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VxJasonxV

10:00 PM

You must open the app, drag it to the other screen, then start playback.

Spare Oom

Yes, I've tried. Quicktime.

It won't drag to the other screen.

VxJasonxV

you can drag something to the other screen, right?

Nathan

Can you put your cursor on the other screen with no window dragging?

Spare Oom

I can drag files to the other screen.

Kyle Cronin

are the video files you're looking to play protected?

Spare Oom

10:00 PM

I can put my cursor on the other screen and drag files around there.

@KyleCronin I don't know.

Nathan

Can you drag the QuickTime window around on your main screen?

Kyle Cronin

where did you get the video files?

(we won't judge)

Spare Oom

ummmm

Nathan

Well, will they play on your main screen?

Spare Oom

If I am in mirror mode, yes, they will play.

Nathan

10:02 PM

Strange.

Kyle Cronin

my best guess is this has something to do with HDCP

Nathan

Are you attached to the TV with HDMI?

Spare Oom

@KyleCronin What is that?

Kyle Cronin

High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection

High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a form of digital copy protection developed by Intel Corporation to prevent copying of digital audio and video content as it travels across connections. These connections include popular ones like DisplayPort (DP), Digital Visual Interface (DVI), and High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI), as well as non-popular or now defunct connections like Gigabit Video Interface (GVIF), and Unified Display Interface (UDI). It is commonly, though incorrectly, referred to as High-definition Copyright Protection. HDCP does not allow copying permitt...

Spare Oom

@Nathan I attached with a Mini DVI to HDMI adapter then HDMI cable to the back of the tv.

Nathan

10:03 PM

Ah, so HDCP could be the problem.

Kyle Cronin

hm, according to Apple if HDCP doesn't work, you either get an error message or bands of static

Spare Oom

Would that make a difference if I can play it on the tv whilst using mirrored monitors?

Kyle Cronin

support.apple.com/kb/HT4428

I don't know

you might try asking your question on Ask Different

maybe someone on the site knows

VxJasonxV

You should use Quicktime to record your screen and show us what you're doing.

Spare Oom

Can I get there without signing in?

VxJasonxV

10:06 PM

yep

Spare Oom

I'm not that advanced. I don't know how to record.

VxJasonxV

Open Quicktime Player

File Menu

New Screen Recording

there is no step 4

(actually there is... click record, trim if necessary, then upload)

Kyle Cronin

@VxJasonxV step 4 is uploading

which takes forever

Nathan

Except, screen recording will only do one monitor at a time.

VxJasonxV

I Was going to ask about that

that's kind of a shame.

Nathan

10:09 PM

Apple's hatin' on the multi-monitor people with Lion.

Spare Oom

@VxJasonxV I don't see a New Screen Recording option.

Kyle Cronin

@Nathan he's on Leopard

I think screen recording came in SL

Nathan

Ahh.

VxJasonxV

it did, I missed that detail somewhere

Spare Oom

You say I have Leopard?

Kyle Cronin

10:12 PM

yes, 10.5.8 is leopard

Spare Oom

Ok then. I'll probably have to ask on the question site.

VxJasonxV

more rep for you :)

and all involved!

Spare Oom

I just want an answer, not reps. I'm just a newbie with computers - well more like an oldie who's been away.

Thanks for your help, guys.

Kyle Cronin

sorry we couldn't answer your question, hopefully someone can

and when you're posting it, try to be as specific as possible

Spare Oom

Well, one more quick question then. If I have an account on anther site, does it work for Apple St.Ex?

VxJasonxV

10:16 PM

after logging in, it will ask you to associate with "existing accounts already on the network"

Spare Oom

Problem is, I can't remember my pw.

VxJasonxV

I think this is my first time hearing from someone that uses a password on SE...

Spare Oom

At least I don't remember giving an open ID.

Is that safe?

And is says that it's a new open ID to Apple.

VxJasonxV

you should be able to look up whatever account info you're using at English

whether you're using an openid or a username/password account

Spare Oom

Is English my homepage then?

VxJasonxV

10:22 PM

I wouldn't put it in those words.

