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12:03 AM
(Re: chat, question answered.)
 
AlanMunn: I think it would help if there was some sort of standardized file exchange format, so that you could hit a button in your editor of choice, and it would zip up all the files you need, ready to give to someone else. Figures, LaTeX files, fonts, possibly even a subset of packages (nonstandard ones?) needed to build the file.
Also: As a person using LaTeX for scientific work I'm having a hard time envisioning using it without a bunch of figures inserted. ^^
 
12:26 AM
@Canageek Well that's true, but users intuitively know that their figures need to be separate, but they don't think that way of fonts, was my main point. As a Mac user who has had to deal with font incompatibilities between Windows and Mac versions of Word, I'm just dying to relive that time :-)
 
 
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2:24 AM
Do any of the LaTeX systems work on a font file, rather then a system-installed font? I'd love to use fonts without having to install them in C://windows/fonts and slow my computer down.
 
@Canageek Anything you run with pdflatex uses fonts that are part of your tex distribution and not system installed fonts. Only lualatex and xelatex use system installed fonts. (Not quite sure what you mean by slowing your system down.)
 
If you install to many fonts on windows you can actually get the computer to slow down. It takes a lot, like installing all of one of those huge adobe cds
but it can happen
 
I guess that's possible depending on how fonts are searched for by the relevant software. I have a lot of fonts on my Mac and haven't really noticed anything. In this sense XeLaTeX is likely to be slowed down more than LuaLaTeX, I think, but I could be wrong. But with a regular TeX distribution, you technically only need the bare minimum of system installed fonts to run if you are using pdflatex or in fact, lualatex.
 
2:57 AM
It wouldn't be LaTeX compiling slowing down, but every time you open a menu in word, excel, etc. At least, that is the old advice I learned years ago, they may have fixed it since then.
 
@Canageek That's what I meant too. But part of the slowdown with Office was that the default is to display font names in the font; if you turn that off, the number of fonts makes less of a difference. w.r.t. LaTeX, any engine that uses system fonts will be slowed down by lots of fonts unless it uses some sort of cache for the font names. luatex does, but xetex doesn't if I recall correctly.
 
 
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8:19 AM
Another nice quote from a comment: "I thought the two would not work together in a trivial manner and did not even try."
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1 hour later…
9:29 AM
Good morning!
Today's Dilbert strip:
 
10:21 AM
@JosephWright: I was taking a look on the UK-TUG slides and I was in doubt: what does "bidirectional typesetting" mean? blushes
 
@PauloCereda Some languages are written from right to left (Arabic and Hebrew, for instance). Other languages are written from top down (and columns from right to left), like Japanese.
 
@egreg Ah, I see. Thanks. :)
@egreg: alread hit rep cap?
 
@PauloCereda Just half way. :)
 
10:37 AM
@egreg And the day hasn't even started yet. :-P
 
@PauloCereda Well, it's 12:30 pm, here. How did you like my answer about \widetilde and \dot? Ten second answer, 5 upvotes and accepted: 65 rep easily gathered. :)
But is it really deserved?
 
@egreg Here's -5 CEST (~ 7:41am). It's still early. Speaking of "deserved" rep, this \ifdefined answer gave me some points. And IMHO your answer was far superior than mine. :)
 
@PauloCereda Don't be shy!
 
@egreg /me hides in a box. :-)
@egreg: That reminds me of one of Victor Borge's quotes: "I only know two pieces; one is 'Clair de Lune' and the other one isn't."
 
11:37 AM
It's kind of amusing that Herbert earned the pstricks tag badge only today.
 
11:59 AM
There are times when I give an answer I'm particularly pleased with. Here's one:
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Q: Combining |- and !.5! in TikZ

Neil GHow do I combine the !.5! operator with the -| operator? I want a node that has x-coordinate equal to the average of x coordinates of nodes A and B, and a y-coordinate equal to the average the y coordinates of nodes C and D.

