The Quill and Tankard

6:12 AM

@Aegon, your hunt for the 200 has cost me a day on the way to Legendary. I will not forget this ;-P

6:24 AM

@Edlothiad How come lol? And I am hunting the same badge as you, my Good Ser!

6:48 AM

You got all the upvotes for your "fan-fic" :-P (That's what I like to think of the "based on a lie" answer to keep myself happy)

@Aegon I meant your GoT gold hunt

Cuz I'm going for Tolkien Gold, if someone would ask some more questions...

All the Tolkien specialists have moved on, I'm the only faithful one.

7:10 AM

@Edlothiad Same with asoiaf, KutuluMike, System Down, TLP, Shevliaskovic, Tenth Justice, Mike Scott are rarely active. Only a handful of us remain to serve the realm

@Edlothiad Shagga likes Fan-Fic ;)

Shagga likes Axes!

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@Edlothiad TLOTR is on my Reading list. I'll most likely have a lot of questions.

7:40 AM

Mike Scott has been giving pretty awful answers recently, 3 to 4 lines, un-sourced head canon. But KutuluMike has been away mostly, rarely answering even marvel questions. I don't know about the other guys, but some of the users haven't read the books etc. I'd say the top asoiaf contributors are you, skoobs and moozaroot.

@Aegon Oh god let me know when, I need to be prepared! I need to figure out how to get my ebooks at work. There's no asearchoficeandfire.com for tolkien (yet)

8:02 AM

@Edlothiad I tried before as well. Read as far as when Frodo and company reached the Prancing Pony. Then I said meh I'll get to it later. Might be a while.

@Aegon It's a slow start, you have to bare in mind it was written in the 30s because everyone wanted a sequel to the hobbit, he'd have preferred to just write his silmarillion

8:20 AM

@Edlothiad I have gotten a lot of hate for saying this previously but Tolkien's style didn't appeal to me. The phrasing was way too flowery and archaic. And he tends to dump a lot of historical info on new readers right in the beginning. Let the story flow, add chunks of background along the way.

I have been told that that might be because I am not a native English speaker.

But I dislike the same flowery phrasing style in literature of my mother tongue as well. So maybe that's not the case

Of course we have to consider that Tolkien wrote his works , what, 60-70 years ago?

@Aegon The 60th anniversary was a few years ago, gosh that was a GORGEOUS hard cover book. 60GBP, but so worth it (I have a collection of his works :) )

@Aegon For Tolkien he didn't care about selling it to readers or making money. He was a professor of one of the most prestigious course at the most prestigious university at the time (English and the Classics and Oxford). He wrote his stories because he wanted to create a mythology for the UK in the same way the Norse and the Greeks had theirs, and in doing so felt the need to be very descriptive when creating his world

I have watched the movies however more times than I care to admit. I know the dialogues by heart by now. But judging by how GoT irks me due to deviations from the book, guess that's the same with Tolkien readers who appear to generally dislike the movies.

He was more invested in people experiencing the world for what it was, and not just hearing a story but creating the world behind him

@Aegon The LotR films are a better adaptation then the Hobbit films.

@Aegon Meh, if you get upset about the films you're not able to realise their "Jackson-verse" and not part of the Legendarium

Hobbit Movies felt a bit dragged.

There a modern take on a classic book

@Aegon 9 hours of film, 300 pages of childrens books, ofc they were dragged

8:27 AM

@Edlothiad They could have settled for two movies. But no, they had to make a trilogy.

@Aegon Meh more money. why only make 2/3s of the profit you could make. I know in the UK people flooded to the cinemas, hell I payed 17GBP to go see the midnight screening at the BFI IMAX (one of the biggest screens in the world) and because I knew Ian McKellen would show up. And that cinema had about 150 people in it.

FINALLY! The Mystery Knight graphic novel was released Last week and I never knew

The thing with GOT and ASoIaF and Tolkien is that there isn't the same amount of users spamming 100s of answers on a post to keep them in the HNQ for 3-4 days so it's rare you get a Great Answer

@Aegon I still need to get all of those.

@Aegon It was released July 14th?

@Edlothiad I have only one. Compare that to the other Great Answer badge I got. It's from Harry Potter and it's shit.

