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12:00 AM
true
@psie the leftover factor, difference between $\lfloor b\rfloor$ and $b$, will converge to zero because $(-1)^n/n$ does. That's why it's irrelevant and the limit is just the series $\sum (-1)^n/n$
You can replace this by any convergent series to see that $\lim_{b\to\infty}\int_0^b f = \sum a_n$
And if the series is absolutely convergent then $\int f$ will exist and equal $\sum a_n$
of course if the series isn't absolutely convergent then the limit is $\int f = \sum a_n$ as well, just in the Henstock-Kurzweil sense
Lebesgue integration is only concerned with absolutely convergent things, so it can't capture conditional convergence well
but of course there's other benefit of it being very general
12:17 AM
@Jakobian let $f=\sum a_n$ be the function such that $\int |f|=\sum n^{-1}$. You are first applying $\left|\sum a_n\right|\leq\sum |a_n|$, so by monotonicity $\int|f|=\int \left|\sum a_n\right|\leq\int\sum|a_n|$ and then simply applying additivity of the integral for nonnegative measurable functions, i.e. $\int\sum|a_n|=\sum\int |a_n|=\sum n^{-1}$, but wouldn't that give us $\int |f|\leq \sum n^{-1}$?
Here $a_n=n^{-1}(-1)^n\chi_{(n,n+1]}$.
Hence $\sum\int |a_n|=\sum n^{-1}$.
@psie It's late. My first sentence here should read something like; let $f=\sum a_n$ be the function with $a_n=n^{-1}(-1)^n\chi_{(n,n+1]}$.
12:35 AM
Meeh. I think I'll just work with the positive part of $f$ instead. Makes it easier for me to understand why $f$ is not Lebesgue integrable. Anyway, good night!
12:57 AM
@psie $f = \sum a_n\cdot \chi_{(n, n+1)}$
"such that ..." ?
"You are first applying ..." no
"so by monotonicity ..." no $|f| = \sum |a_n|\cdot \chi_{(n, n+1)}$
@psie that's really unnecessary but I can't stop you
 
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2:32 AM
Given a non-empty subset $X$ of $\mathbb{N}$, is it possible to show that there is at least two ultrafilters containing $X$?
2:54 AM
@user193319 No because thats not true
If $X$ is a singleton then its contained in a unique ultrafilter
But if $X$ has at least two elements, then you can deduce that at least two ultrafilters contain $X$
Damn... was thinking at that was the case...hmm...
So, the singleton containing that unique ultrafilter will give us an open set in $\beta \mathbb{N}$...hmm...
Yes, corresponding to a natural number
Not good...I want to be able to partition $\beta \mathbb{N}$ into proper non-empty clopen subsets...
Like, given any proper non-empty clopen subset of $\beta \mathbb{N}$, I want to find other non-empty proper clopen subsets $B$ and $C$ such that $A$, $B$, and $C$ partition $\beta \mathbb{N}$...hmm...maybe I'll have to treat that as a special case...hmm.
@user193319 $\beta\mathbb{N}\setminus\{n\}$ and $\{n\}$ where $n\in\mathbb{N}$
Yeah, but I need to always be able to partition into three sets...
3:00 AM
@user193319 Yeah. This is not possible in general
So, that's one way $\beta \mathbb{N}$ and the cantor space differ...hmm...maybe there's a way around it...I'll have to let it rattle in my head for a bit.
are you proving the two aren't homeomorphic?
No, I'm trying to do Thompson group stuff but with $\beta \mathbb{N}$ instead of the Cantor space.
I don't know what that is, good luck I suppose
Thanks! I'll probably be back.
Oh, just to clarify, the only ultrafilter that contains $\{n\}$ is the principal ultrafilter---is that what you are claiming?
3:04 AM
yes
every free ultrafilter only contains infinite sets
Ah, yes, that's right. Thanks!
Do you know whether $Homeo(\beta \mathbb{N})$ contains free groups?
If it doesn't, then this whole thing could blow up in my face...there should be lots of free groups with Thompson-like group stuff.
And since we're at the topic of clopen sets, you can decompose $\beta\mathbb{N}$ into copies homeomorphic to itself by decomposing $\mathbb{N}$ into finite amount of infinite sets $A_1, ..., A_n$ then $\overline{A_1}, ..., \overline{A_n}$ are clopen, homeomorphic to $\beta\mathbb{N}$, disjoint and their union is $\beta\mathbb{N}$.
