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The following question of mine was downvoted and I don't know why.
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Q: Show that $T^S$ with an evaluation is indeed the exponential in the functor category $\hat{\mathbf{C}}=\mathbf{Sets}^{\mathbf{C}^{{\rm op}}}.$

ShaunI'd like to apologise in advance for the mixture of different notations. This is Exercise I.8 of Mac Lane and Moerdijk's, "Sheaves in Geometry and Logic [. . .]". According to Approach0, this is new to MSE. The Question: Consider a small category $\mathbf{C}$. For each object $B$ of $\math...

Please may I have some feedback?
I asked it in the constructive feedback room (see below) but nobody has replied yet.
in Constructive Feedback, 3 hours ago, by Shaun
The following question was downvoted and I don't know why.
 
 
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3:42 AM
@geocalc33 Yes, (if you’re talking about that footnote example) yes on the LHS we are taking the derivative with respect to $x$
 
4:34 AM
Hey guys I wondering if the following statement $(\forall x \in R)(\forall y \in R)[((x+y \leq 7) \wedge (xy = x)) \Rightarrow (x < 7)]$ would always be true?
 
 
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6:26 AM
Is anyone online ? I want to know how $$ \left ( \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \right) f(x-x’) = -\left( \frac {\partial}{\partial x’} \right) f(x-x’) $$
 
 
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10:07 AM
@LukasHeger Wie kann man diesen Zusammenhang am einfachsten beschreiben?
 
 
1 hour later…
11:11 AM
@Rudi_Birnbaum Elemente der Fourierbasis von $L^2(S^1)$ sind irreduzible Darstellungen von $S^1$
 
11:23 AM
Ich dachte eher andersherum.
 
naja, ich meinte die sind das gleiche
A=B ist dasselbe wie B=A
 
Meine Frage war ob man Fouriertheorie so verallgemeinern kann, dass sie sich auf Gruppentheorie reduziert. In dem Sinne dass die Darstellungen beliebiger Gruppen als Fourierbasen interpretiert werden könnten.
 
Ja, das geht
Details stehen z.B. in Steinberg - Representation Theory of Finite Groups
 
OK, Danke!
 
11:43 AM
1,2,3,4,5,...
 
7,23,...
 
12:13 PM
Hi chat! Just a small question: I proved that $\lim_{p\to\infty}\|x\|_p=\|x\|_{\infty}$ by showing the inequality: $$\|x\|_\infty\leq\left(\sum_{j=1}^n |x_j|^p\right)^{1/p}\leq n^{1/p}\|x\|_\infty$$ And then using squeeze theorem, I wonder if this proof doesn't have any holes.
 
1:10 PM
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Q: Oscillating Paraboloid equation

maths student I know how to find tangent plane but I don't know about how to find osculating paraboloid and then approximate N. Can somebody help me out?

 
1:43 PM
@LeakyNun Hi
@LeakyNun Hi
You are living in HK?
 
Anyone interested in elementary set theory question? I want to prove the distribution of union operation over the intersection of two sets.
 
2:03 PM
@AlessandroCodenotti I was waiting for you from yesterday, please discuss a proof of set theory with me.
@AlessandroCodenotti I was waiting for you from yesterday, please discuss a proof of set theory with me.
 
@LukasHeger Hi!
 
@Jacksoja hi
 
I have a question that I thought about for a long time now
without any luck
 
Hey @Edward
 
2:16 PM
can you please help with a hint or so
 
@Jacksoja what's the question?
 
@LukasHeger we have that X^k = X mod rs , where r, s are primes ,but we only know their product, how can we find r and s ? k is such that gcd(k , (r-1) , (s-1) ) = 1
@LukasHeger we have that X^k = X mod rs , where r, s are primes ,but we only know their product, how can we find r and s ? k is such that gcd(k , (r-1) , (s-1) ) = 1
 
@Lukas Marius sent out the list of Vorträge and stuff for the ANT seminar
in case you haven't seen it yet
@Lukas Marius sent out the list of Vorträge and stuff for the ANT seminar
 
@adeshmishra can u mention it here?
 
