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12:03 AM
@GonzaloMedina Oh, I think I missed the "profession" in your earlier comment. Good thing I am not a mathematician. :-)
@PeterGrill what's 1+1 ?
@DavidCarlisle I think it depends?
Ok you're a mathematician then
Oh, wait, I meant 2. Don't want to be classified as a mathematican
@DavidCarlisle String concatenation? Yay I win! :)
12:06 AM
@PauloCereda :-)
@PauloCereda actually I was thinking of F_2 (with answer 0)
@DavidCarlisle Oh yeah, I think we had this discussion before sometime ago..
@DavidCarlisle Oh! :)
@PauloCereda but just goes to show more or less any answer @PeterGrill gave would have had him classed as a mathematician.
@DavidCarlisle Indeed
1+1 = 10
12:09 AM
@PauloCereda naturally, in this age of binary machines
@DavidCarlisle Or 1+1 = +- in balanced ternary. :)
@PauloCereda Thanks a lot!! All I need is another excuse to procrastinate... :-)
@PeterGrill LOL
12:28 AM
@PeterGrill No excuses are allowed. No procrastination is allowed.
@JasperLoy What????, and I thought people liked it when I procrastinated from my real work and posted on this site!!So sad :-(
@PeterGrill I would see SE as a place to come to when one has no important work to do. =)
@JasperLoy Yeah, that is how it should be.
I am thinking of writing a blog entry "10 ways you know you are addicted to TeX.SE"...
12:41 AM
@PeterGrill Please, do it! :)
@PauloCereda Ok, but will wait to see how the interview goes if you are still interested. Hope you did not miss the smiley when I said that Oct 15 was still 11.75 months away.
But if you found someone more interesting I have no problem postponing it. :-)
@PeterGrill I'm looking forward to your interview :)
2 hours later…
@Qrrbrbirlbel Can't you do it?
@JasperLoy Well, I would if I'd know which distribution it is. And maybe the OP uses an older version of MacOS. I don't know anything about Mac …
@JasperLoy Oh well, let's hope they're correct. :)
2:58 AM
@JosephWright: Please merge the accounts tex.stackexchange.com/users/21230/kayla, and tex.stackexchange.com/users/21206/kayla. This is the same user as per the comments in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/78729/….
4 hours later…
7:19 AM
Q: Emacs Evil search and replace function

Gunnar MagnussonI'm sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this question, but I couldn't think of anything better. Emacs has a Vim emulator mode called Evil. This mode has a search-replace function that does basically the same thing as highlighting a region and running sed on it. The brilliant thing about t...

OT: Send to Super User?
8:10 AM
The OP agreed, so I've deleted it
@egreg Would you like to post the source code for your flyer somewhere? I found a number of features interesting!
@Brent.Longborough It's not my oeuvre, sorry.
8:32 AM
@egreg Oh, sorry, I naturally assumed...
@Brent.Longborough You should ping @agodemar
@egreg Right! Thanks
@agodemar : I liked the look of your flyer for 'LaTeX e la composizione tipografica', and especially one or two features like the diagonal 'Seminario' stripe. Is the source available?
8:59 AM
@Brent.Longborough I'm not sure @ works in chat for someone who hasn't been here recently (unless you are a duck with super powers)
9:24 AM
@DavidCarlisle Hrnrn. Thanks, David, one day I'll understand the runes... :)
But I will never be a duck!
2 hours later…
10:59 AM
Oh no, c.t.t is down for me via Eternal September. :(
11:09 AM
Out of curiosity, is there a way to input accented letters directly in plain TeX? :)
11:24 AM
@PauloCereda No, you have to define the infrastructure yourself.
@egreg Thanks. :)
@PauloCereda I have some files somewhere for using UTF-8 with Plain TeX. Maybe I'll give them a revamp some day.
@egreg Really? It seems very interesting, specially for languages like ours. :)
@PauloCereda Of course there was support for T1-encoded fonts and also for TS1.
