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@Natty fp but not a good answer
@Natty tp though it could be expanded
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2:39 AM
this answer recently got downvoted, although a non-answer appeared praising it
hmm
why do people think this answer is not an answer?
 
 
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[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; Unregistered User; 2.5;
 
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6:03 AM
OT Debian My solution for my Debian host was to install DPA with:...
 
 
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OT Kali According to the 4th comment OP is using Kali Linux: root@kali:~# sudo dpkg -i mysql-5.6.15-debian6.0-x86_64.deb dpkg: regarding mysql-5.6.15-debian6.0-x86_64.deb containing mysql: mysql-community-server conflicts with mysql mysql (version 5.6.15) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing archive mysql-5.6.15-debian6.0-x86_64.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing mysql.
 
@karel I can't find such comment. Did you paste wrong link?
 
@Kulfy OT Kali According to the 4th comment OP is using Kali Linux: root@kali:~# sudo dpkg -i mysql-5.6.15-debian6.0-x86_64.deb dpkg: regarding mysql-5.6.15-debian6.0-x86_64.deb containing mysql: mysql-community-server conflicts with mysql mysql (version 5.6.15) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing archive mysql-5.6.15-debian6.0-x86_64.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing mysql.
 
Voted to close.
 
7:33 AM
this question may be possible to edit into shape, but I can't myself figure out how to interpret "the stuff" in their link as a suitable question. For now it is unclear, I think
 
7:46 AM
@Zanna It's too broad. The OP wants to recreate the functionality of a pentesting Linux distribution in Ubuntu instead of simply installing its iso in a VM.
 
@karel thanks for your expert opinion :)
I removed my comment and +1 to yours. Thanks for the edit as well
 
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@Zanna I guess by not reading very far. In hindsight, maybe the edit, which expands the introductory material, wasn't good. Do you know / can you say if NAA flags were from before or after the edit?
 
both of the NAA flags were before your edit :)
It certainly seemed to be an answer when I read it before your edit, but it seemed even more answery when I read it again (because of the second flag) after your edit.
 
8:13 AM
seems not dupe since their edit -- from their phrasing I wonder if they found the answer.
 
I saw that question yesterday and the thought of someone still using Vista made me close the tab hastily
seems indeed not a dupe of that though
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): TLP 1.3.1 issue in Thinkpad T490 with ubuntu 18.04 by user2964728 on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector haha was it "euphoric"? Definitely not going to edit that out. But something needs to be done with the shorturl thing I think
 
8:22 AM
Done.
I voted to close this question as opinion based, but maybe it's really just OT "not about Ubuntu".
@Zanna Do most NAA flags on AU get handled by mods these days? Or are they mostly taken care of in the LQP queue?
 
I think they are getting handled by mods these days, although I think during some recent period before the election was scheduled they were probably getting mainly handled by the queue
some of the things in LQP queue have no flags at all - I don't know how they end up there - it clearly works differently to how I thought
 
When something goes in the queue because the system detects that it might be low quality, is there a flag from Community associated with that, or does it just enter the queue with no flag?
 
8:39 AM
I haven't been able to work it out. I have got a help page which says

There are 16 kinds of automatic flags, cast under the following circumstances:

- The post scores very low on the quality tests done when posted.
...
I don't recall seeing such a flag
 
I would love to know what all 16 kinds are! Idk if you're allowed to quote that in full length though.
 
but for sure things go into the LQP queue without anyone having flagged them
Community's auto flags have a history attached to the post
 
A history?
 
I mean, sorry, if the post has any flags, then it has a "flag history" which can be looked at. Community's flags create that, just like other users'.
 
@EliahKagan (The phrasing in this MSE question makes me think full articles from the mod-only help pages--at least some of them--shouldn't be quoted without checking. I don't wish to ask you to do something you shouldn't do. I'd hope any articles with sensitive information would proclaim that in a prominent design-integrated way, but my guess is that they don't.)
@Zanna Oh. Yeah, I figured you could see all flags from all time.
Though on reflection, I would guess there are specific circumstances where you cannot.
Like, if a post is migrated from another SE site, I am assuming you cannot see the contents of custom flags that were raised on it?
 
8:45 AM
@EliahKagan that's what it seems like
@EliahKagan I will ask someone haha
seems no reason not to share it though
@EliahKagan let me try to check
 
I guess technically that would be a different post anyway.
 
