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Q: Where to download pdflatex.exe?

CharlesI ran a Google search but nothing too clear showed up. I'm looking for a Windows 7 compatible version of pdflatex.exe to help me in typesetting some math I have in an Illustrator project. I heard about it through this tutorial: http://www.justskins.com/forums/math-equation-editing-in-86877.html

Erm... what?!
 
12:17 AM
@PauloCereda I thoght he was talking about MathType but now @AlanMunn's answer makes me doubt what he was really looking for.
 
@GonzaloMedina What was your memoir question? (Mind you, I'm not an expert.)
@GonzaloMedina Well I answered the question asked. :) But you may be right. The linked thread doesn't seem to mention pdftex at all. But I don't know how MathType works.
 
@AlanMunn Ah, yes. Yesterday there was a question about subcaptions, and when I tried to test some example code from the documentation, I obtained some errors, so maybe I wasn't loading some required package(s)? Let me look for the concrete example.
 
@Gonzalo: Maybe the OP is trying to render math in Illustrator. I know Scribus can have some LaTeX-stuff embedded, but never tried myself.
 
@AlanMunn Neither do I.
 
I'm constantly amazed at what's on the web. In my backgammon investigations I discovered this: ustream.tv/recorded/21184037 @PauloCereda, now you can do some unsupervised learning :)
 
12:21 AM
:3978323 It's the example in pages 206-207 of the manual: \documentclass{memoir}

\begin{document}

\begin{figure}
\centering
\subbottom[Subfigure 1]{\fbox{SUBFIGURE ONE}\label{sf:1}}
\hfill
\subbottom[Subfigure 2]{\fbox{SUBFIGURE TWO}\label{sf:2}}
\caption{Figure with two subfigures} \label{fig:twosubfig}
\end{figure}

\end{document}
 
@AlanMunn Nooooooo, "Service Unavailable". :( I saved the link, so I can learn backgammon. :P
 
@GonzaloMedina This compiles fine for me. What's the problem for you?
 
@AlanMunn The error: ! LaTeX Error: No counter 'subfigure' defined.
 
@AlanMunn I believe the problem is the documentation.
5 hours ago, by David Carlisle
@Canageek moral of the story: never read the documentation, bad things happen
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(Out of context quote strikes again) :P
 
So I tried loading subfig, then subcaption, and in a final attempt, subfigure, but to no avail.
 
12:24 AM
@GonzaloMedina Oh, yes. Sorry, I pasted it into my other document. (Cheating). To use subfigures you need to define a subfloat. Add \newsubfloat{figure} to your preamble.
 
@AlanMunn Ah, I see. Yes, that solves the problem. Thank you.
 
@GonzaloMedina And that is in the documentation, although I think it's not so clearly explained.
 
@AlanMunn Yes, I am sure it is in the documentation, but it sounds odd to me to have to manually define that new type of subfloat. Perhaps I am too accustomed to the way things work in the standard classes.
 
@GonzaloMedina Right, I agree, it's an odd way to do things. memoir can be quite frustrating that way, which is why I only use it for big things. These are also the kinds of things that make lockstep and many others prefer KOMA, which depends much more on other packages for all this sort of stuff.
 
I never used KOMA. I should try it. :)
 
12:33 AM
@AlanMunn Perhaps someday I will give a serious try to memoir or the KOMA classes; for the time being I will stick to the standard classes.
I don't like that profusion of class-dependant commands.
What's "rpg-like stuff"? (From a starred comment by Stephan Lehmke)
 
@GonzaloMedina It's like those RPG games where you need to acomplish missions to advance in the game, e.g., Zelda. :)
Like, "collect 10 coins", "use a potion". :P
 
@PauloCereda Ah. Role-Playing-Games?
 
@GonzaloMedina Yes. :)
@egreg: we miss you! :)
 
12:55 AM
Dinner time! Bye, everyone!
 
