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5:33 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: allhealthysupplements.com/andro-plus-male-enhancement/ by nora kilback on askubuntu.com
 
5:58 AM
also wrong, though less severely so.
 
6:28 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Em um comandante, a natureza da by Otive1933 on askubuntu.com
 
7:19 AM
This question is no longer in the CV queue, but I fear it may still be wrongly closed. We should check back. (See my comment.)
I VTC'd this, but was that right? Now I wonder if the linked solution is really close enough to their description. I don't want to reopen it, but should I be asking the OP something?
I don't think that this question is too broad. For a novice, the advice in the comment is almost impossible to follow, and an answer that briefly addresses all the errors would help others, as it would be an example of how to recognize separate errors as separate. Assuming, that is, that they do turn out to be as separate as they first appear. To convince a reviewer who is being careful that they should VTC that, one would almost have to answer it.
* separate APT errors. There is, of course, no general reusable way to show how to read diagnostics issued by arbitrary programs.
Should this question really be closed? If so, can someone who understands why post a comment to help the OP understand it?
 
7:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Grade A CBD best reviews before 2018.? by Grade A CBD on askubuntu.com
 
good morning
 
8:22 AM
@EliahKagan @Zanna I actually posted askubuntu.com/q/984801/507051 as a canonical question for the topic because askubuntu.com/q/101587/507051, askubuntu.com/q/516772/507051 and many many others don't tell the whole story – the one you marked as a duplicate now for example doesn't mention files (yes of course that's the same, but how should people know that if the question doesn't mention that?) and misses a complete answer listing and explaining all three ways of quoting.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Distorted headphone sound when using Skype for Linux by Carment on askubuntu.com
 
Plus it doesn't account for ? * – again, of course it's not different, but how should people know if we don't have a question explaining that? I could add a section with a list of characters that have a special meaning for bash though – would that be useful in this context?
 
8:39 AM
@SmokeDetector thats spam!
 
By the way, how does this room work? Is there a tour for this? ;)
 
Since im a junjor in here and not very good at explaining i'd like to refer you to our tour guide @EliahKagan
ducks
:)
 
there isn't a tour, but before @Videonauth started abusing the starwall it had some informative stuff on it :P
 
awwwwwwww, and now I'am to blame, ok serves me right :P
 
@dessert I was going to edit the banner to add some more dupes
 
8:54 AM
@Zanna Well shouldn't be the one explaining the most usercases the dupe target?
 
just kidding... but you seem to star stuff you agree with, which I personally think is not how to use the starwall haha
 
this is btw how the starwall looks for me ;)
as you see not a single star came from me :)
 
:O
 
btw as room owners you could simply pin star posts
 
8:55 AM
I apologise unreservedly
I assumed it was you because this seemed to happen only after you started hanging out in the room
@Videonauth I do pin them, but the pins expire eventually
 
no i tried to be as neutral as possible
i had a pin stay over a year in my help box untill i removed it by hand
 
I don't know about neutrality, but the stuff on there is not helpful as it's not very meaningful out of context
well pins here do not last that long
 
Well there's chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/3877/… for older starred messages…
 
anyway, before @EliahKagan recently started hangout out in this room again, since it was unfrozen, it was being used mainly to do a specific cleanup project
 
Jun 25 at 10:43, by Zanna
I want a hat
 
8:59 AM
the pinned messages related to that
 
Jun 16 at 10:04, by Zanna
The world is evolving, from imperfection towards perfection | It needs all love and sympathy | Great tenderness and watchfulness is required from each one of us
 
@dessert I know they are saved, they are just not currently on the wall
 
i just starred the one pointing to the meta post
its now showing on the starwalls bottom for me
 
@Zanna but now this room seems not to be used mainly for that, but for anything to do with moderation. There isn't really a how-it-works
 
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Q: Cleanup Project using SEDE Query

ZannaWhat’s this post about? We are a group of people who are doing some cleanup work. Currently, we are using an SEDE Query that finds unanswered1 questions with answers by the OP. From a cleanup perspective, these are "low hanging fruit", since there is a better than average degree of certainty tha...

 
9:10 AM
@Zanna So you really think the dupe direction is correct this way? I'm a bit confused… After all we have a(nother) dupe chain now: askubuntu.com/q/516772/507051askubuntu.com/q/984801/507051askubuntu.com/q/101587/507051
I'm off, see you later!
 
