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12:13 AM
@egreg good night!
 
@tohecz Seems nice! Good night!
 
@egreg It's lovely
bye!
 
1:00 AM
@DavidCarlisle Do you have contact with STIX developer(s)? The ZIP file for web fonts provided over sourceforge could be about 2MB smaller when the useless TAR file inside would be removed. Useless means that the content of this tar file is already included in subdirectories.
 
 
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8:01 AM
Does anyone know (or at least suspect) a file encodng, where hex 81 is an ü (U+00FC). Mime says something like Non-ISO extended-ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
 
8:21 AM
@Speravir only indirectly, but I'll pass it on
 
8:59 AM
@tohecz <3
 
9:22 AM
Hey guys, we could interview Mark Wibrow.
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@PauloCereda we could interview you
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@DavidCarlisle Thanks, but it's better to postpone this interview. :)
Worlds will collide. :)
 
9:40 AM
@DavidCarlisle this!
 
@PauloCereda I suggest star-based voting :-)
 
@JosephWright Good plan. :)
 
10:05 AM
@tohecz or we could resurrect this old plan:
Dec 14 '12 at 11:41, by David Carlisle
@texenthusiast If he doesn't agree soon I think we'll have to publish a fake interview by taking all his logged comments from this chat room out of context, just insert some questions between these lines and we are done:
Dec 14 '12 at 11:41, by David Carlisle
http://chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=duck&user=6485&room=41
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
That's a lot of ducks.
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
anyways, gotta go to work, see you later!
 
@PauloCereda Now I just need to think of some questions to slot in....
 
10:17 AM
@DavidCarlisle "What does the duck say?" youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
 
11:05 AM
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Q: Is Knuth's *The TeXBook* complete?

user46181Suppose I want to learn TeX. Then, is The TeXBook a complete source? Does it cover all relevant aspect of TeX? Or is there something worth learning about TeX which is not present there? Does also "TeX programming" appear there?

Suppose I want to learn TeX -- suppose you don't know what you doing in here? :)
 
@PauloCereda See my comment
 
@JosephWright Perfect comment. :)
 
@JosephWright I was typing at the same time, saying same thing:-)
@PauloCereda the word "duck" does not appear once in that book, clearly incomplete.
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@DavidCarlisle exactly!
 
11:29 AM
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/160420/academic-thanks-page

Do you guys have a clue?
@PauloCereda ok, i am curious. How do you "embed" the qestion the way you did just a few minutes back?
 
@Johannes_B just put the URL in the chat box on its own
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Q: Academic Thanks page

Educi'm trying to create Academic ( because my thesis in Mathematics) and beautiful Thanks page in my thesis : \documentclass{article} \begin{document} It is with our deepest gratitude and warmest affection that we dedicate this thesis to our Professor Dr. X Who has been a constant sourc...

 
@DavidCarlisle Pressing ^M afterwards? Never tried that before. Thanks :-)
 
12:04 PM
@Johannes_B well whatever key you normally press to send text or the "sent" button on screen.
 
@DavidCarlisle Wow, there really is a »send« button clicking send
 
12:25 PM
@DavidCarlisle Do you remember why \\ is reset to \normal@cr by \@parboxrestore?
@DavidCarlisle And why \@xfloat does \@parboxrestore and not \@arrayparboxrestore?
 
@egreg because it was always that way. It makes sense as a parbox might be in a table or center env where \\ means whatever it means and a parbox is supposed to be an oasis of normality
@egreg because it is basically a minipage not a tabular?
@egreg I guess there is a hidden context to these questions?
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, there is. A macro uses \protected@xdef somewhere; so the code works if the object is built in normal text, but not in a figure, because it fails at \\.
 
12:42 PM
@egreg MWE:-) it also would fail in a minipage? (I'm not understanding, although I'm trying to debug .NET help so brain fuddled)
 
@DavidCarlisle Believe it or not Stackoverflow might be a little better. Feels like comparing HIV and Ebola though.
 
@percusse I'm not trying to read .NET help (no one reads documentation) I'm trying to make some.
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@DavidCarlisle Ah, the old nemesis. Sorry.
 
Is \input expandable?
 
1:26 PM
@tohecz The primitive \input is, not LaTeX's \input
 
@tohecz @@input
 
@egreg too bad. This means \@@input or something like that, right?
 
@tohecz but beware the end of file (\everyeof{\noexpand} helps
 
@tohecz \@@input is the copy of the primitive. I'm sure there are questions about it on the site. Surely the catchfile package can help.
 