You can also decompose $\mathbb{N}$ into infinite amount of such sets, but the union won't be necessarily equal to $\beta\mathbb{N}$ then
Oh, very nice!
That's a good sign. We need that sort of self-similarity to do Thompson group stuff.
Maybe that's helpful to you somehow
Yes, definitely helpful! We can do the same thing with the Cantor set, and basically the Thompson groups are groups of homeomorphisms which swap/permute these homeomorphic copies.
3:09 AM
@user193319 Any self-homeomorphism of $\beta\mathbb{N}$ will fix $\mathbb{N}$ and so it will be induced by a bijection of $\mathbb{N}$
that is $\text{Homeo}(\beta\mathbb{N})$ as a group is the same as bijections from $\mathbb{N}$ to $\mathbb{N}$
Ah, yes. And bijections of $\mathbb{N}$ will induce homeomorphisms of $\beta \mathbb{N}$.
And we should be able to build free groups in $Sym(\mathbb{N})$ which will embed into $Homeo(\beta \mathbb{N})$.
Yes since it contains all the symmetric groups
Oh, yeah, every countable group embeds into $Sym(\mathbb{N})$.
all finite groups should be contained in it
Ah yes, all countable groups, per Cayley's theorem
Interesting...I wonder if it is possible to construct a free group in $Homeo(\beta \mathbb{N})$ that not in the image of the embedding of $Sym(\mathbb{N})$ into $Homeo(\beta \mathbb{N})$...that sounds hard...
3:13 AM
I'm not sure why are you asking this, like I said the two are literally the same as groups in the sense that $f\mapsto f\restriction_\mathbb{N}$ is a map from one to the other which is a group isomorphism
Really? You're saying $Sym(\mathbb{N})$, the group of bijections of $\mathbb{N}$, is isomorphic to $Homeo(\beta \mathbb{N})$? That doesn't sound right to me.
Yes, that's correct
Hmm...maybe it does make sense...
If $f:\beta\mathbb{N}\to\beta\mathbb{N}$ is a homeomorphism then necessarily $f(\mathbb{N}) = \mathbb{N}$ so that $f\restriction_\mathbb{N}$ is a bijection of $\mathbb{N}$
Why does that necessarily hold? I'm being a knucklehead right now.
$f(\mathbb{N}) = \mathbb{N}$?
3:19 AM
and if $g:\mathbb{N}\to\mathbb{N}$ is a bijection of $\mathbb{N}$, then treated as map $\mathbb{N}\to\beta\mathbb{N}$ and then by Cech-Stone compactification property taking extension $g^\beta:\beta\mathbb{N}\to\beta\mathbb{N}$ we can see that $g^\beta$ is actually a homeomorphism since its inverse is $(g^{-1})^\beta$
@user193319 yes because each $n\in\mathbb{N}$ has countable system of neighbourhoods in $\beta\mathbb{N}$, which is not true for any $p\in \beta\mathbb{N}\setminus\mathbb{N}$
i.e. its first countable at $n$ but not at $p$
such local properties need to be preserved
3:33 AM
@user193319 to clarify, any closed $G_\delta$ subset of $\beta X$ disjoint from $X$ must contain a copy of $\beta\mathbb{N}$, which is of size $2^\mathfrak{c}$, so that no $p\in\beta X\setminus X$ can be $G_\delta$. Here $X$ is some Tychonoff space.
Well, this isn't exactly elementary
another way that I see is to use that every clopen set of $\beta\mathbb{N}$ is of the form $\overline{A}$ for some $A\subseteq \mathbb{N}$ and $\beta\mathbb{N}$ has basis of clopen sets
Since $\mathcal{U}\in\overline{A}$ iff $A\in\mathcal{U}$, the claim can be reduced to that there is no sequence $(A_n)\subseteq\mathcal{U}$ such that for every other ultrafilter, some $A_m$ doesn't belong to it
And you should be able to prove that there's at least two ultrafilters which contain the sequence $(A_n)$
4:03 AM
To do this you can for example assume that the sequence $(A_n)$ is strictly decreasing and consider the ultrafilter containing $\bigcup_n (A_{2n}\setminus A_{2n+1})$ and the one containing its complement
That is, consider filters generated by $(A_n)$ and those sets, and extend them to ultrafilters
okay, elementary
 
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8:58 AM
Hi 👋
9:16 AM
hi
do you think an omnipotent god would be able to carry out Banach Tarski as an experiment
9:56 AM
I know an omnipotent god, I have to ask them.