@EliahKagan in the target "enter" means go into, but in dessert's question "enter" means type the name, like in this question
@dessert later :)
 
@Zanna My English is awful, of course you can change the title!
 
@dessert hmm I don't think there is anything wrong with your title or with your English
 
9:32 AM
This: "Thank you for reviewing 20 close votes today; come back in 14 hours to continue reviewing." is the most relieving sentence i read every day.
 
9:44 AM
↑↓↑↓←→←→BA
 
@EliahKagan I tagged it with and voted to leave open
 
 
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11:17 AM
@EliahKagan answered, but I am not sure I took the right approach :S
 
sad askubuntu.com/q/984307 got hit with a close and seems not to get enough reopen votes
 
11:40 AM
@Videonauth you're right :(
 
seems no one seen my comment on it tho
 
12:01 PM
@EliahKagan why did you choose the way you chose?
 
 
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3:44 PM
@dessert It seems to me that new answers on the one that has, for some time, been our de-facto canonical question about this would be sufficient for that. In such cases, you may want to post on meta to see if people really want to change the master question to your new one. (If people do, then this is also a way to get reopen votes.)
Besides that, my concern about closing the others as duplicates of the question you have recently posted is that this is an area where short, simple answers are very valuable. Most cases of quoting are simple, and it would be bad if people who are new to shells got the impression that quoting was a complicated matter that they should put off but eventually get around to learning.
Speaking personally, I often post very long answers, but I recognize the value of short ones -- even very short ones.
@dessert It seems to me that it could be valuable to include that, though if you're trying to get your Q&A to be welcomed as the replacement for one that has a very short answer, then making your more complicated might not help that. Either way, the current canonical question is pretty quite general--at least as far as covering special characters is concerned--because it asks about special characters in general and shows three of them (space, (, and )).
One thing I don't like about that older question's answers, though, is that they wrongly imply that , is a character that needs quoting, and show \,. It's acceptable to have \,--I think--but it's quite unnecessary, and often it's much easier to understand a command when , isn't needlessly escaped. For example, awk -F, is easier to understand than awk -F\,.
One reason it might be good to have a section about that is that there is a lot of confusion and wrong information about which characters that the shell treats specially in some contexts require quoting at all, and in what contexts. For example, this answer says that ! is expanded in " " because ! is a reserved word. But that's totally unrelated to the reason it is expanded, and other reserved words are not treated specially in double quotes.
But I think your answer might already cover that adequately. It might help to say more, or it might not... either way, your answer is not in any way deficient, as far as I can tell.
@EliahKagan Sorry for forcing you to read my failures of copyediting in that message, which I can no longer edit. (Yours more complicated.) (Pretty quite general.)
@Zanna Can some of them be re-pinned?
@Zanna Right. But they would still be duplicates if one said "go into" and the other said "type the name," right? They're asking how to write commands that specify a particular path that requires quoting. Or do you mean that it's a problem that one of them is written in a way that makes it seem specific to directories?
@Zanna Thanks for commenting. What you said there was way better and more insightful than what I said here.
I knew it didn't make sense to close it as too broad, but I hadn't really thought through how the main reason is that they would likely be asked to clarify any less "broad" post by turning it into what they already have, nor had I realized that they really do have the same general cause.
@Videonauth Is that because it means the queue hasn't gotten hugely full, causing it to double to 40?
 
4:16 PM
@EliahKagan No because it means I am done with it for another day :D
CVQ feels like a never ending chore for me
 
@Videonauth You're not actually obligated to review 20 close votes per day.
 
so I#m always relieved when I'm done with it
 
@EliahKagan I am not sure they are still relevant. I have rewritten and repinned them several times in the past, but I have not done that recently, because now this room is being used differently :)
 
to come back and see a stack of xxxx, no way i like t keep that stack down
 
@Videonauth Similarly, you can even go beyond that and find questions to close in the 10k tools. But you don't have to do that, either.
@Zanna Oh.
I hope I am not preventing the Trello-organized cleanup project from continuing.
 
4:20 PM
@Videonauth you really don't have to do it! (to needlessly echo Eliah Kagan). Don't burn yourself out
 
@Zanna Either way seemed okay. They both had similar view counts. The other way had been tried before and people apparently didn't want it. Plus, it was newer-to-older... which isn't at all necessary, but may as well be done when there's no deciding factor.
 
@EliahKagan not at all :) it is continuing and I am happy we are doing more useful stuff in here :)
 
@Zanna Closed.
@Zanna Ah. Excellent, then!
 