@GonzaloMedina Bye Gonzalo! :)
 
 
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2:47 AM
@PauloCereda Zelda isn't an RPG.....
 
 
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4:19 AM
I don't know if this is lame or useful but there is a kitten died after hearing the argument around 2:25 :D
 
 
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5:56 AM
I read several times "I don't have enough rep to attach a picture". Does this mean there will come a time when I can just attach a picture to a post? How much reputation do I need for this?
 
@StephanLehmke You can find more info in tex.stackexchange.com/privileges/new-user
 
@percusse Thanks. So I still have to upload the image somwhere else and set a link to it.
 
@StephanLehmke Well you have more than enough rep for that. You merely need 10 rep points and I see you have almost 1000. So there is no problem with that. We want the new users to upload the image as usual but remove the leading ! character hence making it a plain link. By doing so, we can add it later via editing.
 
6:12 AM
@percusse Thank you, it's clear to me now.
 
6:23 AM
@PauloCereda Hard day at work and then a dinner with TeX friends after the course. But today I'm very happy!
 
 
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7:50 AM
@percusse Interesting idea, but one comment I agree with: "It makes me motion sick just to watch this video. Sorry, but synchronized side-by-side feels better."
 
8:21 AM
Whoo 1000 rep within the first 6 days ;-)
Just added my first image :-)
 
@StephanLehmke Congrats!
Now you should go for badges ;-))
 
I was tempted, but it seemed like cheating to click though the FAQ just for getting the "bookworm" badge or whatever it's called.
But I got the "critic" badge even though I voted back up immediately afterwards. Can I give it back for fairness?
 
It might be cheating, but once you have done that you know at least that there is an FAQ and you might remember the topics in the future, so I won't call this cheating
@StephanLehmke AFAIK badges are permanent, even though something might be reversed
You could always delete your account and start from a clean one ;-)
 
Never. I guess the only golden badge I'll ever get is for staying online all the time ;-)
 
8:45 AM
@StephanLehmke Or you might write a question that gets popular and get a gold badge for that.
 
 
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10:14 AM
@AlanMunn: I watched the video, very cool! :) But I still have no idea what's going on there. :P
 
10:38 AM
@egreg Cool! I think the course is being awesome. :)
 
10:50 AM
@PatrickGundlach I had the same feeling when watching the video. :) I do believe there is merit in that preview technique, but for me it doesn't make sense to use it with LaTeX or other code that's not preview-driven.
Wow, @David's quote is ranked 1st with 8 votes! :)
 
@PauloCereda I'll probably lose my job (producing documentation)
 
@DavidCarlisle We won't tell anybody, we promise. :)
 
google knows all
 
:)
I was once looking for a very specific mathematics book. I searched almost all places I could, but it was in vain. Then I found a scanned version available on those sharing programs - it was around 100mb, with a 0.2kb/s. I waited, waited and waited. When the book was finally dowloaded, I opened. It was a Japanese translation. :P
 
@PauloCereda that's ok google knows all, you just OCR it and give it back to google translate. what could go wrong?
 
11:03 AM
@DavidCarlisle Oops, I forgot about that. :P
 
11:18 AM
@PauloCereda Did you see the badge list? The second gold badge tag has been awarded: :)
 
@egreg grats!
 
@egreg Oh my, congrats!!!!! :)
 
11:35 AM
@PauloCereda I'm in a great company with Jake!
 
@egreg :)
 
11:51 AM
@egreg: Four gold badges! :D
 
I didn't realize that also Altermundus got the gold badge!
The company is even greater!
 
Yay! :)
Another epic username. :P
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Q: Croatian characters not printing in xelatex/biblatex-biber

DGarsideThe following minimal example omits the Croatian accented z/c from the author name in the compiled PDF. \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[style=authoryear,firstinits,uniquename=init,natbib=true,backend=biber,indexing=true]{biblatex} \addbibresour...

