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3:00 PM
About four were absent (one had told me he'd be in Italy during the first week), and several are likely in some trouble, @Studentmath for having gotten way too far with way too little solid knowledge. We'll see.
 
Is it snowing at your place?
 
@Huy Because you're applying one vector field to another, or at least damn well trying to. Check that in coordinates this is precilsey what that $XY$ term is. (You subtract because, well, $XY$ isn't actually a vector field - but $XY - YX$ is.)
 
Also, @Ted, my proof (the thingy I was working on for quite long) has been checked and said to be correct, was so relieving
 
@Ted Hey !
 
Back a bit later - I need to buy some food for my lovely pets
 
3:09 PM
@Tedster
is u dere
 
@TedShifrin!
'Cuz I got better aim than that schmo. — Mark Fischler Nov 17 '14 at 18:55
LEL
 
3:25 PM
I woke up this morning, looked outside and saw snow flurries. There was supposed to be a 0% chance of precipitation today
 
3:42 PM
I'm trying to stop watching one piece so that I can do a marathon of it next year but youtube keeps recommending me one piece videos !!!!
 
hi, bananas ... was advising two students
yeah snow flurries, @teadawg ... down to 14º here tonight
hi @leGrandDodo
 
@TedShifrin good, now you can advise another student (me)
where can i find topology exam problems?/
 
well, I have class in a few minutes ... and probably you should get real advice from real people who know you :P
 
@TedShifrin It's getting down to 4º here tonight, and not getting back above freezing until Saturday afternoon
 
wow, @teadawg, that's worser than here
what sort of topology exam problems, bananas?
 
3:49 PM
@Ted no hellos for me? :(
 
@TedShifrin anything and everything...basic topology up to lifting problems
 
@TedShifrin You won't get any of those in San Diego...
 
oh, hi @Balarka
nope, @robjohn ... When I was these young'uns' age, I loved blizzards and three feet of snow, but I'm too old and feeble for that now
 
Oh my, windchill is going to be subzero this afternoon
 
@Ted I attended the altop class yesterday.
 
3:50 PM
aren't the problems in the text you're using good enough, bananas?
 
the students don't remember a thing in basic topology.
 
how was it, @Balarka?
 
@TedShifrin walking in sand can be quite taxing, too.
 
can't even recall how to topologize disjoint unions :P
 
@TedShifrin yes thery're good...but i want moar!
 
3:50 PM
LOL @robjohn
 
@TedShifrin the professor's a good teacher. in fact he's a student of Mike Hopkins :P
 
I have never taught the fundamental group stuff in a course here, bananas, but at some point I can send you exams from my point-set courses (in which I did some analysis as well)
 
@TedShifrin wow that would be amazing
 
ah, Hopkins is good, but it's more MIT algebraic style than geometric, @Balarka
 
@TedShifrin I mean it. For a good workout, jog in the sand rather than on the sidewalk.
 
3:51 PM
I don't jog, @robjohn ... negatively curved feet :P
@Balarka: It's about time you had some good teachers. Enough of dealing with Mike and me.
 
@TedShifrin i'll bug you about that again soon since u got class
 
@TedShifrin :P Well, I'll still bother you guys if I get stuck on something.
 
you'll have to email me, bananas, but I can send you some stuff. Exams aren't usually as hard as course homeworks, of course.
Gee thanks, @Balarka.
 
@TedShifrin ok i'll send u an email
or i could send u a banana
 
oh and @Ted I have figured out how to Hopf fibrate.
 
3:54 PM
Are you sure, @Balarka? I'm puzzled by your struggles, since this is really just algebra.
bananas, a pomegranate would be more interesting.
 
@TedShifrin the map is stupid, the visualization is what i was trying to do.
the map is just $S^3 \to \Bbb C \cup \{\infty\}$ by $(z_0, z_1) \mapsto z_0/z_1$
 
topologists think about in terms of writing $S^3$ as the union of two solid tori, @Balarka
 
@Ted Morning... class soon, eg in five minutes?
 
yes, yes.
that's what i did
 
I also enjoy pomegranates.
 
3:55 PM
for me, @Mike? in a few more minutes, but yes ... proving uniform continuity and integrability for starters today
 
@TedShifrin it's hard to write on those, but i'll send u one to eat
 
LOL, ok, bananas
 
Analysis 2?
 