@egreg :)
11:31 AM
@PauloCereda For multiple languages there is the famous hyplain
@egreg Cool! :)
@PauloCereda The story of the package is peculiar
@egreg Please, do tell us! :)
@PauloCereda A user in the GuIT forum asked how to dump a Plain based format with some macros added for support of multiple languages. The method he knew worked only for OzTeX (TeX for Mac OS up to 9) and with gwTeX or TeX Live he didn't know how to do. We asked for more and he presented the macros, which I recognized to have written while I was staying in Catania (1993, I believe). So I took and reworked them and hyplain was born. I've never been able to make babel work under Plain.
@egreg Oh my! :) Your own code? :)
11:47 AM
@PauloCereda At the time I was making the transition from AMS-TeX to LaTeX; I wrote those for a colleague.
@egreg Cool! :)
You know, you could write a blog post about it. :)
@PauloCereda The user base is quite limited, I'm afraid.
@egreg I see, but the story itself is very interesting. :)
user image
@egreg: I'm terrible at writing talks. ^^ :)
Caption: "Is that it?!"
12:19 PM
@PauloCereda as @egreg says not really but the most plain like way (short of loading xmltex into plain and getting full utf-8 parser-) is just to assume the input and output encodings are the same and just use the characters directly, so load a T1 (ie, almost latin1) or LY1 font with \font primitive and just use the characters directly (no active characters or anything) then things will just work for characters where the font and input encodings match, and just silently do the wrong thing otherwise
@DavidCarlisle T1 is not almost Latin-1, unfortunately (try straße) and many fonts aren't available in LY1 encoding. My macros work in a similar way as inputenc, but exploit e-TeX's \protected for write operations, which avoids \IeC.
@DavidCarlisle Hm interesting.
It doesn't work for me. :) I get gibberish, yay! :D
@egreg "T1 is not almost" yes I know:-) but it works for e-acute, that should be enough accents for anyone. (\protected ? far too modern for me:-)
@DavidCarlisle Tell our German friends that unfortunately ß is not supported. ;-)
@egreg well I suppose another way of saying it is that the 8-bit world view of tex3 probably wouldn't have input and output encodings via active characters but wouldn't have had T1 but an encoding closer to actual fonts (which of course was Y&Y had their own encoding (which I latex-ized as LY1) as they didn't support virtual fonts to re-encode at that level)
@PauloCereda look at that: an answer of mine with real French in it.
12:35 PM
@DavidCarlisle LOL
@DavidCarlisle One should provide fonts in all used input encodings. Would you try? :)
@DavidCarlisle Your sister will be proud of you!
@egreg No that's why we made inputenc (but it was a bit controversial at the time) some people would have rather the input encoding was filtered on input tcx layer and then have the characters go straight through in tex (not least so you could make them catcode 11 and use them in command names)
@egreg one day:-)
@DavidCarlisle TCX is not the answer, although it had its merits: Unicode makes it useless. encTeX was quite nice, instead.
@egreg not disagreeing, just recalling old "discussions" :-)
@DavidCarlisle Sorry, I must go: lecture at the other side of the town. :(
12:43 PM
@egreg mabe I'll get a chance to get off 0 then
@egreg Must you take transport or walk there? =)
I remember I had to take an internal bus shuttle service in between lectures as a student.
1:26 PM
Is there a way to insert the "--" ligature other than by typing --
@Gnintendo What's wrong with typing --? Isn't it short and sweet?
It isn't working :s
It must work!
(in the address section of a letter)
- for hyphen, -- for en-dash and --- for em-dash!
1:29 PM
I'll draw up a MWE later
Are you using the letter class?
Ah, I know nothing about the letter class! Not many people use it.
I can see why.
oh, I'll just type a – in
@Gnintendo \textendash, for that matter.
2:24 PM
@JasperLoy it's not a feature of the class, it's a feature of the font (it's implemented in TeX as a ligature same as ff going to an ff ligature) all classic tex fonts have it but if you are using xetex/luatex to pull in some system fonts they probably don't have it in the font (but I thought fontspec had a way to re-instate those ligatures for TeX use?
oh as @PauloCereda said :-)
@admins Should we keep this question open? I've modified the image and removed the link but if it was my CV I would still be very angry...
Q: Create a CV according to an example

EagleI would like to create a CV in a similar style to this Moderncv is a start in the right direction. I would like to know if i can change in moderncv the position of the \section to the left side? and adding a page number? Regards

@JosephWright anyways I've flagged it.
