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1:32 AM
hi all
 
1:43 AM
@GonzaloMedina good idea, will mention that in my answer :)
@GonzaloMedina thanks a lot, done
 
3:08 AM
I'm separating the author of something and the title with a hyphen in a Table of Contents: should I be doing this with "-", "--", or "---"?
 
3:52 AM
@Gnintendo What about a colon? Otherwise I would use --.
 
hm
I'm using EB Garamond in a letter class and it's not combining the "--" into one character
Anybody know why?
\defaultfontfeatures{Ligatures=TeX} fixed it in the article class, but it doesn'ts eem to be working in my letter
 
 
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5:36 AM
@PauloCereda: Excellent presentation.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:49 AM
Please undo down vote at: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/78629/…. This is a new user.
 
@PeterGrill done, indepentently on your demand here ;)
and I as well added a comment there
 
@tohecz Sorry did not intend to be demanding... :-)
 
@PeterGrill Nah, it is good to point these things out in chat
 
@tohecz Yeah but I should be careful. I accidentally pissed off a user in my comments and did not know how to respond without possibly making it worse...
 
@PeterGrill where?
 
7:00 AM
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A: Alignment in multiple locations of a single equation based on first line

Peter GrillTo use the alignat environment, you need to keep in mind that alignat yields pairs of r/l aligned equations, so you need to use a double && to skip past the right aligned column so that you are aligning things on the left: Furthermore, if you want to also align the + sign you can use a...

 
@PeterGrill I'd say take it easy.
 
@tohecz Yeah but any response like that might piss the OP off even more, so decided against it.
 
@PeterGrill if you want, I can piss him off even more ;) (but don't say it to @Joseph ...)
 
@tohecz No, I don't want to do that. :-)
 
Second UK-TUG video (@DavidCarlisle) uploaded: vimeo.com/51876700
Hmm, may have to redo this as the volume seems a bit low
 
7:20 AM
@JosephWright Seems not too bad, once you get past the beginning. But it is a bit late for me right now, so will wait until tomorrow to watch it.
But better audio would be good, if it is possible, especially given the language differences. :-)
 
@PeterGrill Won't take long to redo
I'll wait until the new upload is sorted before deleting!
 
'Lo :-)
 
Hello @NicolaTalbot
 
Just investigating. Didn't really have anything to say!
 
@PeterGrill Re-uploading now :-) (Needs ~1 hour for Vimeo to convert)
 
7:31 AM
@JosephWright Thanks. Will watch it tomorrow.
 
@NicolaTalbot You won't have to miss out on UK-TUG's meeting this year, at list virtually. I'm currently converting the recordings I made to Vimeo videos!
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@JosephWright that's great. I'll have a look at them.
 
7:49 AM
@JosephWright I'd better get back to editing my book. I need to gem up on lasers for verisimilitude! Good luck with your boiler.
 
@NicolaTalbot Thanks :-)
 
8:14 AM
@NicolaTalbot Hi Nicola! Nice to see you here!
 
8:33 AM
@PeterGrill Sent an answer for your inline lists; slightly shorter than Heiko's. :)
 
user19161
@ガベージコレクタ Hi! I am always flying in and out of chat.
 
@JosephWright speaking of which, this can be closed as duplicate tex.stackexchange.com/questions/78633/…
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's see what the OP says
 
@PeterGrill I don't think Joseph's mic picked up the discussion about the fact that I was stuck in a basement in Trinity at the meeting with no internet which was allowing you far too much freedom to get ahead
 
@DavidCarlisle Possibly not, but the new upload of your talk will at least have louder sound!
 
8:47 AM
@JosephWright Actually I was looking for a different duplicate (I have given that excuse somewhere on site before) but that one came at first and seems as good as any:-)
@JosephWright all the better to hear chinking of coffee cups:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm already picking up lessons for next year. Lesson 1: buy a mic. Lesson 2: Buy a video splitter.
 
user19161
I usually hear teapot and teacup. Do they have coffeepot and coffeecup?
 
@JosephWright I was half wondering to offer to re-record an audio track in a cleaner sound environment (but you lose the questions/interruptions that way)
 
@DavidCarlisle They are meant to be 'live' recordings. I do wonder about our training course, though, as a 'studio' approach would be better there.
 
user19161
@JosephWright Video splitter? Isn't there free software to split videos?
 