We could ask Ulrike to convert the comment to an answer. :)
Or close the question as too localized. :)
 
12:11 PM
@PauloCereda So much for unsupervised learning. :)
 
I now know more about the internals of LaTeX than I knew half an hour ago, and more than I want to know right now.
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12:30 PM
@AndrewStacey There are ways to forget.
 
Any expert in Windoze that can help on how to launch a command shell?
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Q: How to run Metafont in TeXnicCenter

ThanosI want to create a Feynman diagram, with the feynmf package. While compiling, no error occurs, but no diagram is produced. I have searched through the net, and I found that I have to create an mf file. The code I am using is \documentclass{article} \usepackage{feynmf} \begin{docume...

 
@egreg Run, cmd
 
@egreg I guess cmd.exe /C mf one. :)
 
@PauloCereda As you probably know, I can't test it. :) The problem is to launch it so that the working directory is the same as the one.mf file.
 
@egreg I can fix that. :) Let me write a code. :)
 
12:34 PM
@PauloCereda Write an answer, I may add something about using feynmp instead of feynmf
 
@egreg Should we call mf from LaTeX?
 
12:48 PM
@PauloCereda That's even a bigger problem, as it requires the -shell-escape option and Thanos doesn't seem very acquainted with using non standard things
 
@PauloCereda I knew i should have kept those bat scripts i had from before i switched to unix... Hmm. Note to self.
 
@egreg Ah. :) I have another idea. A semi-automatic solution is to create a batch file with the proper mf call and tell the OP to drag the .mf file to it.
@zeroth hehe those are lifesavers. :)
 
@PauloCereda That might do.
 
@egreg The easiest thing, as far as I remember, is to do it "manually".
 
@egreg but the OP will have to type end in the mf shell. Is it a problem?
 
12:50 PM
@PauloCereda Yes! I was pleasantly surprised when i found them. It can be made fully automatically. I can dig them when i get home from school.
 
@PauloCereda the end instruction is already in the mf file.
 
@egreg Do you think you will be able to supply an answer within 3 hours?
 
@zeroth It's good to have them. :) I should take a look in the PowerShell too. :)
 
@PauloCereda I am absolutely horrible at pressing the correct message to reply to! Where is the damn terminal in this chat! :)
 
@zeroth I'm not even trying. "I never use … Windoze" /with the grave Bela Lugosi's tone
 
12:53 PM
@egreg Does the OP's code work for you? For me, it raises errors in both .tex and .mf files. :(
 
@PauloCereda I think even powershell is too much.
 
@zeroth Agreed, in this case it is. :)
 
@egreg Yes, sorry it was for Paulo (i can see, and understand why, that you only use unix) :)
 
@zeroth I can save that answer for you, if you want. :)
 
@PauloCereda Actually I have to hand in my masters in \approx\ 2 weeks so if you feel like it just go ahead (but if you dont, I will probably do it, as i love scripting and think that windoze people should be way more into it!!!!)
 
12:58 PM
@zeroth :)
 
if they were more into it they probably wouldn't be using Windows in the first place.
 
@RoelofSpijker You saw my evil master plan there... :)
@RoelofSpijker Make them addicted to scripts, then offer unix.
 
meh, some things just don't work well with Linux. I can understand why people would want to stick with Windows.
 
@RoelofSpijker That's a whole new discussion. :)
 
@PauloCereda That's a different problem. :)
 
1:06 PM
@egreg Apart from that, the .cmd suggestion is ready. :) I just would like to test with a proper working code. :P
 
@PauloCereda The .mf file not compiling is just a sizing problem.
 
@egreg Is there a way to fix that?
 
@PauloCereda Is the interview with @GonzaloMedina today?
 
@JosephWright Yes. :) Less than 2 hours. :)
 
1:25 PM
@PauloCereda Yes. When you've written the part on .cmd I can make some suggestions.
 
@egreg OK. :) Is there a simple example that I can use?
@JosephWright: Great blogpost BTW. :)
 
@PauloCereda The OP's one, but calling mf \mode=ljfour; input one
 
@egreg Ah!
 