Not often I get to outwit Jake these days!
 
you two fighting for the TikZ wizard hat?
 
12:35 PM
@AndrewStacey By the way, did you try figure out the \pderiv problem?
 
@TorbjornT You mean from the cool package? No, I haven't had another look at it since you reported that it didn't work for you either.
Might be worth asking if anyone here has used it ...
*shouts very loudly* Oi! Has anyone here used the cool package for derivatives?
@NN Nah, not really. Jake's solutions are often more elegant than mine and many's the time I've produced some horrendous hack only for him to find a neat, concise way to solve it. So it's just fun to find a situation where the Horrendous Hacker is the more ... accurate solution (Jake's is still better, though).
 
@AndrewStacey Yep, that one. Well, it seemed to work for Matthew Leingang (who asked the question), I'll ask him in a comment.
 
12:51 PM
(This is totally bizarre. I'm sitting looking out of my office window. It is raining, but not that cold, maybe 12 degrees (centigrade). And yet there is a skiing competition going on out there. The Norwegians are crazy.)
 
@AndrewStacey snowcannons?
 
@NN No, roller skis.
(No, I'm not in Trondheim as well, I'm in Bergen looking out at the rain, but I can use Google.)
 
"The rain it raineth on the just,
and also on the unjust fella.
But mostly on the just because
... he's in Bergen."
 
@AndrewStacey We have bright sun and 26 Celsius temperature. :) Going to be the same in the next days (weekend included). :) I'm already planning my bike tour.
 
@egreg here too, a sunny day, 29ºC. Is you bike back from repair/revision?
 
1:06 PM
*refuses to talk to anyone south of Copenhagen*
 
@PauloCereda Everything well, it was just scheduled maintenance. I took it back yesterday, the people there are very efficient. Going again to Slovenia, I guess.
 
@TorbjornT I was flabbergasted the first time I saw someone skiing in the middle of summer.
 
1:23 PM
@egreg Cool, how many kilometers? BTW, we are in spring now. Beautiful season. :-)
 
Hello there :-)
 
@PauloCereda 600km, if the plan remains the same.
 
@Raphink Hi there!
@egreg Nice! Take some pictures.
 
hi @PauloCereda
 
@PauloCereda I've no camera. :) (lake Bohinj)[meteogiornale.it/attachments/images/news/maxi/2130_3_2.jpg]
This is one of the places
 
1:42 PM
@egreg how nice!
 
2:00 PM
@PauloCereda Here imagenes.w3.racc.es/uploads/image/… is Kranjska Gora
 
@egreg What a beautiful landscape! I envy you. Almost everywhere I look in here, I see sugar cane plantations. Thankfully my city is surrounded by some groves, but there are some sugar cane plantations, which are a plague for the soil and the environment (the way they are done).
 
Very nice :-)
 
2:23 PM
A new package is on its way to the CTAN: moderntimeline
 
2:55 PM
@Raphink What is it for?
 
@Canageek Making timeline diagrams I guess, right?
 
Pretty
 
:)
 
I like a more traditional looking CV though, I'm working on one right now with a class a coworker gave me.
 
2:59 PM
ok
I like a CV that stands out a bit
 
Still, that is very nice.
 
@Raphink: The CV timeline is very nice, congrats! I'll probably use it in the future.
 
Raphink: I'm an undergrad trying to get into research groups. I don't quite have the confidence yet to drastically go against what the career office tells me is good.
 
@PauloCereda sure do, it should be on CTAN soon.
@Canageek: Ah, I see :-)
@Canageek: That said, I'd still argue that an original CV (yet not crazy) is something that makes it stand out on the pile, and might get the attention of a recruiter.
 
I think not using Word with Times New Roman will do that actually
 
3:03 PM
Think of recruiters as having a big pile of CVs that all look similar on their pile. If one looks different (and nicely so), he's more likely to read the contents.
@Canageek: it surely helps :-)
 
There was a nice question on the main site about using .bib files to make a list of publications in descending order. It helped me a lot.
 
