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12:00 AM
!!/answer How do you like?
 
@percusse Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command how does not exist.
@percusse Psmith, the TeX bot: 1 | noun | a similar kind :: 2 | noun | a kind of person :: 3 | verb | prefer or wish to do something :: 4 | verb | find enjoyable or agreeable :: 5 | verb | be fond of :: 6 | verb | feel about or towards; consider, evaluate, or regard :: 7 | verb | want to have :: 8 | adjective | resembling or similar; having the same or some of the same characteristics; often used in combination :: (13 meanings)
o.O
 
Such a diplomatic liar... :)
 
LOL
There's a saying in Portuguese about diplomacy: keep saying "good dog" until you find a rock.
 
hehehehe
 
Latest typography news: there will be a thesis with the Lenny chapter style, but where unnumbered chapters' titles will have a rule under them; the main font is Times, but math is in Euler Math. I don't want to know about line spacing and margins.
 
12:02 AM
@egreg Oh my!
 
@MartyIX you shouldn't ask anyone to choose between their children
@egreg The margins are set via a css behavior extension that only works in IE6
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm inclined to suggest page headers in Comic Sans
And the page number in Zapf Chancery
 
@egreg Now things are getting out of control. :)
What's the coup de grâce? ABNT bibliography? :)
 
@PauloCereda It would add a touch of originality.
 
@egreg :P
 
12:11 AM
@PauloCereda Sorted by author's first name.
 
@egreg is this what you want to have ? :) PDF Reference Manual
 
@egreg And you helped him doing that ...
 
@percusse Non zero parskip, no indentation, start of chapter in all uppercase. A jewel.
 
@egreg And they set the standard.
 
@mafp But strongly discouraged using fncychap.
 
12:14 AM
@egreg My solution to his former question broke fncychap, but he would not leave it at that
 
Good night all. I'll dream in Comic Sans, probably. And with a nonzero parskip.
 
@egreg night (you're 20 up on me today already:-)
 
@egreg good night
 
@egreg Good night! :)
 
@Paulo Hello!
 
12:29 AM
@tohecz Hi Tom! :)
 
How do you do?
 
Tired, actually. :) It's been a long day. :)
And you?
 
Don't speak about long days: Woke up early since the lecture had to start at 8:45. But the lecture was obviously cancelled (noone there). Later I found that my student restaurant card with EUR 15 is definitely lost (despite that, I hope to get the money back), then I found that the research we do and I should present next week on a conference was already done by someone else 8 years ago. Now I returned from a party at my supervisor's place.
so the party was fun, but the rest of this day? :-/
 
:(
Bed time. Good night, friends. :)
 
12:48 AM
@PauloCereda Good night!
 
@percusse he's left the second he posted that message ;) @Paulo
 
@tohecz :-) Playing mind tricks on me
I'll be burning the internet on DVDs and browsing offline because I can.
 
@percusse what?
 
@tohecz :-)
I'm tired of my ISP problems
 
@percusse oh ok, sorry to hear that
 
1:03 AM
ooh PirateBay movie has a trailer!
@tohecz I think you need to include det(AB)=det(A)det(B) and lower/upper triangular matrix determinant with ones on the diagonal =1
If you are demonstrating the calc of determinant that means the audience level is not that high.
 
@percusse I think the other answers need to include "adding a multiple of one line to another line doesn't change the determinant" and "multiplying two columns by -1 doesn't change the determinant" ;)
 
@tohecz And probably they do.
 
Well, the OP should be aware of this. I only want to show that keeping with the formalism is sometimes better than introducing strange notation. The rest (including which solution he prefers) is upon his shoulders ;)
 
@tohecz I also hate these shortcut solutions. especially that Gauss elimination of [A|I] to get the inverse on the right side is just slashing kittens.
 
@percusse I don't know what is "slashing kittens", but I know it's $O(n^4)$, compared to $O(n^3)$ of the method shown in the question.
 