Good day. I have done studying Linear Algebra this Semester and now i am preparing for my exam. I have pretty solid idea of what is the subject and how do they connect, nevertheless i have a small inquiry. Feel free to answer with depth since i will understand most likely. How can i think of Vectorspaces and Fields in an intutive way. What is the relationship between those two.
I know that you use numbers from the field to scale the vectors. But further than that i do not build a strong connection . Are vectorspaces a subgroup of that Field taken to the cross to itself (thus building the Vectors).
 
2:18 PM
wow chat is screwing up
 
@EdwardEvans did you think more about it?
 
@Edward yeah I saw it
 
I notice that too
thought it was my connection
Many messages gets sent twice
 
@Lukas I'm sure you will struggle with your Vortrag haha
 
@Edward yeah I saw it
@EdwardEvans yeah it will be tough
 
2:21 PM
@LukasHeger did you see the question ? am not sure it was sent
@LukasHeger did you see the question ? am not sure it was sent
@MikeMiller Hola mike
 
@MadSpaceMemer check back the definition and axioms of fields and vector spaces and see what's common
 
@StupidQuestionsInc I have them memorized. Commutation and Assosication are common, however for vectors and numbers.
existance of an inverse or the addition etc
obviously no inverse for multiplication since you cant do that to vectors thus vectorspaces are not fields. but where are you going with this
 
@LukasHeger did you see the question ? am not sure it was sent
@LukasHeger did you see the question ? am not sure it was sent
 
@Jacksoja I saw it but I don't know the answer
 
@StupidQuestionsInc Hi
 
2:30 PM
@adeshmishra hi can you post your set theory question?
 
Thank you for asking it.
 
@LukasHeger okay thanks
 
@MadSpaceMemer i mean the only way to answer your question is to actually look at the things in common and that differ between vector spaces and fields
 
@LukasHeger not sending double chats on purpose my chat is lagging
@LukasHeger not sending double chats on purpose my chat is lagging
@LukasHeger not sending double chats on purpose my chat is lagging
 
@StupidQuestionsInc thats not what i meant with my question. I was hoping for something more intutive. Looking at axioms is something anyone can do.
 
2:32 PM
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Q: Proving the distribution of union operation on the intersection of two sets.

adesh mishraI have to prove $$ \left(A \cap B \right) \cup C = \left(A \cup C \right) \cap \left(B \cup C\right)$$ My attempt is the usual one : $$ \textrm{Let}~ x \in \left[ \left ( A \cap B \right) \cup C \right] $$ $$\implies x \in \left(A \cap B \right) ~\textrm{or}~ x \in C $$ $$\implies \left( x ...

 
@adeshmishra ok i'm on it
 
is anyone else
having this problem?
 
Hi @MikeMiller
Hm, I am lagging too
 
@MadSpaceMemer i feel you, but in this context (and i may be wrong) i don't see how else you can get any intuition other than by manipulating the axioms and using certain examples to get a feeling of how they differ
 
Hi
 
2:34 PM
@geocalc33 Hello Hello is anybody in there?
@geocalc33 Hello Hello is anybody in there?
 
@adeshmishra I'm here
@adeshmishra I'm here
@adeshmishra I'm here
 
@adeshmishra i believe you can just use that $(p\wedge q)\vee r\equiv (p\vee r)\wedge (q\vee r)$
 
@adeshmishra I'm here
but I'm lagging
 
@StupidQuestionsInc I don't know that logic law, I have just begun studying the set theory. Where should I begin from?
@geocalc33 Why so much "I'm here" messages? :-)
 
Well Can you answer this @StupidQuestionsInc for a vectorspace L on the field S. Does it mean that for each vector $l \in L$ Such that $l:=(l_1,l_2)$ is then $l_1 , l_2 \in S$?
 