@Ted the hint i got was $S^1 * S^1 = S^3$ and i couldn't figure anything out from it so i got a load of smacks from prof (not the altop professor, but the geometric topologist cum hyperbolic geometer guy)
but now i think i know how to think about this
 
no, starting the integration part of my multivariable math course, @Mike
you shouldn't joke about all the smacks, @Balarka
 
3:57 PM
take a solid torus in $\Bbb R^3$. the complement is actually a solid torus minus a point.
 
Ah, is this part 2? Or are you just devilishly fast?
 
this is part 2, @Mike
 
so if you one-point compactify R^3 to get S^3, you'll get a union of two solid torii intersecting at boundary, which is just a torus
 
When you say uniform I suspect you're being rigorous about it.
 
@Balarka: That's related to my putting the point at infinity on one of your circles when you were trying to do the Hopf link.
 
3:58 PM
ah?
 
absolutely, @Mike ... We've proved the maximum value theorem rigorously last semester (for compact subsets of $\Bbb R^n$)
 
@BalarkaSen what's algebraic topology about?
 
@iwriteonbananas studying algebraic invariants of topological objects
 
try not to flunk English and history, in the meantime, @Balarka
 
@BalarkaSen how hard is it?
 
3:59 PM
@iwriteonbananas very
 
@BalarkaSen u scare me...i cant decide whether or not to take alg top course
 
@Ted I'm glad to hear it.
 
@iwriteonbananas you should take it
@TedShifrin i am good at English!
I got the highest this final!
 
@BalarkaSen i'll just flip a coin
 
"i've got a bee on my bonnet"
see, i can really English
:P
 
4:02 PM
uh huh
ok, I'm off to class ... Y'all have fun.
 
That's not the phrase, @Ted
 
@TedShifrin enjoy
 
@robjohn did you understand my way or I send you the proof (when I'm done)?
 
If you like thinking geometrically and at the same time have algebra as your stronghold, take it.
@iwriteonbananas
 
@Chris'ssis I understand what you are doing, I just don't think it will be that much simpler. It might be a bit simpler since the DUIS will take the place of my integration by parts, but then you need to integrate, although that might be simple.
 
4:05 PM
@BalarkaSen neither of those really applies to me :/
 
Then don't. Duh.
 
@Chris'ssis I also think that to cover $-\frac12\lt\alpha\lt\frac12$ DUIS will need to be applied twice
 
@BalarkaSen alrighty
 
@robjohn Well, I think it's more simpler than a bit (subjectively speaking). I think it's enough to apply it once.
 
Don't take the last sentence seriously, @iwriteonbananas
OK, let's see : what kind of mathematics do you do/like to think about?
 
4:08 PM
@BalarkaSen analysis is my fav
topology can be fun too tho
but it's harder than analysis lol
 
Let K denote a simplicial complex and Y some topological space. Let us also denote by Kn the n-skeleton of K. I would like to have an example for the following situation:

There is a map f1:K1→Y that can be extended to f2:K2→Y and yet no such extension can be further extended to f3:K3→Y.
 
i can't see analysis
 
@BalarkaSen hataz gonna hate
 
@Chris'ssis Show me, then :-)
 
i don't want to be a riemannian geometer and work with epsilons all day, thanks @iwriteonbananas
 
4:11 PM
@robjohn I referred to the quadratic version (not to the cubic one).
 
@BalarkaSen $\epsilon$s can be fun!
 
Anyone for topology?
 
@BalarkaSen i dont even know what riemannian geometers do
 
Huy
@iwriteonbananas: They work with epsilons all day!
 
@Huy i see thanks
 
4:11 PM
@Chris'ssis yeah... that's the one I've done. Is there a question with a cube?
 
@robjohn Sure, the one created by me with 3 as a power.
 
@iwriteonbananas they're kind of things like manifolds out there, locally which looks like R^n. a riemannian manifold is a kind of manifold with "curvature" always positive. riemannian geometry is about study of these manifolds.
 
@user159870 Topology can be quite fine!
 
@BalarkaSen ok, ted does that stuff no?
 
@robjohn

Let K denote a simplicial complex and Y some topological space. Let us also denote by Kn the n-skeleton of K. I would like to have an example for the following situation:

There is a map f1:K1→Y that can be extended to f2:K2→Y and yet no such extension can be further extended to f3:K3→Y.
 