I suppose so, presumably such little attachments simply don't get copied when the new post is created
I looked at about 10 migrated-here posts and I don't see anything. Of course it's possible that mods migrated them without them being flagged, but I would think that the flag history would not be migrated (or would not be created)
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Contains Whitelisted Word - try to; Low Rep; 2.5;
 
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@Zanna You can also leave feedback on Smokey reports through the metasmoke web interface, i.e., by clicking the "MS" link and then clicking the "✓", "✗", or "💩" icon, for tp-, fp-, and naa-, respectively.
 
9:52 AM
(Or by posting messages in Charcoal HQ, of course.)
 
10:12 AM
I don't see how this is not an answer. :/
An attempt to answer the question and not a comment I feel.
 
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A: Why are there automatic moderator flags (autoflags) from the Community User, and what are they for?

Jon EricsonWhen you look at the Community user's flag history you are seeing all the flags from deleted users which are assigned to Community. But there are also 10 flag types that are generated by the system in order to bring to moderator attention situations that might be missed by a site's users. These...

this has more detail ^
@jokerdino strongly agree
 
10:30 AM
Sorry, was afk. I've just raised a custom flag on that answer to request undeletion. That way, there's no need to hurry, as it shall remain in the queue until handled by a mod. Also, that way, if it does get undeleted, my flag and its associated message (if any) will provide documentation as to the reason. My intention was not to use chat as a substitute mod flags, I just figured I'd mention it when I saw it whilst reviewing another answer on the same question.
@Zanna There are four others besides the ones listed there, though, right?
(That says there are ten, but seems to list twelve.)
@EliahKagan (In a comment there, Monica mentioned what seems to be a thirteenth.)
:54927528 Good example of a true-positive "Potentially problematic ns configuration" detection where no other detection triggered.
Oh, interesting, if I reply to a deleted message after it is deleted, it doesn't render as a reply.
 
11:07 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user (157): How to merge subtitle to video? by Sylvia Watson on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector More Joyoshare spam from a user who's spammed it before.
 
@EliahKagan destroyed the user, thanks!
@EliahKagan yes, sorry
I think the list in the mod help center is also different
scratches head
idk which, if any, are actually correct
 
lol
 
bbl :/
 
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11:46 AM
What other post is this question referring to?
 
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@EliahKagan yeah, seems nothing else caught that, even though it was totally spam
@EliahKagan maybe one of these 15 :(
 
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@Natty question is unclear
 
1:46 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in answer (1): UBUNTU 20.04 on Raspberry Pi 4/8GB, direct boot from SSD by Mosfet on askubuntu.com
 
 
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@EliahKagan ah yes, I should do that
 
@Kulfy seems like a solution
:D
 
🤔🤔
 
@Kulfy yes! Some further editing would be good - like, where is that option?
 
@Zanna In the GRUB menu, I guess.
 
3:15 PM
I undeleted it and I'm leaving it with you as I need to make parathas
@Kulfy why close the question? It will not get deleted since OP accepted their answer. For now knowing that Arch works for that device may help others. In future a less drastic solution may emerge.
just my feeling about it
 
@Kulfy I've flagged the comment there as no longer needed.
 
oops sorry
deleted it
 
@Zanna Don't we just vote to close questions as no-repro where OP finally reinstall the system or moves to another distro?
 
@Zanna sorry @Kulfy I was just joking around - obviously you are not obliged to do anything and - thanks a lot for spotting that edit!
@Kulfy depends whether the problem seems likely to be reproducible by someone else, is my idea
 
@Kulfy Is there reason to think the solution may work for other people who would describe their problem the same way? If so, then I think it's not no repro. If not, then I think it's no repro.
 
3:24 PM
If we get some less drastic solution in future, I hope we'll get a new question too. Moreover, future readers (unless there's another answer) may think that installing Arch is the only solution which IMHO is an overkill.
@Zanna I have already edited the post. Made some minor changes.
 
so, you want to delete the question?
@Kulfy thanks again :)
 
@Zanna TBH yes. Not immediately but eventually.
@Zanna Out of curiosity when you undeleted the answer, was the comment, which was generated when answer got converted to a comment, auto-deleted?
 
@Kulfy I feel the question is good. But it may be that the problem will be transient after all, hard to say
@Kulfy no, I deleted it. But I neglected to delete the comment on the answer itself
 
@Zanna Yes the question is good but I'm concerned about the way the answer be perceived in future.
@Zanna I thought undeleting the answer would automatically delete the comment.
Thanks for clarifying.
 
converting the question to an answer creates a comment. I do not think the comment knows how it was created. It is just like any other comment
 
3:31 PM
converting the question to an answer?
 
omg sorry
I meant, converting the answer to a comment
totally going to stop talking!
 