1:18 AM
But an underbracket of det=1 would make it more informative. Also a nice opportunity to include {vmatrix*}[r] syntax that I've tried to mention under the comments of Americo.
needs mathtools
 
@percusse well, I found out that centering the columns increases readebility, you easier distinguish positive and negative elements.
 
@tohecz I tend to right align them.
 
@percusse I used to do that as well, until recently
damn something is wrong:
! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> ...& 3 \end {vmatrix} \\ &= \underwear
 
hahaha
 
oh, fuck :D
 
1:22 AM
missing or extra panties :P
 
@percusse depending on ConTeXt ;)
damn I think I drunk too much wine and slivovice :D
 
@tohecz which is not a bad thing. Don't drink and hyphenate.
 
@percusse hyphenate?
 
@tohecz \-
too much Ginja here :)
 
ok
btw, I have a palindromic rep: 12721
 
1:31 AM
@tohecz so the downvotes worked it out in the end?
 
@percusse which downvotes? Well, I recieve some, I give some, although I'm not Jasper Loy to round my rep to 5 or 0
 
@tohecz Somebody was stalking you IIRC.
 
@percusse oh this, it's ok now, despite me annoying them again
I'm really unhappy about the bad typography of this ad. — tohecz Jan 5 at 14:35
 
Is that the user that you have a skirmish of downvotes?
 
@percusse yep
 
1:37 AM
@tohecz Probably he is offended due to the mythological meaning of the symbol.
 
@percusse the downvotes are much older than this post. And I have nothing against his creature, I just hate looking at a badly typeset ad.
 
haha it's kind of more than a creature for Iranians. simurgl simargl something like that also exists let me see...
Simargl (také Semargl) je slovanský bůh nejasného významu, jenž patřil k idolům, jež vztyčil kníže Vladimír roku 980 v Kyjevě. Slovo nekojego christoljuba jej však uvádí jako dva bohy, Sima a Rgla. Existují dva hlavní výklady jeho funkce. První jeho jméno odvozuje z íránského senmurv-símurg, což je posvátný okřídlený pes chránící rostliny. Problém je ovšem ta, že Símurg není božstvem, ale pouze démonem. Druhý výklad jméno odvozuje ze slovanských slov sema (rodina) či seme (sémě) a rž (žito), což by znamenalo Sima a Rgla, ochránce dobytka a obilí. Pokud jsou dvojicí může se jednat o blížene...
 
kan
2:23 AM
Good Morning!
 
 
5 hours later…
7:29 AM
@NikolaTalbot Should the American ordinal be fixed, then?
 
7:48 AM
@DavidCarlisle Working with web browsers on the programming side (web programming) has been thus far my least favorite programming activity. Possibly my least favorite computer related activity. I was shanghaied into it. I don't do it now. And never again.
 
8:00 AM
@tohecz Sorry to hear that. About the research.
Typesetting includes both TeX and MS Word, right? What word characterizes just TeX?
 
 
3 hours later…
10:33 AM
@FaheemMitha Yeah, that happens. But one of the colleagues (very experienced yet open-minded lady) said what can be summarized as: "You're a PhD student to gain experience, not just to have results."
@FaheemMitha Professional typesetting? :D
@JosephWright according to the number of false answers here, it would use a protection I think:
26
Q: Is there a WYSIWYG editor for biblatex styles?

susis strolchDoes anyone know if a WYSIWYG editor for biblatex exists, where I simply can enter some kind of template (e.g. regular expression or whatever) and the needed commands to produce this style would be generated. Especially for the style of entries in the reference list. Considering different order...

Hi @Paulo! Slept well?
 
@tohecz Done
 
@tohecz Heh.
@tohecz Well, it's a mixed bag. At least if someone scooped you, you know what you did was worth scooping.
 
@FaheemMitha LOL!!! :D
 
@tohecz Do you do InDesign and Quark too, then?
 
