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2:00 PM
R is a PID iff it admits a Dedekind Hasse norm
 
wasn't Edward talking about that a while ago in a modular forms context or was that sth else?
 
it's a weakening of Euclidean norms
yeah i think it was totally different lmao
 
I see
 
it's honestly cool that for any proper ideal $I$ of a PID $R$, $R/I$ is a Euclidean ring
that tells you how far a PID is from being Euclidean
"not far"
 
but $(0)$ is a proper ideal
unless $R=0$
 
2:02 PM
proper means nonzero and not all of R to me
 
ah
it just means not all to me
 
yeah i think thats the correct usage
 
I feel like ring theory has an issue with non-canonicity of definitions, especially when it comes to degenerate cases
 
This has to do with dimension; a PID is 1-dimensional, if you quotient by substantial stuff it becomes 0-dimensional - indeed, $R/I = R/(f_1^{r_1} \cdots f_n^{r_n}) \cong R/(f_1^{r_1}) \times \cdots \times R/(f_n^{r_n})$ is semilocal
 
That's very neat
 
2:04 PM
yeah kinda dope
the Euclidean norm just comes from writing an element as $(unit) f_1^{k_1} \cdots f_n^{k_n}$, $0 \leq k_i < r_i$ and then looking at $k_1 + \cdots + k_n$
 
What's the relationship between Krull dim of R and topological dim of Spec R? (Not sure what topological dim is appropriate here, probably the small inductive dimension since Specs are ugly)
 
I have determined that $(\Bbb R_{\ge 0} \cup \{\infty\}) \otimes_\Bbb N \Bbb Z$ is the trivial ring
 
it's the largest chain of closed subsets in Spec R; what's the analogue called in top spaces?
not quite inductive dim right?
 
I feel that would be infinite very often
 
yeah haha
 
2:10 PM
so not sure if this is interesting from the topological perspective
 
I think you want irreducible closed subsets
 
I do, thank you
good spot
 
what's irreducible in this context
 
not a union of two closed subsets
like, $xy = 0$ as a variety is not irreducible
it's union of $x = 0$ and $y = 0$
 
what's an irreducible closed subset in R?
besides empty
and singletons
don't think any other will work
 
2:14 PM
@CalvinKhor can you tell how to solve after that?
 
split into two halves between two points in the set
 
You need spaces with awful separation properties to have many irreducible closed subsets
 
yeah, I'm starting to notice
 
I think that spec R is T_1 iff it is Hausdorff if dim R=0
I'm not sure though
 
it's always T_1, points are closed
Hausdorff iff dim R = 0 yeah
 
2:17 PM
damn
why topologize at all if it's gonna be this horrible
 
because u gotta define that sheaf on it m8
 
@BalarkaSen aren't there plenty of generic points usually?
 
@Alessandro Ah you're right somehow I was thinking of the maximal spectrum
There's always (0)
so yeah, gone
 
Yeah, and every irreducible closed subset has its own generic point I think
I forgot most of this stuff
 
yeah but nobody cares
do you want to know what a random metric space is
 
2:20 PM
Actually is it true that for a topological space $X$ a closed subspace $C$ is irreducible iff it is the closure of a point?
@BalarkaSen yes but my train is leaving in 5 minutes and I'll be without internet for a couple of hours so maybe later
 
But $\Bbb A^2$ with Zariski topology, $\{x = 0\}$ in there? It's irreducible but points are closed in $\Bbb A^2$
Generic points is not a phenomenon for actual varieties (max spec) only in schemes
That's why I made my initial comment
 
Wait aren't the prime ideals of the form $(f(x,y))$ for some irreducible $f$ not closed?
 
maxSpec is the subspace of Spec consisting only of maximal ideals
But even without schemes bullshit, Zariski topology on $\Bbb A^2$ is just when you declare closed sets to be algebraic subsets
Points are algebraic subsets so by definition closed
 
Oh I see what you mean now. I was thinking about Spec C[x,y]
 
And $\{x = 0\}$ is closed, irreducible
Yeah just do maxSpec
 
2:24 PM
Right, agreed
Alright I'm leaving
Bye
 
Safe journey
 
bye
 
3:23 PM
Should the transformation in the top voted answer not be $(\frac{a}{b}x$?
 