8:50 AM
@JasperLoy yes except they are all two words (except for teapot which is one:-)
 
@JasperLoy I mean hardware so I can grab the projector image, which would be handy for 'live demos' (I can rerecord slides with only a few mess-ups!)
 
@DavidCarlisle Hi. I didn't see that post. Will delete my answer but will retain my comment in the question.
 
@hpesoj626 no need to delete I think
 
Do we know how long the final run for the TeXbook by DEK took in 1986?
And on what hardware?
 
@DavidCarlisle Reconsidered :) I was about to look at your talk. Looking at it now.
 
8:58 AM
@hpesoj626 Version with (hopefully) better sound vimeo.com/51900661 just converting now
 
@JosephWright thanks! will look at it later then.
 
@JosephWright: it seems you've already mastered iMovie. :)
 
@PauloCereda Sound enhanced in Audacity
 
user19161
@PauloCereda Is that the video editor in the iMac?
 
@JosephWright aaah! :)
@JasperLoy Yes. :)
 
9:00 AM
My talk is also uploaded (vimeo.com/51902277): I'll post to the UK-TUG blog once they are all available
 
@MartinSchröder babrbara might know. When I was trying it as a test on sun 3s circa 87 it took several minutes as I recall.
speaking of blogs and the uktig meeting. In discussion at the end we were discussing accessible math and I showed a couple of people a long division generator and it being spoken by mathplayer, that evening I fixed a few bigs and posted it to dpcarlisle.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/mathml-long-division.html
 
@DavidCarlisle I've asked bnb. Maybe in one of the next TUGboats. :-)
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Q: question mark replaces citations in pdf

Keithhow to replace [?] with the actual numerical citation. I'm trying to create a bilbiography in Winshell from a database (.bib file). Within the bib file, I click on pdflatex, then bibtek, then pdflatex twice, and then pdf. My pdf shows [?] for numerical citations and no complete bibliography. Pl...

 
@MartinSchröder It's not that bad at least he knew he needed bibtex and multiple runs, usually people asking about ? have only run latex once.
 
@DavidCarlisle's video with better sound is now available (vimeo.com/51900661). I've removed the first attempt: it had had 5 views, but I think it's best to keep things a bit clearer :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah yes. Duplicate of tex.stackexchange.com/q/63852/5763 :-)
 
9:17 AM
@JosephWright Very nice! :)
@AndrewStacey: gotta love your tweet. :)
 
9:28 AM
@JasperLoy hi, i am in singapore now.
 
9:53 AM
Now we need to lure Heiko to join our chatroom. :)
 
My talk is now available on Vimeo: vimeo.com/51902277
 
@JosephWright Yay! :)
 
@PauloCereda Thought you would.
@DavidCarlisle Also following on from UK-TUG, I meant to do this but forgot. I have a mathematical (MathML) webpage that I converted to epub a while back and loaded in to iBook. It looked horrible then, I recall, but when I looked at it this morning (there have been a few updates in the meantime) then it wasn't too bad. No where near perfect, but not too far off usable.
 
@AndrewStacey did you do an OS X update in between (there was a version of OS X that shipped with broken stix font support)
 
@DavidCarlisle No OS X's were involved in the process, so far as I remember. iBooks is running on my iPad and I did the conversion from webpage to epub using calibre on my linux machine.
 
10:09 AM
@AndrewStacey sorry I do really know that ipads's don't run os x (at least I know that when I'm awake:-)
@AndrewStacey so does calibre have epub3 support now or is it epub2 with mathml just included and not filtered out even though it wasn't strictly valid in epub2?
 
@DavidCarlisle Ack, I did the conversion a while ago soon after epub3 came out so I don't remember all the details. I do remember that calibre was the only one of a few that gave me anything even close.
 
I may see if I can borrow an ipad/phone here and try the nag manual again.
 
Friends, do we have in meta anything along the lines of accepting anonymous edits? I stumbled upon an anonymous edit yesterday which was actually very good, but I went for "Not sure". I think we should only consider edits made by registered people here. Thoughts?
 