 
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11:05 AM
lol
 
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12:37 PM
for the (usual) definition of a manifold, are charts judged to be continuous with respect to the appropriate subspace topologies?
i.e. a manifold has the data $(\mathbb{R}^m, \tau_d)$ and $(X, \tau)$. a chart is then a map $\varphi: U \to K$ where $U \in \tau$ and $K \in \tau_d$. To say that $\varphi$ is continuous, do I consider the subspace topologies induced on $U$ and $K$?
12:48 PM
Inspired by math.stackexchange.com/q/4969936/207316 I made some Greek cross tessellations in SVG. Eg,
 
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2:01 PM
@SillyGoose if $f:X\to A$ where $A\subseteq Y$ then $f$ is continuous as a function into $A$ iff its continuous as a function into $Y$
But for $U$ you need subspace topology, yes
2:32 PM
@SillyGoose What other topologies could you reasonably consider? :)
2:43 PM
Folland states in his book, when comparing the Riemann integral with the Lebesgue integral:
> In the Lebesgue theory, the assumption that $f$ is measurable removes the necessity of considering both upper and lower approximations.
What is it about (the definition of) measurability that removes this necessity?
@psie I don't have Folland in front of me right now---my recollection is that this is basically encapsulated in his definition of the Lebesgue integral.
That is, look at how the integral of a measurable function is actually defined.
@XanderHenderson Hmm, ok. Well, the integral of a measurable real-valued function goes back to the definition of nonnegative measurable functions, which in turn goes back to the definition of the integral of simple function (which are measurable by definition). I'm really not sure what he means, but perhaps he is alluding to the fact that a real-valued or complex-valued function can be approximated from below by simple functions and thus we are only concerned with "lower approximations".
@psie notice the lemma that any non-negative function $f$ can be approximated from below by a sequence of non-negative simple functions $f_n$
@psie Right. That's about what I thought. Measurable functions can be monotonically approximated by simple functions.
(I only read the first half of the message at first)
2:56 PM
Ok.
@Jakobian any nonnegative measurable $f$ :)
@psie my simple functions aren't assumed to be measurable
Oh, ok.
I guess one could develop analogously that every nonpositive measurable function can be approximated from above by nonpositive (measurable) simple functions. Then we'd solemnly get an "upper approximation" I guess.
I don't know if it would actually yield an "upper approximation". Now that I'm used to the theory with nonnegative functions, rewriting the theory in terms of nonpositive functions seems...convoluted.
3:21 PM
@psie no that's not it
the idea of the lemma is that you aren't approaching things from above or below, you are approaching it based on range of $f$
as opposed to Riemann approach where the rectangles need to be uniform, in this approach we take rectangles based on the range of $f$
look at this visualization
@Jakobian hmm ok 👍 but if we had a nonpositive $f$, then the conclusion of the lemma for $f$ would be that we'd approximate it from above by nonpositive simple function, right?
 
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4:28 PM
is a metric required to construct a cotangent space on a manifold?
4:41 PM
this question does not really make sense to me
5:12 PM
Find the exact value of sin(y) given that y in in quadrant IV & sec(y)=$\frac{{6\sqrt3}{5}$ My work led me to the answer that sin(y) should be $\frac{\sqrt249}{18}$ does this seem correct?
Mad
Mad
I feel like i failed as an undergraduate physicst for never learning differential geometry.
I am asking myself if i will ever have the time in the future to learn it, or relearn earlier concepts
it feels like i am constantly pushed from one deadline to another, never having time to reflect and do my own reading.
Any advice from more advanced people on how it should be looking like in the future?
@VulpesInculta your LaTeX is broken
@Jakobian does it work differently in chat or did I enter it in error again?
you just made an error
LATEX in chat: tinyurl.com/cfqcvpc
did you see this link to install the bookmark (well, copy paste the script) so you can see LaTeX in chat?
also see the chat description (I'm not throwing random links)
you have an extra {
5:26 PM
@Jakobian yes I saw it & made the book mark I am able to see LaTex in chat now & yes my question looks pretty messed up.
