Mathematics

12:02 AM

Hmmmm, I suddenly realize that I personally don't know any vegetarian recipes aside from salads, desserts, beans, rice, and "raw fruit."

Ted Shifrin

Yes, @anakhro. A number. Partly because my sister is vegetarian/vegan.

Rithaniel

(For a moment, there, I was wondering why I was the one pinged. :P )

Ted Shifrin

@Eric: I can't argue with you. I do think that your letter-writers might not consider your emotional state and you should take it seriously ... grad school is stressful no matter what.

Because you confuzled me by meddling, @Rithaniel.

Rithaniel

I am a master meddler.

anakhro

It's tough to find vegetarian recipes that are good, I find. Half the time they are crazy vegans who are randomly throwing things into a dish and calling it edible.

Last good one I made was asheh reshteh

Ted Shifrin

12:07 AM

Look at the Green's Cookbook. Fabulous famous restaurant in SF, @anakhro. Also, non-vegetarian cookbooks often have some really good vegetarian recipes (e.g., Julia Child, my idol).

Dair

@anakhro But fruit is like literally candy? amirite :P

Ted Shifrin

I've made a few Afghan vegetable dishes that are totally vegetarian.

Dair

I just looked at the Asheh Reshteh recipe, best part is that noodles are likely high glycemic so I probably can't even eat that if I wanted. Rip.

Rithaniel

I think there are probably plenty of great vegetarian dishes out there, but I don't know if I could enjoy vegan stuff. You lose so much when you cut out milk products.

Dair

well, I mean I could, but I would probably just break out.

Ted Shifrin

12:09 AM

Yeah, I'm not looking for vegan ...

Is that true of non-wheat noodles, @Dair? They make noodles out of everything these days. You could even make zucchini "noodles" (thinly sliced so as to resemble noodles) or use spaghetti squash.

Dair

@TedShifrin Idk about Zucchini "noodles", but I used to have a glucose monitor on me (long story), rice noodles are definitely a huge huge no-no. But "non-wheat" is a pretty broad thing.

anakhro

Thanks I will have a look, Ted!

Rithaniel

There is a thing called almond flour which is often used in baking cakes or pastries. I wonder if you could use it to make noodles.

Dair

i'm allergic to almonds. fml.

Rithaniel

Ah darn

Ted Shifrin

12:12 AM

Almond flour probably not great for noodles.

anakhro

@Dair do you have a condition or something?

I have never heard of acne flairing that bad because of noodles

Ted Shifrin

But they make noodles out of lentils and chickpeas and everything else, @Dair.

Érico Melo Silva

@TedShifrin that’s a fair point i didn’t think of

Ted Shifrin

I don't mean to meddle too much, @Eric, but I know you (from afar) pretty well.

Dair

@anakhro If you're referring to the glucose monitor: Hypoglycemia.

Érico Melo Silva

12:13 AM

well i certainly don’t mind

Dair

As for the restrictions and stuff, it's just 'cause of acne lol.

Ted Shifrin

I'm just saying you'll occasionally be stressed, regardless, @Eric, but you need to gauge where you'll have a higher comfort and pleasure level.

Érico Melo Silva

for sure

Ted Shifrin

But we need you back doing math soon :P

Érico Melo Silva

my family is going to be moving to nearby if i’m in the east coast so that’s another thing :/

ya

Ted Shifrin

12:16 AM

Well, that is a definite factor.

Dair

@ÉricoMeloSilva Rip. A moment of silence. :P

Ted Shifrin

@Eric: For me that would have been a negative.

I happily went cross-country to grad school after being 16 miles away for college. :P

Érico Melo Silva

i think its a positive for me

cuz i was already far

Dair

@ÉricoMeloSilva Well you would also be wrong. :P

Érico Melo Silva

+ my partner is gonna be on the east coast

Ted Shifrin

12:17 AM

Well, then I think I know your decision.

Independent of the factors I think about :P

Érico Melo Silva

yeah that’s what i’m leaning to

but i’m still not settled

@Dair u ain’t know me

Ted Shifrin

FYI, I know someone (one of my undergraduate students/stars) who went to Princeton, hated it, and transferred elsewhere after a year or two.