@Edlothiad I have the first two. Not the third

@Edlothiad It was? I just read a Citadel post dated 25th of August

I don't have any great Answers

Hmm set to be released

8:35 AM

I consider that I have only one.

That too because it blew Show-watchers minds that Jon was Lyanna's son

So there was a lot of people searching for that. Why didn't Eddard tell Catelyn

This says August 8th penguinrandomhouse.com/books/232355/…

@Edlothiad Just a few weeks. I am not that late then.

Lol, your Famous Question is my highest upvoted answer

A classic opinionated quote-less answer that hits the HNQ and goes to 100 I'm astounded how often that happens

@Edlothiad You just need 21 more to hit great answer. Not that far.

Oh ya, 22k is a lot of views

@Aegon Is anyone going to search for "Did the Rohirrim find the H-word offensive?"

I might make fake edits to bump it back up :D

8:41 AM

@Edlothiad As I said, it's s**t

@Aegon It's just surprising how many hit 100 though, if it's a HNQ it's almost 75% certain a quick un-sourced top voted answer will hit 100

Daniel Roseman and Mike Scott have both started doing that, and if they get a 5 upvote headstart, gg there answer is the top. Unlike your "fan-fiction" it just couldn't stay down could it

580 rep from 20k, easily doable in 3 days if I find questions to answer

I don't like people that answer for rep rather than to give knowledge... I mean it's a nice feeling to get a lot of upvotes on something but come on.

You don't answer for rep? No point in answering then

I live for internet points. How else do I keep my GoT average score at ~30/answer and my Tolkien at ~20/answer

Gotta pick and choose them HNQs!!

Haha! I do love those shiny green internet points that's for sure.

I caught a nerve in my shoulder as I got to work this morning and almost drove through the backdoor haha

I woke up 10mins before I had to be at work and got in 20 minutes late

Today must be cursed

8:50 AM

30 mins from waking up to getting in isn't bad though

Must be

whew only 40 minutes to lunch, I'm starving

@TheLethalCoder Woke up, through on clothes, grabbed leftover tart (thank god there was some) and ran to the bus. Literally ran, in my business shoes, a kilometer uphill to get the bus.

@Edlothiad Haha I'd definitely go arse over tit if I decided to run in my work shoes.

Meh, it's good I do a lot of sports, can run in effectively anything, even flippers

Westeros.org Discusses... Annulment in Westeros

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Can't watch I'm listening to french podcasts, learning french while working while on SFF

9:00 AM

@Skooba You might find this interesting re your question about two Aegons and legitimacy of existing kids

Yeah I'm a good runner just these have no grip. They're smooth and slippy

Aren't all business shoes :D that's why the road is grippy

@Edlothiad No I have some brogues too and they have awesome grip

I have 3 pairs of shoes total lol. 2 of them being sports shoes. I don't really know what a brogue is

Ah i see, mine are similar to those

Although it seems like at work I can wear trainers if I please

I can't gotta be smart un case I need to go out to a customer :/

I have a few pairs of shoes but only wear 3 pairs - 2 being for work haha

9:14 AM

Lol scrubby Interns don't go see customers :-D

I would buy more pairs, but I got big feet so it's a hassle and it costs money, lol

The soles of my trainers have two BIG holes where my big toes are, still wear them cuz money

Haha, to be fair I work for a small company around 10 people so even as an apprentice I was going to customers :)

Oh this is like in the 1000s

Haha mine always wear out at the back outside corner first

They've got me sitting behind a desk programming :D

@TheLethalCoder You must supinate

you should get that checked

stretchcoach.com/articles/pronation-supination

Yeah heel down first

on outside

9:17 AM

You can go to an adidas or soemthing store in a city and ask if they have a thing where they can test it for you

Or ask if they have trainers which support supination

I'm fine with it, never had any problems with my legs so far... apart from when I slipped into a fence playing football and took a massive slice out of my knee haha

@Edlothiad Nice one, I've recently moved into my own office now. Though we work with big scanners so I used noise complaint as an excuse.