2:37 PM
@adeshmishra to prove things in naive set theory you usually need a good knowledge of basic propositional logic, i would recommend that you learn those few rules and then go back to proving things in naive set theory
:53549296 You mean elements of $L$ are of the form $(l_1,l_2)$ ? If so then it depends on how $L$ is defined, but there's nothing that necessitates that $l_1,l_2$ be elements of the field $S$
 
Ok, understood
 
@Lukas I have only just seen the email telling me to pay Semestergebühren by today if i wanna continue into the Sommersemester o_o
 
@EdwardEvans then better pay
yeah today is the deadline
 
@StupidQuestionsInc The problem is whenever I start propositional logic I always end up giving up. There are reasons for that: first is that books explain things too much in the beginning that I already know (around 40-50 pages are devoted just for developing some terminologies) , second I never got any good book on that subject, third no one likes teaching Logic the way books teach.
 
2:43 PM
@Jacksoja Hi, I looked at your question but don't know the answer
@BalarkaSen Hello
I'm also lagging
 
@StupidQuestionsInc Are you around?
@geocalc33 Are you here?
 
@MikeMiller How's things?
 
@MikeMiller thanks for the respond Mike!
@MikeMiller thanks for the respond Mike!
 
I tried to contact you elsewhere but you weren't around
 
@StupidQuestionsInc Are you around?
@geocalc33 Are you here?
 
2:49 PM
posting a message to experience the lag
 
@Lukas okay it just says a late fee is applied if it's not paid on time, not an automatic exmatriculation ol
lol*
 
What?
 
ha, I'm not lagging
 
it seems only to lag when you tag somebody
 
Today in morning when I visited the site it said something like "Maintenance is going on"
 
2:50 PM
let me try that
 
@Edward test
 
oh yeah it does seem that way haha
 
ok, that didn't lag either
oh wait, it says "timeout"
I see how it is
 
yeah there you go
just don't "retry" else it'll post it twice lol
 
weird
 
2:52 PM
oh really?
 
@BalarkaSen @MikeMiller I've got a random topology idea motivated by algebra, but I'm not sure how to make it work. Here's the motivation: If $L/K$ is a (say finite for simplicity) Galois extension, then one can form the category of $L$-vector spaces with a semilinear $\mathrm{Gal}(L/K)$-action, where semilinear action is defined as a group action such that $\sigma(v+\lambda w)=\sigma(v)+\sigma(\lambda)\sigma(w)$.
 
that is why my messages apprered 5 times?
BTW Lukas
the question is like this
we have that X^k = X mod rs , where r, s are primes ,but we only know their product, how can we find r and s ? k is such that gcd(k , (r-1) (s-1) ) = 1
 
This category turns out to be equivalent to $K$-vector spaces via the functors $W \mapsto W^G$ and $V \mapsto L \otimes_K V$ (with the action coming from the action on $L$)
 
notice that gcd ( k, (r-1) (s-1) ) as a product not as 3 terms
 
So I was thinking if there's a good analogue for covering spaces
 
2:54 PM
No clue, sorry.
 
@LukasHeger so what category is the category of finite extensions of a given field equivalent to?
 
Maybe category of vector bundles over the total space with an action by the deck transformation group
 
@LukasHeger yay galois descent
 
@LeakyNun to itself :P
@LeakyNun to itself :P
 
Not sure what semilinearity is supposed to mean in topological context. Some strange monodromy maybe.
 
2:56 PM
I kinda expected that answer lol
 
@LeakyNun to the category of finite discrete spaces with a transitive continuouus $\widehat{\Bbb Z}$-action
the idea is this: let $p:X \to Y$ be a normal covering, then we can define a functor $\mathrm{Top}/Y \to \mathrm{Top}/X$ via taking pullbacks along $p$: $Z \mapsto Z \times_Y X$ which comes with a projection to $X$ and an action of $\mathrm{Aut}(p)$ on the left component
 
I want a small category
preferably a category where all isomorphisms are automorphisms
what do you call those?
 
