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9:01 PM
@user2103480 did you write this?
 
no, our prof
 
Incredible handwriting
 
I wish my handwriting was as clear
 
I wish my prof's writtings were so neat lol
 
To be honest
I had like 3 or 4 profs with handrwitten notes and all those were page upon page without any corrections
and mostly very readable
superhuman abilities
 
9:03 PM
The worst in in exercises sessions, where the prof draws arrows in every direction
 
I can't write 5 words without erasing anything
@BalarkaSen this would erase all spatial relations though
 
dunno what that means
 
I had some profs who were able to write on a chalkboard and it looked it was printed
 
damnit i cant remember the example
 
user486313
@MikeMiller do you know PDEs well?
 
9:05 PM
@BalarkaSen no distance. Also the quotienting should only work if we take half open cubes, meh. Else it's not a partition
 
I don't care to evaluate that
Do you have PDE question? I can try to answer
 
this reads like jargon to me. doesnt seem relevant to what the point of ensembles is
 
And why do we have a density with respect to R^6N with this sigma algebra? The density is constant on the microstates so one might just as well just call this the countable sum that it is
Wait nah that doesnt make sense
 
@user131585 asking a specific question is probably a better approach than to ask someone to make a public statement of their personal evaluation of their abilities.
 
@robjohn Before you go back to The Mean Square, after Thanksgiving, can I have a slice of your pi?? ;D
 
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9:08 PM
@MikeMiller or anyone else :) yeah; why would people work in PDEs, when others aim to use much simpler ODEs for modeling (and then simulating) scientific phenomena?
 
Do you know an ODE which models heat flow?
 
lol
 
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@MikeMiller nope
 
That's one of the very first interesting examples of PDE, back to Laplace. In fact, it's almost the canonical example of a certain type of PDE. There is a way to talk about it as an ODE in Hilbert space --- one common technique in the study of PDE is to turn them into ODEs in infinite-dimensional spaces --- but I do not know any way to talk about such thing in the context of finite-dimensional ODE.
But also, I am a pure mathematician. The only person I have to convince that I'm doing useful work is the NSF, and they are suckers. So I just work on what is interesting to me. The techniques which have traditionally evolved to study PDE, and their value in problems of geometric origin, are interesting to me. So even if it turns out there is some ODE which gives a reasonable approximation to the behavior of heat flow (doubt it!) I can just work on what seems fun. ;)
 
@BalarkaSen what is the point
 
9:12 PM
the point is you model the big system as iid copies of smaller systems
thats what an ensemble is. its a buzzword for iid copies lol
here you model the whole system of N particles as iid copies of each particle
each particle inhibits h^3N amount of stuff in your phase space by quantum whatever
and then the whole system is a tensor product of these
 
don't the particles move?
Do they move from microstate to microstate in time?
 
"More generally, if V and V' are complex (not necessarily compact or Kâhler) manifolds of equal dimensions and their even Betti numbers are flnite and equal then every proper surjective holomorphic map f: V — > V' is finite-to-one and when deg f = 1 the map is injective"
@BalarkaSen wtf?
 
@user2103480 yeah but at any instant of time if you freeze the particle is in one of those h^3N volume little cubes
and all those cubes are indistinguishable
 
user486313
@MikeMiller I see; I recently read a paper on the mystery of unidirectional valveless pumping, for example. The modeling is elegantly simplistic -- using ODEs. Also, a paper inspired by bird or insect flight, also given by a quasi-2D ODE model (several force equations). And the simulation of these ODE models agree pretty well with physical experiments too. So, I've been thinking of why people do PDEs, when ODEs can be good enough (as you alluded to) ...
 
@MikeMiller pretty cool
 
9:17 PM
I think it depends on the problem. For some problems you can model them using ODEs. Sometimes you can't.
 
i guess follows from some factorization maybe
 
An ODE in Hilbert space is a great way to work with a very specific type of PDE (most do not take that form). And even then, that's VERY different than working with ODE in the traditional sense; it is, for instance, not at all computationally tractable
 
the only proper surjective holomorphic maps between equidim manifolds i can think of which are not finite are blowdowns
but the betti gets flipped
 
whats degree between noncompact things
 
It's a proper map
 
user486313
9:20 PM
@MikeMiller that the NSF are suckers is funny; our topology professor told us that back in the days, they called in their research, and it got funded, over the phone ... merely because it sounded interesting ...
 