Good afternoon everybody. Just for your comment. Is it clear my question now in English language and for my request? Thank you very much for all users into chat.
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Q: When to use complex analysis for the integrals

SebastianoSupposing to have these integrals, for example, $$\int\limits_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\frac{dx}{(x^2+1)^2} \tag 1$$ $$\int\limits_{0}^{+\infty}\frac{x^2}{x^4+1}dx \tag 2$$ $$\int\limits_{0}^{2\pi}\frac{1}{2\cos x+5}dx \tag 3$$ these integrals can probably be solved in the traditional way. What if are...

 
The transformation they listed would be a stretching by $a$ and a squeezing by $b$ no?
 
4:05 PM
I'm back @Balarka, what's a random metric space?
 
@Alessandro Let $G$ be a graph, $E$ be the set of edges. Choose some distribution/measure $\mu$ on $\Bbb R_+$. For each edge $e \in E$ assign a random variable $X_e$ to it which follows the law of $\mu$, and $\{X_e\}_{e \in E}$ are all independent
In other words, consider the product measure $\mu^{\otimes |E|}$ on $\Bbb R_+^E$
The random variables $X_e$ are to be thought of assigning random lengths to the edges $e \in E$. Thus, we get a "random metric" on $G$ by declaring $d(v, w) = \inf \sum_{e \in \gamma} X_e$ where infimum varies over all edge-paths $\gamma$ on $G$ starting at $v$ and ending at $w$.
$d(v, w)$ itself is a random variable, of course, defined on $(\Bbb R_+^E, \mathcal{B}_{\Bbb R_+}^{\otimes |E|}, \mu^{\otimes |E|})$
In less idiosyncratic circles, this is known as first passage percolation :P
 
4:37 PM
number of ways in which n boys can sit at a round table so that all shall not have same neighbours.?
 
 
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9:45 PM
hey @Ted, I see you also stumbled upon the question about $[0,1]^2$
 
which question?
 
Oh no
I was hoping to see some nice topology
 
a 1-dimensional chart for a 2-dimensional manifold isn't quite that, I'm afraid
 
Thorgott is there any chance you can take a look at a theorem in a paper for me and tell me if you think it's a useful extension to the coarea formula for my purposes or not
Theorem 2.2 if so
 
10:02 PM
The whole thing seems like crap, @Thorgott.
Manifold with boundary? The boundary is an abstract smooth $1$-manifold, but hardly a smooth submanifold. Shrug.
 
Yeah, I initially made a comment noting that it's certainly not a smooth manifold, but at best one with boundary and that still wouldn't be smooth, because it's boundary would necessarily be the unit square, which is not a smooth submanifold, but then I noticed that even the definitions are messed up
@Drathora that would depend on how restrictive being in $W_{1,n}^1$ is and I have no clue what that is (some kind of Sobolev space, I wager, but not the usual ones)
 
10:17 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to work out now
Just wasn't sure if it was something people commonly already knew so thought I'd check before spending all evening on it haha
I'll report back if this goes anywhere
 
10:30 PM
help, my manifolds lecture is turning into a functional analysis lecture
 
10:43 PM
Noice
What are you doing? @Thorgott
 
Hodge theory
 
I've only heard of that by name
 
we're proving the Hodge decomposition: If $(M,g)$ is a compact Riemannian manifold, you have $\Omega^k(M)=d\Omega^{k-1}(M)\oplus\delta\Omega^{k+1}(M)\oplus\mathcal{H}^k(M)$ orthogonally and $\mathcal{H}^k(M)$ is finite-dimensional, where $\mathcal{H}^k(M)$ is the space of harmonic $k$-forms
and in order to do this we assume elliptic regularity on manifolds and Rellichs compactness theorem without proof
and I'm feeling very lost
we spent like one page proving the Laplace operator is reversely bounded on the orthogonal complement of the harmonic forms
somehow this will ultimately imply that each cohomology class possesses a unique harmonic representative
and from that we get Poincaré duality
 
11:50 PM
What do you think is the normal progression after single var calculus,linear, and abstract algebra? Should I learn DE and PDE?
forgot to mention multivar *
Are there useful applications of complex number theory in the real world or is the math created from that field the application?
Since the number doesn't technically 'exist' in the way that we can observe in nature.
 
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