skeletal
 
Look at a covering map $X \to Y$ and the category of vector bundles $\{E \to X\}$ equipped with a $\text{Gal}(X/Y)$-action on both the spaces $E$ and $X$ such the projection is equivariant under that action
This is equivalent to the category of vector bundles over $Y$
Isn't your analogy as straightforward as this?
 
this action has a property which is somewhat analogous to semilinearity projection is equivariant
@BalarkaSen yeah that looks good
I'm still wondering if you can get something for the slice categories
 
3:01 PM
I have never actually understood pullback diagrams of covering space. In particular, if $p : X \to Y$ is a covering, what is $X \times_Y X \to Y$?
Pulling back the cover on itself, that is.
 
hmm
 
What is the question
 
Hi mike
edward solved the mystery
you should not ping someone , it will cause the lag
otherwise the server works properly
If Ted were here, being admin and all, he could help us solve this issue i think
 
looking at $\Bbb R \to S^1$, we should get $\{(x,y) \mid (x-y) \in \Bbb Z\}$ this is a disjoint union of copies of $\Bbb R$ indexed over $\Bbb Z$
which is the analog of the fact that $L \otimes_K L \cong L^{[L:K]}$ in field theory
 
3:17 PM
I suspect that the admin can't do anything, all that really lets you do is change pins and kick people and stuff
Seems like a technical (StackExchange side of things) issue
 
I see :D
 
@LukasHeger @BalarkaSen Surely the analogy to $L/K$ with $Gal(L/K)$-action is going to be $\Bbb Z[\pi_1 X / H]$ with $N(H)$ action
Or whatever the deck transformation group is
@BalarkaSen Things are ok, i should maybe remake gchat
i am locked out of my ucla email
 
3:55 PM
@adeshmishra yeah but you still have to go through it, there some things that few people enjoy but you really need them in order to do other more enjoyable things
 
4:11 PM
@StupidQuestionsInc What’s your recommendation for Propositional Logic books ? I must remind you that it will be my first course
 
@adeshmishra i don't have any particular recommendation in mind, just a small search on math SE shows an example: A transition into advanced math
 
@StupidQuestionsInc Wow! Thank you. I will start reading from tomorrow.
Can you please clear one more doubt of mine?
 
@adeshmishra just go over quickly over the logic parts, and do some exercises per each section i think tht would be fairly enough
@adeshmishra sure
 
@StupidQuestionsInc I'm having some difficulty in the usage of operator $\nabla$
@StupidQuestionsInc I'm having some difficulty in the usage of operator $\nabla$
 
@adeshmishra it's been such a long time since i did multivariable calculus, i think i will have doubts too :)
 
4:24 PM
If we have something like this $$ \left (\mathbf A \cdot \nabla \right) \mathbf B$$ then should we take the dot product first or operate $\nabla$ on $\mathbf B$ first?
 
@adeshmishra take the dot product first
 
@StupidQuestionsInc hhahahhahah. You're very kind and modest.
 
@StupidQuestionsInc I must say, your profile picture and name just cracked me up. I honestly lagughed 5 minutes straight) its amazing =
 
@LeakyNun So we will get something like this $$ A_x \frac{\partial}{\partial x} + A_y\frac{\partial}{\partial y} + A_z\frac{\partial}{\partial z}$$
Am I right this far?
 
If each $X_i$ is first countable then so is $\coprod_{i\in I}X_i$.
 
4:27 PM
@MadSpaceMemer glad it gave you some giggles :)
 
@LeakyNun So we will get something like this $$ A_x \frac{\partial}{\partial x} + A_y\frac{\partial}{\partial y} + A_z\frac{\partial}{\partial z}$$
 
Suppose each $X_i$ is first countable. Let $(p,i_0) \in \coprod_{i\in I}X_i$. Since $X_{i_0}$ is first countable, there exists a countable local basis $\mathbb{B}_p$ for $p$. I claim that the following set: $\mathbb{\sigma_{i_0}(\mathbb{B}_p})$ $=$ $\{$ $\sigma_{i_0}(B)$ $:$ $B\in \mathbb{B}_p$ $\}$ is a countable local basis for $(p,i_0)$. Clearly, it is a collection of open sets in the disjoint union. If $U$ is an open set of $(p,i_0)$ in the disjoint union, then $\sigma_{i_0}^{-1}(U)$ is open in $X_{i_0}$. But, $\sigma_{i_0}^{-1}(U)$ contains some $B\in \mathbb{B}_p$ which owns $p$, and
 
yes
 
is my proof correct?
 