@JosephWright no, it was a joke
 
10:47 AM
@tohecz Hi Tom! I tried to rest, but I'm still tired. :)
 
@PauloCereda You should do it as me, stay in the bed :p
 
@tohecz Nah, the more the worse. :) I still have my daily 20km jogging. :)
 
@PauloCereda damn I envy you your healthy approach
 
@tohecz <3
The approach is to keep the mind sane. :)
Or less crazy.
 
@PauloCereda that's the same :p
 
10:50 AM
Anyone currently on here using Hmisc::latex to format tables?
 
@tohecz Exactly. :)
@FaheemMitha Perl?
 
I've got a problem, but I don't know if I can solve it within the confines of that command/function.
@PauloCereda R
 
@FaheemMitha Oh sorry.
 
@PauloCereda No problem.
Hmm, looks rather like this question -> tex.stackexchange.com/questions/27971/…
 
 
1 hour later…
12:10 PM
@JosephWright I rejected an anonymous edit that, in my opinion, changes the terms of the question, but it got accepted by someone else. Note that the OP is registered. Can you have a look? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/91297/… Not that I mind too much, of course.
 
@egreg Fine, I've rolled it back
 
user19161
@egreg The edits from unregistered users are usually the most radical. They think SE is like Wikipedia!
 
12:46 PM
@egreg yeah, that one seems to be against "no MWE changes" rule
btw, @JosephWright, how does it happen that I flag an answer, the answer gets deleted, but the flag is "disputed" ?
 
@tohecz Cage fight? :)
 
@PauloCereda what? No, I just want to know what happened ;)
 
@tohecz No idea
@tohecz High rep users can mark flags as invalid
 
@JosephWright yeah, but I don't think it would be the case here, well, nevermind
 
kan
1:27 PM
Good evening friends.
!!/cricket
 
1:39 PM
I compiled the following code with xelatex successfully but the generated PDF has no visible figures.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[a5paper,margin=2cm,showframe]{geometry}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{multido}
\usepackage{ifxetex}

\ifxetex
	\newcount\pdflastximagepages
	\def\pdfximage#1{\pdflastximagepages=\XeTeXpdfpagecount"#1"\relax}
\fi

\def\filename{pst-fun-doc.pdf}
\def\scale{0.4}
\pdfximage{\filename}

\begin{document}
	\multido{\i=1+1}{\the\pdflastximagepages}{%
		\begin{center}
		\fbox{\includegraphics[page=\i,scale=\scale]{\filename}}
		\end{center}
		\newpage
	}
\end{document}
I used TeX Live 2012.
I also viewed the PDF with Adobe Reader 11.0.1
Compiling with pdflatex makes this issue fixed.
Hi folks, do you have the same issue?
 
2:05 PM
@AdorableCreature I get the same output with both xelatex and pdflatex.
 
@PauloCereda Oh, it is funny.
 
@AdorableCreature I don't have that file: is it part of TL?
 
@JosephWright yes. you can try the code with pgfmanual.pdf. I have tried but it failed as well.
@JosephWright: pgfmanual.pdf is too big.
@JosephWright: pst-fun-doc.pdf is included in TeX Live 2012.
SumatraPDF aslo cannot show the imported images.
 
2:21 PM
@AdorableCreature For me, kpsewhich pst-fun-doc.pdf gives nothing: odd
 
kan
@AdorableCreature In case you'd like to reply, you could hover your mouse pointer over the message you'd like to reply to, and on the right, you should see an arrow that looks like reflected enter key. :)
@PauloCereda How is arara manual coming? :)
 
@kan Well... not so good. :)
 
@AdorableCreature No problem here; tried pdflatex, xelatex and lualatex
 
@kan Yes. I have learnt it several months ago. My teacher was Jasper Loy. :-)
 
Please, does anybody here know any "typical" reason why [compress] doesn't work in {natbib}?
 
2:24 PM
@egreg OK. Thanks for the confirmation.
 
