back in the list you were in, but that is a feature of the box command not that superfically it looks like a {} group.
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
6:57 PM
@David Okay, thank you.
When after $$...$$ TeX is in hmode? Always?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@AndrewZabavnikov no, after $$...$$ you go to vmode of course
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
7:26 PM
@tohecz Hmmm... No exceptions? Because in my situation I seem to be in hmode...
 
tohecz
tohecz
@AndrewZabavnikov well, you seem to be right, strange
but actually, it's correct, you're in hmode, because the following two things are essentially different: 
$$x=y$$

x
\bye
And second thing:
$$x=y$$
x
\bye
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@tohecz Well, what I experience is \ifvmode This is written. \fi $$ ... $$ \ifhmode This is also written \fi. Here by ... it is meant some code, not literal .... No empty lines, I think.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@AndrewZabavnikov yep, that seems correct. compare these two: \everypar{PAR} $$x=y$$ z \bye and \everypar{PAR} $$x=y$$ \par z \bye
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@tohecz No \pars!
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
How come the »on/off symbol« gets so many votes?
 
tohecz
tohecz
7:37 PM
@AndrewZabavnikov \par = empty line
@cgnieder which one? /seeking my downvote rifle :D
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@tohecz > No empty lines, I think.
!
 
tohecz
tohecz
I mean, there is an important difference between displaymath followed by an empty line or no
if you don't have an empty line or \par after your displayed equation, you are still inside the same paragraph as in which the equation is, so you are in horizontal mode
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@tohecz this one tex.stackexchange.com/q/157199/5049 (not that the question is particularly bad. But it's not that good either...
 
tohecz
tohecz
@cgnieder it's neither a good question nor a duplicate, at the best, it is off-topic in the do-it-for-me fashion
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@tohecz people like the symbol I guess :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
7:43 PM
@cgnieder well, people upvote stupid drawing questions and answers simply because they are stupid drawing questions that everyone understands to.
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@tohecz true :) And sometimes also I know a package answers
@tohecz I must admit I have voted for some of them, too, occasionally...
 
tohecz
tohecz
@cgnieder I vote for the answers if they are more than just a piece of code: if they show some tricks and explain them, if they provide a solution in a clever fashion, if they're well explained etc.
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@AndrewZabavnikov the TeXbook says that $$...$$ interrupts the current paragraph and returns to it afterwards. It looks like it also starts a paragraph to which it returns to...
 
Andrew Zabavnikov
Andrew Zabavnikov
@tohecz Yes, of course!!! :-)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@cgnieder yes, as you can check by the \everypar trick above, if $$ appears in vmode, it starts a paragraph
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
7:56 PM
@tohecz I used to vote much more often than I do now...
@tohecz I wanted to check but I haven't found a reference in the TeXbook for this on a quick look
 
tohecz
tohecz
@cgnieder I'm moody in voting. I used to read pretty much all the questions at least briefly. Now I spend less time going through the question and even much less time answering. I basically provide an answer only in cases where I feel my insight can be really useful
well, \everypar{PAR} $$x=y$$ z \bye shows that this code starts only one paragraph, and it is started before the display math appears :)
oh no, @David is here, and it will turn out that all I say here is wrong :D
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@tohecz Oh: I voted so much that I'm all time voter number 7! I didn't expect that...
 
tohecz
tohecz
well, I'm (surprisingly) on the 1st page, I didn't expect that
 
percusse
percusse
whoa I've clicked mobile, it's a different universe here now
hmm menu....
 
tohecz
tohecz
@percusse can it be tried on a PC?
You know what I hate? Good journals with bad LaTeX styles
 
percusse
percusse
8:07 PM
yes, it's the lower right corner
there is a link
under the logo
 
tohecz
tohecz
@percusse ah thanks. Well, isn't too impressive on a computer :)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
8:29 PM
is there a good/easy way to separate two tabular environments? No float.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@FaheemMitha what do you mean by "seperate"? Something like \\?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@tohecz Hi, how are you? A little vertical space? Right now they are on top of each other.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@FaheemMitha Hi, I'm quite ok now :) \\[2ex] should do then ;)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@tohecz Great. Thanks.
 
tohecz
tohecz
However, empty line + \medskip + empty line is probably prefered
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
8:39 PM
@tohecz better than the former?
suppose you want an adjustable length?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@FaheemMitha yep a bit. The former is one paragraph, which is sort-of bad
@FaheemMitha empty line + \vspace{2ex} + empty line
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@tohecz I think I tried that. vspace messes up indenting
So, does anyone know if TeX-evince-sync-view in AUCTeX is supposed to work out of the box?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@FaheemMitha well, it'll be a new pagagraph after that, so it will indent
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
There are a bunch of questions about it, but it is really confusing. Dollops of elisp code.
@tohecz Ok. So, that is your recommendation?
I'm wondering if I should ask a question about that
 
tohecz
tohecz
@FaheemMitha well, I would first not have tables in-text. If I had them, I would put them in \begin{center}...\end{center} and then use \\[2ex]
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
8:43 PM
@tohecz You mean you would use a float? This particular document has nothing but two tables.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@FaheemMitha ah ok. \centering at the beginning then :)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@tohecz Ok.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
8:55 PM
@cgnieder only as an error recovery, if you start a para with $$ you get a spurious blank line first with just a indention box and parfillskip glue.
 