@LeakyNun Now how to operate this on $\mathbf B$ ?
 
4:30 PM
distribute
 
Is it like this $$ A_x \frac{\partial \mathbf B}{\partial x} + A_y \frac{\partial \mathbf B}{\partial y} + A_z\frac{\partial \mathbf B}{\partial z}$$ ?
 
yeah
 
@StupidQuestionsInc Am I right in above ?
@LeakyNun Wow! you helped me just by writing "take dot product first" , "yes" , "distribute" , "yeah" :)
@LeakyNun Thank you. :)
@StupidQuestionsInc Sir I will read that book and we will meet tomorrow, good night.
@StupidQuestionsInc Sir I will read that book and we will meet tomorrow, good night.
 
@adeshmishra good night to you too
hope it turns out to be useful for you
 
4:46 PM
Hello! I had a question just like this one: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1454363/… decided to search before asking myself. However I still can’t seem to understand the answer. 1. How is H a plane? 2. Why is it that v1 can’t be expressed by H?
 
Hi chat! Just a small question: I proved that $\lim_{p\to\infty}\|x\|_p=\|x\|_{\infty}$ by showing the inequality: $$\|x\|_\infty\leq\left(\sum_{j=1}^n |x_j|^p\right)^{1/p}\leq n^{1/p}\|x\|_\infty$$ And then using squeeze theorem, I wonder if this proof doesn't have any holes.
 
5:00 PM
Can the space of Polynomials over a field $\mathbb{K}$ example $\mathbb{K}[X]$ be seen as a set of functions from something to something?
According to my Script its an example of such , however it is not specified from where to where it is mapping
 
hello, I saw a function $f\,:\, \mathbb{N}\to \mathcal{\mathbb{N}}$. What does $\mathcal{\mathbb{N}}$ mean? Is it a set of all subsets of natural numbers or the set of the natural numbers?
 
@vesii the set of natural numbers
 
@dondeman $H$ is $2$-dimensional, try plotting it if you want to see it geometrically
@StupidQuestionsInc yeah, that proof works just fine
@MadSpaceMemer yeah, it's the set of functions $\mathbb{N}_0\rightarrow\mathbb{K}$ with finite support
 
5:16 PM
can you elaborate that with an example, showing the element belonging to the set and how it maps from and to?. I can not construct one.
 
Think of the list of coefficients as a (long) vector, starting with the constant coefficient. The fact that the polynomial has finite degree means that after some point, all the entries in the vector are $0$.
 
True.
 
So you're looking at all sequences that are eventually zero.
 
And multiplication would then be defined by $(fg)_n=\sum\limits_{i=0}^n f_i g_{n-i}$
 
So the elements of $\mathbb{R}[X]$ are sequences.
 
5:19 PM
Yes, but it's not really useful to think of them as sequences. It's just what's needed to define them.
 
But what oes that have to do with the natural numbers and the field K.
I do not see how this function is mapping from and to.
 
A sequence is a map $\Bbb N\to K$.
You assign an element of $K$ to each $n\in\Bbb N$.
 
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
I get it!
 
As an example, the polynomial $X^2+X+1$ belongs to the map $\mathbb{N_0}\rightarrow K$ that sends $0\mapsto1$, $1\mapsto1$, $2\mapsto1$ and $n\mapsto0$ for $n\ge3$
 
Yippee!
 