@tohecz Because it's sort&compress, probably. ;-)
 
@egreg neither works, [compress], [sort&compress], [sort,compress]
 
@tohecz Only for numeric references, of course.
 
@egreg yes
 
@tohecz there should be also compress, actually. No MWE, no party. :)
 
kan
2:27 PM
@PauloCereda heh, not nice to hear! :(
 
@egreg yeah, well, MWE contains my own class 800 lines, adding natbib support when you redefine bibliography appearance is a pain-in-the-(where-sun-does-not-shine)
 
@kan arara 3 is ready since september. :P
 
kan
@PauloCereda modulo the manual, huh?
 
@kan :P
 
and ctan.org is down :(
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}

\usepackage[sort&compress]{natbib}

\begin{document}

\cite{c,d,a}

\begin{thebibliography}{9}

\bibitem{a} AAA
\bibitem{b} BBB
\bibitem{c} CCC
\bibitem{d} DDD

\end{thebibliography}

\end{document}
 
2:37 PM
@tohecz Bibitem format doesn't look right
 
@JosephWright so natbib requiers the nat*.bst styles?
 
@tohecz It can't work; natbib needs a special format of the arguments to \bibitem
 
ok, strange thing is that sort works
 
@tohecz Well, you can format by hand but ...
 
@JosephWright but authors of all the scientific articles, who don't even know what is bib(la)tex, they won't. I need an "instant and robust" solution
 
2:41 PM
@tohecz In that case, a natbib-compatible .bst is what you want :-)
 
@JosephWright for me ok, but for for the authors no
 
@tohecz Why not?
 
@JosephWright because they are stupid Czech professors who don't know what BibTeX is and who are able to write the names in one reference as A. Surname and John Doe, Clinton, B.
 
@tohecz Oh
@tohecz I guess I'm used to REVTeX and achemso, where the rule is simple ;-)
 
@tohecz Here's the format
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}

\usepackage[numbers,sort&compress]{natbib}


\begin{document}

\cite{article03,article01,article02}

\begin{thebibliography}{9}

\bibitem[A(1000)]{article01} AAA
\bibitem[B(1000)]{article02} BBB
\bibitem[C(1000)]{article03} CCC
\bibitem[D(1000)]{article04} DDD

\end{thebibliography}

\end{document}
You need an "author" part and a "year" part, even if they aren't used. Either change the "author" or the "year", they can't be equal to one another.
 
2:55 PM
\documentclass[a4paper]{article}

\usepackage[numbers,sort&compress]{natbib}

\makeatletter
\newcounter{X@bibstep}
\setcounter{X@bibstep}{1000}
\def\X@bibstep{[A(\the\c@X@bibstep)]}
\let\X@bibitem\bibitem
\def\bibitem{\global\advance\c@X@bibstep1\@ifnextchar[\X@bibitem{\expandafter\X@bibitem\X@bibstep}}

\begin{document}

\cite{c,e,b,a}


\begin{thebibliography}{9}

\bibitem{a} AAA
\bibitem{b} BBB
\bibitem{c} CCC
\bibitem{d} DDD
\bibitem{e} EEE

\end{thebibliography}

\end{document}
@egreg Thanks a lot!
 
\makeatletter
\newcounter{X@bibstep}\setcounter{X@bibstep}{1000}
\let\X@bibitem\bibitem
\def\bibitem{\stepcounter{X@bibstep}\X@bibitem[A(\theX@bibstep)]}
\makeatother
@tohecz It can be simpler. :)
 
@egreg I had some problem with expandibility and thought \expandafter is necessary. Thanks! Still, since I might implement it directly into the class, I need to be ready for people using non-numeric citations, hence I need \@ifnextchar[
 
@tohecz \stepcounter is always global; there's no point in calling \@ifnextchar, unless some of your \bibitem has an optional argument.
 
3:14 PM
It's annoying that the moderncv class doesn't actually have a manual.
 