Since you was talking about Tolkein earlier I keep misreading this line of code _cancellationTokenSource.Token.IsCancellationRequested

Ah I'm not a good programmer :/ I just do what I need to haha, have to re teach myself all the syntax all the time.

@TheLethalCoder We have semi-open offices, I face the rest of the guys, but also my screen faces the door, so I can't really hide :(

@Edlothiad Programming is just problem solving once you learn the syntax :) What language do you use?

@Edlothiad Our building was built in the 70s I think and the company hasn't really grown with employee size since then so I used to work out in the "showroom" where everyone could see me. Problem was I was surrounded by industrial scanners and when they're running you can't hear yourself think. So I asked to move into an office and they let me :D

@TheLethalCoder Right now I'm automating a Delphi Gui using either SikuliScript or Ranorex. Sikuli is basically Jython (basically Python) and Ranorex is basically C#/VB.net

@TheLethalCoder Ah that's awesoeme, the only complaint I'd have is "Sun's in my eyes", but they'd just say "close the curtains"

The office is basically like being at home, curtains on the windows, desk like I had over uni, it's funny

@Edlothiad Ah cool we use mainly C# though we've been upgrading an old project from C++ and VBScript to C# recently so that's been fun.

9:28 AM

Oh that's cool!

I've never really used C# but I a VB.net GUI last year and I guess they're similar

@Edlothiad Haha mine is kind of like that except all the windows are barred as we've had a few break ins. It's like a home prison haha.

Yeah VB.Net is like the ugly brother of C#.

Hmm I would hate that. We don't really have breakins I'm in a civilised country

@TheLethalCoder Yeah :D or the one designed for idiots ;P

@Edlothiad I'm in UK in a less than civilised area

I'm in Switzerland, we don't even lock our bikes here :D

@Edlothiad I've been to Switzerland once before. It is really nice from what I saw of it. There was one building with a bar at the top and when you went for a dump you were exposed to the windows. Was kind of cool/odd at the same time haha.

Looking out over all the people going about there business below as you're going about a different kind of business above them haha

9:32 AM

The toilet at work has a view of the mountains, I love it

@TheLethalCoder That's hilarious, where was this?

Awesome :)

@Edlothiad I can't remember to be honest, was a few years ago. We went to visit family friends, who've since moved back, so we were kind of being shown around. I didn't really take in most of the place names.

Woohoo LUNCH!

Woo

2 hours to go for mine

Though I've only been here 1.5 hours haha

Ah we have to be in at 8 so we eat at 11:30

I was wondering why you seemed to be an hour ahead to where I thought you should be ahha

Q: Which bastards in Westeros were automatically legitimized once their parents married?

9:36 AM

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I was watching a discussion between Elio and Linda, co-authors of The World of Ice and Fire and founders of Westeros.org, on Annullments in Westeros, in light of recent developments in the show. Linda says in that video: We do have an example of course from ...

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Q: Which bastards in Westeros were automatically legitimized once their parents married?

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@Aegon Closest thing I can find is the Ironborn and the rock wife and salt wives situation.

"Salt marriages, like rock marriages, were customarily performed by priests of the Drowned God ... and the children of such unions were considered legitimate."

@TheLethalCoder Children of Saltwives are not bastards tho

Yup

Yeah I know, it's just the closest thing I could find.

10:07 AM

You'll have to wait for mooz to get on the old twitter

I might see if I can send them a quick email later

Another close example are Jaime and Cersei's children though the situation is different.

They didn't get married and were never legitimised

(Legitimised as Lannisters)

That's what I mean it's a close situation but not the one they are talking about.

They are considered legitimate Baratheons but are in fact Lannister bastards.

I suppose they could have got mixed up with the timeline and assumed Jon to be this case. It wasn't IU but from what we're shown OOU he was a bastard Stark, then bastard Targ and now a legitimate Targ.

@Edlothiad I came here to ping him with that exact message lol

@Aegon What's the context behind the quote, were they talking about anyone beforehand?

10:15 AM

@Möoz Time to put your twitter handle to use, Go ask Elio.

@TheLethalCoder the question of whether Rhaegar's annulment made his kids bastards or not.

