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12:04 AM
@PauloCereda Some minutes!
 
 
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8:35 AM
Four of six UK-TUG2013 videos are now uploaded to vimeo.com/uktug. I'm hoping to do at least one more today, with the last one dependent on getting the slides from the speaker.
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9:24 AM
@egreg I lost track of time listening to Laura Pausini. :)
 
 
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11:35 AM
lalalalalalalalala
 
 
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12:45 PM
@PauloCereda Back from the lecture. And my big boy (the MacPro) has safely returned from the hospital. After installing Mavericks I discovered that the hard disk wasn't in real good shape. :( Now I have a brand new 2TB disk. Going to restart it in a few minutes.
 
@PauloCereda You know you can simplify that to *{9}{la}
 
1:11 PM
@egreg Oh my! 2TB!
@DavidCarlisle ooh. :D
 
1:26 PM
@JosephWright Phew, I'm glad the microphone wasn't on when I said that I might consider trying emacs on my tablet.
(Not that I have much hope that it will manage the size of my book any better that vim, but it's worth a try.)
 
@NicolaTalbot Oh no!
 
@PauloCereda vim crashes on my tablet when I try to edit my book because the file's too big :-(
 
@NicolaTalbot vimtouch?
 
@PauloCereda Yes. I think my poor little tablet doesn't have much of a brain.
 
@NicolaTalbot Oh.
 
1:35 PM
@PauloCereda jota can't cope either.
(I don't half say "um" and "er" a lot in these videos.)
@PauloCereda They taunted us with the promise of cake, but only brought biscuits.
 
@NicolaTalbot oh no! @Joseph, how could you do this? :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh well, at least I've got my duck cake to look forward to :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot Yay! :)
ooh teh owl is back! /pokes @Jake :)
 
@PauloCereda Hoot!
 
@Jake <3
 
2:03 PM
@NicolaTalbot :-(
 
@JosephWright It's okay, I'm better off without the extra calories :-)
@JosephWright I'm impressed with how quickly you got the videos sorted.
@JosephWright (I was just kidding around.)
Now I've recovered from all the excitement, I ought to get back to glossaries again. It would be nice if I can get it released before Christmas :-)
 
@JosephWright Tea? :)
 
2:21 PM
@NicolaTalbot: where are you in the videos? :)
 
@PauloCereda In the workshop one I'm the one who asks about key=value stuff in package and documentclass options.
 
@NicolaTalbot Joseph can easily be the next Doctor with that accent. :)
 
@PauloCereda LOL :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot and David can easily be the next Q in a new James Bond movie. :)
 
@NicolaTalbot Experience
@NicolaTalbot Hope to do the others tonight
 
2:27 PM
ooh the doctor is in. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle I tried installing emacs on my tablet, but it says I need a hardware keyboard with Alt and Ctrl keys, which I don't have, so I've abandoned that idea.
@PauloCereda Maybe there should be a TeX version of Bond where the doctor turns up to save the day with LaTeX3.
 
@NicolaTalbot ooh I like the plot! :) If we let things to Q/David, Bond will save the world with picture mode. :)
 
@PauloCereda And the evil villain is called OR :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot LOL
 
2:55 PM
@PauloCereda The migration from the old disk wants another hour and a half.
 
@egreg Solid state?
 
@PauloCereda No! How much would it cost?
 
@egreg A bunch! :)
 
@PauloCereda I've seen 500€ for 960 GB
 
3:11 PM
@egreg Wow.
 
3:57 PM
@PauloCereda After one hour, the estimated time is still 1.5 hours.
 
@egreg :)
 
4:27 PM
@NicolaTalbot it says that but it's not true, the hackers keyboard (free from google play) has more than enough keys to keep emacs happy
@egreg but @JosephWright was saying in his UKTUG talk that tracing beamer was tricky as \tracingall fills your disk, but now you have 2T you should have no problem
@NicolaTalbot a very impolite question if I may say so:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Waiting for you to present a TeX file that fills 2TB with \tracingall. ;-)
 
@egreg \tracingall\def\a{\a}\a
 
@DavidCarlisle Not with an infinite loop, that's too easy!
 