I'm unbelievably happy about the result of the first round of the presidental election in Czech Republic.
 
3:29 PM
@tohecz Where did you find the news?
 
@egreg they're unofficial (2.5 hours after voting ended), the cadidates have something like 23, 23, 16, 16, ... precent so it is moreorless clear.
 
@tohecz What rules (STV would not be clear!)
 
@JosephWright if no candidate has over 50%, the two best graduate to the 2nd round
 
@tohecz Well, I don't know who are the first two. :)
 
@AlanMunn Добро пожаловать в arara!
Apparently, arara now speaks Russian. :)
 
3:38 PM
@egreg Milos Zeman (former comunist in 80s, was a socialist leader in 90s, then retired, founded a new party 3 years ago, and he's clearly part of Czech mafia, together with Klaus), Karel Schwarzenberg (comes from the family of Schwarzenberg, was in disent during the communist era, now the minister of foreign affairs and a head of one of our new parties, he's quite old [68 I think], his party is a bit controversial, however, I believe that he's a good person with high morals)
@PauloCereda lol
 
@tohecz Czech some day. wink wink
 
@PauloCereda you mean арара :p
 
@tohecz I wonder how arara is written in Czech. Probably rr. You guys don't like vowels. :)
 
@PauloCereda no, standard "arara" (phonetically ;) ), we only don't write this "ǝ" sound (as in "the")
but depending on how you pronounce it, maybe "arára"
 
@PauloCereda Hebrew?
 
3:45 PM
@tohecz ooh! :)
 
@tohecz You can hear that in the video we have from UK-TUG2012
 
@JosephWright Maybe. :)
@JosephWright No, thanks. :)
 
@PauloCereda I think it's just repeating what it hears. :)
 
@JosephWright yeah, I think that the middle "a" is a bit prolonged there, hence "arára"
@JosephWright רר
 
3:48 PM
@AlanMunn Louro quer bolacha. :)
 
@tohecz I don't think it's prolonged. Just stressed.
 
@AlanMunn yeah, I just listened to it now, it's definitely "arara"
 
@PauloCereda Shouldn't that be "Loro"?
 
@AlanMunn Yes, phonetically it's what the bird says. :)
 
@PauloCereda It seems that Google search prefers Loro but both spellings seem to be around.
 
3:56 PM
@AlanMunn :)
 
(Google also prefers 'biscoito' over 'bolacha' it seems.)
 
@AlanMunn ooh!
 
 
1 hour later…
5:08 PM
Hopefully -1 for the "unanswered" list:
1
Q: titlesec - set top margin for the appendix and bibliography

knguyenA while ago I was helped using titlesec to format the chapter title for my thesis. Today a reviewer says that the appendix and the bibliography need 1in top margin. How do I do it? Thanks. \documentclass[letter, 12pt]{report} \usepackage{cite} \usepackage{amsthm} \usepackage{amsmath} \newtheorem...

 
@lockstep agreed :)
 
@tohecz Regarding the recent "titlesec spacing" question: The OP pointed out that my solution produces an extra \baselineskip. Do you have any idea why this is so?
 
@lockstep mmnt, will look into it. link?
 
!!/texdef -t latex vspace
 
5:29 PM
What does !!/ prefix mean?
 
@lockstep I can't tell what's doing on, @egreg is an expert on this. However, the following works nicely:
\titleformat{\subsection}
    {\vspace{-12pt}\vbox to 12pt{}%
    \normalfont\bfseries}{\thesubsection}{12pt}{}
24
Q: Psmith, the friendly TeX bot, at your service

Paulo CeredaPrologue We love hanging out in our main chatroom. It's a very friendly place, where we talk about virtually everything - even TeX, sometimes! I decided to give it a try and add a few "extra features" to our chatroom, and the result is presented in this meta thread. I was planning to implement ...

 
@tohecz Thanks for the link.
 