@percusse Had seen that
@JasperLoy: hi
@percusse Wasn't the original just a link to a PDF?
2:44 PM
@JosephWright Yes but still it's not enough to publish elsewhere.
unless it's his/her own
@percusse My point was the OP did not copy the image, they linked. Inserting a modified copy into the question itself is different.
@JosephWright So this is a choice between linking to the original without consent and modifying the original so that the data is (almost) anonymous?
I think both is not nice.
Why oh why Eternal September + c.t.t don't work? :(
again unless the original owner is involved.
1 hour later…
4:03 PM
@JasperLoy Lecture finished, I'm on the train back home. We don't have a campus, but the university is split in various parts of the city. And there's no internal service: half an hour with the bus. :(
@Gnintendo If you are using XeLaTeX, say \setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX,...]{fontname}. Then -- for – will work.
4:14 PM
\begin{split}DividendYield &=& \frac{DVT(t)}{CurrentMarketCap} \\
Avg_Assets &=& \biggl( A/B \biggr) \textrm { when B is not zero...}\end{split}\notag\\\begin{split}\end{split}\notag
This is the part we need to decypher from the Sphinx question. :)
Any help? :)
Good evening!
@unNaturhal Ciao! :)
@PauloCereda Ciao :)
@unNaturhal And that's all the Italian I know. :)
@PauloCereda Do you want to learn? :P
4:30 PM
shocking comment from an OP: I don't think this is a "feature".
@unNaturhal Yes, please! :)
Ok, step 1: Presentation:
*Hi, my name is Paulo. Nice to meet you!* = *Ciao, mi chiamo Paulo. Piacere di conoscerti!*
Umh? Italic doesn't work?
@unNaturhal oooh neat! :)
@unNaturhal Try *my sentence here*. :)
@unNaturhal it does
@egreg, I'm learning Italics... I mean, Italian. :)
4:39 PM
Mah o.o italic do not want collaborate xD
Q: Why doesn't Batman make an armored suit like Ironman?

osdamvI understand he doesn't kill, but when he goes with Justice League, he could make some kind of armor to fight v.s. the strongest enemies. He has the money and the engineers plus access to alien tech.. It's "badass" to fight enemies with photon cannons just with kevlar... or just stupid.

@percusse: I'm gonna add the following answer: "'Cause he's Batman! nananananana". :P
@PauloCereda Works fine if I replace &=& by &= and _ by \_. I did \usepackage{amsmath} since the sphinx documentation says to look at AMS-LaTeX for more information. What does Sphinx do with its maths, does it parse it or pass it??
@AndrewStacey I'm pretty sure it passes to the underlying export format.
@AndrewStacey I tested here without the second & and with \_ and it works like a charm. :)
I mean, from Sphinx. :)
4:55 PM
@JosephWright Readability feature request: can you rename the tag to ? Or does this exceed the permitted character number for tag names?
@egreg: Juve today! :)
@lockstep Sounds OK to me, but I'd have to check the char limit
@percusse My point was that you can link to anything public on the internet: see the battles between news companies and Google as searching allows you to bypass the 'official' entry point
@PauloCereda searching for the obvious keywords to understand that comment, the only thing that came up was this
@DavidCarlisle LOL
@JosephWright Seems to be 25, so (21) should work.
5:05 PM
@lockstep Done
@JosephWright Thanks -- looks much better indeed.
@PauloCereda I'm at home, ready for the match. :)
5:24 PM
@egreg Yay! :)
6:02 PM
@PauloCereda Here are ducks. tex.stackexchange.com/a/78812/4427
@egreg Oh my! More ducks! :)
6:24 PM
@PauloCereda Re Sphinx: you're on your own with that one.
@AndrewStacey I don't know what to do. There's nothing wrong either Sphinx or LaTeX. It's a bad user input. :(
7:19 PM
'Lo! :-)
@NicolaTalbot Hello
@JosephWright How's the boiler?
@NicolaTalbot There was a mess-up. Engineer did not come, as they had Thursday down!
@JosephWright Oh no! You didn't have to wait in all day, did you?