@Raphink You remind me that I keep meaning to look at CVs in my blog (my CV is not quite that flash, but I think it's okay :-)
 
Yeah, I'm using Jason Blevins's CV template. Not sure if it is on CTAN, the template we emailed to me.
 
what do you mean @JosephWright?
Simple and efficient indeed @Canageek
but I really like moderncv :-)
 
Oh hey, didn't notice that.
 
3:07 PM
In Brazil, for academic and scientific purposes, we have to use a default platform for curricula vitae. We call it Lattes.
 
@Raphink 'How to write a CV in LaTeX'. There are a number of classes, or one can 'roll ones own' (which is what I've done, having found curve more trouble than it was worth)
Of course, these things are very country- and discipline-dependent
 
@JosephWright ok :-)
moderncv could probably get a bit more flexible (although I've never personally had to adapt stuff that I couldn't do)
 
@AlanMunn That's because the 100th question was asked yesterday. (I also had to wait fairly long for the bronze badge.)
 
@JosephWright I did that as well. For most of the cases, I like moderncv, but in some situations I had to come up with a more "sober" solution.
 
Do you make different CVs for different occasions?
 
3:15 PM
@egreg Congratulations for completing another step to no. 1. ;-)
 
I do. Not that much, but sometimes I have to add/remove stuff from it.
 
@Raphink I swap parts in and out, but keep the same general layout (all of the jobs I go for are in the same general area)
 
ok
 
@lockstep Thanks; keep up the good job! You can overtake me again on Saturday!
But Martin is outside the reach of anybody.
 
@egreg Good job? You mean editing and voting, don't you? :-)
 
3:18 PM
Got an email with a title "your online TUG member access" :-)
 
@lockstep No, I was referring to your great answers.
 
@Raphink yay, congrats!
It will be a long way to reach @lockstep in number of votes.
 
@PauloCereda That's because the voting cap has no loopholes. ;-)
 
@JosephWright Do you use moderncv for them?
@lockstep oh. sobs
 
@PauloCereda As I said, I've moved to 'roll your own' , taking article plus some commented-out sections and the comments package
 
3:24 PM
@JosephWright ah got it. I did the same thing, apart from the comments package.
 
@PauloCereda Temporary upload of my CV plus source: texdev.net/CV
 
@JosephWright Looks nice :-)
 
@JosephWright wow, it looks very nice! Did you consider making it as an official CV package?
 
Hey, I sent someone a PDF and none of the ligatures copied correctly when they tried to copy/past text.
Will using type 1 fonts fix that? Or is there a way to fix that in PDFLaTeX
 
@PauloCereda It's partly a rip-off of some curve styling, recoded, plus using LuaTeX for nicer fonts
 
3:33 PM
@JosephWright Hm I see. Mind if I rip-off it too? The publications section is way cooler than mine.
 
@PauloCereda Feel free: as I said, I've been meaning to write a blog post about CVs, and intend to use my own CV as one approach
 
@JosephWright Thanks!
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Q: Is there a bibtex style that sorts references in reverse chronological order?

DimaI am putting together a CV in latex, and I am trying to get my list of publications to display in reverse chronological order. I can use \bibliographystyle{unsrt} as a workaround, and just order the entries manually, but I would naturally prefer if bibtex did that for me. Edit: Hmm... There see...

@lockstep's idea works like a charm.
 
@PauloCereda "Idea" is somewhat exaggerated. :-)
 
@lockstep Hm, how about "proposal"? :-)
or "approach".
 
@PauloCereda I've used BibTeX for my publications in the past, but the chemistry titles are very hard to line-break automatically, so there is an element of hacking needed. So it was faster in the end to do everything by hand. (We don't use paper titles in general, so this does not show up when writing papers.)
 
3:40 PM
@PauloCereda That's better. But I noticed that I should replace the (now obsolete) page numbers with section numbers.
 