@tohecz Sadly, this allows for (unwanted) page breaks between a \section and a directly adjoing \subsection.
 
@lockstep dammit
adding \nobreak before \vbox?
 
@tohecz It's equivalent to using \vspace*
 
5:35 PM
@egreg it obviously is not
 
I added another answer to create a "canonical" Q+A:
2
6
Q: Creating unnumbered chapters/sections (plus adding them to the ToC and/or header)

Ayman ElmasryI'm using the report document class for a thesis, and I need to add things like "Acknowledgements" and an "Introduction". I noticed that there is an \abstract command which would have been wonderful if applied similarly. How do I add these without messing up the chapters' numbering while being pi...

 
5
A: How can I make \titlespacing not omit the top spacing?

lockstepYou may add \vspace{-1cm}\vspace*{1cm} in the proper argument of \titleformat -- the two spaces will offset each other except at the top of a page. This is simpler than tohecz's "box" solution and, unlike egreg's solution, will not result in additional vertical space between a \section and a dire...

 
@tohecz I get exactly the same.
 
@egreg yeah, now remove \baselineskip there
@lockstep I believe \sectionmark and \chaptermark exist
 
@tohecz If you use \chaptermark for an unnumbered chapter that succeeds a numbered one, the standard class header will still display the old (now wrong) chapter number.
 
5:39 PM
@lockstep oh damn numbers! ok...
 
@tohecz The solution with \baselineskip works correctly.
 
@egreg yes, but needs \baselineskip. Why? And why changing \vspace* to \vbox makes a difference?
 
@tohecz I didn't know this on top of my head -- I already tried it (and failed).
 
@tohecz That's because you want it to work also at start of page. I don't see differences between \vspace* and \vbox
 
@egreg ok, but that means there is a difference between \vspace* and \vbox, the former one insiderts a line in case it is after a pagebreak, or what.
 
5:43 PM
@tohecz And from the OP's comments, I believe that only 6pt above and below are wanted. So \vbox{} is out of the question.
@tohecz ?
 
@egreg \vbox is out of the question. But the following two codes produce a different output and I don't understand why:
\vspace{-12pt}\vspace*{12pt}
\vpsace{-12pt}\vbox to 12pt{}
 
@tohecz Should they? I don't see any difference in that context.
 
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{multicol}

\usepackage{sectsty}
\allsectionsfont{\normalsize\bfseries}

\usepackage[compact]{titlesec}
\titlespacing*{\section}{0pt}{24pt}{24pt}
\titlespacing*{\subsection}{0pt}{12pt}{12pt}
\titleformat{\subsection}
{\vspace{-12pt}\vbox to 12pt{}%
\normalfont\bfseries}{\thesubsection}{12pt}{}

\begin{document}\raggedcolumns

\makeatletter
%\show\@vspace

\begin{multicols}{2}

\lipsum[1]
\section{foo}
\subsection*{Good section}
\lipsum[2-3]
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{multicol}

\usepackage{sectsty}
\allsectionsfont{\normalsize\bfseries}

\usepackage[compact]{titlesec}
\titlespacing*{\section}{0pt}{24pt}{24pt}
\titlespacing*{\subsection}{0pt}{12pt}{12pt}
\titleformat{\subsection}
{\vspace{-12pt}\vspace*{12pt}%
\normalfont\bfseries}{\thesubsection}{12pt}{}

\begin{document}\raggedcolumns

\makeatletter
%\show\@vspace

\begin{multicols}{2}

\lipsum[1]
\section{foo}
\subsection*{Good section}
\lipsum[2-3]
 
@tohecz Remember that \vbox to12pt{} adds interline glue, which \vspace* doesn't
 
@egreg I don't know what is it but it's not important now, because I gotta go soon
 
6:33 PM
@tohecz So, what was the subject of your paper, the one that got scooped?
 
leo
7:22 PM
hi there!
 
user19161
7:36 PM
@FaheemMitha Your gravatar is so faint that it is almost invisible.
 
