@Kulfy (and others) Do you have Unity? If yes, could you please check whether this answer is valid/useful for this specific question (refer to my comment below the answer)?
There's no need. But if you do end up looking, and if you end up finding any that you think I should look at, you can let me know. That would be on-topic for the Downboat (or of course AUGR) I think. I should possibly have asked you there instead of here. :)
[unrelated] Although this one starts with "I had the same problem, it looks like a valid and pretty good answer to me.Points out a quirk in Ubuntu Touch password/pin implementation.
@Zanna I think I do agree that for that particular topic that the Island is also okay. But I'm inclined to think of the scope of the Island as everything except what's on-topic for (and not overly long technical for) the Downboat. I guess it's not all that important when it comes to discussing questions I want to answer.
But I feel anything moderation-related is best discussed in a less obscure place visited by people who take interest, visited from time to time by moderators, linked from a few places in meta, etc. My feeling is that this protects everyone, in that it safeguards against both more and less well founded worries that would otherwise arise regarding transparency in systematically exercising and coordinating the exercise of rep-conferred privileges.
This room is public, and I imagine far more people read what we say here than we tend to imagine, but I don't think it gets the attention of more than a few active users.
when you asked if any of the questions needed attention, I thought "I will look for them and resume the conversation in the Downboat" because posts needing attention is our work over there
@Zanna This is also one of the reasons I'm so pleased this room was created. By moving stuff that has little to nothing to do with moderation out of the Downboat, the discussions about moderation are made more legible and accessible to people who are interested in them.
@Zanna Indeed. :)
Actually I would like to move even these messages to the Downboat (the ones that are on-topic for it, not the ones above relating to Python code and usage). There's no hurry; I'll do it in my usual lazy taking-my-sweet-time way that helps me avoid doing it wrong. :) I'll do that at some point, if you have no objection. I have no problem continuing this line of conversation here for now, though.
@EliahKagan :) I feel this is very important, but sometimes I have the feeling that other people find my concern to keep the Downboat clear of non-moderation things overly finicky
@EliahKagan sure, taking time is good. I should do more of that... I mostly either do things too hastily or not at all D:
@pomsky I couldn't quite understand the question or the answer, but I have flagged the comment as I feel confident that answer is not intended to be, and should not be, a separate question
hahaha we had to hmm a lot to keep this room from freezing in your absence :D
That's funny since, except for the (sometimes) high volume of messages, almost everything here would be on-topic for AUGR.
^^ And for the edification of future readers, by "here" I mean the Island, in case those messages are included in the ones that get moved to the Downboat. :)
Volume is significant, though.
Like, 100% of everything on-topic for the Downboat is on-topic for AUGR. But I don't need to speculate to say people wouldn't want it all there. We accepted messages from Smokey in the Downboat after people decided they didn't want them anymore in AUGR.
That was also the time I was starting to use the site regularly, so I was not aware of the existence of tricks like closing against multiple targets, editing target list after closure etc. So I am the one responsible for snatching your voting rights in this case, sorry about it :( (cc@Zanna)
@EliahKagan Yes, I advocated for reopening the question at the time as it was closed against one that solves only half the issues raised in the question (only workspace isolation, but not changing alt-tab to window-switcher from app-switcher).
This is not a duplicate. In this question OP is asking to migrate from Elementary to Ubuntu's latest version without loosing any data. OTOH the target question had some PPAs that installed elemetaryOS things.
IMO they are completely different. And the earlier one should be opened and closed as OT.
If it's entirely clear that it's off-topic then deletion could be acceptable in lieu of reopening and reclosing it. But in case people think it's on-topic, maybe it would be best to reopen it. What do you think?
I don't think this question is no repro. It's asking what could cause a very specific message to be shown, not asking how to fix it and then reporting that it was mysteriously fixed and no longer needs to be investigated. If someone knows it doesn't have enough information to be answered, then specific information should be requested in comments and it can be closed as unclear. Otherwise I think it's better left open.
@Kulfy I would not remove that, because it is helpful. The only argument I can think of for removing it is that people might get the wrong idea about the site format. I have decided this is a weak reason to make visitors dig around or load more pages to get the answer. So if people have left the otherwise-hard-to-find solution in their duped question I usually just leave it. The command is in the accepted answer, and an answer to the target, but most of the other info there is out of date
Yeah, that's NAA, because it has only a link to the proposed solution. Without the link, it doesn't provide an answer. I do think it looks like we can close the question as a duplicate of the linked question, though.
Newer versions of APT commands that previously first treated * as part of a regular expression now treat it as part of a glob and are safer, I believe.
yes you can definitely question moderation on Ask Ubuntu
maybe it was misleading or confusing of me to say we are discussing moderation. I mean that in the sense that this page says Ask Ubuntu is moderated by you, that is, by its community, although there are diamond moderators who have extra powers.
moderation activities are things like voting up and down, editing, reviewing, voting to close, voting to delete
you will have noticed that Stack Exchange is gameified, that is you can ask and answer questions and you get what some might call meaningless internet points and suchlike for doing so
in fact the privileges you get as you accumulate these not-entirely-meaningless internet points are mostly ways you can participate in moderation
the people who hang out in this room, for some reason, choose to spend some of their time doing moderation stuff. Some actual real diamond moderators lurk here and even occasionally speak, but the chatterboxes here are non-mods. At least two of them are non-human.
Yes, not being able to comment and only answer can be frustrating on all the stack exchange subsections.
I sometimes want to ask questions of the original poster in order to get a better understanding of the problem before giving a full answer but am unable to do so.
@ITGremlin to work towards improving the post they are on, ideally. Things like asking for clarification, suggesting useful changes, pointing out issues that can't really be fixed by editing...
but in the end comments get used for many things
communicating turns out to be really important haha
@ITGremlin well, the main "misuse" is people answering in the comments. See this meta post. Anything that should be in a post instead, or that is not constructive
@ITGremlin oh haha I'm glad I put those links there. I agree that chat is hard to find. I have the SE chat rooms I use as pinned tabs. Otherwise I wouldn't find them. I don't know why it's tucked away like that.
I don't understand what you mean. It's an answer. We don't want the answer to suggest chmod 777. The author says "I changed it to 755 and it worked". Maybe they changed it to 777 and it worked, but they should have changed it to 755 and not 777
if it was a question, I wouldn't edit it, but it's an answer...
@Kulfy so, the way I see it, we could assume they really meant to write chmod 777 and downvote the answer and comment that they should never give such permissions, or we could just give the benefit of the doubt and correct it with an edit...
