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Can this answer be improved? Five people upvoted it (and five people downvoted it). I don't think it's NAA.
 
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I guess this question is on-topic and should be reopened.
 
5:21 AM
@EliahKagan VTR
 
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in title, +1 more (391): What is Bandox Extreme and where to buy? by shielatorrez on askubuntu.com
 
 
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8:25 AM
seems unclear as written
 
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@EliahKagan I edited the tracked post.
 
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8:34 AM
@EliahKagan It also seems that this question is also answerable, so I answered it. As shown in the inlined screenshot the OP ran the command from the wrong directory.
 
@karel Thanks--I've retracted my close vote.
 
@EliahKagan Thanks
 
8:53 AM
@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1188079 - spam
 
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@Kulfy Thanks for reporting it to Smokey! :)
 
np :)
 
@karel Should it be closed as a duplicate of that question?
 
9:08 AM
@EliahKagan VTC. It's my mistake that I answered the duplicate question before editing my top upvoted answer to its duplicate target.
 
I can't vote to close it because I had voted to close it as unclear before and retracted that. But it should be able to get enough votes.
I suggest keeping your new answer though. It has some stuff that may help people, and it's not doing any harm.
 
@EliahKagan Up to you, though, of course.
@Kulfy Yeah spam.
 
@Kulfy I flagged it as spam
 
9:12 AM
Reported to smokey.
 
@EliahKagan An answer to a cheesy duplicate question like that isn't worth 15 points.
 
I wasn't thinking of the rep aspect. But I understand--if you think it's not helping, or prefer users be more swiftly redirected to the main question for it, then deletion makes sense.
 
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9:43 AM
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, +1 more (393): Evoelite Keto *https dragonsdenketo com/evoelite-keto/* by hadeke on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, +1 more (393): Evoelite Keto *https dragonsdenketo com/evoelite-keto/* by hadeke on askubuntu.com
 
10:57 AM
Is this (deleted) answer worth expanding?
 
12:18 PM
no improvement whatsoever - it's part of a flurry of edits adding useless code formatting to things that aren't at all code-like, so I've rejected it with a custom message:
> Code formatting is for code and for things that are like code, such as filenames, exact package names, and text copied from a terminal.
But the stock no improvement reason would have been fine. Or a reject and edit review, removing the entire last paragraph (rather than just the last sentence), might be reasonable.
It needs at least one more review.
Are users notified of their rejected edits, except in the situation when they have so many that the system temporarily bans them from suggesting edits?
 
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^^ Though better expanded than deleted.
 
1:19 PM
@EliahKagan From my recent experience, no. The users must manually check the status of their suggestions.
 
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I think this answer is deletable, though I have not flagged it as NAA
 
4:57 PM
Deleted.
^^ Also, both its answers are NAA.
 
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I don't think we have to wait 48 hours to delete this off-topic macOS question. (FileVault is macOS-specific, so the OP is doing this in macOS, so it's highly unlikely any edit could make it appropriate for reopening here.)
 
5:20 PM
 
Given the potentially valuable answer, can this question reasonably be edited to a point where people would be comfortable considering it on-topic? (I am not sure if such an edit is reasonable or not.)
Actually I guess migration would be better?
 
yes!
 
Do you want to custom flag or should I?
I think Unix & Linux is the best place for it to go.
 
all the flags I have ever raised requesting migration have been declined as far as I recall!
is this question answerable or does it need to give more information?
 
@Zanna Hmm.
@Zanna I don't know.
 
5:27 PM
me neither :(
 
How do chat pings work if a user leaves a room, changes their name, and hasn't come back into the room, but was recently there?
Like, what name do I use?
 
hmm the one that gets successfully tab-completed?
 
[unrelated] I feel closing this as no-repro would be the reasonable. OP mentioned many things (apparently there were many changes and updates going on) in the body and comments, but those sound quite unclear and seem to be based mostly on wrong presumptions to me. The issue got fixed after a reboot anyway. I feel asking OP to post a self-answer would not be productive as it won't be very useful for future readers.
 
@Zanna nm, I'm commenting on the question rather than asking in chat. That will make the people who are most invested/interested get to see it, including the asker and answerer.
 
@EliahKagan :) seems good
 
5:31 PM
@Zanna I've commented.
Oh, that's what you were talking about. :)
Quick, edit your message to reply to my message that I posted after it! :) :)
@pomsky Yes, I've VTC'd. If an explanation becomes apparent, which unfortunately seems somewhat unlikely, it can be reopened.
 
@EliahKagan damn, I was too busy being a nosy parker trying to figure out who had changed their name. Instant karma
 
6:01 PM
^^ I've commented (since it's my question after all).
 