@JosephWright Hm I see. I can't even pronounce them right.
 
@PauloCereda :-)
As I said, we don't generally worry about titles (<journal>, <volume>, <page> = unique reference)
 
@JosephWright Interesting. :-)
 
@JosephWrite: You work in Chemistry? Have you tried the ACS package?
 
@Canageek I write it :-)
 
3:45 PM
Oh my, thanks- I'm using it on my thesis.
 
I know people who maintain CTAN packages and don't actually use them :-)
Come to think of it, I'm one of these :-)
 
Regarding the question I posted before, the accepted answer points to a (now) 404 page.
 
@Raphink, you are not alone (c;
 
@Raphink That's true ,and I don't get much opportunity to use achemso, but I do when I can
 
@domwass You don't use biblatex-dw?
 
3:48 PM
@lockstep, I do, a lot, but I don’t use bibleref-german (until now, that is).
 
Grah, what space is the proper one to use after \LaTeX?
 
@Canageek: you can use \LaTeX{}
 
Thanks
 
Well, I do use idxlayout and (especially) quoting.
 
I am writing up my exam past papers solutions for a student group, is there some collaboration tool like google docs, that supports visual editing, but supports math tex markup?
actually which wiki has the best tex markup support/
 
3:52 PM
@PauloCereda Not anymore.
 
@lockstep Oh, I have to try out idxlayout – I hate to look up the index style file syntax every now and then when I have to write an index …
 
@TorbjornT Thanks!
 
@Raphink Or \LaTeX\
 
@TorbjornT that forces a certain type of space, whereas iirc \LaTeX{} just prevents it from eating whatever space should come after.
 
@PauloCereda No problem. I just re-googled for the title of the blog post.
 
3:54 PM
@domwass Basically, it's a key--value wrapper for multicol -- you're still free to produce .ist syntax errors.
 
@lockstep (c;
 
@Raphink Yeah, you're right.
 
@Raphink Yes, we've gone with \LaTeX{} as a general principle for the LaTeX3 docs for that reason
With the same for \TeX{}, etc.
 
yes
or any command not using xspace
 
@JosephWright: At the moment, one answer is flagged as "low answer quality score". Is my understanding correct that if I flag as "incorrect flag", both the person who flagged originally and I won't experience any positive or negative change in flag weight?
 
4:01 PM
@lockstep Good question, to which I'm not sure of the answer!
 
4:28 PM
@lockstep Yes, more evidence that tag badges are related to popularity of the tag rather than expertise per se. Around here, the tikz badge is probably the easiest one to get since tikz questions are so frequent. (Of course people like Jake and Andrew can put a significant damper on one's progress.) I've got plenty of votes for bibtex, but only 14 questions.
 
@AlanMunn Re: tikz badge -- not for me. :-)
 
Re: CVs As someone who's chaired and/or served on many faculty search committees/tenure review committees, I can say that other than basic readability and lack of typos, no one cares what your CV looks like. I may turn up my nose at the obvious Word travesty, but it will have no bearing on whether the person gets the job or not. At least in academia, letters of recommendation and actual publications are what matter.
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And in industry, many large companies only accept electronic CVs which then get pumped into analysis software, so all your formatting is for naught.
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A: Eforms on Mac OS X

Alan MunnFirst of all, using the MacTeX distribution of TeX Live, you should set any paths in your editor to point to /usr/texbin, not to the particular folder for the distribution. This is so that subsequent updates will not require you to reset these paths. /usr/texbin will always point to the binarie...

This took a while to solve via chat, because the OP had installed TeX Live using tl.install rather than MacTeX. It seems that the TL people should really discourage the tl.install route for Macs a bit more.
 
5:14 PM
@AlanMunn Good, I should have a paper out by the time I graduate. Well, I'll have contributed work to the early part, and not actually have written the paper, but I'll be listed as coauthor.
 
