I'm still no comfortable with the fact that purely history question are allowed here on this site when there's a full blown SE site (History) for that.
I was wondering, why did Yazid order his soldiers to kill Imam Hussien (May Allah be pleased with him)?
Did he not know that Imam Hussain (May Allah be pleased with him) was actually the grandson of the Prophet (Peace and blessings be upon him)?
As Robert explains in this post, we're trying to forge a Q&A site about Islam (the religion) rather than about subjects of interest to Muslims (the people).
As for Islamic history, it seems to be a bit less defined how much of it would be "about Islam (the religion)". Obviously there have been ...
I asked http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/481/do-women-get-half-in-inheritance-than-men-do
This question stayed for quite some time but then some users closed it and I finally a moderator deleted the question altogether. I wonder, if this is such a complicated question that cannot be answ...
I asked http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/481/do-women-get-half-in-inheritance-than-men-do
This question stayed for quite some time but then some users closed it and I finally a moderator deleted the question altogether. I wonder, if this is such a complicated question that cannot be answ...
off topic question stays but on topic gets deleted lol
Well lets hope someone answer it
I am willing to improve it. But ppl generally are more interested in closing and deleting questions which might show negative aspect of Islam. I dont see anything wrong here myself
why didn't you bring this issue up on meta over a year ago when it was closed and everyone could actually see the question and possibly provide constructive criticism?
@BleedingFingers could you please tell me exactly which part of my answer to "Did Yazid order his soldiers to kill Imam Hussain?" made you think this answer contains plagiarized? I can prove that answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080227060054AAE15gQ and imamhusain14.blogspot.com/2011_12_01_archive.html. contains plagiarized contents and my answer contains a summary of the main reference.
@MohammadHossein search the following on the search engine of your choice you'll get to know
"he avenged the death of his elders and near relatives who were killed in the battles of Hunain, Badr, and Uhud by killing the sons of the Prophet"
"It is written in Tzkiratul Khawas of Sibt Ibn Jauzi, page 148 that when the Prophet descendants were brought as prisoners to Syria, Yazid said the the"
Plus it would be better you state where exactly you got those quotes from
e.g. you most probably got "It is this world alone for us. There is no other world. We should not be deprived of the pleasures of this world" from ahlulbayt-academy.org/…
fix these and your answer shall most probably be undeleted
@BleedingFingers Thanks for your response but did you yourself searched the above senteces? I tried and none of the findings matches except the one which is written by me. I really wonder your case! Try it. for the first sentence (he avenged the death of his elders...) only one result (Islam.estackexchange) was found and for the second one (It is written in Tzkiratul Khawas of Sibt Ibn Jauzi...) other similar but not the same results were found. Please be careful before accusation. Plus I never entered ahlulbayt-academy.org as much as I remeber and I had other sources using which I presen…
@BleedingFingers Salam, I checked and this answer has no plagiarized content. the comments saying it has plagiarized content is wrong and misunderstanding. please yourself check for plagiarized content.
I searched those sentences you quoted and it had no result in google unless this site.
please mention exactly what part is copied from what source.
@BattleofKarbala Plagiarism is more involved than "can be easily found on google". I checked that post myself, and confirmed that plagiarised content was present.
Good chunks of the post looked like it was just taking the original phrasings and changing a few words around so it was no longer a direct quote. That's as much plagiarism as ripping the page verbatim.
don't pass off other people's work as your own. if you didn't do the research, if you don't understand the issue, don't act as if you did and/or do.
if some scholar went through the effort of gathering a list of hadiths and coming to a particular conclusion, make sure that you mention that he is the expert, not you.
if the only expertise you're able to offer on a topic is "According to such-and-such scholar, this is what happened..." then that's all your answer should indicate. don't try to duplicate his research.
if you can't understand an issue well enough to put it in your own words, then you probably shouldn't be writing an answer on that issue.
if someone asks you to clarify a point you made, you should be able to clarify it. if someone offers constructive criticism to a post you made, you should be able to judge and apply it.
if you're just trying to duplicate someone else's research without even understanding it, that's basically fraud.
if your expertise in an area is just "This guy said such-and-such, so it's probably true", it's a terrible answer regardless of how much you copy from his work.
as far as I'm concerned, anyone who is unwilling or unable to apply the basic skills of critical reading/critical thinking/critical writing to a third-party text shouldn't be using that third-party text for anything on this site, period.
The problem is here that how you jump into such a conclusion; "You dont understand the issue" It is not just "This guy said such-and-such, so it's probably true", it is letting the reader based on the narrations. Then what shoould I do if an scholar have gathered narrations in his articel, should I found new ones?
it is letting the reader conclude based on the narrations
i reckon most people on this site lack enough knowledge of the hadith sciences to judge them.
are they authentic? are there stronger hadiths which contradict them? are they recorded in reliable collections? are they translated by a reliable translator? are they universally understood to mean exactly what they appear to say?
do you have any reason to believe that the person who even asked the question had enough knowledge to judge them?
if not, then they are not useful.
since you're answering his question personally.
If i was answering a question written by a Sunni, I'd be fine just quoting hadiths from Bukhari or Muslim as if they're authentic because that's what Sunni's pretty much universally believe. If i was answering a question written by a Shi'ite, I'd take more effort to establish authenticity. Context is vitally important when writing an answer.
just provide enough information to answer his question.
if quoting a wall of hadiths is necessary to answer the quesiton, chances are it's a bad question and should be closed.
if quoting a wall of hadiths is not necessary to answer the question, don't do it.
i could quote walls of hadiths in pretty much any answer i write. but i don't because it's useless and makes the actual answer harder to find.
and, as we agreed, most people lack the ability to actually make sense of those walls anyway. all it does it makes you look more experty without actually providing value.
Personally, when I quote a hadiths I'm trying to tell the questioner a fact which is reported by authenticated scholars
So I can conclude from what you said: "Only experts might ask their questions here" Because if other people do so, the answers will probably mislead them
what i was trying to say was that if you don't even understand the issue you're writing about, you can't tailor it appropriately to the audience.
if the question is asked by an expert, you can write it as to an expert.
if the question is asked by a layman, you can write it as to a layman.
or, alternatively, if a layman asks a question that can't be reasonably answered, it can be closed.
but if you don't even understand what you're talking about, rather just taking research written by someone else, you can't even judge which of those situations apply.
if the question is asking for something that you lack expertise to answer, don't answer the question until you actually have the expertise.
feel free to research the question, apply the basic skills of critical thinking/critical reading/critical writing to the existing research, and synthesize your own answer.
but don't just take someone else's work and foist it off on someone as if that's in any way useful.
this is basic academia; if you tried to steal someone else's work and present it as your own in any university worth its salt, you'd be suspended so fast it'd make your head spin.
In university I'd always been a "please exemplify" student, so for example If you reported that A said "X", so clearly believes in "this" and "that", can't I use the same reasoning besides other possible reasonings to prove that A really believes in "this" and "that"?
Thats the point, some of the historical events are so clear that mentioned expertise is not required. I don't mean feel free to answer every question. If I don't understand a fact, I can't answer it and the questioner (even a layman) will easily understand that the answer is not what he is searching for.
I was wondering, why did Yazid order his soldiers to kill Imam Hussien (May Allah be pleased with him)?
Did he not know that Imam Hussain (May Allah be pleased with him) was actually the grandson of the Prophet (Peace and blessings be upon him)?
As Robert explains in this post, we're trying to forge a Q&A site about Islam (the religion) rather than about subjects of interest to Muslims (the people).
As for Islamic history, it seems to be a bit less defined how much of it would be "about Islam (the religion)". Obviously there have been ...
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