Dair

@ÉricoMeloSilva I don't need to know you, the theorem is independent of person. :P

Ted Shifrin

Not clear if you could end up at your other high choice with a transfer, but you're not irreparably stuck.

Érico Melo Silva

oooof

what field did they work in

Ted Shifrin

12:19 AM

Number theory.

Érico Melo Silva

ah i see

Ted Shifrin

I was admitted to Princeton and happily chose not to go there :P In those days, even with NSF support, they wanted people out in 3 years, and I just didn't want that attitude. I don't regret my choice one iota.

Érico Melo Silva

:/ i really don’t know, i did like ppl at stanford quite a bit but i’ll be so isolated from ppl i care about

Ted Shifrin

Yeah, that's not good for you. It's a tough call. I say to give it a shot on the east coast and see how it goes. (You might ask Rafe if they consider transfers if you realize you're miserable ... I honestly don't know the answer.)

@Dair: Eric has no problem making friends. It's significant other + family that's the issue.

Érico Melo Silva

yeah^

Dair

12:24 AM

oh. I'm sorry. my bad.

anakhro

@Dair so you have hypoglycemia, or noodles just make your face swell and pus?

Érico Melo Silva

@TedShifrin yeah he told me to email him if i’m struggling w my decisions and i’ll probably take him up on it

Dair

@anakhro The noodles are bad for the acne. Not the hypoglycemia....

Érico Melo Silva

im outta here tho, gotta eat

Ted Shifrin

You definitely should. DEFINITELY.

Bon appétit.

anakhro

12:26 AM

@Dair what things are bad for the acne?

Dair

@anakhro high sugar, high fat.

Ted Shifrin

@Dair: You didn't respond to my alternative pasta and zucchini/spaghetti-squash suggestions. My feelings are hurted.

Dair

@Ted Oh sorry, I'm not a big fan of zucchini honestly, but I might try it lol.

i was too preoccupied with the non-wheat portion of that comment.

anakhro

Try spaghetti squash

It's good.

Ted Shifrin

Yeah, spaghetti squash is great.

Dair

12:29 AM

and how rice is actually sugary af.

anakhro

Just cook it with very little oil

@Dair by sugary, I guess you mean carbs?

Dair

never ceases to amaze me how rice can be so bland yet cause spikes in blood sugar so easily...

anakhro

As for avoiding sugar and fats, try making a curry up to whatever specifications you need/want

Dair

I will look at the spaghetti squash.

@anakhro Don't a lot of curries have milk?

anakhro

No, not really.

Do you run into a problem with potatoes?

Dair

12:31 AM

@anakhro You can get away with limited degrees of things depending on how you are able to balance the protein...

anakhro

Like I mean some curries have milk, but currying is a very generic cooking technique, really.

Dair

like protein basically counter acts sugar/carbs.

"currying is a very generic cooking technique, really." Lol, currying, reminds me of currying functions...

anakhro

Sucks that fats are out.

Dair

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anakhro

I would highly recommend peanut butter curry.

Ted Shifrin

12:32 AM

@Dair: Some Thai curries have coconut milk. But you can use vegetable broth (or chicken broth if you're not vegetarian).

anakhro

You can also just use water.

Ted Shifrin

Water is boring, but yeah.

But coconut milk isn't dairy.

anakhro

I avoid using broths because I never make enough stuff to use the whole container, so I always end up dumping it a week later after it sits in the fridge. :(

Ted Shifrin

It keeps more than a week.

Rithaniel

I need to find a good curry chicken recipe.

Ted Shifrin

12:34 AM

And there's stuff in jars.

I think we've turned into CookingStackExchange.

anakhro

I will try looking for the jarred stuff.

Ted Shifrin

Too vague, @Rithaniel. Thai? Indian? Chinese?

anakhro

The stuff I get usually smells bad in within a week.

Ted Shifrin

Your refrigerator isn't cold enough.

anakhro

I will stick a thermometer in there and measure that, maybe.