5:22 PM
Each $n$ gets sent to the coefficient of $X^n$ in the polynomial
 
I see So the $ X^n + X^{n-1}..........$ is merly a notation to express the "long vector" which in itself is a "sequence". This sequence is "a function from the naturals to a field"
 
Well, but most of the time we're interested in the actual polynomial :P
 
Yeah, it's good to know that this is the formal definition, but you should not start thinking about polynomials as sequences, cause that usually isn't helpful
 
I understand. I just wanted to know the definitions.
thank you all.
 
@TedShifrin Hi Ted
 
5:36 PM
Hi @Jacksoja
 
I have a question for you
You have time? :)
 
Depends on the question.
 
I (if you are interested in my opinion) think this is actually extremely important for understanding. Just by understanding the connections, now I read the notations and don't scratch my head and act like it is magic. Now I actually understand why it is written f(X) for a polynom since obviously its a function . If I ever be a professor I will truly be extremely regirious as possible since sofar it has been the most amazing method to understanding stuff and building connections.
 
@TedShifrin X^k = X mod rs , where r, s are primes ,but we only know their product, how can we find r and s ? k is such that gcd(k , (r-1) (s-1) ) = 1
 
@MadSpaceMemer: Sometimes it's bad teaching to be too rigorous — students get lost in fancy stuff they're not ready to understand yet.
@Jacksoja: We have lots of number theory students in here. I'm NOT a number theory person at all.
 
5:38 PM
@TedShifrin Of course Mister Shifrin. well then it might be just a personality problem. This seems to work perfect for me.
 
@MadSpaceMemer: I'm just speaking from 40+ years of teaching experience. Students are different, yes, of course.
 
Yes I know Mister shifrin.
 
@Jacksoja: This is all about cryptography stuff and I really do not know it.
 
Ok then I will not be as regiorous as possibe, but still I will be a pain in the ass. students will thank me later for it :D
 
Possibly. Beginning teachers are over-zealous thinking they know how to do everything right, better than all their teachers had been. It turns out ... they realize they don't know.
 
5:40 PM
No, writing $f(X)$ has nothing to do with the sequence definition of polynomials. A sequence is a function on $\mathbb{N_0}$, but $X$ is not a natural number. $f(X)=f$ has something to do with evaluating polynomials.
 
That could be very well true. I do not know. I am just reflecting my experience.
 
Hi, demonic @Alessandro.
 
@Thorgott Oh o_O ok.
 
@Thorgott: Should you talk about how the polynomial and the polynomial function are different? :P
Since MadSpace thinks he wants everything as rigorous as possible?
 
5:41 PM
@TedShifrin Thanks anyway Ted!
 
Ah wait i don't think I want it that rigorous! for now it is quite enough I believe.
 
Ah ha. Eating his words already.
 
I will come ot this topic onces again in the future with better knowledge :D
 
The thing to remember is that a polynomial is not a function, since a polynomial is not determined by its evaluation on all points in its domain, but if that is clear there's no need to be excessively formal
 
Well, Alessandro, certainly calculus students would disagree with you. It's only finite characteristic that messes us up :P
 
5:44 PM
yeah, that's an important conceptual difference
 
But that's an important issue to reckon with in abstract algebra, indeed.
 
Right, I was thinking about polynomial rings over some ring, not about polynomial functions on the reals
 
You have a map $K[X]\mapsto\mathrm{Map}(K,K)$ sending each polynomial to its polynomial function. This map is injective iff $K$ is infinite and surjective iff $K$ is finite.
 
Ok polynomials not functions, got it
 
Lagrange interpolation is a thing, after all.
Numerical analysis probably doesn't work too well in finite characteristic.
 
5:47 PM
Wouldn't it work extremely well, because every function is polynomial :p
 
I guess somebody must have thought about polynomial interpolation for continuous functions over a topological ring
I have no idea how well (if at all) something like that can be made to work
 
I actually have no idea ...
 
