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@jaberg yeah - I've been piling it on and NO STARS. This room is tough today...

post-election feelings

/me is slightly regretting not running....

There will be another. Meanwhile keep up the good work you're doing.

Yeah, I just don't have the time right now to take on the responsibility of a mod

I'm regretting the chilli chicken shobuj I just ate....

I'm regretting I don't have a local source for chilli chicken shobuj

Question: Do you have to edit the tag wiki, not the excerpt to get credit for the Research Assistant badge?

Oh look, I can order it online

Yeah, and weirdly that's not 10 miles from where I live....

See, they are tracking me.

LOL

I'd never heard of it before—and I eat Indian food often—so I suspected it was somehow unique to the UK.

Free internet points to anyone that can place that automator flow into a minimisable window...

That was the top result of the search.

I've no idea how local it is, but there is a whole range of "british indian" meals that are a not true indian recipes, but a mashup of what could be attempted given the limited local ingredients that the 1st gen of indian immigrants had access to. It's created a whole new genre of Indian food that you only get here, much of it is very localised

Mainly comes from the '70s and kinda stuck around even after it became possible to get authentic ingredients easily

We call that a "chimichunga" here.

Good point on the research assistant badge, I edited 25 in one day the other day

Just excerpts tho

So, does that count towards the badge??

No idea. I'll let you know when I do 25 more ;)

Look here

There should be a little badge icon in the sidebar

Bah, 0% after 27 edits to excerpts

So, the consensus would be that only editing tag wikis (not excerpts) counts towards the badge.

It is my assertion that the tag wiki entries are of little actual use by users

(not just the consensus, but the facts)

Speaking of getting out from under the all-seeing eye: Fever.

It makes us look good.

I have never looked one up

I'm opposed to anything that makes us look anything other than backwards and soft.

I imagine, without the benefit of facts to back me up, that the excerpt is the most useful thing, being as it is a useful indicator to know if you are inserting the correct tag on placing a question.

The excerpt is probably the most important thing.

The rest? A painful and often terminally dull exercise in futility

A badge.

:-)

Which reminds me, get in the tag room and spit some opinions people.

I like the fact that my badges to date have come as a delightful surprise when they arrived on my doorstep.

1) discuss the SE tag system 2) discuss our use of it

@Jason Why'd you change my title from "emoticon" to "emoji"?

@jaberg That will disappear pretty quickly.

Because that's what you're trying to see @daviesgeek

@daviesgeek that's what they are,

What they said.

See also my edit note

This is an emoticon: ;)

:) is an emoticon

@jaberg Oh, I see.

The font that makes pretty pictures is an emoji

:P too

💩 is emoji

Made common in japan by schoolgirls texting each other.

;<

It's from the Japanese for "Y U no have smiley poo icon in fone?!"

It's funnier when you can read it.

Hey does anyone have an answer for this: apple.stackexchange.com/a/38509/7833 (read the comments)?

Emoji is a combination of picture and letter.

@jaberg I see.

@daviesgeek one word - AirDrop

It create a virtual wireless interface for you to transfer files over. Effectively giving you 2 interfaces through 1 physical wifi card

not a hardware issue, not software.

Read it again.

I believe you misunderstood.

You can probably knock one up in terminal, ifconfig en0:1 plumb

Or, maybe you didn't.

in the comments you said it;s not possible due to the hardware. It is. Just config

@jaberg It doesn't explain the smiling poo tho. Nothing explains the happy dump.

@stuffe How?

@stuffe I believe that addition to the emoji lexicon was made at the request of the German members of the consortium.

/me facepalms

oh my god jaberg.

I'm not 100% sure how, but I;m saying it's not impossible even if I don;t know how.

You didn't seriously just make that reference, did you?

If this was linux I would say go into terminal (this works on mac btw) and do ifconfig -a

that lists your adapters. en0 might be your wifi, mightn't (EtherNet0)

Right...

In linux I could create a pseudo or virtual adapter by plumbing in a fresh interface

ifconfig en0:1 plumb

@stuffe Ah, I see...

sadly, that does;t work as a command line level in Mac, although it's possible to do it somehow, because it;s exactly what Airdrop does

@stuffe So the basic answer: no.

maybe because I am not admin tho

try sudo !!

"sudo !!"

I never set a root password....!

Hmm.....

Well that was silly of me.

Sudo should be keyed to the first user account creatd

Did you try it anyway?

B/c I didn't either.

sudo works for any admin user.

but the answer is yes, I'm sure it's possible, it's not a hardware limitation, but you are going to have to crack out the terminal because you can't do it easily in network preferences

@JasonSalaz That's what I thought.

VPNs do much the same thing.

What did happen, when running with sudo, daviesgeek?

I'd have to login as admin and then sudo. I run as non-admin

(Off to post this question on AD)

"invalid argument"

ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument

yeah, it needs a bit more than that

The things I'll do at @stuffe's suggestion for the benefit of @daviesgeek's education.

on OSX anyways. I think it's a bit trivial on a linux machine. Maybe.

heh

@jaberg Thanks! (I think)

I have to regain @JasonSalaz's respect somehow. (Yes, I did go there)

:P

We'll see how that goes....

Goodbye @all I have to get back to typing up my paper.

I finished it, now I have to type it.

Typing? Dude, you should use a computer.

And you guys are all distracting me!! (sarcasm)

@jaberg Huh?

I think he was making a typewriter joke.

I see.

Maybe. Who knows.

I write out my paper by hand, then I type it up.

He doesn't know from typing obviously. Whoops, that footnote went two lines. Must begin the page anew.

I get my thoughts out better.

@jaberg I do not understand that at all....

@daviesgeek Whatever works man. Stop thinking about typewriters and start typing.