So they were saying if legitimization works retroactively, maybe bastardy works in the same albeit inverse way

@Aegon Then it could be about Jon if they got the timeline confused but I doubt it.

I've created a twitter for this question @Möoz just so you know I've tweeted them, if you want to too, go ahead

@TheLethalCoder The whole discussion is about Jon, the annulment and legitimacy and how show made a pig's ear out of the whole affair

@Aegon Ahh okay so they shouldn't be referring to Jon then at least.

10:31 AM

God that was so difficult to write. Twitter gives you so few characters to work with.

10:43 AM

Could they be talking about Megette's children? They talk about Aegon IV and Megette a lot

@Edlothiad Merry Meg? Aegon IV never married anyone except Naerys

Not even Daena the Defiant

He "Married" her

When did that happen? I don't think I have read anything about it.

He just took her from her husband and had his way with her

Oh they wed

There was a drunken mummer acting as the septon, it's on her awoiaf page and they mention it in the podcast

But the kids were given over to the Faith

Her daughters were born in Wedlock then

And therefore never were bastards

But had no inheritance rights, due to faith's vows

In any case, doubt that marriage was binding. The person officiating wasn't a Septon

The wedding wasn't done in light of old gods as evident from the Mummer officiating as a Septon. In Old Gods at least, you dont need clergy

10:47 AM

Surely being born in wedlock makes you a bastard

@Edlothiad Outside you mean?

Yep got confused

The daughters were born after there "wedding?"

Yeah so TLDR, if we consider the marriage binding, The daughters were legit and never bastards. If we consider the marriage a farce and invalid, they were bastards all along.

I get one upvote for an answer to the question, Aegon gets 5 for his "fanfic" :rolls_eyes:

@Aegon Hmm ok, I don't know I just heard them talking about it and guessed, either way I've asked on twitter, lets see

@Edlothiad "Robert could piss in a cup and men would call it wine, but I offer them pure cold water and they squint in suspicion and mutter to each other about how queer it tastes." Stannis ground his teeth.

10:51 AM

So examples they could be talking about but none seem to fit:
- Ironborn saltwife children
- Jaime and Cersei's children
- Jon
- Megette's children
- Sand snakes

@Edlothiad TWOIAF doesn't mention the chronology. The order of phrasing however suggests that the daughters were born afterwards

"Megette was installed in a house in King's Landing; she and Aegon were even "wed" in a secret ceremony conducted by a mummer playing a septon. Megette gave her prince four children in as many years. "

@TheLethalCoder Should probably mention that in the question

@Aegon Yeah, thought I'd sum up the conversation so we don't repeat anyone.

@Aegon Gold sums up the answers perfectly

Not perfectly worded, but here's my tweet

@Edlothiad Seems fine to me

It was version 9 or 10, so many attempts due to the lack of characters

11:05 AM

@Edlothiad Should have given them sci fi se link.... Elio has answered a question personally here at least on one occasion

I could provide it in a comment, there wasn't enough space afaik

Still for our purposes, it doesn't matter

Damn 140 characters

You could reply to the tweet with a link, will they see it then?

@Aegon It's so stupid

@Edlothiad Easier on the database though I suppose

11:12 AM

@TheLethalCoder pfft, everyone else can handle it

Q: Why are there Lords and Sers on the wall?

@Edlothiad Oh I'm sure they can handle it but it's probably an excuse they give

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11:28 AM

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In You Win or you Die Jeor Mormont says: You came to us as outlaws, poachers, rapers, killers, thieves. You came alone, in chains, without friends or honor. You came to us rich and you came to us poor. Some of you bear the names of proud Houses, others only bastard names or no names at ...

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@SF&FFeeds I think this may be a good question, but it takes a certain level of obliviousness while reading not to realise why

@Aegon although I want the rep, I'll let you answer

@SF&FFeeds I've posted an answer but I'm not completely happy with my wording...

Or even my conclusions I think I may have mucked something up in my head...

@Edlothiad I am busy at work, hence the comments. Feel free

@TheLethalCoder I think you've missed the mark entirely

11:51 AM

@Edlothiad I've just read your answer, I meant to say what you've said but I must have muddled my words up +1 to yours anyway

@TheLethalCoder You ended up with the complete opposite :D From your answer I gathered that they should give them up but don't

You must've muddled up your words.