4:13 PM
Ted is a differential geometer, and [added]i have no idea[/added] what differential geometers do nobody knows :P
 
Let $f(x)$ be an irreducible polynomial over $F$ of degree $n$, and let $E$ be a field
extension of $F$ with $[E:F]=m$. If $\gcd(m, n)=1$, show that $f$ is irreducible over $E$.

I have the following:

We suppose that $f$ is not irreducible over $E$, Then $\exists a \in E$ with $f(a)=0$, $f(x)=g(x) \cdot h(x), g, h \in E[x]$, where $g$ is irreducible.

$$F \leq F(a) \leq E$$

$Irr(a, F)=f(x)$

$[E:F]=[E:F(a)][F)a):F] \Rightarrow m =[E:F(a)] \cdot n \Rightarrow n \mid m$

which is a contradiction, sonce $\gcd(n, m)=1$
 
@user159870 I was making a play on words. I've never dealt with simplicial complexes.
@Chris'ssis That's not on main, is it?
 
@user159870 Well, how about Y being a 2-complex?
 
@robjohn No
 
4:17 PM
Let X be a 3-dimensional simplicial complex and Y be a 2-dimensional simplicial complex.
Then f_3 is just a constant map.
 
@robjohn Analytic continuation? I didn't put things on paper yet, but this is definitely a tiny issue. My proof is very fast. :-)
 
(Y is noncontractible)
 
@Chris'ssis That works, but this problem could be offered to a calculus class where complex analysis is not a prerequisite
 
@robjohn Even differentiating twice is a very easy job to do, the same with the integration.
 
Analytic continuation is not elementary, @Chris'ssis
 
4:22 PM
@robjohn I'm a great defender of my proofs. :-)
 
@Chris'ssis I'm sure it works, and it may be simpler since DUIS is a known process, whereas the integration by parts is a custom relation for this question. It would be a worthwhile answer to post, if only to show different approaches.
@Chris'ssis The Integration by parts performs the same function as the DUIS; it reduces the exponent of $(u+\alpha)$ by one
 
@robjohn Yeah, true.
 
@Chris'ssis until it falls into a range that we can apply the Beta Integral
 
@robjohn Yeap.
@robjohn It's a tricky integral, even sos had some difficulties with it.
 
@Chris'ssis Yeah, it looks deceptively simple, but the details get tough
 
4:26 PM
@robjohn I saw integrals for so long, but not this one that has such a simple form of the integrand!
 
I'm thinking of posting a proof verification problem. Should I post my proof as an answer?
That way it can be accepted if it's correct, or edited as a CW?
 
@robjohn Did you meet it before? Maybe a long time ago, or something similar to it?
 
@user159870 You're asking a question about obstruction theory. For the general case you might see chapter 4 of Hatcher's book, but it should be written down in any algebraic topology book that covers homotopy theory.
 
does anyone know if that graph has a name?
 
For your particular question, triangulate the 3-ball such that the 2-skeleton is the 2-sphere, and let Y have nontrivial \pi_2. Pick a homotopically nontririvial $K_2 \to Y$; you can pick the map from $K_1$ to be the restriction to the 1-skeleton of this map.
 
4:31 PM
it's like a wheel graph without an external edge
 
This map can't extend to $K_3$, as such an extension would define a null-homotopy of your map from $S^2$.
 
@BalarkaSen I understand many mathematical tools in a personal way (I often rediscover them). One day I'll be able to explain them even to a middle school kid.
 
If in addition you picked $\pi_1(Y)=0$ then you could have extended any map from $K_1$ to $K_2$, not just this particular one.
Ah, I misread. No such extension can be extended further. Let me think.
I suspect picking $Y=S^2$ and the map from $K_1$ being the restriction of the identity map should do the trick, if triangulated so that $K_1$ is the octahedron.
No, that's wrong. Darn. I don't have time to think more about this right now. You should post it on main, @user159870
 
@robjohn That reminds me of another question of mine you answered some time ago. Again, a tricky question where one carefully needs to treat the integral.
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Q: Evaluating $\int_0^1 \frac{t^{a-1}}{1-t}-\frac{ct^{b-1}}{1-t^c}\ dt$

Chris's sisAt first sight it looks like the integral below $$\int_0^1 \frac{t^{a-1}}{1-t}-\frac{ct^{b-1}}{1-t^c}\ dt$$ can be evaluated by using some geometric series. What else can we do? Is there a fast easy way to finish it?