5:33 PM
Is there an easy way to make a lower case L look less like a 1 in Latin modern? I have ml2 (ML2) at the end of my email, and have trouble with people emailing -m12 instead. I could use capitalizes or smallcaps, but that draws the eye to my email in a way I don't like...
 
@Canageek Why not use a typewriter font?
 
Oh that might work.
@domwass No dice, they all have 1 like ls. At least the ones that fit in with the rest of the document. ML2 is it I guess. sigh
Man, I love the main characters in CM/LM, but the symbols are ugly.
The @ is not great, and the & is downright painful. Discourages use I guess.
 
I'm always amazed at Google's reactivity: google.com/search?q=%22moderntimeline%22
How they manage to recalculate the results so fast is amazing
 
5:57 PM
That is pretty crazy.
 
6:11 PM
What is the procedure if you have a very similar question to one posted, but the answer that was accepted for the original asker doesn't work for you? i.e. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/11847/…
But that doesn't let me copy $\gamma$ from my document.
I've added a comment to the answer, should I also add a bounty, or reask the question with my note that the original answer did not work for me or ?
 
You can add a bounty if you think the selected answer is not correct (that's my opinion, everybody might not share it)
@Canageek: you can have some funny situations, like tex.stackexchange.com/questions/27588/…
 
Oh, it worked for the original person. I seem to have a related, but different issue.
Back in an hour if anyone else has advice.
 
I asked a question, Mico answered, then I refined my question, and Mico decided to grant a bounty for it, I answerd myself, Mico gave me his bounty (on my own question) and I kept the right answer for him
 
7:07 PM
For a long time, I've been thinking of writing a new (La)TeX IDE.
 
Why would you like to rewrite vim? ;-)
 
oh my, no. :-P
I think it would be funny.
 
@PauloCereda We already have a lot of IDEs: what is your USP?
 
@JosephWright I'm not sure, but I was thinking of (a) smart code completion based on known macros or even the user-defined ones, (b) an integrated TikZ drawing tool, (c) a chart wizard based on pgfplots, (d) table assistant, (e) fancy output and... dunno, how about a TeX.SX button which actually exports the current code to the main site and opens the question form?
(Fun fact: USP is also an acronym of University of São Paulo.)
 
 
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9:52 PM
@egreg: "Breve guida" is now one of my favourite resources. :-)
 
@PauloCereda You could translate it into Portuguese. There's also profs.sci.univr.it/~gregorio/introtex.tex (but it should be revised in some parts).
 
@egreg Purely for my own curiosity, why don't you like the "closed" root symbol?
 
@AlanMunn There's no need for it. More seriously, some textbooks use it do denote something which has no real mathematical meaning: they distinguish between "arithmetic radicals" and "algebraic radicals" (the latter have "double sign" when the index is even). In my experience this is didactically absurd.
 
@egreg I'd love to! TBH it would be a great opportunity to learn Italian. :) And WOW, "Appunti di programmazione in LATEX e TEX" looks like a... a... (asking mom about the right word...) ... capolavoro!
 
10:12 PM
@PauloCereda It's just a way to collect some tricks, explaining the theory under them. But I've learned something writing it.
 
@egreg It's very useful, specially for a newbie like me.
Friends, is it against any site policy to ask the following: how to reproduce ecofont.com in LaTeX (like putting small dots tracing all letters)?
 
Jin
10:28 PM
hi
anyone here?
 
Jin
hi @paulo
 
hey @Jin :-)
 
Jin
i have a quick question, i'm creating the moderator cards for the mods on TeX.SE
it was already pointed out to me that on the front(left) card, it should be "TeX" instead of "TEX"
what about the other side?
I see TeX, LaTeX, and ConTeXt
are they OK? or should I play with the real formatting?
 
IMHO they look great. :-)
 
10:43 PM
@Jin We are rather fussy about printing TeX and LaTeX with a lowered capital E and a raised small capital A. :)
 
Just a minor fix: TEX = TeX, as pointed out.
 