10:35 AM
@egreg Hi, thanks!
 
Yay, @Nicola is here in the chatroom! Welcome! :)
 
@PauloCereda Thanks for the welcome. I'm afraid I'm not very good with this chatting business. My chat tends to run along the lines of, "the weather's lousy. I think I'm going to have to light the fire." But anyway, thought I'd try to be sociable :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot Beats @DavidCarlisle moaning about the cricket.
 
@NicolaTalbot That's OK, the thing is to try to insert a cricket reference in as often as possible, as @PauloCereda likes to keep up with the latest scores.
@AndrewStacey ah our messages crossed....
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
"How to typeset a cricket scoreboard using longtable"
 
10:46 AM
@PauloCereda I wrote a cricket score sheet class file years ago (How do I put links in this thing?) theoval.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~nlct/latex/packages/#crkscrsh
 
@NicolaTalbot OMG! Fantastic! :)
@DavidCarlisle: we also need a longtable example. :)
Maybe for next year's meeting. :P
We talk about lots of things here, soccer, travel, food, music, bugs undocumented features in longtable, ducks, emacs, torus, engineers, linguistics, cheese, Monty Python... sometimes we also talk about TeX. :P
 
@PauloCereda speaking of Monty Python, Michael Palin is just about to start a new series telling us all about Brazil, not sure if you'll be able to access iplayer from there (or at least admit to doing so:-)
 
@JosephWright A new user keeps asking new questions about essentially the same topic instead of editing the original question. Here's the latetest one. Please check and, if possible, close all but one questions.
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Q: how to make in text citations and a bibliography

KeithTEX Document: \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{report} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{cite} \pagestyle{headings} \newcommand{\HRule}{\rule{\linewidth}{0.5mm}} \begin{document} \input{./title.tex} \section{Introduction} \label{sec:intro} \subsection \subsubsection Text with \cite{hatcher2008...

 
@PauloCereda ducks? As in what I'm mostly likely to get playing cricket? (I've always preferred bowling to batting as the ball's going away from me. I've never liked the idea of a hard object heading towards me at high speeds.)
 
@lockstep Yes, I agree. Which to keep?
 
@JosephWright The third one has been closed right now, so perhaps kkep the first one:
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Q: LaTeX Warning: Citation 'author2012' on page 1 undefined on input line 15

KeithHow do you correct an undefined citation? I've clicked the BibTex option several times to let Latex automatically recognize the new references, but this isn't working. \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{report} \usepackage{natbib} \begin{document} \section{Introduction} \label{sec:intro} \subsect...

@JosephWright Better, keep the latest one:
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Q: how to make in text citations and a bibliography

KeithTEX Document: \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{report} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{cite} \pagestyle{headings} \newcommand{\HRule}{\rule{\linewidth}{0.5mm}} \begin{document} \input{./title.tex} \section{Introduction} \label{sec:intro} \subsection \subsubsection Text with \cite{hatcher2008...

 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@keith Please pop into the chat room to discuss your issue. Your questions are all essentially the same, and have the same answer (you need to run BibTeX at the appropriate point).
 
@NicolaTalbot I have a hard time trying to understand cricket. :) @Joseph and @David tried to explain the rules, but it's still difficult for me to grasp the concepts. The only "variation" I think I almost understood was backyard cricket, which I got hit by the ball when I was a kid (and broke some windows too). :) And I posted some duck-related answers here, so these guys here always make fun of me. :P
 
@PauloCereda ... in a footnote... LOL
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11:05 AM
@Brent.Longborough LMAO
 
@PauloCereda David's excuse was that he "didn't know anyone would need a multipage table in a footnote". Snort.
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@PauloCereda When I was a kid, our summer holidays were basically us accompanying my dad on a week-long cricket tour. If it was sunny, dad played cricket and mum took us kids to the beach. If it was rainy, the cricketers would head for the pub. It often seemed to rain!
 