8:07 PM
Interesting e-mail I've just received:
since you are the author of biblatex style for some physical journals, I'd
like to ask you if you would write a biblatex style for The Astronomical
Journal and The Astrophysical Journal.  Here are reference conventions of these
journals: aas.org/journals/authors/common_instruct#references

Thank for your time.
 
@JosephWright This one can be deleted as a literal duplicate:
0
Q: How do I fix "roman.sty not found" using LaTeX?

Marius Possible Duplicate: How do I fix “roman.sty not found” using LaTeX? I've been using Texmaker on Ubuntu 12.04 for a while now. I've editing several documents and especially resumes. However, I've recently been experiencing several problems with LaTex and Texmaker, starting from the upgr...

 
@lockstep Done: I was expecting the migration (I'd asked for it)
 
@JosephWright Astrophysical!
:)
 
8:24 PM
@JosephWright Do they talk about financial support?
 
@egreg Other than the 'hello' and signature that's the e-mail :-)
 
@JosephWright My answer would contain some hints about that. ;-)
@PauloCereda David has taken a day off; just to let me win the week, he'll say. ;-)
 
@JosephWright congratulations you won another task ;) i guess as a maintainer of a famous package one has to get used to such emails... I remember briefly that michael niedermayer mentioned such requests when he announced to stop with libertine
 
@bloodworks I actually get only a few related to the BibTeX and biblatex styles
@bloodworks I get quite a few about siunitx :-)
@bloodworks beamer mainly attracts issues in the database
 
@JosephWright i wonder why people can't even mention that they know how much work it could be
 
8:33 PM
@mico I suspect the reason the XeLaTeX versus LuaLaTeX question has been so-far answerless is that most packages which need a UTF-8 engine try to cover both, and those that need Lua clearly need LuaTeX and so people don't even see the issue.
 
@JasonBourne It was automatically generated. I think from my email address. It used to be black. Then I changed my address. I'd heard rumors you can actually change the thing to something you want.
 
@bloodworks I have no idea if they do, certainly not when the question comes with no code
@FaheemMitha Quite: the auto-generated image will always be the same for the same e-mail address, but is otherwise not controllable
 
@JosephWright I got the following e-mail about the he-she package:
in the documentation of your he-she package in section 2 Background (1)
you forgot the possibility
"When a student registers, she receives an ID card."
In my country there are more female than male students, therefore this
option is at least as justified as the other options.
 
@AlanMunn Hmm
 
@egreg I think journals get so used to everyone working for nothing that after a while they just expect it.
Authors and reviewers do it for free. Journals make profits. Wonderful world we live in.
@JosephWright I hope you won't do it for nothing.
 
user19161
8:36 PM
@FaheemMitha Rumours? HAHAHAHAHA
 
Another one from the "unanswered" list:
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Q: Creating a new list of appendices with tocloft

simoI just implemented lockstep's solution from here, but the content in the list of appendices also gets listed in the toc, which should not be the case. How would one ensure this is avoided? Below is the code I've used. The report class has been used because I want to have chapters in the document....

 
@FaheemMitha Support more open access journals. :) It's a slow road depending on the field.
 
@AlanMunn weird
 
@FaheemMitha When authors don't have to pay.
 
@FaheemMitha In my area, most journals are owned by learned societies, so the money is used to support useful activities
 
8:37 PM
@AlanMunn I try to. I really, really hate signing copyright over to some journal. I did it once. If I have to do it again, it will feel like pulling teeth.
@JosephWright Do you look at their accounts? :-)
 
@AlanMunn There are issues with that approach too
 
@JosephWright I'm sure there are. What do you have in mind?
 
@FaheemMitha Yes: I'm a member of the RSC and ACS, and have considered joining GDCh too
@AlanMunn Industry
@AlanMunn Industry uses a lot of info but does not lead to a large number of publications. Currently they therefore pay a lot more than they would under a totally open-access model.
 