Oh well I'll leave it alone because yours says what I wanted too haha

Edit it if you wish

I mean the +1 got you 1 more towards the gold asoiaf/got and you'll get more as the question gets more attention

Is it this line "So all of this seems to back up your claim that people who take the black should no longer claim their titles."? I tried to counter that with the next sentence but might not have done it well.

Yeah it is, though I need the silver first!

And the bronze asoiaf

I'm 2 away from bronze got now, but I don't really care. It's the tolkien ones I care about

12:00 PM

Here's a question for you: If Jon had been legitimised at any point until now he would have been a "true" Stark. As we know he is actually a Targaryen. Do we know what would happen then? Would he actually be a Stark still or would he revert to a Targ? I suppose it falls down to the ruler to decide?

@TheLethalCoder He can take both names

Descendants from female line can take the name of their mother's house

Even husbands can take their wife's house name

See Succession Crisis of House Hornwood for example

So Jon Targaryen-Stark? Do we have any evidence of this happening before? I know Jon refers to Cat as Catelyn Tully Stark at least once in the books.

Or Succession to the throne of the Kings of the Rock, after death of Gerold III Lannister

@Aegon they've answered

@TheLethalCoder No he can retain only one. He can choose either one. Or alternatively, he can lay foundation of his own cadet dynasty, Stargaryen

12:02 PM

@Edlothiad A bit unsatisfying that it's from future material though

Well current material that hasn't been released

@Aegon Oh I like Stargaryen haha

but it's a good way to advertise your books

Yeah, doesn't that make it future though? haha

While people combine coat of arms e.g. Joff using both stag and lion, Big Walder and lil Walder mixing sigils of their mothers and their fathers, none use both names

@Edlothiad Answered what?

A: Which bastards in Westeros were automatically legitimized once their parents married?

12:03 PM

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Linda's referring to a detail from George's material that was cut from TWoIaF, but will be appearing in FIRE AND BLOOD, relating to a situation where Lord Hightower took up with his step-mother following his father's death. The High Septon refused to countenance the relationship and would not all...

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Interesting, what do you think he'll do? Go Stark, Targ or new? As I'm sure Dany would legitimise him if he goes Stark.

@TheLethalCoder Patrilineal line > Matrilineal. I'd go Targ personally.

@TheLethalCoder Yeah I guess so, I mean it has been written in but edited out

Did Elio leak unreleased info? :O

Need to look into it

12:07 PM

@TheLethalCoder He's legitimate doesn't need legitimising. I hope he goes Stark, he's spent his whole life being "Lord Snow" and people making fun of his lack of Starkness

If yes, that would be super awesome

@Aegon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Aegon I think they've set it up for him to go Targ especially with him wanting Sansa to rule the north when he was named KitN,

didn't we confirm it is him the last time he did this?

@Skooba Yes, Mooz did it. Its him

12:08 PM

I tweeted him, and he came

@Edlothiad He's not a legitmate Stark though, that's what I meant.

He is cuz Lyanna

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Thanks Ed for the tweet, no problem

@Aegon Ye it's unreleased

I suppose

12:09 PM

@Edlothiad you got a woo

@TheLethalCoder He can be a stark as Edlothiad said. But there is no need. House Stark's line is secure. House Targaryen needs more heads

At least three heads

@Skooba I'm going to hunt you down and break the other arm if I don't get a bigger Woo.

@Aegon Who's the third Tyrion? PAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah I think he'll go Targ

@Edlothiad Oh did you tweet a second time? I thought you just linked YT link. Thanks man. Elio answering is almost as good as GRRM

@Aegon I think it's time to go to reddit and release the info. And Also get a new badge

12:10 PM

@Aegon Ye tweeted the SFF link

@Skooba I accept

@Edlothiad In the shows perspective I hope not but who knows.

I should really do some work

@TheLethalCoder Stupidest theory if it happens I quit

I'm on my lunch now :P

It'd be worse than Tauriel x Fili

@TheLethalCoder I haven't done any work all day, so I'm always on lunch?