MATLAB goes into a bar. The bartender starts to cry... the end.
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@DavidCarlisle Very nice series! :) That's Brazil alright. And what Michael said in the end about people being so friendly and receptive is one of characteristics of Brazil that is so fantastic. The majority of people here doesn't know English at all (let alone our own language which is difficult), but they find a way to communicate with foreigners. :)
@percusse LOL
@NicolaTalbot Oh! :)
@percusse It reminds me of this joke:
- Knock knock.
- Who's there?
(very long pause)
- Java.
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@PauloCereda Hahah...
But you also have
 
11:26 AM
I'd better get back to editing my book. I'm currently on 116,983 words. I reckon it'll be finished in, oh, a year --- maybe. Nice chatting with you!
 
11:50 AM
@NicolaTalbot Your book is fantastic! :) And I swear there's an arara in the cover. :)
@percusse LOL why is Java portrayed as a teenager dressed as a schoolgirl in the "Whatever, I do what I want!" fashion? :)
 
12:04 PM
@percusse I don't get it I think. I get the Java one tho :)
 
12:23 PM
@tohecz There is nothing funny about MATLAB. That's what it is.
@PauloCereda I don't get the customization = freedom nonsense anyway. So that doesn't mean anything to me either :)
 
@percusse Most of the stuff is imprecise, anyway. :) The Apple part was funny, I wish one of them said, "We are playing with .Net with Mono." :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm getting the hang of iMovie now. I've worked out how to import without needing to mess with iTunes, etc., and also think I know how to deal with slides so I don't need to play the movie though and do it by hand :-)
 
@JosephWright Wow! :) You need to teach me. :) iMovie is very nice, the transitions, the effects, they are very easy to use. :)
 
@PauloCereda It turns out you can drop stuff straight from Finder into the project, so no need to search iTunes
@PauloCereda On the slides, if you drop in a .png it will have a length of 4s, but you can up to as much as 10 min. You can also mark positions in the audio before adding video. So I'm going to go with that method for the future videos, as I'll have much better control of slide transitions.
I'm doing Simon Dales's talk, and there are no slides, so I need a still image for the entire length
 
12:39 PM
aaah interesting. :)
I'm still not used with the drag-and-drop philosophy. :)
 
12:51 PM
Hello
I'm writing a letter, but when I load the EB Garamond font with fontspec, the "--" range in the zip code of who I'm sending to stops being combined into one character like it should be. Do any of you know why/have any suggestions?
 
Have you included the Ligatures = Tex option?
 
Yes
That fixed my problem when I had the same problem in another document I'm writing, but it doesn't change anything in this letter.
It's worth noting that the -- is properly formed if written in the body of the letter: it's just the address of the recipient where it is wrong.
It's the -- in the zip code that won't fix: \begin{letter}{[redacted] \\ Department of Zoology \\ Oklahoma State University \\ Stillwater, OK 74078--­3052}
 
let me try
 
All right
For whatever reason the Ligatures=TeX doesn't seem to be applying to that address
I'm using the letter class
 
@PauloCereda Using beat markers to line up slides is a lot easier than doing it using QuickTime!
 
1:07 PM
@JosephWright Ah! :)
 
@Gnintendo if you use {--} it works :)
 
Do you know why it's not working and why that works?
 
I have no idea
 
@Silex That's not working for me; I just tried it
 
darned :(
 
1:08 PM
WRT tex.stackexchange.com/questions/78656/… I wonder if I should write a yaml2bib. :)
 
@Gnintendo ask a question with a MWE
 
yeah, I have to go to class for now
I probably will when I get back
 
@PauloCereda Means I can adjust positions and so on, so no mess ups
I think I can get all of the videos done today as a result!
 
@JosephWright Indeed. :)
WOW!
 
@PauloCereda There's only one left with slides
 
1:13 PM
@JosephWright :)
 
1:24 PM
@Gnintendo Can you prepare a minimal example?
 
@egreg Yes, as soon as I have time after class :)
 
@Gnintendo Re your answer to the "include bib or bbl" question: that method wouldn't serve the purpose, since in those cases the editors/publisher don't want to fiddle with BibTeX.
 
Yeah, I deleted it
@egreg Dupe?:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/12175/biblatex-submitting-to-a-journal/
Or is merely copying the contents of the .bbl the actual answer if he's really using bibtex?
 