@NicolaTalbot No, just the morning, and I was doing some work. I can't even do Thursday, so have re-booked for Friday.
7:22 PM
@JosephWright I hope they fix it before the cold snap forecast for this weekend.
7:35 PM
Oh no, more rain now!!! :(
@PauloCereda :-(
@NicolaTalbot I like it, but we had rain all day today. :)
@PauloCereda I like it best when I'm inside and don't have to go out :-)
@NicolaTalbot ooh my mum gets angry when I go out in the rain without an umbrella. :) But I only do that on summer or spring. :)
@Paulo I love you :D
7:40 PM
@PauloCereda :-) I have a favourite hat. Far more manageable than an umbrella.
@tohecz <3
@NicolaTalbot Cool! :)
I wonder if @GonzaloMedina can send us a nice sombrero. :)
@PauloCereda It's an Australian hat. Never go anywhere without it. I'll have to find a photo of it.
@NicolaTalbot I can confirm said hat is very cool
I've seen it :-)
@JosephWright :-)
@NicolaTalbot ooh Australian hats are nice!
@JosephWright What about your hat? :P
7:45 PM
@PauloCereda I have a couple, a summer one and a winter one
@NicolaTalbot Is it one of those hats with corks hanging from the brim? :)
@Brent.Longborough No, but every time someone mistakes it for a cowboy hat, I vow to put some on for emphasis.
I used to have an Australian hat. I once published a paper which required a short bio and a photo; the chair searched my name and put the photo I was with the hat! Let me find the article. :P
@PauloCereda It's definitely time for a hat parade!
@NicolaTalbot Oh, yes!
7:49 PM
damn, unstable internet :(
@Brent.Longborough Oh cool!
@NicolaTalbot I think it's a roll-your-own...
Don't think it would go down all that well here in Wales. Sou'wester's a bit nearer the mark.
user image
It's a bit cropped
@NicolaTalbot Epic hat! :)
@NicolaTalbot ¡Ausgezeichnet!
7:54 PM
@Brent.Longborough Saúde. :)
@PauloCereda No, that's Gesundheit
@Brent.Longborough :P
I'm on a quest to bring hats back into fashion.
@Brent.Longborough To be correct, it is spelled “Gesundheit” (familiar with sound, healthy, …) :)
@PauloCereda Pay attention: not to be confused with, nor misspelt as, GesundHat.
7:56 PM
@Brent.Longborough ba dum tss :P
@Qrrbrbirlbel What, with a z, me? :P
@PauloCereda Xô, perereca!
@Brent.Longborough Schummler :P
@Brent.Longborough LOL
My husband has a tilley hat. Apparently they can survive being eat and passed through the digestive tract of an elephant.
7:58 PM
Hat being eaten by elephant story: brandsonly.com/testimonials.html
Half of my hat, sadly.
Typical Crocodile Dundee hat. :)
@PauloCereda It's a very nice half a hat :-)
@NicolaTalbot Someday I'll get my full hat. :P
@PauloCereda :-)
@Qrrbrbirlbel :)
8:03 PM
We now need @JosephWright's hats!
I don't wear this one so often!
@NicolaTalbot :)
Does this count as a hat?
@PauloCereda OK
Summer hat
@JosephWright Oh, I like that!
8:10 PM
@JosephWright OMG! Epic hat! :D
@NicolaTalbot From an outdoor shop
Winter hat:
@JosephWright Sherlock Holmes! :D
@JosephWright That one's great as well :-)
@PauloCereda Dr Watson, surely!
@NicolaTalbot Hard to say: Holmes's hat is never mentioned in the books
@JosephWright This is true, but Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke were surely the definitive Holmes and Watson!
8:16 PM
@NicolaTalbot I guess I go for Rathbone
@JosephWright I was gonna say that!
Oh no, it's two against one!
Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce! :)
@NicolaTalbot I'll then switch to Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law, so we have 1:1:1. :)
@PauloCereda I have to admit, they were quite amusing :-)
@NicolaTalbot Indeed. I loved when Stephen Fry made a cameo in the last movie as Mycroft. :)
8:20 PM
@PauloCereda He looked like he was enjoying the part!
@NicolaTalbot Indeed. :)
- Excuse me ma'am, I'm the other Holmes.