@PauloCereda It's not a very friendly package. :)
 
@egreg It works, but TeXworks already deals with MetaFont, it seems. :P
How's the call one should use to process one.mf? Only mf one?
 
1:39 PM
@PauloCereda No, as I said mf \mode=ljfour; input one
 
@egreg Oops. :) Two files were generated, one.600gf and one.tfm. Is this correct?
 
@PauloCereda Yes
 
@egreg Cool! Now I'm confused, a pdflatex call already deals with MetaFont, I wonder what is happening with the OP's setup.
@egreg: hm oops, it fails because it doesn't have the line you mentioned. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'll suggest to use metapost; don't worry too much about mf
 
@egreg We could do the other way around. Add an answer and I'll suggest the batch part. :P
That package is evil!!!
 
1:48 PM
OK
 
@egreg I'll add the suggestion now. By the way, I'm facing this:
! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> \erlpm

l.5 ...319,-1.21455,lt){${\ensuremath {\erlpm }}$}
                                                  %
after the first run. :(
 
@PauloCereda That's irrelevant: add \providecommand{\erlpm}{} to the preamble; it's a command that Thanos defined for himself and forgot to mention
 
@egreg Fantastic! :)
@egreg: should I add a new answer or edit yours?
 
@PauloCereda Add another one
 
@egreg OK. :)
 
2:07 PM
@egreg I need to chat with you about your tag edits yesterday; specifically removing the font tags and why you did that.
 
@Canageek What question are you referring to?
 
It is rather font package specific, thus the tags
If I was using kpfont for examples I'd use \betaup
 
@PeterGrill Call of Duty for \tikzmark
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Q: Typesetting email with internet-style quoting using LaTeX?

sdaauI'm wandering if there exists a package, that would take so-called Internet-Style Quoted plain text of an email, and format it accordingly for a PDF output. Internet-style quoting is discussed on the Wikipedia page Posting style; so let's say I take an example from there, and I have the following...

:D
 
@percusse Why on earth do you need tikzmark for that? o.0
 
2:19 PM
@Canageek To draw the lines next to the text.
 
@Canageek I've not edited the tags
 
Oh no, I forgot to replace MF by MP in the screenshots.
@egreg: MetaPost was so easier to use than MetaFont. :)
 
@egreg Opps, sorry, clicked on the wrong thing in my history.
That was @lockstep
 
@egreg: I'm out of votes, I can't upvote your answer. sob :(
 
2:38 PM
The OP now gets Cannot include graphics of type: mps. It sounds like the OP is not running pdflatex. :(
 
@PauloCereda I'll add the trick
 
@percusse Yeah I guess if the OP wanted vertical lines to delineate the separate threads but that would require editing the email text. But in this case since he wants to simply incorporate an existing email then listings is probably the way to go.
 
@egreg Cool! :) And I pointed the OP to your new code. :)
 
@PeterGrill I see. But Ithought that you can already eat the > characters as with the current answer. But I didn't know how to get the last of them to put the ening tikzmark
 
2:55 PM
@percusse For that I would just keep track of the current nesting depth. When the nesting depth increased I would add a start marker, and when the nesting depth decreased add the end marker. Of course separate start/end markers would be needed for each depth.
 
@PeterGrill Ah, that doesn't look that straightforward indeed. I was obviously underestimating the question
 
@PauloCereda: I'm here already. I will take a cup of coffee and a cigarette and then we can begin the ineterview, if that's OK with you.
 
@GonzaloMedina Sure, Gonzalo. :)
Friends, an interview with Gonzalo Medina is about to begin! To the Hall of Justice! I mean, the interview room. :)

 TeXtalk - Interviews

Interviews for our community blog.
 
@PauloCereda Thanks; I'll be back in 8min ;-)
 
@GonzaloMedina :)
 
3:03 PM
@PauloCereda Sorry, but I won't be able to participate; I'm going to the train in a few minutes and then go out when I'm at home: Bach's "Johannes Passion" will be performed tonight.
 