@PauloCereda Thanks :-) The parrot was originally going to be a Norwich canary (the city emblem, not the football club) but the parrot looked more "bookish". A canary would've looked too frivolous!
 
@Gnintendo No, it's not a duplicate: the question you link to deals with biblatex and from the question it seems that package is not employed.
 
1:30 PM
@egreg Right, so the answer is to copy the contents of the .bbl directly into the document?
 
@Gnintendo Yes, unless biblatex has been used.
 
Hmm, let me reread
 
@NicolaTalbot The parrot was a nice choice. :) The bow tie touch was lovely. :)
 
@egreg The author tagged it biblatex
 
@PauloCereda I'm thinking of giving it a mortar board for volume 2 (Using LaTeX to Write a PhD Thesis).
 
1:37 PM
Proposal for a new W3 standard: MSS: Mathematical Style Sheet. First rule: composition: [left|right] for when a paper's been written with composition the wrong way and you want to make sense of it without turning your head inside out.
 
Hi every one
@egreg Need some help here! please.
 
@AndrewStacey what do you mean? like all results preceeding all the proofs?
 
@HarishKumar Here I am.
@HarishKumar Is it about math or TeX?
 
@egreg: This is about fonts!. Say I want to use umrandb.
How to know which number produces which font/character?
Say for example \char113 ?
 
@HarishKumar fonttable package
 
1:41 PM
@tohecz No, that just means that they wrote the article the way they did the work. I mean for when they write the composition of two functions the wrong way around. As in f g could mean "do f then g" or "do g then f".
 
@egreg: let me check. I will get back in a moment. :)
 
@HarishKumar Here's a document
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fonttable}
\usepackage[margin=1cm,a4paper]{geometry}
\begin{document}
\pagestyle{empty}
\fonttable{umranda}
\fonttable{umrandb}
\end{document}
 
@egreg: Thanks a lot. I got it now. This will go a long way for me. Can you guess what I am going to do with it? Designing borders for fancy stuff including certificates, cover pages and ...... :)
 
@egreg Is that answer OK? (I've edited it several times)
 
@egreg: One more help: :) For Zapf Dingbats the name to be used is pzdr according to the manual. Where/how I can find such coded names for other fonts? (I know only few of them :( though),
 
1:51 PM
@AndrewStacey lol, yeah. those algebraic people who white dimension of linear space L as L dim :)
 
@tohecz Those are the ones.
 
@NicolaTalbot Cool! :)
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@HarishKumar It mostly depend on the font; if a package for it is available, you can find the family name in it and the actual tfm name in the corresponding .fd files. Can you make an example?
 
@PauloCereda I love Antykwa Toruńska :)
 
1:54 PM
@egreg: So we better look into the .fd file. No other short cuts? ;)
@egreg No examples as on now :( But I wanted to learn a way for it :)
 
@HarishKumar Sorry, no: this is a very obscure corner in LaTeX as there's really no standard for "dingbat" fonts and many developers don't follow the Berry's convention.
 
@tohecz It's a great font. I wanted to illustrate that TeX didn't always mean Computer Modern, but I like it so much that I'm tempted to use it for my fiction books as well. (Not sure how well that would go down. People have become so used to Times!)
 
@egreg: Thank you. I am not worried at all! I have safe life jackets here :) If I am getting drowned, I will come here for rescue operation :) Now Number of beers (I owe you) increase by two ;)
 
Hi @HarishKumar! :) I hope I pronounced your name correctly in the UK-TUG talk. :)
 
@AndrewStacey but that would remove all the fun, also for W3C it would have to get past i18n so be [reading-direction|reverse-reading-direction] not [left|right]and you'd have to produce documents showing of group-theory texts using postfix function operators in a bottom-to-top-right-to-left reading context....
 
2:04 PM
Another upload: first of the Rasberry Pi talks vimeo.com/51914428
 
@PauloCereda: Hi. How are you doing? UK-TUG talk and my name!?!?
 
@HarishKumar Yep! :)
 
@HarishKumar Karl Berry font name scheme tug.org/fontname/fontname.pdf
 
@PauloCereda: What did I do? I didn't do anything maaa.
 