- Oh no, there's another one!
Love that part!
@PauloCereda Was that after Holmes shoved Watson's wife off the bridge?
@NicolaTalbot Yes! :)
@PauloCereda :-)
I've made the characters in my book wear hats -- fedoras mostly. Bring back fedoras!
8:42 PM
crickey you leave for an hour or two and the place is taken over by hats.
@DavidCarlisle :-) Have you got any?
@NicolaTalbot very rarely, just searching now...
here's a David Carlisle in a hat
@DavidCarlisle That looks great :-)
@NicolaTalbot no idea who it is though:-)
@DavidCarlisle Oh, it's that famous bloke - what's his name? :-)
8:54 PM
@DavidCarlisle I have one as well:
@tohecz What type's that? It looks a bit like a Baden-Powell one.
9:09 PM
Look at all these hats :O
This is getting to be quite a good hat line-up :-)
@NicolaTalbot gotcha!
It's a boyscout hat, and I'm a scoutmaster :)
@tohecz dyb, dyb :-)
hey, I would like to edit one (importent) char in an answer, any way?
9:23 PM
@NicolaTalbot what?
In tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3306/… \CLassWarning was spelled wrong. (\ClassWarning would be right)
"do your best" - scout motto
(Maybe its a regional thing.)
@someonr done
@someonr seems that someone has already corrected it ...
great thx!
9:28 PM
@tohecz yes me, see the line up from your comment:-)
@someonr I think you need 2k to edit other people's answers so you're nearly there:-)
@tohecz Seems like I'm behind the times. Found a site that says "dyb dyb dyb" isn't used any more.
Next thing I know, someone will tell me no one says "gramaphone" any more.
@David Carlisle I know I can't edit them directly, but normally I could request an edit. but i can't request a 1 sign edit for some reason.
@NicolaTalbot I think it was 1966 they (cubs) dropped that:-)
@DavidCarlisle Wow, I am behind the times. So it was a cub rather than scout thing?
9:45 PM
Cubs are scouts! Just a bit smaller ... ;)
yes but they dropped it around the time wolf cubs became cub scouts and boy scouts became scouts (ie before I joined, which is a long time ago:-)
(and my computer and my ISP are completely funny today)
don't you know why there's always a CR-char in the chat input box after I send a message?
I've just cleaned all my cookies, and I hope it will help
@tohecz I just had a weird image of someone washing a sink full of biscuits.
@NicolaTalbot ROTFLMAO
wanna cookie? I have some cheep French ones and some good Scottish ones ;)
btw, I'm sure I know your name, so tell me where do I know you from? (btw, an NP problem I think :D )
@tohecz Possibly glossaries or datatool.
@tohecz Definitely the Scottish ones.
9:58 PM
@NicolaTalbot and LaTeX-unrelated, because I don't think it comes from LaTeX
@tohecz Oh, intriguing!
btw, the Ads on pages are clever enough to know that I'm in France, but they're not clever enough to know that I don't understand French :p
I'd like it noted for the records that I've had a hat on all the time I've been using TeX-SX.
@AndrewStacey have you considered writing a package with the improved version of \tikzmark?
10:16 PM
@AndrewStacey Is hat the new duck?
10:37 PM
@GonzaloMedina Wasn't sure it would make a package by itself. Do you think it should? Got to have a better name than tikzmark though.
@Qthmstnharymryn or whatever your name is (dratted ipad won't let me reply), no, duck is old hat. Hat is the new chapeau.
@AndrewStacey Yes, I think that the version from tex.stackexchange.com/q/50015/3954 deserves its own package; it's really helpful. I like the name tikzmark.
@AndrewStacey you mean a package should have more extensive code content like indentfirst ?
@DavidCarlisle Hehe!
11:22 PM
@Qrrbrbirlbel Not quite. Coming next, ducks on hats. :)
@GonzaloMedina okey-dokey. I'll package it up. Should I include any uses with it, or should it just be the tikzmark.
11:51 PM
@AndrewStacey Ah, thank you very much! I think it would be great if you include some examples in the documentation.
how can I find an overfull vbox? It only happens with LuaLaTex/XeLaTex and not with PDFLaTex

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