6:35 PM
I posted about this question earlier, but I still haven't decided whether or not I should try pinging some of the comment-answerers
 
I'm looking at your earlier messages...
@Zanna ...based on the timeframe the OP gave, I somewhat doubt that answer explains it.
I don't think most of the commented explanations are very plausible or worth making into answers (or even worth mentioning in an answer). The exception is that one, which I'd consider non-NAA as written if posted as an answer, and which if expanded could be a good answer.
I can think of other questions to ask but I'm not sure it makes sense to do so.
But it's odd nobody suggested looking at shell history.
Also it's odd nobody suggested the possibility that something other than the drive itself in the computer may have been loosened or damaged.
Like, people thought of dust going into the hard drive and causing data loss, but not, like, a loose cable connection being further weakened by the air from the vacuum cleaner.
I feel like that question might've gotten a better response had it initially been posted on Super User.
 
^^ That might be an answer of its own, due to the Fn-Z part.
 
@EliahKagan yes, I also think the answer is wrong, and if I were to decide to vote on it, I would downvote it
 
I think it might be best to close the question.
A general answer to the question of where missing files might have gone would be hard.
But I am not sure.
I don't feel any deep need to vote to close it hastily.
 
6:51 PM
@EliahKagan hmm yes
 
(unrelated) I am confused by the combination of this comment and that comment.
 
@EliahKagan yes, but maybe the details narrow it down enough for it not to be tooooo broad
 
@Zanna Do they? Like, do we know it's not from a bind mount?
There's no indication it is, but there's nothing to say it's not. No information from the Ubuntu system seems to have been provided at any point, except that PhotoRec or TestDisk (which might have been run from an Ubuntu system) worked.
So, I don't like that comment of mine. I think I should remove it. It doesn't cite policy, for one.
 
@EliahKagan I don't know. Maybe nothing can be done to improve the situation with this question
 
@Zanna Like, not even closing it would improve the situation?
Or like, it should be closed?
 
6:59 PM
I mean, maybe we should do nothing and hope the question someday gets answered
after all we don't ourselves have to do everything that should be done on Ask Ubuntu
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but I am not advocating that
I am saying "maybe we should do nothing" hoping someone will suggest something better haha
I think, probably, we should close it, if it doesn't have enough information for a good answer
 
@EliahKagan I've replaced that comment with a new comment. I didn't manage to fit a link to meta posts in this one either, but I think this one may be more helpful.
@ByteCommander (unrelated) Hi! I'm not sure what the current best practice is for requesting migrations. I thought of asking on meta, but since you've just reentered to this room (I think)...
If I belive a question should be migrated, should I custom flag it? Often people (including me) would ping terdon in AUGR about possible migrations to U&L since he mods both sites--but he's suspended his moderation activities, I believe, both here and there, so I don't think that's currently the best way.
(sorry about the self-grammar-correcting pings)
 
Custom flag is the "official" way, but depending on the queue size and average mod motivation, it can take a few days for these "more complex" flags to get reviewed and processed.
I'll take a quick look.
Oh, and hi :)
 
7:15 PM
:)
 
That was an unexpectedly anxiety causing-day. Sorry for being grumpy.
 
Hmm, I don't have a strong opinion about this one. Although probably I'd even lean towards reopening here, especially as the answer is basically addressing Kubuntu anyway, assuming there is no difference.
Just like we sometimes edit out mentions of e.g. Mint or Debian if the actual problem is unrelated to that and applies to on-topic Ubuntu flavors too.
But as I said, I don't have a particularly strong opinion about this, so better just custom-flag and wait, proposing maybe both those options.
My day wasn't exactly great either and I actually just "joined" this room because the tab was still open when I resumed my home laptop... :-/ so, please excuse me for not being more helpful right now.
 
@ByteCommander Okay, sounds good. Thanks for looking at it! I may wait a bit to see if the OP weighs in. Also if people end up editing the question and casting reopen votes then that might move things in that direction. I'll try to flag in the next day or so unless some reason not to becomes apparent.
 
7:25 PM
alright.
 
@ByteCommander No worries--and sorry for bugging you about it!
 
It's okay, no problem so far. I just don't feel like digging deeper right now.
 
@ByteCommander but I don't think we should do that
 
@ByteCommander Absolutely. I basically don't want to just yet either... and I'm the one who brought it up.
@Zanna I've not observed grumpiness. (I'm not trying to insist you're not grumpy or anything, only that I've been oblivious to it... so it hasn't bothered me.)
 
@EliahKagan :) that's great
 
7:36 PM
OT bug (could be no repro, but I think that doesn't fit quite as well)
 
7:51 PM
@EliahKagan Why is this a bug? I mean it could be, but shouldn't there be a comment about it or an edit from the OP mentioning that they've found out that it's a bug?
 
If the OP is correct that the problem is due to a memory leak, that's a bug. Either way, the second paragraph of the question is a straightforward description of a bug. It's imaginably possible that something other than a bug caused that, but it seems unlikely.
That's my reasoning, anyway.
 
OK, thanks. I just wanted to know how you think in cases like this so that I know what to do if I find something similar in the future.
 
Well, I think there might be considerable disagreement about when something qualifies to be closed as OT bug.
 
8:07 PM
That's true, but as I'm relatively new, I like to see the reasoning behind flagging a post like this, which is not very obvious that it's a bug, unlike as most other cases I've seen. Combined with other discussions here, I can get to judge better.
 
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^^rude
 
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