12:12 PM

@Edlothiad the books support it a bit

@Edlothiad What about from the books perspective though? Isn't that where most of the "evidence" comes from.

Tyrion has a purple eye

@Skooba No go away

Don't want to hear it, it's a load of waffle

his hair is descrbed as more silvery than portrayed on the show

could be a red herring

Mad King was said to lust after Joanna

@Edlothiad Even though there is undeniably some merit to the theory, I hate it as well. But then again, I am a Lannister sworn sword and I want Tyrion to remain a Lannister

Not a Lanngaryen...Even the name sounds silly

@Skooba White, not silvery. But what's the diff eh

12:14 PM

@Aegon Tarnister: Tarnish the name and theory?

@Aegon Targarister

@Skooba And his birth kinda coincides with Joanna's visit

@Skooba I know all the reasons, it's still bullshit

@Edlothiad yeah might be too obvious

Who thinks Cersei will be killed by Jaime or Tyrion? If so by which?

12:18 PM

Jamie, Valonqar

^^^ +1

I hope they don't pull a "valonqar has no gender in high valyrian"

I'm edging towards Jaime more than Tyrion now but I think for him to actually do it Cersei either needs to do something more rash than she's already done or for him to find out that she wasn't really pregnant (I don't believe she is so I think that might push him over the edge)

@Skooba Yeah because then it essentially falls down to "80% of the population could do it"

@TheLethalCoder yeah people like that tho because again "George tricked us"

but people still claim it could be like 25% of the population as it didn't say "your valoqar"

I'm like come on, it is Jaime.

If it's any younger brother, I'm going to shit a brick

Who wants to be tricked by something daft like that though? That's what I want to know

12:31 PM

well id Stannis taught us anything.... grammar is important

I'm sure he is pissed up in the seven heavens that he died because of a grammar mistake

Then he looks over at his wife and daughter and realises he deserved it. That's some doghouse he is in up there.

If you've got a reddit account, get upvoting! reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/6yuguc/…

12:44 PM

@Aegon How much do you like Euron?

Enough for a badass profile pic... mike-hallstein.deviantart.com/art/King-Euron-Greyjoy-641533501

@TheLethalCoder Meh Victarion is way cooler

I hate that they merged them in the show

@TheLethalCoder I don't like him at all. Among the Greyjoys it goes like this for me Asha > Victarion > Theon > Euron > Balon

Too true

What about the Damphair, I think he's dope

I hate religious nutjobs

Primarily the reason why I don't like Mel

Ye but Damphair is a dank nutjob. He's like Victarion but religious

12:52 PM

@Edlothiad Andddd Done

Hello @Tomato what brings you here?

@Aegon You're the real hero.

It's not looking like it's going to hit the thousands at this rate :/

Day 5 of rep streak

I don't really like Euron but the image was cool haha

@Aegon are they trying to get rid of the Transphobic thing again?

Should I ask on IPS?

3 more upvotes to new record!

And silver badge!

1:29 PM

@Edlothiad Looks like its the same anon user

@Aegon Keep rejecting I guess ;P

Did you get an upvote on my question "To what extent did Jon Snow have abilities as a warg?"

Someone just stumbled across it :D

@Edlothiad Yeah 2 mins ago

Wonder what google terms they used to find it?

Got that reminds of that whole debate with theMathemagician

What debate?

I think that was my first question

1:34 PM

A rather long one...on whether jon was aware of his powers or not

Well your answer seemed to make it clear to me, and going on to make it obvious as I read more of the books

God that question got 8k views!

Only five of my questions reached 1k+

So many people found it through google. it was 2.5k last year

I only have 10 questions, lol

My most viewed question is about Guardians of the Galaxy

4/10 hit 1k+. and all went 5k+

1:37 PM

15k, guess it's cos the films are popular

1 I don't consider my question, I did it just to get a tag and golly was it poorly recieved

@TheLethalCoder linkity link

Q: How was Groot able to say "We are Groot"?

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Near the end of the film - as Ronan's ship, The Dark Aster, crashes to the ground - Groot creates a protective cocoon for the rest of the team. It all gets very emotional and Groot says: We are Groot! As far as I was aware all he can say is "I am Groot". How is he able to do this? I've s...