Ted Shifrin

12:36 AM

@anakhro: I used to use Better Than Bouillon. I worry about sodium content now, though.

Dair

wait does coconut milk contain actual milk?

Ted Shifrin

No, Dair.

Dair

then I can have coconut milk lol.

Ted Shifrin

It's milky from the flesh of the coconut.

That's my point.

anakhro

I learned how important salt and sugar in spicing was recently, and now I am worried I am going overboard.

In my faux-chinese food I put 2tbsp of it, for about 3-4 people.

Ted Shifrin

12:38 AM

2 tbsp of what?

anakhro

And it feels really sweet when I drop those two spoons in it. Sugar

Ted Shifrin

That's way too much.

I hardly use any sugar in Chinese cooking.

anakhro

It tastes so good though D:

Ted Shifrin

Use hoisin sauce, which has a natural sweetness.

Rithaniel

Hmmm, let's go with Indian.

Ted Shifrin

12:39 AM

LOL.

anakhro

I think the key thing in hoisin sauce would be the vinegar.

That would let you get away with less sugar

Dair

Just add setiva instead.

Ted Shifrin

I think I'm going to leave so the culinary discussion will subside :P

anakhro

Stevia, you mean

See ya later, alligator

Dair

Cya.

I'm sorry I ruined this chat lol.

anakhro

12:40 AM

No it's good, Dair. I love cooking.

Dair

i tend to do that a lot.

Rithaniel

I enjoy cooking as well, though most of my passion comes with the cooking of desserts

anakhro

@Rithaniel re: indian curry chicken, just look up some recipes and sort of meld them together and go by what tastes good to you.

Rithaniel

Fair enough, then that is what I will do.

anakhro

Heavy placement on spices and cooking time, though.

I find high heat kills flavour.

And under spicing leaves you with a horrible dish. But also over spicing is horrible. So test frequently.

Rithaniel

12:49 AM

Indeed, I'm pretty competent at finding a good balance of spices, though I hadn't picked up on high heat killing spices (That might explain what happened to my most recent batch of chilli, actually)

I have a slight tendency to over-salt things, though.

anakhro

Knowing how to deal with that sort of thing is important

Like potatoes suck up salt, you can use something that is acidic, etc.

If you add too much water, you can also suck it up with rice.

Rithaniel

Ah, those are some interesting tricks. You can't always put rice or potatoes in everything, but it's useful stuff to keep in mind.

anakhro

Well with curries you can. ;)

Rithaniel

Ah, good point. Too much math. I'm generalizing too much.

user10478

3:37 AM

Is it possible to differentiate $len_i(f(x))$, the length of $f(x)$ under inner product $i$?

Aryaman Gupta

5:11 AM

Can a mobius loop be mapped into $R^4$ in such a way that there are no self intersections when the boundary of that loop is mapped onto a jordan curve?

Martin Sleziak

6:12 AM

@Isa Since you have mentioned that you were after strike through text and not formula, I have added the tags (formatting) and (markdown) to your post. (The tag (mathjax) seems mor suitable for questions about typing mathematics.)

none

6:29 AM

Hey everyone!

I have a curve $\gamma\colon[0,1] \rightarrow \mathbb{R}$ that's $C^1$ but not necessarily simple. The length of this curve is $\int_{0}^{1}|\gamma^{'}(t)|dt$. But I want to measure the length of the curve which does not overlap with itself. It seems one can simply define a new curve ignoring the overlaps, which will still be at least piecewise $C^1$ and so we can measure it's length. Is there a name for this? Or a name for measuring the non-overlapping part of a curve?

Ah maybe I can just define $X(t) = 0$ if $\gamma(t) < 0$, $X(t) = 1$ if $\gamma(t) \geq 0$ and then just use $\int_{0}^{1}|\gamma ' (t)|X(t)dt$.

No nevermind, this doesn't work. It only ignores the part of the curve the starts looping back on itself, but not the part of the curve that would start returning after moving back.

none

6:55 AM

OKay, so I think a simple way of saying what I need would be the length of the image of the curve, but I want it in terms of $\gamma ' (t)$.

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