I mean Stone-Weierstrass is already way more general than it is usually presented
If $X$ is (locally) compact Hausdorff and $P$ is a subset of $C(X)$ (complex valued continuous functions) which separates points, then the $\ast$-subalgebra of $C(X)$ generated by $P$ is dense
 
if you men discover something big. Please remember mentioning the idiot who was asking about a simple monkey minded definition
 
@Thorgott: If you work $p$-adically can't there be more functions? :)
 
5:54 PM
(it is also conjectured that this can be extended to the noncommutative setting, but it is quite open as far as I know)
 
fair enough
I think Lagrange interpolation should work over any integral domain
No wait, modules are too inconvenient
 
If $G$ is an abelian group and $D$ a divisible subgroup of $G$, is it true that $G\cong G/D\oplus D$?
 
Why should $G/D$ embed as a subgroup of $G$ to start with?
 
Hmmm, this is a good point
 
Even with abelian groups there are lots of non-split extensions.
summons Lukas :P
 
6:00 PM
I'm trying to prove that any abelian group $G$ can be decomposed as $D\oplus N$ where $D$ is divisible and $N$ has no nontrivial subgroups. Having a little bit of trouble sinking my teeth into it, though
Maybe I could set up an exact sequence and show that it splits
 
You have to have the right $D$ to start with. Have you tried lots of examples? I've never thought about this.
 
Well, I know that $D$ has to contain all divisible elements of $G$, so I've shown that the set of all divisible elements of $G$ is a subgroup
"If $G$ is an abelian group, let $D\subseteq G$ be the set of all elements $g\in G$ such that, for every $n\in\mathbb{Z}$, there exists a $g'\in G$ such that $ng'=g$. We note that, if $e$ is the identity of $G$, then $ne=e$ for all $n\in\mathbb{Z}$, and so $D$ is not empty. Further, if $g,h\in D$ then there exist $g',h'\in G$ such that $g-h=ng'-nh'=n(g'-h')$ for all $n\in\mathbb{Z}$. So, $D$ is a subgroup of $G$. Clearly, $D$ is divisible."
 
I would want more detail in that proof. You need to justify that you can find one $n$ that works for both.
So, do indivisible elements form a subgroup?
No, I guess not.
 
Well, there is a $g'$ for every single possible $n\in\mathbb{Z}$, so choice of $n$ is abitrary
Though, this is a bit new to me, so if I've gotten something wrong somewhere, I wouldn't be surprised.
 
No, I was misthinking divisibility.
So what happens if $G=\Bbb Q\oplus\Bbb Z$?
Or just $\Bbb Z$?
I'm confused.
 
6:08 PM
Well, in the first, $\Bbb Q$ is divisible and $\Bbb Z$ has no non-trivial divisible subgroups. In the second, $\Bbb Z\cong\{0\}\oplus\Bbb Z$ and $\{0\}$ is divisible, by my understanding.
 
Oh, you typed the problem wrong.
You said $N$ had no nontrivial subgroups.
 
Ooooooooh, yeah, that's a typo
No nontrivial divisible subgroups. That word is important
 
Yup.
So you should probably go back to thinking about whether there's a way to split $G\to G/D$.
It's pretty clear that $G/D$ meets the criterion, I guess.
 
user447585
Does someone thinks that the conjecture that every prime $p\geq 7$ can be represented as $p=qr+s$ where $q,r,s$ are primes is harder to settle than conjecture of Goldbach?
 
Yeah, I was thinking that $G/D\cong N$ would be true, hence the original question.
 
6:13 PM
The splitting is the serious issue.
 
(Well, how do you measure the difficulty of settling a conjecture?)
 
user447585
That is a good question of whose answer I am unsure of at this moment. @Rithaniel
 
So if you have a non-divisible element, there must be a smallest positive $n$ by which it's not divisible. Can you use that?
Not clear how you get a homomorphism out of this.
 