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I just saw no one had asked it and assumed there must be a reason but to be honest I wasn't that interested in the answer haha

My most viewed and voted question is on SO and it was a mistake on my part. Guess because it had a kind of click baity title haha

Oh that was a good one

1:51 PM

It was alright I suppose. Interesting to see the answers.

I like your comment on one of the answers "Why use this nonsensical out-of-universe answer when a good, evidence-based in-universe-answer was given?"

Narusan

@Aegon That's epic. I don't know whether Martin knows how to your twitter and SrackExchange...

@Narusan Yeah. He prefers his liveJournal instead. And that too is more of an announcement board for him

Q: Why was the breaking of the wall of Helms Deep, so important in the Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers film?

2:08 PM

@Aegon speak of the devil

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I have not read the book, and I am referring here, to the movie only. I saw in the film that the way to the inside of Helms Deep was through a gate, the way to which inclined up somewhat steeply, and the gate or the road to it, was not attached to or built inside or built into the wall. So, the ...

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A pretty bad question, but oh well

2:34 PM

@Edlothiad Hornburg in the movies did appear to be independent of that wall. Makes sense that people would wonder how would the breach threaten the Stronghold proper

The stairway IIRC lead to a Sally port

@Aegon They were clearly connected

Which should presumably have a gate as well

The one Aragorn and Gimli jump out of?

@Edlothiad That's on the other side

Right side

The stairs are on the left

On the Wall's side

Looks disconnected

From this angle as well. The curtain wall protecting the Stronghold is separate

Idk if there is any way to access the caves from the breach

That's perfect, thanks!

That's bad game cannon

2:42 PM

judging by the number of answers and activity, it might make it to HNQ

I am going to go and complaint that "and we see that it nearly fell, too, in the movie." spoiled the Movie for me and now I am going to lock myself in a Washroom and I am never coming out

@Aegon ERRR MAH GOD! SPOILLLERRZ!

I've thrown in the image and hopefully that beefs up my answer

I'll embolden some things

@TheLethalCoder on an 80 year old work, lol ok

@Edlothiad Rand says Spoilers are always spoilers.

He linked some meta post too

So yes, ERMAHGERD SPOILERS!

They might always be spoilers but people need to learn about common sense

@Aegon it's 100% in the HNQ now, comment that you were browsing spoilers and this spoilt the ending for you

@TheLethalCoder use my argument "Stop being immature, you're acting like a toddler"

2:48 PM

Lol

Haha

Unless it's on one of my posts I just leave the "spoiler brigade" to it now

@Aegon @rand would you allow someone to claim a question spoiled the hobbit for them?

@Edlothiad Which question?

Narusan

3:20 PM

@Edlothiad Where did you get a digital version of Tolkien's drawings from?

Sekhemty

@Narusan if you mean the sketch of the Hornburg, you can see it here tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Helm%27s_Deep

@Edlothiad Why was that question bad?

Pfft this guy reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/6yuguc/…

3:37 PM

@Aegon He seems to be confusing marriage with acting like your married

@TheLethalCoder Yup. Elio never said that Hightower already took her to wife. He just said he took up with her.

Friday so I finnish in 20 mins, half an hour earlier than every other day

woop

Narusan

@TheLethalCoder Almost there ;)

3:53 PM

Alright gents. I'll see you guys on monday then. Seven blessings to you all.

4:08 PM

@Sekhemty just personal opinion, lack of understanding of the works, explicit statement of "no books"

Sekhemty

I understand; probably it could have been written in a better way, but it offered an interesting cue

If it says "no books" I don't like it. If don't understand people who can't appreciate the source material

@Aegon is Little Sam the son of Sam and Gilly or Craster and Gilly?

@Narusan they can be found dotted around the internet. I found an archive once but that's lost to me

4:50 PM

@TheLethalCoder 1) have you never been in TREU? 2) 15 upvotes and not a single green +10, look I did an answer for the sake of knowledge

6:15 PM

@Sekhemty well met. It seems the HNQ has decided to thwart me again and place me second.

Sekhemty

10:27 PM

@Edlothiad pardon my ignorance, what does HNQ means?