@egreg well, I just wanted to save myself some coding in Sage by \edeffing with \inputting, I can manage in another ways for sure
 
1:38 PM
@tohecz Then \CatchFileEdef is what you're looking for
 
1:48 PM
@egreg ah ok :)
 
@tohecz It's Heiko Oberdiek's macro, so it can be trusted on. ;-)
 
@tohecz although it's basically what I wrote above:-)
 
well, I think I'll just wrap my file in \def and input it before the execution :)
 
 
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3:10 PM
I'm back. :)
I went to a café and had to answer a lot of questions to get my hot chocolate. :)
 
@egreg Will be adding that, more or less, to expl3 this weekend (team permitting!)
 
@JosephWright Very good news! I believe to have used it in combination with expl3 code. Let me see.
 
@egreg Proposed names \tl_set_from_file:Nn (\def version) \tl_set_from_file_x:Nn (\edef version)
 
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A: Parse a file with a regexp and return first match

egregThere is no facility, at the moment, for storing into a token list the contents of a file, but you can still use the catchfile package: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{catchfile} \usepackage{expl3,l3regex} \ExplSyntaxOn \cs_new_protected:Npn \mycom #1 { \CatchFileDef \l_tmpa_tl {#1} {}...

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A: Automatically formatting a table from a file with a list of words

egregHere's a way with expl3 and Heiko Oberdiek's catchfile: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} % for the underscore \usepackage{catchfile} \usepackage{xparse} \ExplSyntaxOn \cs_set_eq:NN \egreg_catchfiledef:nnn \CatchFileDef \cs_generate_variant:Nn \egreg_catchfiledef:nnn { c } \cs_ge...

 
@egreg Came up in the context of loading config files for me
 
3:20 PM
@JosephWright Don't forget the argument for adding settings! See the second answer.
 
@egreg I was thinking that was not really sensible: it's a separate operation from setting the tl
 
@JosephWright It can be needed for adjusting category codes.
 
@egreg \group_begin: \<some setup> \tl_set_from_file:Nn \l_tmpa_tl { my-name } \exp_args:NNNo \group_end: \tl_set:Nn \l_some_tl \l_tmpa_tl
@egreg If you are reading an entire file, not line-by-line, shouldn't you be dealingwith reasonable catcodes anyway?
 
@JosephWright Nice piece of code, precisely in line with LaTeX3's philosophy. :P
@JosephWright Frequently the file is just a one liner generated in some other way.
 
@egreg Of course, this can be discussed :-) I note for ior you either get 'current' or 'string' catcodes
@egreg My use case is a little bigger :-)
 
3:25 PM
@JosephWright Well, you have a use case in the second answer (the problem is the underscore, in that case).
 
@egreg Perhaps I'll raise on the list
 
3:38 PM
@egreg yep, that's for instance my recent case, too (each file is one sequence of points for tikz draw command)
 
4:08 PM
Go Mark, go Mark, go Mark!
 
@PauloCereda Hey! Are you well? ;-)
 
@egreg I thought Joseph's plan about the star rating interview thingy was good at first, but there's a bad turn! So far, Paulo 6:4 Mark.
@egreg: I believe I suffered a lot to have my hot chocolate. I'm traumatized. :)
 
4:29 PM
@PauloCereda Hot chocolate with 30 degrees outside?
 
4:56 PM
Does anyone have the Fontin font installed? If so, could you please try the following and let me know if "World" is displayed in italic?
% arara: xelatex
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Fontin}

\begin{document}
Hello \textit{World}
\end{document}
 
@egreg Yep. :) I love chocolate. :) Everybody was staring at me. :)
@rm-rf OMG I see arara!
 
@PauloCereda I already told you I was using it... :) It sucks that with vim-latex, it runs the entire pipeline 2/3/4 times, depending on the document.
That means xelatex, biber, xelatex, xelatex is repeated 4 times!! What a waste
 
@rm-rf Ah yes, you told me. :)
@rm-rf I'm introducing conditionals, it might help. :)
 
but besides that, I like having finer control over the processing commands for each document :)
@PauloCereda No, this is vim-latex's fault. I've just set arara to be my "latex", so that it works with \ll
 
@rm-rf ooh! :)
 
5:06 PM
It's ok for most stuff (2 compiles instead of 1), but I had a very annoying time with my thesis... 5x4 compiles of a big document. Took FOREVER!
 