@robjohn ^^^
People usually miss the log part here :-)
@BalarkaSen will you buy my book when I publish it? I might have a gold edition. Oh, no. I think I'm going to give you a free copy. :-)
 
4:48 PM
Hm... my strategy of triangulating the sphere can't possibly work. If you can extend the map to the whole sphere, you can do it in such a way that the map is homotopically trivial. I wonder if there is such a situation as you describe?
I guess my next strategy would be to fiddle with the torus instead, where \pi_1 is the whole story. Fun problem.
Yes, it can be done with the torus
Solid torus / torus / triangulation of torus are the skeleta
Pick "vertical circle" to be homotoically nontrivial, all others trivial; can extend to 2-skeleton; extension to 3-skeleton would be null-homotopy
 
5:15 PM
Evening, people :).
 
@Lord_Farin it's barely morning ;-)
@Chris'ssis when will it be published?
 
@robjohn Woah, did I just work all through the night, then? :)
I wouldn't really know the difference in these winter times :P.
Diner calls.
 
@robjohn I plan to publish it by the end of the year but this depends on the articles I manage to publish (it might take even more). I need to publish more articles and then to propose problems to more mathematical magazines. This is very important for many reasons. Wow, that day will be the best day in my life! :-)
 
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@Lord_Farin which diner?
 
@robjohn @TedShifrin worked for many years on his books, and I understand that, but I hope to finish things somewhat faster. It would be great to be able to publish it till the end of the year.
@robjohn I'm not concerned with the problems, I have tons of problems and solutions, but I'm concerned with the style of writing the book, with the way I present and explain things.
 
5:29 PM
@Chris'ssis It depends on the content of the book. Textbooks need to have a lot of material. Other books can be published which don't need as much material, as long as what they have is of interest.
 
Yeap.
 
@Chris'ssis: Just so you know. If you use a real publisher, it usually takes several years to get a book to appear.
 
Sigh. No chat dweller on Antarctica.
 
Did something happen to mathjax? The world is changed, I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air . Much that once was is lost; for none now live who remember it.
 
Such sad.
 
5:31 PM
@TedShifrin Springer
 
Have you sent them sample manuscript (usually a few chapters) and they've agreed to publish it, @Chris'ssis?
 
@TedShifrin Not yet.
 
It takes more time than you realize.
 
@TedShifrin 2 chapters are enough
 
And they will send it out for review to decide if they want to publish it or not.
Table of contents plus a few chapters is usually enough.
@Balarka: Maybe you should move to Antarctica?
 
5:33 PM
@TedShifrin I'm 100% they'll love what I propose and will be glad to publish my book.
 
I'd be better fit on Alaska.
 
Hi @Ted, did you receive my message?
 
B alaska
 
@Chris'ssis: You may be right or you may not. :)
Oh, it was past my bedtime last night, @Don
@Don: I tell my advisees never to take more than two maths, occasionally a third if they're extremely strong students and one of the classes isn't hard.
 
In any case, @Ted, I've got lung congestion.
 
5:35 PM
Oh, @Balarka, then India is not a good place for you, is it?
 
India is not a good place for anybody.
 
I was referring to the air/climate.
 
I was referring to everything.
Air/climate included.
 
@TedShifrin Well, there are many variables they take into account, that's clear, but if referring to the mathematical content, I'll guarantee you that anybody sees my way to the first problem proposed by Ramanujan, which is the first problem in my book, will fall in love with my style, deeply. Each solution is meant to be mind-blowing. :-)
 
You sound as unhappy as Jasper, @Balarka.
 
5:36 PM
It's hot like hell in the summer.
 
@Ted: I am taking three maths and two programming courses.
actually one is programming/math
 
yeah, @Balarka. I hate humid heat ... one reason I'm not staying here in Georgia.
 
so 2.5/2.5
 
California can be a dangerous place @Ted
 
Personally, @Don, I think undergraduates should do something besides just math/CS/physics ... one class different.
 
5:37 PM
You can easily get blown up by a tornado one fine morning.
:P
 
No, tornados are here, not there.
We often have tornado warnings, but so far my house is still standing.
 
Ah.
 
California has earthquakes and bad drought and fires.
 
@TedShifrin do you think it matters much for the publisher if the author that wants to publish a math book has no background in mathematics?
As long as the content is great it shouldn't matter I think.
 