I'm just calling it out because Chat considers it your "home site". I don't know if that's chosen based off most rep, or what.

Kyle Cronin

I have to say, I think Stack Exchange underestimates how confusing the whole accounts thing is to people that aren't familiar with it

VxJasonxV

yeah

it should be trivial: one account for the entire network

but... that's not how the internet works, people don't know what "the stack exchange network" is or isn't...

Kyle Cronin

I don't understand why people can't just automatically have an account on every site once they sign up for one site

Spare Oom

Rep points aren't carried over to other sites, are they?

Kyle Cronin

no, reputation is site-specific

Spare Oom

10:27 PM

That's good.

Kyle Cronin

although because you have over 200 rep on English, you should start out on all the other sites with 101

VxJasonxV

rep is per site, but things like stackexchange.com and chat show a cumulative total

Abby T. Miller Ψ

i think part of it has to do with tracking the number of users registered to each site - so each site asks each user that comes in to say "yes, i'm going to participate in this site"

instead of just having everyone who's ever signed up for any site automatically be counted on every other site

i'm not sure the current method is the best way to do it, but i think that's where the thought comes from

Kyle Cronin

maybe the account could be automatically created and linked once that person participates?

it just seems like a broken system

it worked when there were 3 or 4 sites, but now that there's 56 it's just annoying

Abby T. Miller Ψ

@KyleCronin yeah, it's confusing, especially on non-tech sites where the eventual goal is to attract users that didn't necessarily come from stack overflow

Spare Oom

10:35 PM

I heard about this place by word of mouth and bypassed SO.

VxJasonxV

That's very easy to do nowadays.

English... Math... Gaming... Ubuntu... Even our little home away from home.

Abby T. Miller Ψ

@SpareOom glad to hear it. that's a story we're striving for.

Spare Oom

I hear people talk about SO and Meta and I don't understand what they are.

Abby T. Miller Ψ

@SpareOom can we put your face on a poster in the office pls

Spare Oom

lol

You can put my avitar there.

VxJasonxV

10:37 PM

your identicon? :P

Abby T. Miller Ψ

@SpareOom i will pick out a nice frame for it.

VxJasonxV

Do you have an actual avatar on English?

Spare Oom

@VxJasonxV Is that what you call them here?

VxJasonxV

the icon you have here is called an 'identicon'

literally, that green ... shape.

It is automatically generated by Gravatar, since you don't have another one defined.

Spare Oom

@AbbyTMillerΨ I expect you mean because of "word of mouth".

@VxJasonxV and who is Gravitar?

Abby T. Miller Ψ

10:38 PM

@SpareOom yes. or word of keyboard, or whatever.

VxJasonxV

Gravatar is short for "Globally Recognized Avatar". It's a service built with the intention of: "Upload an avatar once, use it everywhere." gravatar.com

Abby T. Miller Ψ

@VxJasonxV i didn't know that was what it stood for!

is learning something new every day.

VxJasonxV

there's a chat userscript you can download in order to make /me work automatically.

Spare Oom

@VxJasonxV Thank you. And ditto what @AbbyTMiller said.

Abby T. Miller Ψ

aha! where can i find this mysterious item?

VxJasonxV

10:40 PM

I've been around the internet for a while :).

@AbbyTMiller StackApps. I'll go look for it too. Race you there :).

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Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

Abby T. Miller Ψ

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Q: SE Chat Modifications -- Keyboard navigation and commands for chat

Screenshot Use /command shortcuts to perform common chat tasks: See message history inline: Easily preview replied-to messages: And much, much more... About Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep t...

script chat

DANG

that was a photo finish

Nathan

One second difference, according to Chat.

Abby T. Miller Ψ

i hit enter a split second after i saw @VxJasonxV's link, but then it had to process to turn the link into the magical box for a while. cost me precious microseconds.

is just figuring out this chat thing

hey, it works

VxJasonxV

\o/

Nathan

is testing

Abby T. Miller Ψ

10:43 PM

rejoices

VxJasonxV

That's all well and good, but the real test is how easy you can flip a table.