@egreg the other cases are left as an exercise for the reader
 
@PauloCereda After being at "37 minutes remaining" it jumped up to "3 hours remaining"
 
4:40 PM
@egreg Let's hope it ends until Christmas. :)
 
@PauloCereda It went down again to 37 minutes
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no, I keep putting my foot in it! :-) Did I make up for it by considering installing emacs?
 
@NicolaTalbot No but if you finish the rest of your book using emacs, you might be forgiven
 
@DavidCarlisle boo!
 
@DavidCarlisle I've installed the hackers keyboard, but I get the scary message "This input method may be able to collect all the text that you type, including personal data like passwords and credit card numbers."
 
4:57 PM
@NicolaTalbot It's the hackers' keyboard, after all. ;-)
 
@egreg :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot It's like the "Albanian computer virus": a mail message saying "We're a group of Albanian hackers, but still learning. Upon receiving this mail you must erase your hard disk. Thanks for your cooperation."
 
@egreg LOL :-)
@DavidCarlisle I tried to install emacs and I got Fatal error (11)Segmentation fault. I think I'll go back to using pen and paper.
 
5:12 PM
@egreg Speaking of hard disks... :)
 
@NicolaTalbot isn't that true of any keyboard that you install? It can see your keypresses
 
@DavidCarlisle Somebody should invent a keyless keyboard: no risk of our personal data being overlooked.
 
@egreg follow the thread from
Oct 30 at 20:16, by David Carlisle
@PauloCereda a vim keyboard for android:
 
@DavidCarlisle No. :)
 
I had to make a comment to this question.
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Q: siunix, beamer and \maketitle

wolandI'm using beamer and I'm not able to use the package siunitx features within the \maketitle environment. Minimal NOT working example \documentclass{beamer} \usepackage{siunitx} \title{\SI{5}{\micro \ampere}} \begin{document} \begin{frame} \maketitle \end{frame} \end{document} Here is the log...

 
5:26 PM
@egreg LOL
 
@egreg perhaps I should flag that comment to see what our moderators make of it
 
Is there anyone around who's used LaTeX to make scientific posters?
I'm wondering if you found it a good tool for this.
 
@DavidCarlisle One of the moderators will talk to the maintainers of siunitx and beamer, trying to convince them to straighten out the issue.
 
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Q: How to create posters using LaTeX

hayalciI want to create posters for my poster presentation on a conference. What tools or LaTeX classes are available for preparing posters ?

 
I know it's possible, I was really looking for some personal experiences.
For example, for me, beamer could never replace graphical presentation tools. It's just too rigid, and I can't fit a presentation to a rigid template.
Many people (but not everyone) agree with this.
But posters have a naturally more rigid structure, so it might not be a problem there.
 
5:49 PM
@PauloCereda “Less than a minute” it says; let's wait to measure how long are Apple minutes.
 
@egreg :)
 
@PauloCereda Well, not more than five standard minutes. Rebooting. :)
All seems going well.
 
@egreg Except emacs. :)
 
6:05 PM
@DavidCarlisle This is true. It seems that this message is generated for every keyboard app.
It's kind of like the "this product contains nuts" warning on a packet of nuts.
 
6:24 PM
@NicolaTalbot look out, nuts!
Hmmm I need to buy another nutella jar. :)
 
@PauloCereda Be careful, it contains nuts! :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot :)
 
6:41 PM
@PauloCereda No time for trying. Tomorrow.
 
7:39 PM
@Szabolcs I always use Adobe InDesign for posters. I think the opensource equivalent is Scribus, but I haven't used it.
@Szabolcs If you don't like beamer for presentations, then I think you would hate using it (or any LaTeX poster package) for posters. I do use beamer, but since a poster is an inherently visual object, LaTeX is not really that suited for it, IMO.
 
 
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9:17 PM
@egreg ready to ask your question? (only 40 to go:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Here it is: Why should I ask a question?
 
@egreg 'cause @PauloCereda said so?
 
@DavidCarlisle I'll leave the honor to you.
 
@egreg never figured it out, and I haven't time now :(
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm listening to ‘The Art of Fugue’, it's almost impossible to think to anything else.
 