@egreg Oh. :( We'll miss you. :) Any question for Gonzalo?
 
@PauloCereda OK, I'm here (and there).
 
@GonzaloMedina Cool! Let's go there. :)
 
@percusse: Why you put the minus sign in {-} in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/49632/…?
 
@PeterGrill It's a negative number that appears on the plot. Actually I just copy pasted the OP's values. So I can't be sure.
 
3:46 PM
Can be closed as "too localized", based on the OP's last comment:
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Q: Croatian characters not printing in xelatex/biblatex-biber

DGarsideThe following minimal example omits the Croatian accented z/c from the author name in the compiled PDF. \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[style=authoryear,firstinits,uniquename=init,natbib=true,backend=biber,indexing=true]{biblatex} \addbibresour...

 
4:21 PM
@PeterGrill Hey! We seem to have dueling edits going on.
 
@AlanMunn I was quite confused as to why I did not see the comment about why he can't post an image when editing - so now it makes sense... How embarrassing we posted in the wrong room!! Since you were first, you can edit it..
 
@PeterGrill Yes, I just realised that and deleted the comment there. I'm assuming that @PauloCereda won't add it to the interview :) I've deleted my extra image. (It's not a problem, usually the system catches multiple edits like that.)
 
Yeah I have encountered that in the past. Quite annoying when you take time to fix something and then when you are done you can't save your edits as someone else already fixed it. Would be nice to know an edit was in progress...
 
5:10 PM
Any thoughts on what to do with
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Q: why is LaTeX / pdflatex compiler so 'funky' with multiple compiles necessary and bogus error messages, etc, compared to c++?

peter karasevIs there a simple explanation for why the latex / pdflatex compiler is funky in the following two ways: 1) N multiple compiles are necessary until you reach a "steady state" version. N seems to grow up to around 5 or 6 if I use many packages and references. 2) Error messages are almost always ...

The OP clearly is not happy that it got migrated, and wants input from C++ or similar programmers. But I can't just bounce it back!
 
@JosephWright I don't think I've seen 'wtf' in any other question on tex exchange :) he's definitely not happy...
 
@JosephWright Someone could tell the OP that a C++ compiler produces binary code while pdflatex produces human readable output. :(
 
@JosephWright Why exactly can't you "just bounce it back"?
 
@PauloCereda Yes, I'd thought about that, but he really wants a C++ or similar perspective
@lockstep It got migrated here, presumably by a SO mod. So simply sending it back will only wind people up.
 
@JosephWright I could give it a try, but I'll probably rage while writing it.
 
5:14 PM
I might ask in the mod chat later on to see what the SO mods think
 
@JosephWright But it's a "borderline" question and the OP clearly prefers SO.
 
@lockstep It perhaps needs better phrasing to make it clear what kind of an answer is required.
That will have to wait, though, as it's time to get off home
 
5:54 PM
@JosephWright: I'd like to add a link to the LaTeX companion in Gonzalo's interview. Should I go for any specific link?
I went with the link available in the LaTeX project page.
 
6:08 PM
@lockstep: could you review our new interview? :) (this time, I didn't accidentally press the Publish button) :P
 
@PauloCereda "so I found a forum on internet" --> "on the internet"
 
@lockstep Fixed. :)
 
@PauloCereda "functionality and easy of use" --> "ease of use"
 
@lockstep @PauloCereda Is there a way to fix things directly? (Would be faster.)
 
@lockstep Fixed. :)
@AlanMunn @JosephWright could give admin privileges to lockstep. :)
 
6:20 PM
@PauloCereda I meant for me (too). I have a bunch of corrections, but it seems inefficient to do it this way.
 
@AlanMunn Admin privileges for you too. :)
 
@PauloCereda I don't know if "ventured with" is correct. Any native speaker who cares to comment?
 