 
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6:42 PM
@Jakobian I skimmed through both videos, the second one by BBC does not seem to explain the idea of partitioning the range. I still think that, if we have a nonpositive function, and we partition its range, then, since the integral will be negative, our approximation will be an upper bound to the integral. In that sense, we can speak of upper approximations when talking about the Lebesgue integral too.
Find the exact value of $sin(y)$ given that $y$ is in Quadrant IV and $sec(y)$=$\frac{6\sqrt3}{5}$ my work led me to the answer $sin(y)$=$\frac{\sqrt249}{18}$. Does this seem correct.
@Jakobian thanks for the MathJax link.
if $y$ is in the fourth quadrant, shouldn't $\sin y$ be less or equal that $0$?
I guess so. Would that make the answer $sin(y)$=$-\frac{\sqrt249}{18}$? That makes as $sin$ should be negative in the fourth quadrant. This is of course depending on whether or not $\frac{\sqrt249}{18}$ is correct anyway.
I guess you mean $\sqrt{249}$
@psie so for nonpositive functions, the Lebesgue integral is an upper approximation, for nonnegative functions it is a lower approximation
6:50 PM
@psie Well, you know, they don't have to speak about negative functions
they did define Lebesgue integral to be equal to a difference of integrals - of the positive and negative part
@psie sure, but thats not really important is it. We can restrict our view to only non-negative functions
you do the same when trying to talk about Riemann integrals as area under the curve
Hi everyone, am I the only one having this issue with the website? The cursor moves out of the editable text form as soon as I attempt to post a comment or answer.
ok 👍 I'm not really sure what I'm asking anymore :)
@CroCo that sounds like its on your end
yeah, I don't have any problems. I test-posted a comment. Worked fine
@Jakobian my windows is up to date and the chrome is as well.
It is strange.
6:57 PM
@CroCo that doesn't mean there can't be problems with your computer such as viruses or other types of harmful programs
or annoying programs
or its an issue with a, mouse maybe
who knows
I do have anti-viruses software. I've noticed this after there was an update few days ago in windows 10.
yeah, those aren't exactly safe, and can harm your computer
they, theoretically, shouldn't, but they can
The only thing works now the chat editable text form :)
(not to mention windows 10 is a spyware from what I heard)
:<
7:01 PM
I use windows myself, but if you care about security, privacy and such, then yeah, windows isn't the best, actually
But why stackoverflow is the only website suffers in my case.
I don't know, I think one would have to investigate the issue more
I've noticed not all Stackoverflow suffer from this issue. For example, for superuser.com, no issue.
In addition, if I click on browsing scroll window to select between different sites, the scroll window disappears quickly.
The main stackoverflow site (i.e. orange color) has no issue.
@SineoftheTime Yes that is what I meant
looks good, but you can simplify the fraction
7:23 PM
Hii
@Pizza long time no see
I'm paraphrasing Folland:
> Consider $z\in\mathbb C$ and $\mathrm{Re}(z)>0$. Define $f_z:(0,\infty)\to\mathbb C$ by $f_z(t)=t^{z-1}e^{-t}$ (here $t^{z-1}=\exp[(z-1)\log t]$). Since $|t^{z-1}|=t^{\mathrm{Re}(z)-1}$, we have $|f_z(t)|\leq t^{\mathrm{Re}(z)-1}$, and also $|f_z(t)|\leq C_ze^{-t/2}$ for $t\geq1$ (the precise value of $C_z$ can easily be found by maximizing $t^{\mathrm{Re}(z)-1}e^{-t/2}$).
Why does $|f_z(t)|\leq C_ze^{-t/2}$ hold for $t\geq1$ but not otherwise? To be honest, I don't see why it holds at all.
7:54 PM
Because $t^{\text{Re}(z)-1}e^{-t/2}$ is bounded on $[1, \infty)$, but not necessarily on $(0, \infty)$
psie: as a threshold thing, which is actually really important, he never says "but not otherwise," does he? i would basically never expect an analysis book to expect you to infer significance from what cases they weren't saying things about in an estimate like this.