Get to work. I'll explain next time.

@jaberg Yeah, otherwise it won't get done ;-)

Cya @all!

Molding and shaping young minds into a focused World view since 1989

I just tried via admin

ifconfig gif1 create < creates a new interface

ifconfig gif1 bonddev en0 < should pseudo it onto en0 - but it does;t seem to work

So not sure, I give in, but it is possible. Maybe trickier over wifi. If my Air had an rj45 connection is may be a lot easier to play with.

I think if I needed this function on my MBA I'd just get the ethernet dongle and fire up my Airport Express.

But there I go again with a simple, low config, it just works solution.

@stuffe Why do you have my Macbook Air?

er..... ;0

Its name is "Dan's Macbook Air". Mine. :-)

Anyone got a mac with a LAN connection want to try some debugging?

@jaberg 1989? You're young :/. GET OFF MY LAN!

It was the consolation prize - you got diamonds instead ;)

Air here at the moment.

11 or 13?

<-- Mac mini, but no eth cable.

That's when I started molding or shaping.

ohhh I see

I was going to say, I pitched you for a lot older.

<---eth cable, but no eth port

47

+1

indeed ;)

36

26

Though I wish were 25 right now :P, that would have been a perfect pattern.

I won't hold it against you. But I might try to mold you. ;)

no, wait (!), I'm 35!

heh

I think I'm 26...

yeah, I haven't had a birthday this year, so I am only 26.

I'm 35. Or 36. Or something like that.

we have a split personality ;)

Once you're over 21 it's about decades, not years.

hahahahahahahah

Old enough that you don't have to disclose for anything but retirement benefits.

@jaberg 11 or 13" air?

It's an 11

Base model.

Mine's 13

good choice

I do a sideline in making recycled leather cases for the 11"

$999 holiday gift for my mom Christmas before last.

can't get leather big enough for a 13" sadly

Once I have an iMac 27 on my desk I'll likely replace the MBP 15 with one of these--when it finally passes on.

What is your leather source?

@daviesgeek's new question got a response. Unfortunately, not answering the question we know he has.

I go round sofa shops and scrounge for old swatch books

Very cool.

I took a leather working class here at The Hack Factory.

I got some printable fabric for personalised liners

And I'm trying to convince the guy who taught it to help me tackle a project I've had in mind for a few years--a pair of leather "tactical" pants. (Perfect for night ops at Burning Man)

TOPIC OF THE DAY!

or, QUESTION of the day anyway...

terminal > uptime

15 days.

Anyone beat that?

No, on the desktop I cannot beat that. That paste was not from one either, of course.

@jaberg Yup....

@JasonSalaz 123 days!! Wow!

@stuffe 8 days

@daviesgeek

Try this

I've had a 450 day+ uptime before.

network preferences > click the + in the bottom left to add a new interface, select the host interface (wifi), give it a name, and create

@JasonSalaz Laptop or desktop.

neither

you should have 2 wifi interfaces, both connected to the same wifi network.

you have to manually provide an IP address tho

You should be able to do internet sharing over the 2nd one.

but I can't test it, for various reasons

17:27 up 30 days, 20:23

Do I have to give it a different IP address?

yes

Doesn't have to be in the same subnet tho

give it something like 172.17.0.1

then, on another machine on the same network, set that IP address to 172.17.0.2

see if they can ping

I just copied the settings from the existing one, to the other

That will likely copy over the DHCP config, undo that after.

Will that work?

can;t promise, but can't test either, no other machines to hand that I dare change the IP address on.

Does that work??

@JasonSalaz I'm dropping out of the top ten. Congratulations to @gentmatt

put it on a different subnet to your normal wifi.

make one up

123.123.123.0

Will that work?

then you have 2 subnets running over the same wifi card. Your 192.168.x.x (for example) that has a default route to the internet through your normal router on your original wifi card

And another on a different subnet - use 172.17.x.x

I see.

172 is a private network like 192.168

Did that.

@stuffe Didn't know that...

Now what?

172.17.1.1 is the subnet mask

10, 17 and 192 are all private i think

@stuffe I see.

you need another machine in the 172.17 range to test a ping.

10.* is private, 192.168.* is private, 172.... something weird. umm

172.16.* - 172.38.* or something dumb

Umm...it won't allow me to change that to 172.17.1.1

ahhhh, so close

172.16.0.0 – 172.31.255.255

your subnet is completely wrong

Ok....

So change it to??

leave the mask empty

@stuffe k

It's empty.

Now what?

have you got another machine on the same wifi with 172.17.1.2?

a pc will do, anything, even your phone actually (perhaps - will a, iPhone ping?)

No.

You're gonna need 2 machines at least to test any solution to your question

You mean pinging the IP address 172.17.1.2?

either way, you need to test you can ping to or from the 172 wifi instance

So is this configured right?

hmmmm, sorry, scatch this.

whilst it works, and gives you a virtual interface, when you get into internet sharing it won't let you share wifi over wifi2

the 2 remain mutually exclusive.

right

still, bet it was fun, right?

I just tried it.

;)

Definitely.

I appreciate your help.

I was hoping that would work.

Me too

I was suspicious that it wouldn't, but intrigued.

And I had no idea

And now I'm wondering if an Airport Express connected to the ethernet port of a mac so-equipped would serve as a wireless bridge. Can't test here, but will do so tomorrow.

Yeah lemme know.

wlancontroller.com

Long list of lessons for you tomorrow young man. ;)

@jaberg ;-)

First a brief history of the typewriter, and the misery it caused student-types. Then network hacking. It's going to be a busy day.

Yep

@stuffe Nice car.

Always wanted a Europa JPS, but two english vehicles is enough.