Jin
@egreg I know you guys are picky about typesetting, more so than a designer :0
that's why i'm asking here.
 
BTW, the design is awesome, congrats!
 
Jin
@egreg so the back side looks OK?
 
@Jin: I second @egreg on printing TeX and LaTeX with the proper typesetting.
it's a very important point :-)
 
Jin
10:46 PM
by proper, you mean
 
Jin
what about ConTeXt
how is that formatted
 
you can get the SVGs from wikipedia
 
Jin
btw does it need to be in a specific serif font?
what typeface is ConTeXt in?
 
it's not about the typeface, but the letter positionning
if you tell us which typeface you want, we can produce the logos in PDF
it's a matter of seconds :-)
 
Jin
10:49 PM
well, the typeface i'm using on the back side is Palatino
 
yep
@PauloCereda maybe if you can send a link to a PDF or SVG, that might be easier for @Jin
I don't have Palatino here (wish I had FontFolio, if anyone is willing to give it as a gift :-))
 
@Raphink Neither do I. :-(
 
Jin
@PauloCereda thank you. is there any way you can make that a vector?
 
or @jin if you can send an OTF of Palatino I can render the PDF for you
 
10:52 PM
@PauloCereda \fontfamily{ppl}\selectfont
 
@egreg don't you need to have Adobe Palatino for that?
 
Sorry, why wouldn't \TeX \LaTeX and so on work? Do they not obey the surrounding formatting?
 
@Raphink It's one of the 35 fonts (actually TeX Live uses a clone).
 
ah ok
 
@Canageek No, different fonts require some tweaking. There's the metalogo package for that.
 
Jin
10:59 PM
I don't mind changing the font to Georgia on the backside
since it's a more accesible font, i think
Palatino is for OSX only
in fact, i've been meaning to change the css font-stack on tex.se
i found out that Palatino renders quotes pretty ugly
 
@Raphink Good job!
 
Is that good for you?
 
Jin
@Raphink shouldn't the letters TEX touch?
i'm comparing yours with the one on Wikipedia
and our site logo
 
@jin that depends on the font, the spec doesn't say so imo
 
Jin
11:01 PM
okie.
 
what the spec says iirc is that it should be capitals with a mix of super and sub scripts
but if you want to try another font, we can see how it would look ;-)
it certainly is optimized for the computer modern font (and derived)
 
Jin
that's fine. i can work with this. ty!
btw, I'm also creating swag package for TeX.se community this week.
 
swag?
 
Jin
Jeff will post a Meta post about it later, simliar to meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2288/…
 
ah, cool
 
11:06 PM
@Jin: I converted @Raphink's pdf file to svg. Does that help you?
 
Jin
@PauloCereda it's cool. i already opened his pdf in Illustrator, where I can convert to vector
 
@Jin Ah ok. ;-)
 
Jin
tex.se is still one of my fav designs..
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shhh don't tell other sites that.
 
@Jin Too late! We fav'd that. :-P
 
Jin
oh noes
I enjoyed designing for the site. the process of designing was most fun for me... because I didn't know a thing about TeX/LaTex before..
it was an educational experience
 
11:10 PM
hehe IMHO TeX is one of the most beautiful SX sites.
 
It is :-)
(and nicest communities, too)
@Jin and have you actually tried TeX since?
 
I want a mug with a TeX logo and the following text: "Go away, or I will replace you with a trivial macro."
 
or something like the "not my type" tshirts
Or
Or a t-shirt that says \msofficepenalty=10000
 
haha that one is priceless!
 
@Jin I have Palatino.
 
Jin
11:16 PM
@Raphink not yet. no time :( i'm more interested in learning TikZ later for creating geometric shapes
@AlanMunn i was able to replace the font to palatino from the pdf. but thanks though!
 
ah, that all goes together :-)
TikZ without the rest of TeX is pretty much pointless
(imo)
 
Jin
@Raphink yeah. I need to learn. Don't be surprised one day i start posting noob questions on TeX.se and you close them :)
 
A T-shirt with the Comic Sans ad would also be cool.
 