And as for why it is bounded, this is because $\lim_{t\to\infty} t^{\text{Re}(z)-1}e^{-t/2} = 0$
psie: if your first instinct when reading a statement like that is to wonder what's happening with what the author isn't talking about, you're going to be distracted a lot. (in this particular example, there's nothing too important about 1, any positive number would do independently of z, which isn't even beginning to talk about what you might be able to use for some z but not others to get an estimate like that)
psie: for what you actually ought to have been asking about, see jakobian. f_z(t) := t^(z-1) e^(-t) = [t^(z-1) e^(-t/2)] e^(-t/2), the first equality by definition and the second by basic properties of the exponential, and he's saying that the thing in brackets is bounded
ok 👍 can we say that [t^(Re(z)-1) e^(-t/2)] is even decreasing on (0,oo)?
maybe that's irrelevant...
I'd expect there to be a single bump
7:59 PM
psie: it is indeed irrelevant. i dont' see why it would be. simple examples show that it doesn't have to be
try e.g. t^5 e^(-t/2), for small t the t^5 stuff is going to drive whats going on more than the e^(-t/2), but eventually, the e^(-t/2) will win out
In probability and statistics such bump would be called a mode, so that in general this function should be unimodal that is, with a single bump, is what I expect
in some cases it will be decreasing though
8:24 PM
psie: the general fact folland may be appealing to here is that a continuous function on an interval like [a, +oo) with a finite limit at +oo will be bounded. it is possible to just 'see' the continuity and the limiting behavior, this is t^p e^(-t) for some fixed p. the fact that the interval [1, +oo) excludes 0 simplifies the analysis because it won't matter whether p is negative
or i guess e^(-t/2) (or e^(-t/anything positive))
@leslietownes ok 👍yeah, [a,+oo) is not compact, so one can't use the famous theorem that continuous functions attain their max/min on compact sets
Folland says that C_z is obtained by maximizing t^(Re(z)-1) e^(-t/2)
if $f=o(1)$ positive and continuous, then it attains the max, doesn't it?
8:42 PM
@SoumikMukherjee What did the omnipotent god say? Or are they on an omniyear holiday? ;-)
@Tsundoku A user with a blue diamond! Run!
@SineoftheTime Are you asking the question? Or are you being all Socratic for the sake of someone else?
@XanderHenderson A user with a face mask! Run!
@Tsundoku BWAHAHAHAHA!
Actually, I thought it was a sapphire.
@XanderHenderson I was replying to psie
8:56 PM
@SineoftheTime ok, I'll think about this 👍
@SineoftheTime thumbs up emoji. I won't answer, then. :D
9:27 PM
@psie we can
You can extend your function $g(t) = t^{\text{Re}(z)-1}e^{-t/2}$ to be $g(\infty) = \lim_{t\to\infty} g(t) = 0$ then $g$ is continuous on a compact set $[1, \infty]$ and so attains maximum
ok, fair
@Jakobian I was thinking we simply find $N\in[1,\infty)$ so large such that $g(t)<g(1)$ for all $t>N$. Then the maximum of $g(t)$ on $[1,\infty)$ will be attained on $[1,N]$.
You might appreciate this: If a function $f:X\to\mathbb{R}$ is vanishing at infinity, then $f$ is uniformly continuous for any uniformity on $X$, in particular one might take compactification of $X$ to show $f$ must be bounded
but $g(1)$ may be $0$
@psie I'm not assuming $g$ is positive
@SineoftheTime if $g(t) = t^{\text{Re}(z)-1}e^{-t/2}$, then $g(1)=e^{-1/2}>0$, no?
9:38 PM
Well... alternatively, if $f$ is vanishing at infinity then of course there is a compact $K$ such that $|f(x)| < 1$ for all $x\notin K$, so this also works to show its bounded :P
@psie in your case it's not $0$, but if you want to generalize the statement you don't know a priori that $g(a)\neq 0$
ah ok
10:23 PM
@SineoftheTime The courses have started again, Complex numbers have been explained in mathematical methods/analysis 3
@Pizza mathematical methods is in the first semester?
Obviously I'm doing analysis 2 first, otherwise it wouldn't make sense also because there is the propaedeucy
@SineoftheTime Yes, there are mathematical methods, signal theory which has a part of probability, and electronics (which would be fundamentals of circuits)
mathematical methods is not easy usally
These subjects are more difficult than the others done before
how many credits (math methods)?