@lockstep 'ventured to', usually
 
The whole sentence:
"A couple of times I've used the features provided by xparse and I really like the increased functionality and ease of use. However, I still haven't ventured with the new syntax; I once took I quick look to the code of egreg's kantlipsum and found myself lost, although the general idea was understandable."
 
@PauloCereda 'ventured to us' perhaps
 
6:22 PM
@PauloCereda "I once took I quick look to the code" --> I once took a quick look at the code"
 
(in place of 'ventured with')
@lockstep You should already have editor rights for the blog
 
@JosephWright "I still haven't ventured to the new syntax"?
 
@PauloCereda "I still haven't ventured to use the new syntax"
@AlanMunn See e-mail
 
@JosephWright Yay!!!!!!!!!
 
More generally: anyone who wants author/editor to the blog, just post a message here for me, Stefan Kottwitz or Martin Scharrer and we can add you to the user list
 
6:27 PM
@JosephWright Yep, seems so. ;-)
@PauloCereda That's it.
 
@lockstep Thanks. :)
I wish we could use MarkDown to write posts.
It's way cleaner than the usual HTML editor.
 
@JosephWright THanks. Except I'm now discovering that it doesn't work like google docs, so I just got a message that my edits will override locksteps if I save them. Hmm. Maybe this wasn't such a good idea after all. What should I do with my edits?
 
@PauloCereda I thought there was a Markdown plugin installed
 
@JosephWright I'm not sure. :(
 
@AlanMunn I guess you either have to overwrite lockstep's or start again :-(
 
6:31 PM
@AlanMunn Override mine -- I just replaced "and" with an ampersand and then went back to "and".
 
@lockstep Ok. So I'll have a quick run through the whole thing again to see if there's anything I missed. Thanks. Please, then, no one else edit it right now. :(
 
Let's all edit the text right now! /ducks :P
 
@PauloCereda Ok. I'm done. @PauloCereda has to decide whether to use British or American spellings for his questions: ;-) one 'favorite' and one 'honour', so I went with 'honor'.
 
@AlanMunn Oops. :) When in doubt, I add an u. :P
 
Now that I'm a bona fide editor of the blog I guess I'm gonna have to actually write something myself...
 
6:41 PM
@AlanMunn Yay!!!!
 
@AlanMunn A biog for the 'contributors' page would be nice too :-)
 
@JosephWright First things first. I don't think I should list myself as a contributor until I actually contribute something :)
 
@Alan: there is a legend here about a soccer club president who bought a player for sixty million <old currency>. He wasn't sure on how to write "60" - sessenta with one S, SS or C - so he made two 30 million cheques. :P
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
Should we publish the interview now? :)
 
6:50 PM
@PauloCereda I think it's fine as far as I can see.
 
@AlanMunn Great! Could you publish it? :)
Thanks @Alan. :)
 
@PauloCereda Done. I also created a category "Interviews".
 
@AlanMunn Good idea.
 
@AlanMunn Great
 
I have to go and teach now, but it might be useful to have the other interviews categorized.
 
6:54 PM
The lion wears an arriero costume. :)
 
@AlanMunn I'll sort it
 
@AlanMunn Thanks for joining the blog team, Alan. :)
 
One more vote needed to close:
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Q: \newcommand to make a plot command using gnuplottex

Ruslan TaranI'm new to LaTeX and trying to write a command to plot files using the gnuplottex package (and gnuplot). For now I am doing this (and it works): \documentclass{article} \usepackage{gnuplottex} \begin{document} \begin{gnuplot}[terminal=pdf,scale=1] plot 'testfile' using 1:2 \end{gnuplot} \e...

 
@lockstep Voted. :)
 
@PauloCereda I see the Interview Lion has an expanding wardrobe :-)
 
7:02 PM
@JosephWright Indeed. :)
We could make a contest "Name that lion!" :)
 
@PauloCereda Did I get all of the interviews into the new category?
 