I think it probably does matter, yes. Reviewers will have to insist that it be published, regardless.
 
5:41 PM
@Ted: Like what?
 
@TedShifrin Hope all will be fine.
 
Me too, @Chris'ssis.
Don't you have requirements to take various courses, @Don, or did you finish them all?
 
@Alizter Nailed it!
 
@Ted: I finished them all and some more.
 
$f(x)=x^3-2 \n \mathbb{Q}[x]$

The root are $\sqrt[3]{2}, \omega \sqrt[3]{2}, \omega^2 \sqrt[3]{2}$

Splitting field: $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt[3]{2}, \omega)$

So that $\mathbb{Q} \leq \mathbb{Q}(\sqrt[3]{2}, \omega)$ is an Galois extension, it has to be normal and separable.

The extension is normal since $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt[3]{2}, \omega)$ is the splitting field of polynomials of $\mathbb{Q}$.

Could you explain to me why the extension is separable??
 
5:45 PM
OK, @Don: I just think it's good for your psyche and your brain to do something non-math while you have the chance. Once you're out of college, those opportunities are just totally on your own dime :P I don't know what your interests are, so I won't impose.
@MaryStar: The polynomial has distinct roots. Done. Alternatively, you're working in characteristic $0$.
 
@Ted: I've already taken advantage of that opportunity in S'14 and F'14.
 
OK, @Don. So what are the 2.5 maths?
 
num analysis 2, number theory, topology
 
oh num analysis has some serious stuff in it ... probably doing PDEs second semester?
what level courses for the other two?
 
Good afternoon folks
 
5:51 PM
I did pde 1 and I didn't like it @Ted. the others are 3000 level
 
@TedShifrin Have a second for a foundations of analysis question that's bugging me?
 
@TedShifrin Ok... I see... Thanks!!
 
@TedShifrin no matter how good you are, in life you also need to meet the right persons. I'm glad I met a great Romanian that believed in my ideas, problems, solutions.
 
@robjohn Just daily dinner.
 
The book I'm going to publish will also be dedicated to those that never believed in me. I'll have a damn good book!
I'll do it no matter the obstacles!
:-)
 
5:58 PM
@Ted Earthquakes and fires are not such a big deal. The drought might be the worst problem we've got right now.
 
Out for jogging now.
 
@Chris'ssis Great spirit :).
 
Do you guys get firenados there, @Mike @Ted?
 
@Lord_Farin Thank you :-)
 
@BalarkaSen I've never heard of one in Georgia. We don't have a lot of wildfires here because its a reasonably wet area not under a heavy drought.
 
6:06 PM
I see, @Kevin
 
6:32 PM
how can I type the symbol used to write Erdös correctly?
 
hi @Kevin: Sorry, a student was in here
 
@Jorge Most keyboards will require you to copy-paste an existing instance, or learn the Alt-code.
 
@Jorge: \"o
oh, I thought you meant in LaTeX
 
thanks
yeah, I meant in mathjax
 
@TedShifrin No, the diacritics in Erdös are supposed to be slanted.
 
6:35 PM
oh, right, @Lord ... grrr
 
Eardish
 
@Ted No worries
 
That's how you spell it.
 
OK, it's \H o for the Hungarian accent
$\H o$
 
Ho.
 
6:37 PM
not in MathJax ... apparently
 
@TedShifrin Then, MathJax is for, well, math.
 
yeah, right ... \H o is supposed to work in plain TeX, even, but I don't know.
 
@Ted I was wondering. If we construct the reals with Dedekind cuts and then identify a subset of them as isomorphic to the rationals, it seems we can just get rid of whatever notions of the rationals we had before and make ALL the real numbers from Dedekind cuts. But then there's some kind of strange self-reference problem. What the cut that corresponds to $1/2$? Well its the set of all rationals less than 1/2.
But each of those is itself a set of all the rationals less than it. And so on ad infinitum. It's just sets all the way down and you don't even get to any "foundation." Is this a problem?
 
Huy
Anyone seen The Imitation Game yet?
 
@Kevin: No, I think you need to start from scratch with $\Bbb Z$, build $\Bbb Q$, and then they sit embedded in $\Bbb R$ in whatever fashion you wish. I personally prefer the completion with equivalence classes of Cauchy sequences to Dedekind cuts, but ... whatever.
 