@NicolaTalbot I would say that it's "over-stylish" for long texts, but I used it for all section titles, headers, and all float captions in my thesis
As well, I use it for all headers here:
 
2:06 PM
@DavidCarlisle Checking like lightning :)
 
@NicolaTalbot You were lucky he didn't substitute his famous duck
 
@HarishKumar You are an arara friend. :)
 
@PauloCereda Of course, this now means that I'm going to have to put my magnum opus to one side and get back to updating "Using LaTeX to Write a PhD Thesis" so that I can get the mortarboard-wearing parrot onto Amazon! (I've added sections on JabRef and biblatex/biber. Now I just need to update the indexing and glossary sections.)
 
frame LOL
@NicolaTalbot Cool! :)
 
2:07 PM
@DavidCarlisle Ah, but if you change the reading direction should you change the composition direction? I guess the argument for x f is that it is in the right order for reading. Does changing reading direction also change things like \to and \mapsto?
 
@DavidCarlisle: That was cool: Thanks a ton Sir!
 
@PauloCereda yeah, I promise I will use it as my math font once for variables
 
@DavidCarlisle So you see, there's a tendency in the TeX world for bird-related projects. :)
@tohecz Yay!
 
@DavidCarlisle Now I'm confused. @Paulo, do you like araras or ducks more?
 
@PauloCereda: An Arara lover may be. It has become my default tool now. :)
 
2:08 PM
@NicolaTalbot As a publicity stunt you could get @PauloCereda to release a mortarboard-wearing parrot into the Amazon.
 
@AndrewStacey :-)
 
@AndrewStacey slight;y surprisingly mapsto has Unicode mirror property N so it doesn't change (unlie < which does) same for most of the arrows.
 
@DavidCarlisle Perhaps the duck could sit on top of the mortarboard.
 
@AndrewStacey Uh-oh, I can go to the jail! :) IBAMA (Brazilian Institute of Environment and Renewable Natural Resources) would hunt me. :P
 
@AndrewStacey The main argument for postfix functions though isn't reading so much as file entry order matches composition order (x f) g is x (f o g)
 
2:11 PM
@PauloCereda Wait a minute! UK-TUG talk? Have you been to UK? How come I didn't know?
 
@HarishKumar there's this thing called the internet...
 
@tohecz Ducks are cooler. :)
 
@PauloCereda It's all that water
 
@DavidCarlisle That means a video conferencing?
 
@HarishKumar Skype. :) If I were in UK, David and Joseph would have me to take me to a cricket game, and I wanted to go in that James Bond-like ferris wheel. :)
 
2:13 PM
@tohecz I think you might be right. I'll probably just use it in my LaTeX books to keep them in a consistent style. (Although I've also just used it in a teddy bear adoption certificate and that looked quite good.)
 
@HarishKumar That sounds posh (the reality was Joseph ran skype on his laptop)
 
Exactly! :)
 
@DavidCarlisle: LOL
 
is the book latex for complete novice free?
 
@PauloCereda: What was the talk on? Arara I guess.
 
2:15 PM
@HarishKumar ypu can see it replayed at the link above
 
@HarishKumar Yes, it's the only thing I know in the TeX world. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Link above scrolling up I think I missed it! :(
 
I even mispronounced @egreg's frontespizio. :(
 
@DavidCarlisle: Oh got it Thank you.
 
2:16 PM
@ガベージコレクタ The pdf, html and source are free. The paperback is GBP12.99.
 
@PauloCereda: Remember the stick I was talking the other day? I still have it with me ;)
 
@HarishKumar RUN FORREST RUN!
 
@NicolaTalbot where can we download it?
 
@DavidCarlisle But that's only if you write operators on the right and the argument for that is that writing x -f-> x f instead of f: x -> f(x).
 
@PauloCereda :) LOL
 
2:19 PM
@PauloCereda I wouldn't do that having seen what it ended up as in Doctor Who.
 
@ガベージコレクタ dickimaw-books.com/latex/novices The parrot image only comes with the paperback version. It's a perk ;-)
 
@AndrewStacey I'm not sure I understand (but I'd probably agree if I did)
 
@AndrewStacey Oops. :)
 
@NicolaTalbot thanks , downloading.......
 
@NicolaTalbot A peck, surely.
 