The system does automatically remove some comments that it automatically posts for us, though. At least (most) comments that are posted when we vote to close a question as a duplicate (or flag to do so, for users without the rep to VTC).
 
true, and those comments get automagically upvoted by agreeing votes
 
But those comments still appear in inbox. For example, one of my question on MSE was closed as dupe. But I still see "Does this answer your question?" in my inbox.
 
it would actually be really annoying if those comments made by converting an answer to a comment got automatically deleted when the answer got undeleted... last week there was a question where someone had posted two answers, one of which was intended as a comment, and both of which had many comments in an ongoing troubleshooting exchange between OP and the answerer. I wanted to move ALL the comments to the same chat. That was a faff, but it would have been twice as difficult if
such comments deleted themselves
 
3:40 PM
Were you able to move them all to the same chat?
@Kulfy Do normal comments disappear from your inbox when they're deleted, if you have already checked your inbox and seen them there?
 
@EliahKagan Yes.
Even when there are mutiple comments/replies on a single post, the latest one is shown after I have checked them.
 
@EliahKagan yes, I did it, I converted both answers to comments on the question along with all their comments, undeleted the one that was an answer and deleted all the comments on it, moved all the comments on the question to chat, and went into the chat to ping the answerer as they would not have got a notification otherwise
it worked, or at least they carried on talking about it after that...
 
3:58 PM
Interesting "Became Hot Network Question" 20+ times
 
all at the same moment
 
must have been a very interesting question
 
@EliahKagan one of the ones in the broom cupboard manual is "Gold tag badge users are involved in a close/reopen war on a single post." so it must have been updated some time in the not-so-distant past I guess
but one says "more than 10 edits have been performed on the post by the author", which is wrong, because that flag is raised only after 20 edits, I think
 
4:22 PM
@Zanna Some have difference in seconds.
 
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Q: Very hot network questions found

GlorfindelThe Boardgames Stack Exchange question How would an instant or sorcery with an effect that targets work with Feather? became a Hot Network Question three times, according to its timeline: All three events have the exact timestamp (19:14:39 UTC - shown when you click the 'toggle format' link or...

@Zanna Is that documentation bug reported?
Idk if bug reports in mod-only documentation are supposed to go on Meta Stack Exchange or stackoverflow.com/c/moderators. I can't search the latter, of course.
 
since an year?
 
Apparently so.
 
4:39 PM
Suprisingly, multi-line single backtick code formatting is no longer supported
 
@EliahKagan hmm no answer!
 
@Kulfy Meanwhile editor suggested triple backtick code formatting
 
rejected it, because it is not Bash
the "before" version I saw was indented, which was fine
 
When I rejected, the suggested edit was:
`multi
line
code`
And that was rendered as normal text.
Unfortunately, I closed the window
@Zanna And OP approved that
 
@Kulfy that's interesting
@Kulfy oh well
 
We must have some old posts where such code formatting was used. I'm curious to know if their cached copies are affected.
`multi
line
code`
I mean this type of code formatting.
(unrelated) dupe
@Kulfy The formatting still works unless there's are multiple line breaks.
 
@EliahKagan I found some one in the latter
I mean, I found one such bug report
not a report about the bug that I found
@Kulfy I'm sure we do, but, I would argue that such formatting was never correct
@EliahKagan seems ours is the most extreme case
 
5:48 PM
It seems so, yes.
 
6:06 PM
I VTC'd this one POB (slightly panicked seeing the pre-existing 'OT - not about Ubuntu' vote)
But on a second thought perhaps closing this against an older canonical question (or questions) would be more useful.
for example this one as the target
no longer needed, looks out of place (probably because the question was edited and perhaps some comments were deleted)
 
@Zanna Yes but I vaguely remember one of the high reputation user still prefer to use those since "the readers" doesn't have to scroll vertically to see whole command/output.
 
I saw that too... I think if it's a single long line, then that makes sense
 
6:22 PM
When I was new here, back in 2018, I formatted code using single back tick. Triple backtick formatting wasn't introduced back then and I wasn't aware of 4 space indentation.
 
6:48 PM
This is interesting. If the terminology change happens, some answers, especially the one for wireless drivers may require a revision.
 
 
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@Natty fp Borderline, but it's recommending a specific course of action, albeit contingently. The question seems unclear; see comments.
 
 
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