@rm-rf I get italic.
 
What! I get this:
Do you know what the problem might be?
 
@rm-rf What does the log file says? Is there a warning about font substitution?
 
@egreg Ah, thanks. I found out that there was a non-OTF Fontin Italic installed. Removing it fixed the problem. :)
 
@rm-rf If you run XeLaTeX with xelatex -output-driver="xdvipdfmx -v" you get information about what font files are being loaded.
 
5:13 PM
@egreg This goes in the log file?
 
@rm-rf No, only on the terminal.
 
Thanks, I should remember this.
 
@rm-rf See this answer of mine:
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A: Bug with xelatex and -recorder option?

egregThe XDV to PDF conversion is done by xdvipdfmx, which doesn't understand -recorder, unfortunately. It could be a good addition, but presently it doesn't do it. With a Unix system and a Bash shell you can do xelatex -recorder -output-driver='xdvipdfmx -vv >> dubac.fls 2>&1' dubac The output .f...

 
5:37 PM
@percusse: sir I did some sneaky edit. :)
 
I picked up a copy of Nicola's second book today :-)
UK-TUG discount!
 
@JosephWright woohoo!
 
@PauloCereda Lots of good advice
I still need to solve one problem for one of our students
 
@JosephWright Load hyperref last. :)
 
@PauloCereda That I know
Until at least I sort out LaTeX3 properly
 
5:49 PM
@JosephWright Just kidding. :)
 
First, though, Unicode case changes
 
@JosephWright Hm quite complex.
 
6:14 PM
@Joseph: TeX's internal representation?
Got me a book from 1975. Typewriter-like typesetting. :)
 
Hi @Peter!
@percusse So I got my PCM recorder today. But I'll do some extensive tests only in 2 weeks, after I get home :)
 
6:47 PM
@tohecz \documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\fancyhf{}
\fancyhead[RO,LE]{\jobname\quad\day.\month.\year}

\begin{document}
%\insertname
Some text.
\end{document}
 
@FaheemMitha I've seen that somewhere :D
 
@tohecz Sorry, I just replied to your answer, and was pasting a minimal example (which doesn't work for me).
 
@FaheemMitha Sorry, it was a no-test one, this is correct, I'll edit it in:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\fancyhf{}
\fancyhead[RO,LE]{\jobname\quad\the\day.\the\month.\the\year}
\pagestyle{fancy}

\begin{document}
%\insertname
Some text.
\end{document}
 
@tohecz \the\day\quad\the\music\died. So bye, bye, miss American Pie!
Oh boy, that was pure gold! :)
 
@PauloCereda what?
 
6:52 PM
@PauloCereda You're American now? Tch.
 
@tohecz A reference to a song named American Pie. :)
 
\let\music\month\def\died{\quad\the\year}
 
@FaheemMitha I like songs. :)
 
@PauloCereda American pop songs? :-)
 
@FaheemMitha Almost all genres are here. I have Rammstein and Pantera too in my playlist. :P
 
6:54 PM
@PauloCereda I'm much less multicultural in this sense
 
@tohecz <3
 
@PauloCereda I have no idea who those are. I used to like Schubert. I suppose I still do, really.
 
@FaheemMitha I like Schubert too. :)
 
@tohecz That works, thanks.
 
btw, I tested the new voice recorder today, and I finally understood why people can't recognize me and my brother by voice
 
6:55 PM
@PauloCereda That's nice. You really are multicultural.
 
@PauloCereda oh Schubert! I was on a concert last Saturday it was oh so beautiful!
 
@tohecz Really? Woohoo!
@FaheemMitha Open-minded, I'd say. :)
 
@tohecz Nice. What was it?
 
@PauloCereda but the boy (well, guy) that was playing, he's very good :)
@FaheemMitha I think it was the 6 Variations IIRC the name
 
@tohecz Don't recognize that.
 
6:57 PM
@tohecz Cool! :)
 
Six Moments musicaux D. 780
Fantaisie en ut majeur D. 760 « Wanderer »
^^ that's it
 
@tohecz Ok. Quite early stuff. Relatively speaking.
wanderer fantasie I recognize.
most of Schubert's best known stuff he wrote basically at the last minute.
 
@FaheemMitha but it's so good! the 6 moments are very decent, the 1st motiv of the 1st one is very well known. And the fantasie is just crazy: I was sitting behind the pianist, and it was just every now and then that his hands moved apart at the bullet's speed, pressed million of keys in a quick sequence and got to the middle part again where I couldn't see them :P
now excuse me, I have to go in like 10 minutes, I go dancing :)
 
@tohecz ooh dancing!
 