2:21 PM
Yet another video (two more still to process): vimeo.com/51916787
 
@AndrewStacey :-)
 
@ガベージコレクタ wrong answer. You are supposed to say 13 pounds in the post, keep the change....
 
@JosephWright Wow, Joseph is the iMovemeister here. :)
 
@PauloCereda Song going round my head, needs a bit of work:
"You can do such a lot with arara,
you can use every part of it too.
For work or for pleasure,
it's a triumph, it's a treasure
oh there's nothing that arara cannot do."
(A-ha, @Brent.Longborough's arrived. Between him and @DavidCarlisle I suspect *one* at least will get the reference.)
 
@AndrewStacey OMG! It will be in the first page of the shiny new 3.0 manual!!!!
 
2:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle i have very limited social expressions in english, sorry!
 
@AndrewStacey Is that Gilbert & Sullivan? Your chances are down to 50%
 
@PauloCereda Better attribute it correctly, then.
@Brent.Longborough Sadly, no. Matches them in satirical singing but a bit later in era.
 
@AndrewStacey Tom Lehrer then? (Note: anything later than Monteverdi, I' guessing)
@AndrewStacey Surely not Monty Python?
 
@Brent.Longborough I said satire. MP isn't satire, it's just silly. TL is roughly the right period but wrong nationality.
 
ipad does not behave well in chat, sometimes the text box has the newest comment below it.
 
2:27 PM
@AndrewStacey Sorry, Igivup
 
entries:

- book:
  id: texbook
  author: Donald E. Knuth
  title: The {{\TeX}book}
  publisher: Addison-Wesley
  year: 1984

- book:
  id: lamport
  author: Leslie Lamport
  title: {\LaTeX \rm:} {A} Document Preparation System
  publisher: Addison-Wesley
  year: 1986
Work in progress. :)
 
@PauloCereda :?
 
@PauloCereda Very nice. Now, don't forget the memoir manual and TLC-2 (and maybe -1)
 
@DavidCarlisle yaml2bib and vice-versa. :)
 
@Brent.Longborough Never heard of that one. No, it's nyanko.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fas/bestiary_wompom.html
 
2:29 PM
@Brent.Longborough ooh! :)
 
@AndrewStacey Oh, yes, Flanders & Swann; a bit after my time :)
 
I still have no idea what they are talking about! :)
@JosephWright: can you guys sing the Wompom song in the next UK-TUG meeting? :) We might create a viral video to promote TeX in UK. :)
 
@PauloCereda ah
 
So the Higgs Boson is a Wompom?
 
@PauloCereda Wornporn?
 
2:36 PM
@tohecz The keming is important. :)
 
@NicolaTalbot your book is very good as you provide many examples with various wrong and correct cases and further study links. thanks.
 
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Q: Geometric Progression

MarthaA manufacturer produces 1200 computers each week. After week 1, he increases production by Scheme I: 80 computers each week Scheme II: 5% each week a) i) Find the output in week 20 under each scheme ii) Find the total output over the first 20 weeks under each scheme b) Calculate the schem...

It is "Do it for me" and totally not related.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Closed.
 
Well, that was fast. :)
 
Can I retag it please? :)
Can I can I can I can I? :)
 
2:50 PM
@Qrrbrbirlbel And not statistics, either
 
@Brent.Longborough I hardly pay attention to tags …
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Right, I think that was the least of our worries!
 
@NicolaTalbot what document class did you use to create the on screen viewing pdf output?
 
@Brent.Longborough The OP seems to have, if any, rather unclear ideas. :)
 
2:54 PM
@ガベージコレクタ scrbook
 
@egreg Not the first OP thus, nor, I suspect, the last. But this one appears to have managed to get everything wrong...
 
@Brent.Longborough Hence I want to retag it to :P
 
@NicolaTalbot thanks. i will see the code later. i am interested how you made the links at each page.
 
@PauloCereda OMG I looked at the picture; how do I unlearn that?
 
@Brent.Longborough Sorry. :)
 
3:01 PM
@PauloCereda I'm going to need therapy...
 
@ガベージコレクタ The "Previous" and "Next" links were done using \Acrobatmenu (with an \ifthenelse to check if it's the first or last page). Similarly for the other links, except for the summary and index, which just link to a \label at the start of those chapters.
 