9:35 PM
@AlanMunn What finally I did last week was to make textboxes in LaTeX (each one in a separate file), in place them into an Illustrator document as linked files (i.e. they're auto-updated when the linked file changes). There were a number of inconveniences though so I was looking for something better. I should try InDesign next time.
 
10:10 PM
@Szabolcs did you have other illustrator artwork in the document as well as the latex generated text or is it just positioned text boxes?
 
10:50 PM
I make my drawings in Inkscape using only vectors, then export the graphics to .pdf, and include them in a TikZ poster thingy.
 
11:10 PM
\cs_new:Npn \mytest:n #1 {

\int_compare:nNnTF #1 > 0 { greater~than~ \mytest:n {\int_eval:n {#1 - 1}} } { less~than~ }

}
Suggestions? :) My recursion doesn't work. :)
 
@PauloCereda \int_compare:n implies the first argument should be a standard {..} syntax but you have ` #1 > 0 `
 
@PauloCereda \int_compare:nTF{#1>0}{true}{false} is easier to manage
 
@egreg, @DavidCarlisle: Thanks, let's see if I can make my crazy idea work. :)
 
11:25 PM
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A: How do I make a tenfold power in LaTeX?

Paulo CeredaI dedicate this code to Sean. :) Long live expl3! :) \documentclass{article} \usepackage{expl3} \usepackage{xparse} \ExplSyntaxOn \cs_new:Npn \paulo_epicrecursion:n #1 { x^{ \int_compare:nTF { #1 > 0 } { \paulo_epicrecursion:n { \int_eval:n { #1 - 1 } } } { x } } } \New...

@egreg: I did, I did! :)
 
@PauloCereda this is quicker:-)
\documentclass{article}

\def\powertower#1{x\ifnum#1>1 ^{\powertower{\numexpr#1-1\relax}}\fi}

\begin{document}

$\powertower{10}$

\end{document}
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh that's pure gold! :) Post it, please. :)
I could really optmize that evaluation. :)
@David: Thanks for the hint, I updated the code. :)
 
@PauloCereda I posted mine as well, as requested:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Where?!
No new entry in the thread. :(
 
11:41 PM
@PauloCereda oops it had popped up the annoying captcha thingy and not posted it:-)
@PauloCereda Ps my recursion s deeper than yours, so there:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle OMG
 
Hi guys, it's been a while :) @PauloCereda your power tower is awesome!
 
@cmhughes Hi Chris! :) Thanks, but you should see David's. :)
@DavidCarlisle:
This is the TeX version of Stairway to heaven. :) Amazing! — Paulo Cereda 22 secs ago
 
@PauloCereda I was looking at it above- mighty impressive stuff. Is it another competition to minimize characters typed?
 
@cmhughes I'm quite surprised David didn't use picture mode. :)
 
11:46 PM
@PauloCereda lol :) @DavidCarlisle will have the gold tikz badge before we know it
 
@cmhughes :)
 
@cmhughes I'm counting my silver one as a new year's resolution achieved (even though I said I was aiming for gold:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle brilliant :) won't be long until the gold is yours, I'm sure :)
 
@cmhughes hmm I'm at 628/88 so getting to 200 answers may take a while, unless I learn something about tikz.
 
@DavidCarlisle you could answer the tikz questions with PSTricks code as <marientplatz> does
 
11:52 PM
@cmhughes That's the measure of last resort:
Jan 2 at 16:46, by David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha The new years resolution is to get a tikz gold badge by answering tikz question with tex primitives, picture mode, or if really pushed pstricks, doing quite well so far this year.
 
@DavidCarlisle fair enough- picture mode for the win, then!
 
@cmhughes And let us not forget Stefan's grandma. :)
 
@PauloCereda indeed, indeed :)
 
@DavidCarlisle This won't build loooooong nested \numexpr:
\def\powertower#1#2{\@powertower{#2}{#1}}
\def\@powertower#1#2{%
  #2%
  \ifnum#1>\@ne
    \expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\@firstofone
  \else
    \expandafter\@gobble
  \fi
  {\expandafter^\expandafter{\expandafter\@powertower\expandafter{\number\numexpr#1-1\relax}{#2}}}%
}
 

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