10:26 PM
They are all 9 cfu
:(
be prepared cuz it may be the hardest exam
so don't keep it as last exam
They sent some exam if you want I can show you one
Obviously it's still early now
@SineoftheTime But do you think it makes sense to follow the lessons even if I still have to do the previous subjects?
Maybe I can try to just one of these new ones
@Pizza it depends on how well you're prepared on the previous subjects
skipping one course may be ok, but skipping all the semester is not a wise choice
@Pizza yeah just send one for curiosity
10:32 PM
Here the oral exam is not mandatory I think only if you answer at least one open question well
Otherwise it has to be done
@SineoftheTime Oh no I was referring to trying to take just 1 of these new exams
@Pizza there's a lot of material
distributions, Fourier and Laplace transform, complex analysis
@Tsundoku couldn't contact them yet:)
@Pizza that's up to you
@SineoftheTime and yes, I think this year is the most difficult
How do the exercises seem to you?
how many exam of the first year did you not take?
10:37 PM
I should do physics 2 and analysis 2 (which I'm doing) then I would miss algebra and geometry, but only the oral part
@Pizza I don't have a lot of experience with these kind of exercises to be honest
@SineoftheTime In the sense that they are different arguments than the ones you did?
we did not study distribution and Laplace transform in any course, I studied those topics on my own
yes however it's not really analysis 3, it's called mathematical methods for engineering
So maybe a little different from your analysis 3 course
and the complex analysis course was horrible so we did not do contour integration (studied on my own also that :()
10:41 PM
did you do probability?
@Pizza totally different
yes, a full course on stats and probability (9 cfu)
The signal theory exam would be 6 CFU + 3 CFU on the part of probability
do you know the topics of probability?
@SineoftheTime How did it go?
got a good mark
10:42 PM
@SineoftheTime Yes, in high school I did a part
I meant, do you know what probability topics will be taught in signal theory?
@Pizza we did the high school part in two hours. skull emoji
@SineoftheTime I read the concept of random variable
In English It translates it like this
Probability Theory , The Random Vector
I'm seeing these things from the book now
Anyway
For the new subjects, for example electronics, it requires that one knows how to solve differential equations for example, so it's a bit useless to follow if I don't take analysis 2 first or not?
Just to give an example, I'm not just referring to differential equations, but the professor mentioned them.
it depends on a lot of things
10:50 PM
I hope I can give analysis 2
if you're able to follow from the notes, you can also not attend
Oh yes, our professor wrote the book.
He told us to buy his book
but since you will probably not start studying electronics from tomorrow, you may go to the lessons since you'll need the knowledge of DE when preparing the exam
@Pizza that's classic
@SineoftheTime Yes, but if I attend the lessons, shouldn't I also study the subjects I'm behind on?
I don't know what the best choice is
sure, you should first prepare analysis 2
10:56 PM
Maybe I need to find some times where I can at least read the things that are explained, even for a short time?
So as not to be left behind
I don't know what's the best solution
you should evaluate a lot of things
it depends on how many hours of lesson you have during the week, how much time do you need to go to the uni, how many hours you can study, how difficult the course is, ...
Yes, in the end I will always have to do all the subjects so either I do one or the other first, it doesn't matter.
In your experience, did you do the subjects you liked the most first, or did you start with the most difficult one?
usually the most difficult are my favourite :)
11:02 PM
Has it ever happened that, for example, a professor said that his exam had to be attempted 5-6 times before passing?
no
probably he is not good at his job if he says something like that
Yes the electronics prof ..
attempting an exam 5 or 6 times takes at least a year
He said that in September out of 67 people, he failed 64.
hard to judge
11:05 PM
@SineoftheTime yes from me because of the test some are in this situation
Meaning you have to take analysis 1 as your first exam or you can't take any more exams
But I don't know how much sense this thing makes.
it happened something similar in the physics faculty
mathematical methods for physics
and only a bunch of people passed the exam at the first try
That is, there are people who had passed the first exams, but having failed analysis 1, after a certain amount of time the grade expired
11:08 PM
In the sense that one can also take the exams, but one must be able to give analysis 1 in that time frame otherwise the grade is no longer valid
you mean both written and oral test?
Only the written
but once the mark is registered, it does not "expire"
Exactly, but because the oral exam was "suspended"
you could only do it after passing analysis 1, if you hadn't passed the test
But this was at the beginning, now those who have not passed it, only aim to pass analysis 1
yes, that happens. Some professors want you to do both exams (w+o) in the same session
@Pizza did you pass analysis 1 right?