@Brent.Longborough And we thought the annoying orange was scary... :)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel I don't think that should be migrated to another forum. It reads like it's been lifted from an assignment sheet.
 
@NicolaTalbot Just out of curiosity, what helped you to decide on using Antykwa Torunska? Not in any way a complaint, just that I find it a little hard on the eyes for a long read.
 
@Brent.Longborough I wanted an alternative to Computer Modern and Times/Helvetica/Courier as there seems to be a misconception that you're stuck with a very limited font range using TeX. I had a look at the font catalogue for a combination of serif, sans-serif and monospaced that went well together, looked good and are free. I'm sorry it's hard on the eyes. (I wasn't expecting it to be a long read, just a dip-in-and-out read.) Maybe I ought to use a different font for the next volume.
Oh, and it also needed to have maths fonts.
 
3:17 PM
@NicolaTalbot That's reasonable, the flight from T/H/C; and to a novice, CM might appear a little, let's say, unusual.! Maths fonts, of course, are an important factor, too.
 
@Brent.Longborough mathpazo was my second choice. I'm not sure if I should go back to that for volume 2.
 
@NicolaTalbot I hesitate to suggest these sorts of change to any author (if only because I'd be a bit reluctant to adopt them myself). Mathpazo seems like a good option, perhaps with either Palatino or Pagella?
 
3:33 PM
@Brent.Longborough I'm always open to suggestions :-) I'll do some more font trials. But now I ought to sort out some food for my son. Cheerio for now.
 
@NicolaTalbot BTW, there's an \includegraphics in pictures/texworks5-annote.tex that has a full path in it... Great talking to you.
 
 
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4:37 PM
Bother. Just had what I thought was an interesting question, only to find that both it and the variant I thought of after finding it had been answered here already. Time for gruntled up-voting, me-thinks.
 
Are people enjoying the recordings?
I'm working on one now, with one last one to do this evening
 
@JosephWright Yes, a lot! :)
 
@PauloCereda Good: I'm getting better at making them, I think :-)
 
@JosephWright Indeed. :)
 
@PauloCereda Next upload is Jonathan Fine with the second Raspberry Pi talk. It's converting to the correct format now, so with upload and Vimeo give it an hour or so.
The last one to do is TeX Gyre, where I'm trying the 'manual slide placement' approach. I need to listen to the audio to do that, so it needs to be after work.
 
4:44 PM
@Brent.Longborough drat. Sorry, I didn't pick up on that. I used my jpgfdraw app to create the image and forgot it defaults to writing the full path for the included bitmaps.
 
@JosephWright Cool. :) Now that you mentioned, I think Vimeo was a wiser choice than Youtube. Less poluted, I think. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-) I felt bad that you were distracted with other TeX related activity so only got a bit ahead of you -- should only take you a day or so at the most to get back. Since I am about to watch the video of your talk, without subtitles :-), I think you'll have plenty of time to get ahead.
 
Coo, I've earned another badge. This is like playing Angband, where you get experience from unlocking doors or disarming traps. Especially the necromancer bit. I'm half-expecting Sauron or Morgoth to turn up. Maybe I'll find some potions of intelligence lying around and then I'll be able to answer that flowfram question.
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@NicolaTalbot Next badge in progress. :) You'll soon get a new badge for having your messages starred here. :)
 
@NicolaTalbot Sauron's already been here. Turns out he was looking for a nice typeface for one of his writings.
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Q: What package allows Elvish in TeX?

David RobertsAnyone who has read The Lord of the Rings will recognise the Elvish script at the top of the page. If this is meant to be an example of what is typesettable in TeX/related software, what package is used to produce it?

 
4:53 PM
In other news:
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Q: Geometric Progression

MarthaA manufacturer produces 1200 computers each week. After week 1, he increases production by Scheme I: 80 computers each week Scheme II: 5% each week a) i) Find the output in week 20 under each scheme ii) Find the total output over the first 20 weeks under each scheme b) Calculate the schem...

the question got migrated. :)
 
@PauloCereda I doubt they'll accept it.
 
@AndrewStacey Indeed.
 

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