@JosephWright Yes. :)
 
Great interview! @PauloCereda @GonzaloMedina
 
@PatrickGundlach aww thanks! :)
 
New place for the Linux Libertine LaTeX style files: github.com/pgundlach/linuxlibertine
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I'll update more these days
 
7:13 PM
@PatrickGundlach Awesome!
 
7:31 PM
@JosephWright: the wardrobe is getting worse:
 
Anyone else seen the 'question' on c.t.t that seems to miss perhaps the last 10 years of TeX development :-)
 
@JosephWright The last one, from "Gabriel"? :)
 
@PauloCereda Yup
 
@JosephWright "What about full support for OpenType" LOL!
"There's no Linus in LaTeX" LOL!
I want to go to a TUG conference wearing a "There's no Linus in LaTeX' T-shirt. :)
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@PauloCereda My favourite was the one about including JPEGs
 
7:40 PM
@JosephWright ah yes! "import and understand the common graphics file formats natively(!), like SVG, EMF, JPEG, PNG, maybe even some proprietary binary formats like CorelDraw or Visio."
 
I just made a feature request to make inbox alerts easier to note:
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Q: Show inbox updates in page title

N.N.Recently the following was implemented New Feature: real time updates to questions, answers, and inbox. With this feature the amount of questions with new activity is shown in parenthesis at the beginning of the page title, e.g. "(2) Meta Stack Overflow" means that MSO has two questions with new ...

 
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A: why is LaTeX / pdflatex compiler so 'funky' with multiple compiles necessary and bogus error messages, etc, compared to c++?

Frank MittelbachI think you are making the wrong comparison; true, C++ has macros and all that, but there is one important distinction: TeX is an interpreted language that treats its programs as data and allows self-manipulation. Given that the meaning of any code fragment can never be analyzed on its own but on...

This answer brought tears of joy to my eyes. :)
 
8:15 PM
@JosephWright Really "fun" to read.
 
Indeed. I thought about replying, but I have decided not to, as it will only distract further from actually addressing the points raised :-)
 
When I read that question I thought that there has really been lots of improvements in the TeX world - in all areas
distributions, l3, IDEs, Xe/Lua/TeX, typography (HZ, PDFTeX), TiKZ and others
 
@PatrickGundlach Same here. As I said earlier, you get the impression the author has taken assumed that since things like LaTeX: A Document Preparation System have not changed then (La)TeX has not changed.
On the other hand, Ant gets a mention, and I suspect not so many people have even heard of it!
 
Thanks to @AlanMunn and @lockstep for their corrections!
 
@JosephWright I have tried it and I am happy to be back to LaTeX
 
8:21 PM
@JosephWright Ant? The building system?
 
@PauloCereda Nope
 
No "Ant is not TeX"
 
@PatrickGundlach Oh sorry. :)
 
@PauloCereda No catcodes, built in scripting of some form (don't remember what), supposed to do river detection I believe
 
I have tried hard to get the river detection to work (even with the help of the author) but didn't succeed
 
8:25 PM
@PatrickGundlach Thanks.
 
9:15 PM
Back from the performance: very intense. Frans Bruggen is really great.
 
Hey
Anyone have suggestions on how to make graphs that work well with LaTeX, that is, match in style and such?
 
@Canageek What kind of graphs?
 
@egreg Johannes Passion?
 
@egreg Basic X vs Y plots based on data points + a linear trendline.
 
@GonzaloMedina Yes, great performance
I missed your interview, but for a cause. :)
 
9:27 PM
@Canageek pgfplots
 
@egreg For that particular cause even I would have missed my interview ;-)
 
@egreg Might be a non-linear trendline in some cases. I'm willing to work with any program that lets me enter the data as some form of ASCII (X, Y, Xerror, Yerror) say then add a trendline.
@JosephWright My thesis is due next Thursday, and I haven't written most of it yet; how much time to learn would that take?
 