We don't close noob questions, only bad questions :-)
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Jin
@PauloCereda well, it is the most famous font..
 
11:18 PM
@PauloCereda Ah, yes :-)
 
@Jin He means a specific ad we did together :-)
 
@PauloCereda I want a T-shirt with the html with regex rant.
 
@AlanMunn what is that?
 
Jin
@Raphink ha nice
@Raphink oh.. that's a Stack Overflow meme
 
11:20 PM
@AlanMunn wow! That would be EPIC.
 
@Jin it's our community ads
 
Jin
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Q: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

JeffI need to match all of these opening tags: <p> <a href="foo"> But not these: <br /> <hr class="foo" /> I came up with this and wanted to make sure I've got it right. I am only capturing the a-z. <([a-z]+) *[^/]*?> I believe it says: Find a less-than, then ...

306k views, 2nd highest viewed question on the SE network
 
We are quite feral in our ads. <3
 
Jin
@PauloCereda well, ads are supposed to get people look at them 'n click on
i've actually used comic sans too, intentionally on one of our ads
and it had one of the highest click rates :)
 
@Jin Way faster than me in posting it. Some of us here encountered it for the first time when someone posted it as an example of how to typeset text written by a madman.
 
Jin
11:23 PM
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Q: How do I make my document look like it was written by an Cthulhu worshipping madman?

CanageekI want to type up some spells from the RPG Call of Cthulhu and give them to my players. I could just type them up in Word or LaTeX, but that seems too....neat. I'd like to make these things look like they were scrawled by a gibbering madman, unhinged by the horrors he has witnessed. Bonus points ...

the power of Jeff's tweets..
20.5k views so far
 
oh wow impressive
hadn't noticed
 
Oh, is THAT why it took off so much? I was wondering...
 
We also considered creating a tag.
 
Jin
@PauloCereda would that be a first?
 
@Jin Yes, that's the one. It's kind of sad that semi-frivolous questions are so popular. (Not that the answers were frivolous (if I do say so myself :-) but in the grander scheme of things, this is not quite as useful many other low vote questions and answers.))
 
11:25 PM
@Jin yep. :-)
 
Jin
@AlanMunn yes. but on the plus side, that type of questions bring more eyes to the site, therefore potentially new users.
 
Yeah, I wasn't expecting much response given how specific it was, but I really wanted to create a cool looking prop for my players.
 
@AlanMunn: regarding that question, I love percusse's comment on your answer: "That is a very calm, professional, psychopath handwriting. Mad, angry but disciplined!"
 
Sadly right after I got the first useful responses real life jumped me and I have not had time to actually use any of the advice.
 
@Canageek Don't take my comment as meaning you shouldn't have asked the question: it was a perfectly fine question, it's the popularity of it that I was remarking on.
 
11:28 PM
It was also the single easiest question to verify no one has asked before.
 
@Jin Good point. And it was very funny. As you might have noticed, we are more "humorless" than the average SX sites.
 
Jin
I discovered this lovely gem pack from that question. cthulhulives.org/toybox/PROPDOCS/PropFonts.html
 
I'm hoping that best-practices question gets some good answers, as it seems really easy to develop bad habits.
 
Jin
i may use some of the type faces on the sci-fi.se design..
I monitor tweeter pretty closely for SE related tweets
there had been some questions on math.se that got tweeted a bunch times, or posted on hackernews, reddit etc
 
haha
 
Jin
11:31 PM
so i feel what you're saying.. these less serious questions get more eyeballs
for example, i'm sure our math people are shaking their heads at
162
Q: Is this Batman equation for real?

a_hardinHardOCP has an image with an equation which apparently draws the Batman logo. Is this for real?

 
(note to self: print that thread... for... research...)
 
@PauloCereda Oh I wouldn't go that far. Have you spent much time with on stackoverflow. I think there's a lot of humour to go around.
 