@AlanMunn Yes, the open access journals may also be for profit, so also making money off unpaid labor. But they are probably preferable to the proprietary variety.
 
@AlanMunn Also long-term viability (who pays for the journals which go out-of-print)
 
8:39 PM
@JosephWright Ok. As long as you know what goes on.
@egreg True. I forgot about that.
 
@FaheemMitha The RSC (Royal Society of Chemistry) makes most of its money from journal publishing, and it's used for things like conferences, policy work, etc.
 
@JosephWright But doesn't that all go to the publishers anyway? I guess for journals run by professional societies that's a good thing. But for journals published by Springer or whatever, the field doesn't benefit from that.
 
@JosephWright Ok. With a name like Royal, I assume it is British.
 
@JosephWright Yes, that's a more complicated concern.
 
@AlanMunn Of course it does :-) The point is that under an open access model, academic research pays more of the cost of the publication process, and industry pays less, so we end up subsidising commercial research. I'm particularly thinking of big pharma and the heavy oil business.
Publishing does cost, so it has to be paid for one way or another
 
8:43 PM
@JosephWright Interesting. Was not aware of that. But we all subsidize commercial research anyway. Taxpayer money pays for fundamental research, which is then monetized by corporations. Case in point, computers and the internet.
 
@JosephWright True. And I agree with this. But then some sort of mixed payment model is required. (In my field, the industry issue is less relevant, but obviously in yours it's a big deal.)
 
Decades of tax-payer funded work so some jerks in Seattle can get rich.
 
@FaheemMitha :-) ACS = American Chemical Society, GDCH = Gesellschaft Deutscher Chemiker
@AlanMunn The areas where open access has worked best seem to be those with a small concern about this or those where pre-publication is standard anyway (e.g. physics)
 
@JosephWright Right. I forgot you are a chemist.
 
@JosephWright Right. We have a lot of pre-publication as well in linguistics. My advisor once got very annoyed when a journal published a reply to one of his papers before the paper itself had been published by the journal.
 
8:46 PM
@AlanMunn My point really is that some of the discussion you see about open access seems to ignore the fact that there is a reason why 'proper' publication is still about even though we could all simply stick our research on privately-run websites.
@AlanMunn Oops
@AlanMunn I suspect one reason we don't do that is that we have the patent issue: if you get a big result with applications you (or your employer) will want IP protection.
 
@JosephWright Yes, that's true. Also nothing is truly free, so the costs have to be borne by someone, and lots of the Free{software|publishing|internet| ... } seem to ignore that entirely.
 
@AlanMunn Indeed. Case-in-point: CTAN.
 
@JosephWright Yep. Was the request for the biblatex style you got from the journal itself, or just a user?
 
@AlanMunn As far as I can tell, just a user
 
@JosephWright Too bad. If it was from the journal, you could negotiate a price and get paid for it.
 
8:53 PM
@AlanMunn A quick search reveals they have contributed to CTAN ;-)
@AlanMunn I don't get anything other than satisfaction for writing achemso
 
@JosephWright No, I understand that. But if some journals thought it useful to have their styles made in to biblatex styles, they would likely be willing to pay for it.
 
@AlanMunn Yes, that's hopefully true. To be fair, my contact at the ACS is very friendly and does seem to appreciate that I'm doing them a big favour.
@AlanMunn On the other hand, the RSC recently developed a new template which seems to be based on mine but without bothering to contact me :-(
 
@JosephWright Do you at least get a free subscription out of it?
 
@AlanMunn As I said, just satisfaction
 
@JosephWright BTW, how's the new job going? Are you enjoying the teaching? Are you managing to get any work done?
 
8:59 PM
@AlanMunn I'm currently marking lab scripts :-)
@AlanMunn Very busy: need to get on and apply for money, but also have to go to do experiments for 10 days in Oxfordshire and to China for 4 weeks
 
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