@Canageek I wrote a TUGboat about it: tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-1/tb97wright-pgfplots.pdf
@Canageek That is a bit tight, though!
What do you want to plot?
 
@JosephWright Protein binding curves and a few Scatchard plots
 
@Canageek So just scatter or line plots: not too hard
Even then, if you have stuff to write then perhaps now is not the time!
 
9:30 PM
@GonzaloMedina :)
 
@JosephWright Yeah, just X,Y data with a line on it, I can write the equation of the line somewhere else if I have to.
@JosephWright I've got more then a week left on it; I'm still running a couple final experiments!
 
@Canageek Send me some example data (joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk) with a clue as to what it should look like, and I'll knock something up
 
@JosephWright Actually it looks almost exactly the same as what you have in a couple of your examples.
 
@Canageek Well in that case you have a model to start from :-)
 
@JosephWright The only thing I don't see is how to add error bars
 
9:36 PM
@Canageek Take a look at the pgfplots manual: they are in there
 
@JosephWright Why does the coordinates terminate with ;? What is this, C?
 
@PauloCereda Ahh the first time @FrankMittelbach has ever quoted one of my documents:-)
 
Ah, I see now
 
@Canageek TikZ :-) Each drawing statement has to end in ; as that is how TikZ parses things.
 
@JosephWright Ok, this doesn't seem too hard so far.
 
9:48 PM
hi
 
@GreyGeek Salutations
@JosephWright The y-axis units are on top of the numbers, suggestions? I can post my code if you can help.
@JosephWright How on earth did you export NMR data to this?
Ahahaha! copies code from the pgf manual
 
10:08 PM
@DavidCarlisle Yay! Royalties? :P
 
@PauloCereda Nice interview.
 
@egreg Indeed! :) But we miss you. :)
I forgot to ask @Gonzalo about sombreros. :P
 
@PauloCereda I've already said that I had something too important. A very intense experience: Bach's Passions are not only music masterpieces, one can feel his great faith during the whole performance.
 
@egreg Awesome! How long is the performance?
 
The review for my latest journal paper came back. One reviewer noted that the bibliography is "not IEEE style". But I'm using IEEEtran!
 
10:19 PM
@PauloCereda One hour and a half, with a small intermission. There was a great Evangelist and the orchestra was superb.
 
@egreg Cool! :)
 
I can wrap a tikzpicture in a figure, right?
 
Confession time, I'll be back in an hour or so. :)
(Should I tell the priest I said bad things about Word?)
 
@PauloCereda He will tell you that it's a sin using it. :)
 
@Canageek Sure you can.
You mean place a tikzpicture into a figure environment, don't you?
 
10:22 PM
@Canageek You can wrap almost anything in a figure environment.
 
Wraps @egreg in a figure environment, watches him float down the page
 
@Canageek No, I get a page of floats all for myself. :)
 
10:50 PM
@egreg I'm back. :)
 
@PauloCereda What about the-program-I-don't-mention-the-name-of?
 
Is somebody else having troubles with the "Add Comment" button in the main site?
Nevermind. Now it's working as expected.
 
@egreg I mentioned it. :P The priest smiled and said that he didn't know how to use it properly. :)
 
11:06 PM
Refreines from making snarky religious comments as he likes you guys
 
@Canageek awww <3
 
Good night guys!
 
@egreg Good night! :)
 
11:23 PM
dances
I just finished my first graph in pgfplots
Now I can just copy that same graph for all my other data, just changing the axis changes and data.
 
@Canageek Congrats! :)
I need to learn pgfplots.
 
@PauloCereda It isn't that hard: pastebin.com/TUWh02xz Just ignore the massive amounts of whitespace in my data, pdfplots does ---I was pasting from Excel you see, so it adds a tab between each symbol.
 
11:39 PM
@Canageek Cool!
 
11:51 PM
Dear channel: WTF. Why does $y=mx+b$ work fine inside \caption{} but \(y=mx+b\) does not?
 

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