Jin
it has 123k views! highest viewed question on math.se
 
@AlanMunn True. I only fear that most of my "funny" remarks might get flagged. :-P
 
@Jin Yes. But as you say, it may bring more users into the site. Also, sometimes such questions actually pose really interesting puzzles, and many of us simply like to solve them. I was working on a random baseline answer to the madman question myself, but another poster beat me to it with one, so I stopped. There's only so much procrastination one can do. (The rest has to be put off until tomorrow.)
 
11:35 PM
NaNaNaNaNaNaNaNa Batman!
 
Man, and then some questions I expect to be really easy or even trivial for someone more proficient in LaTeX get 0 answers.
 
Jin
i find it so interesting that, even though a lot of the SE sites were seeded by programmers from SO, now they've developed their own subculture and personalties
every site "feels" different, not just because of the design/topics
 
@Canageek Of yours? Or others. Sometimes things get overlooked. We have a monthly "answer/deal with the unanswered questions" session on the site, but if you have some examples, we can take a look.
 
@AlanMunn: what if we come up with a "regex rage" lipsum package?
 
The non-math mode greek one I posted today- I'm not really worried, I only put it up a couple hours ago, and it is more of a 'it would be nice' then a 'I need this to get my thesis to compile' type of question.
 
11:39 PM
Good night, everyone!
 
Good night, @Gonzalo!
 
@Jin That's definitely true. The TeX world is one of the most pleasant ones I've been a part of.
 
I've read two or three times (in comments) that this is a friendly SE site, and got the impression that some other sites must be a little harsh. Is that really so?
Or maybe are we too kind?
 
I've found the RPG one to be a bit off, but I've not been on long.
I know they are having trouble getting enough people as well.
 
@GonzaloMedina Weren't you just leaving? Anyway, I think that especially in programming sites, the signal to noise ratio is low relative to ours, with lots and lots of potential duplicates, which leads to understandable frustration among the users. On the other hand, I've heard that de.comp.text.tex is brutal if you ask a question without a MWE.
Also, some sites just aren't suited for experts. I would go mad myself I participated in the English Language site. (And probably the linguistics one in Beta now, too.)
 
11:48 PM
@GonzaloMedina I think we are very receptive to the newbie. @Raphink said something very nice, "we don't close noob questions, only bad questions". It's nice to have a friendly place, we have a moderate and sober humour (as Alan pointed out), and the majority of users is willing to share their knowledge.
 
@AlanMunn I was just arriving! My poor English can be misleading....
 
@PauloCereda Apropos to my previous comment, we also have a really good base of real experts.
@GonzaloMedina Ah, I wondered that. In that case, you have to say "Good evening" (although that sounds terribly formal, so just Hi would probably have worked best.) :-)
 
@GonzaloMedina Then mine is far worse. I innocently said good night too. :-P
 
@AlanMunn; well sometimes I feel like going mad when no (or uncomplete) MWEs are given. And, Hi!
@PauloCereda maybe it's because we suffer from linguistic interference, and Portuguese and Spanish use the English equivalent to "Good night" as a greeting
 
@GonzaloMedina True! :-)
 
11:55 PM
@GonzaloMedina It's true, but we seem to keep our rage in check, and so people don't feel like we're jumping down their throats as soon as they ask a question. Every so often though we certainly get a "WTF kind of a question do you think that is?" sort. I find it quite interesting that some just don't seem to get the MWE idea at all.
 
Sorry, what is an MWE?
 
@Canageek Minimal (Compilable) Working Example.
 
Sometimes, we face a Monstruous Working Example. :-)
 
MWE: (i) it must be a complete, compilable document (no fragments) (ii) it must use only the minimum packages needed to show the problem.
@GonzaloMedina Yes, interference is always a problem for second language speakers. And when the languages are really close it can be even worse, since it's very subtle. (For example if you decide to learn Portuguese.)
 

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