6:50 PM
@Ted Ok. That seems like the only reasonable thing. It just sort of chafes my intuition because the cuts seem ALMOST good enough to just construct all of the reals from scratch.
It's like you can't "erase your footsteps" in some sense.
 
No, you need the foundation on which to build the structure, @Kevin.
 
You know of a space with fundamental group $\Bbb Q$, @Ted?
Must be super-pathological.
 
No, I don't.
 
@robjohn how would you rate the problem we discussed about as difficulty?
 
Hard to imagine every element being arbitrarily divisible, @Balarka.
 
6:55 PM
Yes, @Huy. Quality as a movie. Likely quite historically inaccurate. Painted Turing as some sort of autistic, for which I don't know if there's any significant evidence. I hope one day there's a movie about a mathematician in which he or she's portrayed as sane.
 
@TedShifrin Indeed.
 
First we'd have to have a sane mathematician, @Mike.
 
@Chris'ssis moderate... it wasn't the hardest problem, but it did require some insight to get the result.
 
Mathematicians are isane @Mike
 
Huy
@MikeMiller: Do you consider Mr. Hunting to be insane?
 
6:56 PM
But Hodges's book on which the movie is based is a great biography.
 
LOL @Ted you beat me to it
 
Good point, @Huy. There's a good one.
 
But, @Huy, that one was fictitious.
 
@robjohn Yeap, I agree. Using the proper tool, everything becomes pretty easy.
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: True. Maybe that's why he's kind of sane.
:(
 
6:57 PM
@Lord_Farin Ah... you had said diner, so I was going with that.
 
Proof is also about a sane mathematician.
 
@robjohn An unfortunate typo :).
 
@Ted I think it's high time they made a Ted Shifrin movie.
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LOL @Mike
 
@Lord_Farin I figured, but couldn't help myself :-)
 
Huy
6:58 PM
@MikeMiller: Was just wondering because I saw the trailer last night before Hunger Games and it looked pretty cool, as a movie. It's not out in many parts of Europe yet, afaik.
 
@Huy Very good movie.
 
@Mike Who will be cast to play you in such a movie?
 
Huy
Played by himself.
 
His big break, no doubt
 
Maybe the movie'll start with Ted smacking some guy...
 
7:00 PM
My You-Tube existence is far more than I deserve, no thanks to @Hippa.
 
I'm just hoping I get a part. I've been looking to get an Erdos-Bacon number for some time.
 
How is the Erdos-Bacon number related ot the Erdos and Bacon numbers?
 
@Mike you have an Erdos number < infty?
 
it's the sum.
 
@KevinDriscoll $$\text{Erdos-Bacon number} = \displaystyle\frac{\text{Erdos number of all people on earth} - \text{number of time Erdos have eaten bacon}}{\text{number of times you have to smash your head in the wall before figuring out a solution to the Collatz conjecture}}$$
2
 
7:04 PM
Somebody ask Mike if he has an erdos number
he has me on ignore :P
 
@BalarkaSen Alright. @MikeMiller Do you have a finite Erdos number?
 
Not yet, but that one I feel like I have a better shot at :)
 
So, basically you're pinning all you hopes on this Ted bio-pic.......a wise choice
 
@TedShifrin thanks
 
I think the more generally used term is biopic. A bio-pic, I assume, is a picture printed on a writhing mass of flesh.
 
7:08 PM
Hahah
 
7:20 PM
@Chris'ssis did you ever contact paul nahin?
 
7:31 PM
Hey all!
 
hi @Khallil
 
@KhallilBenyattou hella
 
How've you been, @Ted and @user153330?
 
@Ted?
 
Hey @Balarka!
 
7:44 PM
@KhallilBenyattou as good as tomorrow
“If your vector space is a shopping cart full of groceries, then the checkout clerk is a linear operator on that space.”
— Bill Burke, Div, Grad, and Curl are Dead
 
“There are two ways to learn homological algebra - the Bourbaki way, which starts with derived functors; and the other way, which starts with examples.”
 
Huy
@user153330: Are you a quote bot?
 
as long as you get to both
where are you getting these?
 
?
what happends to your reputation if you delete an upvoted answer'
 
7:59 PM
@JorgeFernández it decreases
 
I deleted one and nothing happened
mabye its because I'm over the cap today
 
@JorgeFernández you have to wait a bit before the effect gets done, or it's just the cap
 

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