（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ □..
oh no I spilled my drink too :(

Spare Oom

haha

Nathan

this sounds like a job for... TextExpander.

VxJasonxV

'tis, and that's exactly where mine is

Abby T. Miller Ψ

what the i don't even

doesn't even

VxJasonxV

10:45 PM

I can even ride on a SLIP 'N' SLIDE! ⊂（ﾟДﾟ⊂⌒｀つ≡≡≡(´⌒;;;≡≡≡ WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Nathan

mmm, not quite seeing that one.

VxJasonxV

yeah, that one isn't as fun

I just have lots and lots of tables. ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻

I can even fire a TABLE-DOU-KEN (~ °□°)-{ ~~=== ┻━┻ o)

Nathan

🐱

I have a kitty.

(can anyone see that?)

VxJasonxV

nope

Spare Oom

No, it's just a square.

Nathan

10:47 PM

DANGIT LION

global emoji my...

Kyle Cronin

I see it @Nathan

VxJasonxV

weird, why don't I see emoji.

Nathan

Spare Oom

Do you have to take a screen shot of it?

VxJasonxV

I built a snowman: ☃

Nathan

10:47 PM

I don't see it either...

(mine, that is)

VxJasonxV

Are you using Safari, Kyle?

Spare Oom

I see the snowman, but it's tiny.

Kyle Cronin

yes

Spare Oom

And I can't drag the window to the tv screen!

VxJasonxV

yup, and Nathan is using Chrome, right?

Nathan

10:48 PM

Ahh, that's it.
Safari is the solution.

VxJasonxV

Me2

Spare Oom

Oh you're one of those people.

Nathan

But, it causes its own set of problems ;)

Chrome FTW

Spare Oom

But aren't there problems with Chrome use on Apples?

VxJasonxV

naw

Spare Oom

10:49 PM

dinner... back in a while.

Nathan

See ya

VxJasonxV

Hmm, I still don't see it under Safari.

Nathan

It does not like you.

(safari, not the kitty)

Kyle Cronin

VxJasonxV

Oh, it did show up

took it's dear sweet time to do so

Nathan

10:51 PM

Ooh, FCC's ISP rankings came out.

VxJasonxV

Jeez

Nathan

transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2011/db0802/…

VxJasonxV

Scrolling around on Safari is insane.

The fact that it exceeds the content border and bounces...

Nathan

has a scroll wheel.

Kyle Cronin

I like the bounce

VxJasonxV

10:53 PM

Look at how many of those graphs show Cox exceeding their promised amounts...

and by how much, too. yeesh

Nathan

Comcast isn't as far under as I feared.

They're the only fast option in Seattle.

Qwest maxes out at 6 down in my neighborhood.

VxJasonxV

Ugh iTerm. Why do you take 10+ seconds to OPEN A NEW TAB! щ(ﾟД ﾟщ)

Kyle Cronin

@VxJasonxV I'm using a wonderful iTerm replacement

it's called Terminal

and the tabs open wicked fast

VxJasonxV

yeah, I haven't used Terminal since Lion. I have been considering doing so.

This god awful update might push me to do so.

also, 30+ seconds to open a new window.

I'll make "The Switch ™" tonight.

Abby T. Miller Ψ

11:09 PM

sigh. my 'zomg i just updated to lion wheres my data' saga continues.

Kyle Cronin

what's missing?

VxJasonxV

Library?

Abby T. Miller Ψ

now it's a matter of getting my time capsule to connect to a new wireless network (i've since moved)

no, my computer's fine, for once in this story - i am loving using it again (was stuck with a crappy xp lappy during repairs) and playing with lion - i just wish i had my stuff!

(i just posted a question about it: apple.stackexchange.com/questions/19877/…)

brb. people still talk on the phone apparently.

VxJasonxV

^ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Kyle Cronin

@VxJasonxV laughing at other peoples' misfortune?

VxJasonxV

11:16 PM

No

Just what a relevant thing to say.

Abby T. Miller Ψ

it's like people think they can just ring a bell in my house and expect me to drop everything and talk to them or something