@user131585 I think I'd put it more succinctly like this. Real-world phenomena can behave in many, many different ways. Anyone who says that their one favorite tool can solve all those problems is either deluding you or yourself, and is definitely selling something. ;)
 
user486313
they were at Harvard / Princeton though ...
 
ok, well, i'll admit it's harder than that to get funding nowadays
 
@MikeMiller wow
 
but the point is that the people in charge are other pure mathematicians
 
9:22 PM
this is Bharali-Biswas
i know both of these people
complete nutcases
 
user486313
@MikeMiller yes, he refers to post-WWII days ... of the NSF ...
 
No, it is Gromov
 
They just wrote down a proof
 
amazing
 
9:22 PM
Thesis problem: Find a sentence in Gromov that nobody has explained before, then explain it
 
Yeah
actually
Bharali-Biswas uses resolution of singularities
lmao
 
user486313
@MikeMiller Gromov is tough at seminars ...
 
some factorization man has to be, you write it as some blowup blowdowns
 
user486313
@MikeMiller Do you think it's wise that I broaden my tools and do PDEs more?
 
I dunno, what is your field?
Do you have an advisor to talk to?
I am a topologist so I'm definitely not knowledgeable about what's useful to modeling fluid dynamics or whatever lol
 
user486313
9:27 PM
... fluid dynamics, broadly speaking ... haha
 
user486313
yes, my advisor prefers simplicity
 
user486313
so do his colleagues, it seems ...
 
user486313
and the papers we read give quasi-2D models that match well with experimental observations ...
 
user486313
these papers always make it into the top journals like journal of fluid mechanics, PNAS ...
 
user486313
matching models with experiments seems sought after, I guess ...
 
user486313
9:29 PM
but ... I'm worried that I'm not broadening my tools ... to do more PDEs ...
 
user486313
and I'd leave ... being deficient?
 
user486313
sorry, perhaps we can talk another time -- I don't want to hijack this room ...
 
user486313
thanks @MikeMiller
 
@user131585 You aren't hijacking anything. I just don't have answers. :)
 
user486313
@MikeMiller ah, ok cool. I've asked the great pure PDE people in my dept too. They, too, told me they're not in a position to advise or compare against people working with PDEs in a more applied context.
 
user486313
9:35 PM
Thing is, I don't feel I have much scientific domain expertise to offer anyone. That is what I'm afraid of.
 
user486313
I feel I only have a bit of mathematics to offer.
 
user486313
So, how I develop myself in the coming years should be done with that in mind ... I think
 
user486313
I'm never going to be the expert biophysicist in a math department, for example ...
 
Maybe you will I dunno
 
user486313
True true ... thanks
 
9:47 PM
$(\alpha - z)/(1 - \overline{\alpha} z)$ is a hyperbolic reflection of the disk right?
involution, fixes a semicircle's worth of points at least at a glance
 
@MikeMiller I think that Stein and students may have used pseudodifferential operators to study the heat equation in somewhat geometric approaches. I know they started it years ago, but I don't know how far they have gone.
@BalarkaSen It should fix a circle's worth of points.
 
Inside the disk
Sorry
But yeah I agree
 
 
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11:24 PM
@anakhro remember our talk about lecturers cramming too many topics into once course?
For one of my courses, I found another course's lecture notes. There they follow the same book and cover in 17 lectures about as much ground as we cover in... about 7-8 lectures
 
11:38 PM
german efficiency
 
it is indeed efficient to state a dozen results without proof, but I guess that's my life now
 
well, why prove it when its obvious
 
Hello everyone. In my intro analysis class, the professor has 3 and 1/2 weeks to teach differentiation, integration and sequences of functions (if enough time). Will it be feasible?
 
well, depends on how much of that time they actually have to teach
 
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11:55 PM
@Thorgott Obvious tends to mean 'it had been proved'. Many geometrically evident results are difficult to prove.
 
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