Thanks :)
For closing I mean.
 
Yes, that's what I understood you to mean.
I should really start doing some stuff in that, though, since it would give me the experience necessary to figure out if using Trello for questions that might need CW answers (as we had discussed) is something that I would want to do.
 
4:25 PM
@EliahKagan well, the fact that one is written as though it's specific to directories is the only reason I think it might be argued that dessert's Q is not a duplicate. I agree very much with your point about simplicity of answers. The top answer to the target seems to have a good, concise explanation
@EliahKagan :) :)
 
@Zanna oh no i wont burn myself out if i not feel like doing it i simply don'T do it
 
@EliahKagan feel free to join in or not join in with it :) you are participating inadvertently since I keep posting about the query questions in here
Back later \o
 
@Videonauth I like this advertisement, lol
 
5:12 PM
trying the whole day to wrap my head around an analyzing function for the sourcelist tool im coding at
especially how to catch doubles
 
5:51 PM
thanks for correcting my answer @EliahKagan! oops :S
 
6:17 PM
This question seems like it is specifically asking how to code something up in Fortran, which I think is outside our scope.
 
voted to close
 
wrong canned comment (It was just as wrong before my edit, too.)
But is my edit there actually correct? Can the keyring password be different, even if the OP doesn't remember entering it?
 
I think you interpreted the answer correctly
 
@EliahKagan looks good
 
but I am not sure that the keyring password must be the same... I seem to think there is another dupe target for that question, but I may be thinking of something else
 
6:29 PM
they keyring password is not necessarily the same, but usually it is, but can be changed
 
I think this question is unclear until more information is given, though maybe I am mistaken and the model info in the title is enough. This is NAA because it's trying to request information, but I forgot to click to post that canned comment.
I don't have AutoReviewComments in the browser I'm in either; since it needs more reviews anyway, I figure someone else (someone here?) can post it.
 
@Zanna in fact I am not at all sure about the current targets... they don't say they are getting that message on startup - it seems like it occurs when they try to access the internet
in its current state I would vote to delete that question
 
6:50 PM
@Zanna If you mean that question, it's only about 13 hours old. The OP may give more information based on the duplicates. I wouldn't try to delete it yet, even if its score drops low enough that we can.
@Videonauth Thanks.
 
Oh yes, I don't mean immediately. I have favourited it so that I will eventually check back and vote to delete it if it can't be fixed
 
@EliahKagan got my CV already
omg big wall of text with a gibberish self answer mhmmm
@EliahKagan this whole would need a complete make over but the answer, well i could not make any sense out of it
first and foremost no sense in terms of why is the nvidia card the culprit now? :D
 
7:07 PM
@EliahKagan On finishing the answer I realized that it is quite long and added a tl;dr section on top of it, I think that's a good way to both provide a short “that's how it's done” as well as the long “that's what's good to know about it”. A meta question is a good suggestion, thanks for the explanation!
 
7:46 PM
 
@Zanna “OT”! That's the abbreviation I was searching for, the one that can mean “off-topic” as well as the exact opposite! :)
 
haha yes hopefully the context makes it unambiguous here
 
@Zanna Of course it does, but still – I once read a comment war on a question about whether it was OT or actually OT and everybody got confused. ^^
 
It's a Janus abbreviation‌​!
@dessert Ha!
I suggest using it only to mean "off-topic," and rarely if ever in comments or meta posts (i.e., in chat but not usually on the main or meta sites).
Though we could start using it with both meanings here. Like, to say a question that people wrongly thought was about Mint should be reopened: OT Ubuntu
 
How about OT vs. OnT?
 
7:57 PM
That seems like a more serious and also correct suggestion than "OT Ubuntu." :)
 
When you use on-topic you want to stress the “on” anyway…
 
Indeed.
Or... we could use ÔT for on-topic and ÖT for off-topic. Because the circumflex is like a roof so it belongs under our roof, while the separate dots of the umlaut represent separate scopes.
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haha :)
this question has a lot of mixed anonymous feedback (enter 684415)
I mention it because it's been suggested as a dupe target for this question
 
Would that duplication be correct? I am unsure.
 
9:00 PM
sorry! I had to watch Blue Planet II :)
I am unsure too
I am voting to leave open
 
 
1 hour later…
10:08 PM
I don't think this question should be closed as a dupe of that general one....
 
11:00 PM
what do they mean by "I have a deploy user"?
I voted for the dupe, but it was me who added
 

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