11:13 PM
I wasn't in this problem, because I had passed the test, but I still had some difficulties having studied business economics. connected to computer science
@SineoftheTime yes
that's good news
Otherwise I couldn't do analysis 2
Which obviously makes sense as a thing
focus on passing analysis 2
you seem to have understood the concept
yes, what should not happen is for example making a mistake due to distraction that makes you fail the whole exercise, I say this because it happened to me with a sign
that happens to everyone
you have to train yourself to solve the exercises faster
11:18 PM
what worries me a little is the time
@SineoftheTime Yes, I'm afraid that if I go fast I'll make a mistake.
for example you can time yourself
@Pizza in fact that needs practice
Actually, I saw that the exercise that requires a bit of time is the Cauchy problem when there are derivatives to calculate.
I also mean to find c1 and C2 you have to calculate the derivative there too
And then with Gauss Green, for example if 4 integrals come out
@SineoftheTime yes
It seems to me that it's more lengthy the ex with Green Gauss
Yes
It depends on the exam
Sometimes there are exercises that can be done right away, others not
The DE involves sin cos and exp so it should not take too much time computing the derivatives
maybe a good strategy is first doing the double integral and leaving Green Gauss to the end if you have time
11:22 PM
However I saw that sometimes the teacher during the test modifies Gauss Green
When he realize it's taking too long
Because once they had written like this on the class group
he should realize that when he prepares the exercises :D
Yes indeed I didn't understand, once there was an integral that couldn't be solved :(
I don't like this negligence
More than anything else, maybe there is someone who does that exercise first and wastes time.
yeah that's the problem
11:26 PM
Yes luckily it only happened once
Maybe he made a mistake in writing on the document... I don't know.
Usually teachers also check how long it takes to finish the exam
Anyway
Remember that exam i sent you
of analysis 2
I saw that quite a few people from my class passed, but the maximum grade was 22
Strange because some in analysis 1 also got honors
However I have to say that the maximum rating in this case is 27
11:34 PM
No
I think the maximum is around 27
ah yes you told me that before
cuz you don't have to do the oral test
Yes, but I don't know how many points the exercises have
don't focus on the points
focus on your preparation
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Yes, I Hope tò pass the written test, then I will decide whether to do the oral based on my preparation.
11:40 PM
Do the oral, starting out I'd say :P
focus on the written test now
@SineoftheTime Yes, however the written test also has oral questions
they seem general
@SineoftheTime yes, apart from solving the exercises, I have to remember the various cases, so I will try to do the exercises without checking before finishing
that's a good strategy
11:44 PM
Especially the cases of differential equations
yes, it's a mess
I remember more or less the other things, only this is where I have difficulty remembering
@SineoftheTime Did you do mixed exercises, or like did you do one topic of exercises one day, etc.?
Do you have any advice?
Sometimes I find myself doing all kinds of exercises but I don't know if it's good
well, since I followed the course I used to do the exercises on a topic while the professor was explaining but to prepare the exam I did mixed exercises
@Pizza If you already have a good understaning and knowledge of a topic it's ok
Oh another question
In exams there are types of exercises that never come up, but wouldn't it be good to always know how to do them?
that is, you can't know what comes out
But by knowing how to do it well I mean
more exercises you do, more experience you gain
but at the end of the day, there will always be problem you've never seen before
so it's better to know the general strategy instead of doing exercises without understanding what you're doing
11:53 PM
Yes, I was referring to the fact of also practicing triple integrals, or series of functions, these exercises never come up in exams.
Or at least, only once did a triple integral come out that I knew how to do.
But there are other types of exercises that always come out
Then Gauss Green, maxima and minima, the differential equation, something with Stokes' theorem
These almost always come out
did you professor do a lot of example in class?
@SineoftheTime Not many, because he had to be sure to finish the program
oh ok
make sure you practice triple integrals tho
I mean, I have my exam on October 25th, I don't know how you organize all this time.
Because I have a lot of time
So I could also do other types of exercises
But
I'll get to a point where I'll have to prepare the oral part, right? If I pass I won't have that much time to prepare.
@SineoftheTime ok
did you study all the topics?
11:59 PM
do you have any advice on how to organize the day more or less? As for the lessons, I would organize myself

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