Raiders of the Lost Downboat

6:29 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (61): How to see the Video Card Temperature (Nvidia, ATI, Intel...) by Chris Wulff on askubuntu.com

Algnis

7:03 AM

askubuntu.com/q/1377998/1460940. Can you move the comments to a chat? @Zanna

Zanna

7:51 AM

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@Algnis no need, the comments are no longer needed, so I deleted them

what was all that you wrote in comments on OP's answer about "giving credit"? Others should give credit to you by deleting their useful answers? That's not what I meant when I said giving credit was nice (also I don't recall getting any credit from you for my Bash function hahaha)

@Algnis if OP writes an answer saying exactly what they did, it's terrible to ask them to delete it

please don't do that

if they copy and paste your answer then it can be deleted

but in that case OP posted a valuable and detailed account of their steps

you asked them to give credit to you, but not to the author of the answer you asked them to follow and you yourself did not give credit to the author of that answer

I am not very impressed

Algnis

8:10 AM

I am sorry for that

I shouldn't have recommended deletion

But though I spent an hour just on it and I was so frustrated

Zanna

what was frustrating?

Algnis

Seating in front of screen for hours waiting for reply

Zanna

You know, it's entirely your choice to engage with a question. You really don't have to sit there waiting for someone else to reply. You are free to do whatever else you want to do.

Algnis

@Zanna yeah, but I wanted to help that as I felt like I was correct with that solution

Zanna

in any case, it's not the other person's fault that you're frustrated by their slowness. We might be keenly glued to AU all day long, but other people have other stuff to do

Algnis

8:16 AM

What do you mean by I didn't give you any credit? Haven't I said thanks? Where do you want me to give your credit

Zanna

I understand it can be difficult to be patient, but this kind of thing happens verrrrry often. So patience is an essential learning here

Algnis

@Zanna I know, also I am really patient about reaching to 1K

Zanna

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@Algnis I'm just joking around, but you were being so secretive about some question you wanted to answer using the code you were asking for... If other people helped you write an answer, you can give them credit in the answer

Algnis

@Zanna Haha the question wasn't on any SE ate

Zanna

see for example this answer of mine

and also the last revision here - this is giving credit

Algnis

8:22 AM

@Zanna I wasn't knowing that you also ask questions and give answers (LOL Don't take it seriously please)

Zanna

9:18 AM

it has been known to occur

Algnis

@Zanna Are you aswering my question in Islands of whatever

Zanna

no... I try not to be that confusing... I was responding to your immediately preceding remark

as in, me making posts on AU has been known to occur

Algnis

I was just talking that nowadays I don't see you answering much

Zanna

yes... I mean it has been known to occur, possibly in the ancient mists of time

Natty

9:46 AM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] backup How can I backup my system to an USB stick? By: Robert 6.0;

[ Natty | Sentinel ] 20.04 How do you pin elements per favorite in Ubuntu dock? By: B3ns44d 5.5;

[ Natty | Sentinel ] server Why are my LDAP logins slow? By: Gadi 3.5;

Natty

10:41 AM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] output Ubuntu 21.04 dummy output By: Unknown 6.5;

Algnis

11:13 AM

@Natty tp

@Natty I am not sure if I have to flag it as spam or not @Zanna

@Natty ne

Zanna

11:27 AM

@Algnis seems to be a link only answer, which should be flagged as not an answer, not as spam

@Natty fp

Natty

Invalidated the previous feedback on askubuntu.com/a/1378026

Zanna

@Natty fp

Natty

Invalidated the previous feedback on askubuntu.com/a/1378031

Zanna

@Algnis "ne" means "needs edit" - if the answer is okay even without editing, reply "fp"

although to be fair I really have no grasp of when "ne" should be used... maybe whenever the post could possibly benefit from an edit... that doesn't really make sense to me, but I may be totally wrong

Algnis

12:03 PM

Why is this yellow

Zanna

I can't see anything yellow there

can you describe what part of the picture you mean?

Algnis

1:06 PM

@Zanna Q: Proper way to remove the certificate from trust list

Only that question is yellow

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] pdf Pdf Reader on Ubuntu 20.04 which has capability of choosing text and bacground color By: RODOLPHOSILVA91 4.5;

Algnis

1:24 PM

@Natty tp

Yay!!! I am finally 1k rep

I am not so happy because I didn't get many privileges

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] 20.04 Is Tor Browser installation broken? By: RODOLPHOSILVA91 5.5;

Algnis

Those privileges I got are useless!

Algnis

1:50 PM

@Natty fp

@Natty @Zanna I first edited the post and then replied fp is it ok? Or I should have first replied ne and then edit it and reply fp

@Natty Also look at a flag done by me on the post, I am not sure what kind if flags should I use and when should I use!!

@Zanna Can I ask a meta-question related to guidelines for flagging

Zanna

@Algnis oh you mean the highlighting? That's because you're following one (or more) of the tags on the question

@Algnis privileges?