@IshPaladin not exactly what you are asking, but it is known that every sufficiently large natural number (not just prime) is of that form or the sum of two primes
 
I might be able to. Lemme roll it over in my mind and maybe come back around
 
user447585
6:17 PM
@Thorgott Yes, the result of Chen, right?
 
yeah
 
Divisible implies injective, and I can get a splitting from that. Then all I have to show is that $G/D$ has no nontrivial divisible subgroups
 
Oh, so you get the splitting from the other side. Clever.
Oh, no nontrivial divisible subgroups is easy, methinks.
 
Yeah, it's always exciting when you get that "aha" moment and the problem becomes easier
 
@Rithaniel wow, you're doing homological algebra?
 
6:36 PM
I'm being introduced to it, but yeah
I kind of lack context for where this stuff goes, though
 
 
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8:44 PM
It's quiet tonight
 
8:57 PM
heya guys
is it realistic to study some aspects of the representation thy of some (not so trivial) lie groups?
like the Poincaré group?
or would studying SO(n) be challenging enough?
I'm trying to find a topic for my bachelor's thesis, and I would really like to do sth that has to do with symmetries and possibly the standard model
but I'm just not sure about what is reasonable
also, stuff like Yang-Mills gauge theory sounds conceptually graspable, but I'm not sure how much I would be able to do
I have two supervisors (a math and physics professor), and they're both somewhat leaving me in the dark as far as choosing a specific topic goes, so I'm trying to think of as many ideas as possible to propose to them coming week
 
I really dislike doing research and finding a phrase that I don't understand. Like "It follows that $\phi$ factors through the quotient $B/\text{Im}(\alpha)$." What does "factors through," mean?
 
$\phi$ is a map $B\to C$, and there is a map $\psi\colon B/\mathrm{Im}(\alpha)\to C$ such that the diagram commutes
That is $\psi\circ\pi=\phi$
(where $\pi\colon B\to B\mathrm{Im}(\alpha)$ is the usual projection)
If you think about the functions you're composing as "factors" you are factoring $\phi$ by going through the quotient instead of taking the direct route
 
9:15 PM
Okay, I think I understand
Danke Schön Alessandro
 
I give a talk on Whitney-Graustein tomorrow
 
9:33 PM
@BalarkaSen What's that?
 
If $f_0, f_1 : S^1 \to \Bbb R^2$ are two immersions, then they are smoothly homotopic through immersions iff $\deg G(f_0) = \deg G(f_1)$ where $G(-)$ indicates the Gauss map.
 
Hm weird stuff
 
I have three boards to work with, I plan to draw lots of pictures on 1.5 of the boards and talk about the mathematical details on the other 1.5
Hopefully I can strike the right balance between pictorial arguments and formal math. Leaning too much on either side will make one half of the audience completely lost
A little nervous, never really gave a topology talk to a wider audience before.
I also bet with a friend that in the middle of the talk I will loudly announce "Gromov is God" as a non-sequitur
Should sleep now though, gotta wake up early tomorrow.
Cya
 
Good night
 
10:28 PM
@Sha: Some representation theory should be reasonable. Check out Fulton/Harris's book Representation Theory. It has lots of concrete examples in it. Yang-Mills requires a lot of differential geometry and functional analysis, so I'm not sure if that's reasonable. Plus the people advising you have to be semi-competent on the material you're doing.
 
Hi, demonic @Alessandro.
 
hi chat
 
Hi Semiclassic
 
10:40 PM
typesetting question: If I use an em dash to do a paranthetical, are there spaces before or after the dash?
(I think there aren't any, which is rather inconvenient in Google Docs)
 
No.
But you won't be smote with lightning if you put the spaces (symmetrically, of course).
 
yeah
lol, looks like AP style has it different than Chicago
AP style says spaces before/after, Chicago says no
ah, style
(the issue is that, to have a Google Docs autosubstitute "--" with an em dash, requires you to type "--" and hit space. you can't just type "--a" and have it change to an em-dash immediately. but then it always introduces the space. I guess one solution to that, though, is to always go left one character immediately after doing doing "-- ")
 
10:59 PM
Google docs won't recognize option - or shift-option - ? :D
 
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