@tohecz That's nice too. What kind of dancing?
 
7:01 PM
@FaheemMitha Scotish country dancing :)
 
@tohecz Sure, but his later stuff is better. :-)
 
@FaheemMitha I loved these
 
@tohecz Oh. Have fun. Take care. And thanks for the answer again.
@tohecz Listening to the wanderer fantasie now. courtesy of the net. it has been a while.
 
@FaheemMitha you're welcome. I really think that this is the approach ;)
 
@tohecz Well, it looks like a clean approach. :-)
 
7:03 PM
@FaheemMitha yep :)
 
@tohecz Why is the \pagestyle{fancy} needed?
 
@FaheemMitha because fancyhdr defines everything as a new page style. You can redefine the default ones, too, it's in the manual
gotta go now, sorry, and bye!
 
Nice finding in an answer to a migrated question: $\widehat{BAM}$ = $ \tan ($ $\dfrac {BM} {AB}$ $)$ Wonderful!
 
@egreg Bam! :)
 
@PauloCereda The user is not registered here. I left a comment, so a newcomer doesn't think it's something really recommended.
 
7:11 PM
@egreg Good plan. :) I upvoted your comment. :)
 
 
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8:16 PM
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@percusse: ^^ :)
 
8:27 PM
:13779915: Hi there.
 
@PeterGrill Hi! No stolen green tick, today. ;-)
 
8:48 PM
@PeterGrill I read on the paper yesterday that California is suffering from drought.
 
@PauloCereda you might like this one: youtube.com/watch?v=wOiBlL9pHMw :)
 
9:10 PM
@cgnieder Happily the radio now has Mozart's concert for flute and harp.
 
@egreg :) This remark made me listen to Mozart now, too... I don't do that very often
 
@cgnieder What did you choose?
 
@egreg said concert - I've never heard it before
(that should probably be »never listened to it before«...)
 
@cgnieder Written in 1778, at Paris.
Some weeks after his mother died.
 
@cgnieder OMG
 
9:39 PM
@egreg No, not stolen green ticks today :-(. Yeah there has been very little rainfall this year so we are defintely in drought conditions, but basically that just means less waste at least this year.
 
@PeterGrill you could have some of our water (most of the fields around are under it)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@PeterGrill wetest winter for over 200 years: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-26135015
 
@DavidCarlisle Wow!!
 
@PauloCereda Some time ago I saw a whole site /tumbler with this kind of maps. I canot search for, because I do not know the proper English name now.
 
9:51 PM
@Speravir There's a Hey Jude one too. Very nice. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes! Exactly this one went viral and was the one which led me to this site.
 
@Speravir :)
 
@PauloCereda AAh. flow chart or mind map. And the supposed source for Hey Jude: loveallthis.tumblr.com/post/166124704 (with a link to jeannr.tumblr.com/post/165291081/… what is your obviously source)
 
@Speravir LOL that one! Which reminds me of...
 
@PauloCereda Haha! I collected some others especially for you:
 
10:00 PM
@Speravir LOL
 
And this one:
 
10:28 PM
@PauloCereda OMG xkcd: Na
 
@Speravir Oh my!
Namaste, @Harish! :)
 
@PauloCereda Don’t forget this one.
 
@Speravir LOL
@Speravir: I like this one too: edwardtufte.com/bboard/images/0003VL-9150.jpeg :)
 
@PauloCereda I got it actually from Have You Heard It – The Best Music Infographics. Duck included.
@PauloCereda :-D
 
10:43 PM
@Speravir Dat keyboard duck. :)
 
11:05 PM
@PauloCereda Namste Paulo. Shuba Prasthakaala (means good morning).
:)
 
@HarishKumar <3
 
11:31 PM
@HarishKumar Hey! It's night here!
 
11:48 PM
@egreg Nooo! its morning 5.15am Here ;)
Good Morning Enrico :)
@egreg Probably you should say Good night to me ;)
 
@egreg It's night here, too. What a coincidence!
(sorry, I was away, I just got home from the Friday dancing)
 
@HarishKumar Not gone to bed yet?
 
@egreg Again Nooo!. I just woke one hour ago ;)
 
@HarishKumar You're an early bird! You wake up earlier than @PauloCereda
 
@egreg What @PauloCereda wakes up before me?
 

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