@Algnis yes, it make no difference - Natty stores the version of the post it saw, which is the earliest version

@Algnis this is a thank you post - that can be flagged as not an answer

@Algnis you can, but there are already some meta posts about that

@Zanna this also means it's a good idea to click the "Sentinel" link before replying to Natty, because the post might have been edited - we should give feedback to Natty based on the version Natty saw

@Natty tp

Natty

Invalidated the previous feedback on askubuntu.com/a/1378051

Zanna

@Algnis that one was tp

thank you post is a common type of post we consider not an answer, it's tp for Natty

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Q: How do I flag correctly?

As there are many complaints about uncertainty of which flag to use for what post and even conflicting feedbacks from different moderators or established users, I would like to see some kind of official flagging checklist / decision helper / cheat sheet which can be followed by all flaggers and r...

I don't think that guide is as comprehensive as it could be

personally, I have never found the apple picture illuminating

this page of the help center is useful

it explains what we consider not an answer

Algnis

Ok @Zanna

@Zanna yes, 1k users get so dumb privileges

Like what would I even do by seeing vote counts ?

And why do I want to create rooms for specific user

Zanna

oh that's a really useful thing I think

you click the score number next to a post and you can see the up and down votes on it

Algnis

2:04 PM

That is so dumb

I wanted to have some good privileges

Like Edit, Reviews, OPen and close votes or some other

There are not so many benefits from any of the privileges I have got so far, Except comments and chat rooms

Zanna

imho, the most useful privileges come first, like being able to vote, flag and comment

Algnis

Yeah, that are the only privelliges I like so far

I wanted edit privileges

Zanna

@Algnis you've been gaining reputation very fast... don't you think that more time to learn how to edit and close would be valuable?

Algnis

Or access to some Qeues

Zanna

@Algnis that is my favourite privilege as you might imagine from my editing record hahaha

Algnis

2:08 PM

@Zanna Not so much, As editing is just improving kinda grammar stuff

Zanna

I think the number 1 editing thing needed is formatting

most people can write pretty okay, but they don't know how to use markdown

I didn't become a prolific editor until some time after I got the editing privilege

because I hadn't finished learning markdown and the style conventions of the site

Algnis

Well... In that case, other people can help (like you)... But still instant edits are kinda useful

Zanna

definitely, especially when the Suggested Edits queue is so slow

Algnis

And other stuff like queus and close and open votes

@Zanna yeah it is too slow, most of my edits take years to get accepted

Zanna

that really takes a lot of time to learn

much harder than flagging

Algnis

2:11 PM

@Zanna Well I don't think it will take me a lot of time to reach 2k hahahahah

As I am having like one of the most rep in quarter

Right?

Zanna

close votes you get at 3k

Algnis

@Zanna That is so dumb!!!!!!

Close votes are so dumb

It is same as flagging

IDK what is so good in that

Zanna

the thing is that it is difficult to do correctly

Algnis

But I hope I will reach 100K soon (before the end of this year)

Zanna

@Algnis you do know that you don't get rep for editing after that, right?

Algnis

2:15 PM

Yeah I know

I don't want that 2 rep

Zanna

:)

Algnis

I hope so at the end of this year we both reach 100K (especially you)

Zanna

this year? hahaha no chance I will reach 100k

Algnis

You will

Zanna

I have no need for more reputation

Algnis

2:16 PM

You have a full month

Yeah that is true you have literally every privilege

Zanna

but what is going to happen soon is that we are going to start getting hats

I will do my best to get a lot of hats

Algnis

???

Zanna

wait and see - soon you will know :)

it's a thing that happens in December

Algnis

Hun Can I have a brief idea ?

A thing I noticed is as I am having more rep more people are replying, communicating and up voting my answers

Zanna

5

Q: What is Winter Bash all about?

I would like to know what winter hats are all about. Do they add any reputation or badges later? I'm excited about these winter hats.

support winter-bash-2012

oh... the FAQ is giving 404

I hope that doesn't mean it's not going to happen this year

BeastOfCaerbannog

3:48 PM

@Zanna According to Natty's documentation, ne should be fed to Natty when "... the post reported by the bot is badly formatted and needs an edit." IMO this does make sense, as Natty has various reasons that it uses to decide whether to report a post or not. If a post needs to be edited and an edit alters one of these reasons (most edits do), then the post should be reported as ne.

In most cases, if I edit an answer caught by Natty, then I report it as ne. The main exception is when I edit a reported answer that only needs a typo fixed or something similarly minor.

Zanna

oh thanks! the reason list is helpful!

BeastOfCaerbannog

4:30 PM

You're welcome! :)

Natty

6:02 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] usb How to detect an USB device? By: Steve Owens 3.5;

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Dual boot Ubuntu - Mac Os Issue by AaronTheIssueGuy on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

6:38 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (40): Failed to install some audacious plugin, too little ubuntu know how by Rob on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

7:21 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer (87): Ubuntu 20.04 being hacked ✏️ by Mike on askubuntu.com

Natty

7:57 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] boot Can't boot/install 20.10 on Apple Mac Pro 2019 7,1 (PopOS neither) By: Dennis 4.0;

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