cgnieder
cgnieder
@DavidCarlisle I see, thanks
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg: we won, and Juve is about to win as well. :)
 
egreg
egreg
9:41 PM
@PauloCereda Wow!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
10:00 PM
@egreg Great games for us. :)
 
Speravir
Speravir
@JosephWright After two years it’s time to point you to a small, but significant typo in texdef.net, Programming LaTeX3: More on token list variables. You typed squff to alqer, what surely must be squff qo alqer.
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Speravir Indeed: fixed
 
Speravir
Speravir
@JosephWright You’re welcome, but now something’s broken in another way: in parts the font now is very big and bold exactly like the title.
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda What was the score in Palmeiras-São Paulo?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Speravir Something is up with the Markdown plugin: I've fixed
 
egreg
egreg
10:10 PM
@PauloCereda I found it: 2:0!
 
Speravir
Speravir
@JosephWright OK.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Yep, 2:0. Great game. :)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
I have a small emacs lisp question. In my .emacs I set
'(LaTeX-command "latex -shell-escape")
this overwrites the existing latex command. unfortunately it also wipes out any special flags the default is passing. is there a good way to say - add -shell-escape to the latex command string?
Possibly this is just a emacs lisp programming issue - I dunno.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha (setq LaTeX-command (concat LaTeX-command " --shell-escape"))
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle Oh, there's a command for appending? Nice.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
10:17 PM
@FaheemMitha although there may ve a more modern customise way of doing that
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle Is LaTeX-command the correct thing to modify?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha TeX editors tend to need to be able to concatenate strings:-)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Should I ask this on the site?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha I haven't looked at the auctex docs since last century, I have no idea:-)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle You mean editors?
@DavidCarlisle Ok. I thought you use emacs.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
10:19 PM
@FaheemMitha oops I wrote TeX by mistake I meant "text editors"
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle Right.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha I do and I knew the emacs 18 manual by heart, not looked at the docs since then:-)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle Ah. Long time ago.
Shall I ask this on the site? Opinions?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha well if the above works, it works, if you want a more emacs style question probably you should ask on an emacs site
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
this is for pdflatex, but still seems to expect the latex command thing.
@DavidCarlisle Ok.
It seems unhappy. I get
Symbol's value as variable is void: LaTeX-command
 
egreg
egreg
11:01 PM
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Q: new command in latex

fredAlthough I am using latex for a long time, I never defined "dynamic" new commands. Here is what I have in mind: I define a new command such as \newitem with the following inputs \newitem{category}{style}{ref}{title} Now, I want to use category and style to sort in the contentlist, to use re...

table-of-contents bibtex
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg voted
 
jtbandes
jtbandes
I would like a cases environment with both { on the left and } on the right. Is there a nice way to do that other than manually using \left\{\begin{array}...\right\}?
 
egreg
egreg
@jtbandes Easy: 
\makeatletter
\newenvironment{fcases}{\env@cases}{\endarray\right\rbrace}
\makeatother
@jtbandes It's essentially the same as cases, which ends with \right.
 
jtbandes
jtbandes
11:18 PM
@egreg Nifty! This assumes a certain definition of cases, but I suppose that's usually alright
 
egreg
egreg
@jtbandes Of course, amsmath is assumed
 
jtbandes
jtbandes
Is there a normal way to get math inside a bold text run to use bold symbols?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@jtbandes well, why would you want that?
 
jtbandes
jtbandes
@tohecz Primarily, to match the style of a book from which I am transcribing exercises :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
11:34 PM
oh thats maybe the olny acceptable reason ;)
@jtbandes how do you start the bold text?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@jtbandes \textbf{\boldmath bold $a=b$}
 
jtbandes
jtbandes
ah, \boldmath is perfect. I hadn't heard of that.
I made an environment that basically does ...{\centering\textbf{header thing}\par}#1... and when I put simple text inside #1, there is a normal amount of space after the header, but when the first thing is a \begin{lemma} there is much less space. Any thoughts why?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@jtbandes you should use a real heading command (or a list) really but as is, you are not adding any space after your heading, so the question is where did the space in the first example come from (\parskip?)
 
jtbandes
jtbandes
yes, I suppose that is the question. Why wouldn't parskip appear before the lemma, though?
what would be a "real heading command" I should use?
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@jtbandes a) depends how the lemma is defined, (b) it depends \@startsection thing if you want it to be part of the structure or a single item list with a suitable list label for your heading otherwise (otherwise you should do more by hand to suppress page breaks after the heading)
@jtbandes before a list environment (which lemma will be) you get \partopsep not \parskip 9or you could say parskip is locally set to partopsep, more or less)
 

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